The Yankees have officially struck a deal to acquire lefty James Paxton from the Mariners, as Jeff Passan of Yahoo Sports (Twitter link) first reported. Top pitching prospect Justus Sheffield is coming to Seattle in return, per Ryan Divish of the Seattle Times (Twitter link). Completing the return are outfielder Dom Thompson-Williams and righty Erik Swanson, per Corey Brock of The Athletic (via Twitter).
This is the first major move of the winter market, bringing a top-shelf starter to a New York club that has long been rumored to be seeking to boost its rotation. Having already inked CC Sabathia earlier in the winter, the Yanks now appear unlikely to pursue more than one additional starter, though they’ll still have ample financial flexibility to go after any available pitchers.
Meanwhile, the M’s have now kicked off a winter in which they’ll attempt to walk a tightrope act of staying at least reasonably competitive while enhancing their roster’s long-term outlook. Paxton just turned 30 earlier this month, but he’s down to two more season of arbitration control, so he was one of the team’s more obvious assets to market. Previously, the club sent out regular catcher Mike Zunino, another player with two seasons to go until free agency.
In adding Paxton, the Yankees aren’t just getting a highly talented pitcher. They’re getting one at an eminently reasonable rate of pay. MLBTR and contributor Matt Swartz project Paxton to earn $9.0MM this winter; if he turns in a great year, he’ll get a nice raise on that amount, but that would also mean the club would be more than happy to pay it. Ultimately, these salary levels land a far sight shy of Paxton’s open-market value — at least, that is, assuming he’s at full health.
At his best, Paxton is among the game’s most dominant rotation pieces. Aptly dubbed the Big Maple, the Canadian southpaw has struck out 11 batters per nine over the past two seasons while averaging a reasonable 2.4 BB/9. That’s rare air for a starter. His ERA ballooned a bit this year to 3.76, owing to a few extra long balls, but he posted a 2.98 mark in 2017. Plus, ERA estimators were quite enamored of his output in the just-completed campaign (3.24 FIP, 3.02 xFIP, 2.96 SIERA).
Of course, this all comes with a caveat. Paxton has never thrown a full MLB campaign, with his 28 starts in 2018 representing a career high. He also just barely (by a third of a frame) passed the 160 innings-pitched threshold for the first time last year. Health issues remain an ever-present concern and will perhaps dictate the outcome of this swap from the Yankees’ perspective.
The Yankees will hang their hat on the fact that Paxton mostly avoided significant injury issues in 2018. He missed time after being struck by a comebacker, which was obviously just an instance of poor fortune, after previously being sidelined for lower back inflammation. Those sorts of maladies aren’t the real concern, though. Previously, Paxton has missed time with forearm, shoulder, and biceps problems.
The good news is that Paxton has delivered a pristine version of his power arsenal when he has been able to unleash it. He has averaged 95.9 mph on his four-seamer over each of the past two seasons. And his swinging-strike rate is still on the rise, moving up to a personal-best 14.3% in 2018. If he can carry that forward, even if it’s not quite for a full 32-start campaign, the Yankees will likely be quite pleased with this move.
Turning back to the Mariners side, it’s still a bit difficult to know whether this portends quite a few more moves or whether the club will mostly pick around the edges from this point forward. Certainly, the organization has other marketable assets — as well as some under-water contracts that it might look to unload. It was only two weeks ago that we first learned of the Mariners’ somewhat surprising plans to move some key MLB assets this winter. The shape of the final roster remains very much in doubt, though GM Jerry Dipoto acknowledged today that the club is focused on a 2020-2021 window. (H/t TJ Cotterill of the Tacoma News Tribune, via Twitter).
It’s worth noting that, in both this and the Zunino swap, the M’s have brought back players who figure to represent near-term MLB contributors. If things break right, then, the club could rebound quickly. Here, the key asset is Sheffield, a 22-year-old southpaw who originally went to New York along with Clint Frazier in the swap that send Andrew Miller to the Indians. Scouts and prospect hounds alike have long loved Sheffield for his stuff. But questions remain as to whether he’ll every full command the full arsenal sufficiently to reach his ceiling at the game’s highest level.
It’s not as if Sheffield tends to have difficulties finding the zone. He has averaged only 3.4 walks per nine innings over his five minor-league seasons, which is hardly elite but also isn’t a concerning number, standing alone. But an inability to fully dictate the location of your pitches can obviously tell in other ways, particularly against major-league hitters.
Thus far, Sheffield has managed just fine with his explosive three-pitch mix, which is led by a fastball that occasionally edges into the upper-nineties. In 2018, he turned in a 2.48 ERA in 116 games at the Double-A and (mostly) Triple-A level. He also briefly debuted in the bigs; while things didn’t go well in his three relief outings, that hardly means much for the future.
While he’s not nearly so well-known as Sheffield, Swanson is also a near-term possibility for the Mariners’ active roster. He’ll need to take a 40-man spot from the jump, as he’d otherwise be eligible for the Rule 5 draft. The 25-year-old joined Sheffield at Triple-A this year after a dominant stop at the penultimate level of the minors to begin the season.
After arriving at the Yanks’ top affiliate, Swanson worked to a 3.86 ERA over 72 1/3 innings. He was touched for ten long balls, but otherwise impressed with 9.7 K/9 and 1.7 BB/9. Prospect watchers tend to view Swanson as a back-of-the-rotation possibility, rather than any kind of frontline starter, but that’d certainly be a welcome outcome for the Mariners.
Thompson-Williams, meanwhile, reached the High-A level last year at 23 years of age. He did turn in an impressive output there, slashing .290/.356/.517 and racking up 17 home runs and 17 steals in 375 plate appearances. That represented a big leap forward for the former fifth-round pick, so it remains to be seen whether he can continue to develop as he reaches the high minors.
Photos courtesy of USA Today Sports Images.
Kenleyfornia74
Our first offseason bombshell.
deweybelongsinthehall
Wow. Never thought it would involve Sheffield. I thought quantity would have been enough due to Paxton’s injury history. Anyone know his splits? Coming east to smaller ballparks is also a concern. That said, kudos to Cashman for pulling the trigger. Had he waited and Corbin sign elsewhere and the M’s might have held out for more.
xabial
Those of you saying Cashman got fleeced.. thought this too, until heard this commentary:
Cashman traded Miller for Sheffield, Frazier.:. then traded Sheffield for two years of Paxton, and he can re-sign Miller basically getting Frazier icing on cake
Do believe should have included him in a package for ‘bigger’ name Pitcher? Maybe. But you have to look at it in the grand scheme of things. 2 years Miller got Cash 2 years Paxton + Clint Frazier
thegreatcerealfamine
Paxton is a proven commodity, and what was traded for him isn’t, simple as that.
jakec77
By that logic, if the Yankees traded Gleyber Torres for Paxton it would be a good deal, after all they got Torres for just two months of Chapman, clearly 2 years of Paxton worth more than that.
deweybelongsinthehall
Xab, not as simple as that because if you kept Miller, you might have been Houston in 17. Agree with other comments on Sheffield as I didn’t find him impressive. I tempered my initial comments however as I got caught up in the NY hype. Shame on me for not going with my eyes considering how I always preach looking through your eyes and stop focusing on newer stats that are sometimes based on faulty subjective criteria.
deweybelongsinthehall
Concerns Fiber with his injury history and now going to pitch in typically smaller parks.
giveemthecurve
Well, Sheffield is done. Once the Mariners player development guys get their hands on him he’s going nowhere.
thegreatcerealfamine
I think given the choices they had even with the injury concerns he’s still a step up from, unproven prospects.
Harry pness
You’ve got some homework to do before thanksgiving break xabial
xabial
If u disagree, Thank you for the courtesy (no sarcasm, must be Thanksgiving spirit Lol)
My source is… Michael Kay. He broke news of the trade to me, my drive back from school. It was the only point he pointed out, I liked and I’m the biggest Yankee homer there is …! No Kay!!! Just cuz the other prospects werent “top-10” NYY doesn’t mean they’re TRASH
slider32
Paxton fangraphs projects 4.4 War
MetsYankeesRedSox
I bet the Schmooze is liking this trade.
Slevin
lol, good one MYR!!!
bravesfan88
Yeah, there’s no way Cash got fleeced in this deal. If anything, I would say the deal goes heavily in the Yankees favor.
You look at what it would take to get any other pitcher of Paxton’s caliber and upside, and you’re talking about one of your top 3 prospects, and at least another top 10 and top 15..The Yankees basically only gave up Sheffield, and a couple of mediocre throw-ins..
Besides, I think Sheffield was at times quite a bit overhyped, so it could actually end up even looking better for the Yanks and Cashman.
The only risk is Paxton’s injury history, but without that, you’re talking about a MUCH bigger prospect cost. Besides, by all accounts, recently Paxton has proved he’s healthy, and moving forward, his shoulder and arm troubles are behind him. The Yankees should be getting the best of Paxton, during his prime, and that should be a scary thought for the Yankees opponents!!
Clearly, Paxton was definitely worth the gamble, especially considering his overall cost.
Excellent move for the Yankees, and anyone that says otherwise, you should probably consider your sanity..or lack thereof!! lol
Pedro Cerrano's Voodoo
If Paxton is at least as healthy as he’s shown the last few years it seems the Yanks won this trade. Guess Sheffield’s worth remains to be seen buuut..
JKB 2
I do not think Cashman was fleeced but your logic of resigning Miller has nothing to do with it being a good trade or not. They could have kept Sheffield and signed Miller.
Perksy
Agreed. And I’m sure Cleveland asked a ton for Kluber or Carrasco so Paxton was the next best for a lot less. Plus 2 years of control there is no big commitment. They probably wanted to at least lock in one pitcher and then see how the market shapes out with Corbin, Happ, and Keuchel, etc. I don’t think they re done, and they will be two more.
merrilld
M’s fan here. Pax is excellent in all parks. He threw a no-no at Rogers last year and has pitched excellently in Yankees Stadium, iirc.
TeddyBallgameYazJimEd
Exactly.. one thing that is known.. he gave up 23 bombs in only 160 innings.. Wow.. they should check his neck.. he may have sprained it from spinning it around so many times..
Markdashark
Not really saying it’s a good trade or a bad trade but, how is trading two years of Miller for two years of Paxton really a great trade anyway? Honestly you can’t really look at it that way anyway. If the Yankees didn’t trade Miller, they wouldn’t me paying Chapman 18+ for the next 4 years or whatever.
Anyway Clint Frazier is complete garbage so I wouldn’t call him icing on the cake. More like an icing in hockey.. da da chhh.
dubinsky
how is trading 2 years of Miller for 2 years of Paxson a great trade?
seriously? (look up the term WAR)
2 years of a good reliever is not worth FAR less than 2 years of a good starter????? particularly when you have, as the Yanks do, 2 better relievers than Miller and really need starters?
thefenwayfaithful 2
It’s not that Paxton is not a good pitcher. It’s that you gotta believe he’s the guy in Yankees stadium. The Yankees rebuked quite a few offers on Sheffield over the last few years from how it sounds.
I’m not sure taking a guy from Seattle which is pitcher friendly and putting him in a park with some short porches, he could see a spike in his hr/fb ratio causing an inflated ERA. Not saying Sonny Gray part 2, but it could be a consideration. In his one career appearance at Yankees stadium he gave up 2 homers for 4 runs over 5 innings. Granted, career numbers don’t say he’s better in pitcher friendly parks. He’s got a 5.02 ERA in Oakland and didn’t fare too well in San Diego his one time there. He also hasn’t been awful in Arlington which is a hitter friendly park and pitched well in Houston. He’s pitched well against Boston, but never pitched at Fenway.
His 41% FB ratio this season was much higher then prior seasons and his GB/FB was a career low. He also only had a 16.5% soft contact rate and a career high hard contact rate (34%). He also spiked up in his HR/FB ratio. He did slightly set a career high in K%, but the overall trend doesn’t look great for a guy moving to the Bronx.
I don’t mind moving Sheffield but they should have picked a different target in my opinion.
ortue
That’s right on the money. Conversely we can expect Zunnino to be a perennial All Star in Tampa
ortue
“Well, Sheffield is done. Once the Mariners player development guys get their hands on him he’s going nowhere.”
That’s right on the money. Conversely we can expect Zunnino to be a perennial All Star in Tampa
Markdashark
Oh I did
Andrew Miller has a 10.4 war over the past 5 seasons
James Paxton has a 11 war over 5 seasons
That puts them extremely close, however I think Andrew millers playoff accomplishment put him far past a player who only plays half a season.
davidcoonce74
WAR is a rough metric for relievers though, as they pitch so few innings. WPA or some other metric/stat that includes high-leverage situations is probably much more appropriate.
TroyD
Not that proven. People talk about his peripherals but his actual numbers are good not great.
justreading
funny though, the Yankees needed innings in the worst way in July and August and Sheffield was mentioned numerous times but the yanks stood steady and kept Sheffield down. at first I thought he was to be used in a 7/31 trade and they didn’t want to take a chance with a couple of mlb starts, but the “he wasn’t ready” stmnts started to get
very sketchy. damn, cc was fatigued and couldn’t pitch in the heat, severino obviously had a problem and needed to take 10-15 days and figure it out – they needed a rookie “phenom” to step in and give them 5-8 starts and get them to October but Justus was no where to be found. why were they afraid to pitch him or were they afraid to show him to other teams against mlb pitching.
I WILL TAKE PAXTON IN A HEARTBEAT!!
stansfield123
By that logic, he should’ve traded Judge for Paxton. and claimed that all Paxton cost was the 32nd draft pick in the first round of the 2013 amateur draft.
You see, Sheffield isn’t worth what he was worth in the Miller trade. He successfully climbed two levels of the minors, and is now major league ready. That easily doubles his value, compared to the Miller trade.
pennantrace01
That’s how starter for prospect trades work. Only time will tell as pitching prospects are Lotto tickets.
Palmerpark
Sheff overrated and failed to pay an agent back that he screwed over – his days were numbered – saw him in AZ Fall league last year – not impressive
southpaw2153
I agree. Sheffield has 2 pitches and can’t throw enough strikes. He’ll wind up a reliever. Great deal by Cashman.
Bocephus
Future BP arm.
c1234
Hey, Xabial actually brought up a valid point, nice.
YourDaddy
A month ago he was God incarnate and now he is a bum. You Tankees fans are funny. Thanks for the good laugh.
southbeachbully
Why do you assume those guys are Yankee fans?
iverbure
No kidding eh? Like it’s as if these buffoons are actually negotiating the deals themselves. Talking up or talking down prospects to try and prove to the other fans that said deal you propose is fair is so dumb. You aren’t winning anything nor does any GM care about your worthless opinion.
luclusciano
Then why are you commenting and reading comments on a trade rumors website?
stratcrowder
Bam
jekporkins
Seriously. Two of these guys were in the Giants boards this morning saying Sheffiied was too good to be packaged in a Bumgarner trade. Now they’re glad he’s gone. Once Manny and Bryce are signed to different teams they will all be saying they’re glad Cashman didn’t sign them too.
xabial
Not me! Bryce is my favorite player.
thank team that signs (saves us) from Manny
Perksy
I disagree with the article saying with the acquisition of Paxton and resigning of Sabathia that this is it for the starting pitching. I would say this takes them out of the running for Kluber, but I think Corbin and Happ are still very much in play. They can’t go into next year thinking Sabathia will be the no.5 as he should be just for depth. Plus Paxton is injured all the time and I don’t think they can count on Adams, Loaisiaga, German to be part of the starting 5 yet. For depth an insurance yes. But I think hey need two more bonafide starters if they want to win the division and go deep into the playoffs.
thefenwayfaithful 2
I agree with you. Learn from the Red Sox. We went into last season with Sale, Price, Porcello, Pomeranz, Rodriguez, Wright, etc. And by midseason we were looking for starters again.
If the Yankees stop here it’s a big mistake. Happ or Corbin needs to happen if they want to one up the Sox.
Perksy
I wouldn’t be surprised if they got both. If you can only count on Paxton and Cc for 20 + starts each, then it’s back down to two starters. Every team now needs like 8 starters.
PeterDipersio
It doesn’t matter! My Ref Sox will smash the heck out of Paxton !
jdgoat
No a Canadians worst nightmare!
its_happening
He lives in Northwest Territories?
jdgoat
No idea where he lives.
Perksy
Territories? Is he a salesman?
xabial
James Paxton drafted No. 37 overall 2009 draft.
highest Jays ever took homegrown prospect since Canadian players were included in the draft, 1985
But he failed to sign.
read somewhere he wanted 1.4, Jays offered 1M
Anyway Paxton returned senior year; but NCAA ruled him ineligible, due to contact with Boras, got into legal dispute, eventually pitched in independent league and drafted No. 132 in 2010 draft, almost 100 spots lower. He still got $945K, within $50K of Jays original offer he rejected drafted 37, after getting picked 132!!!
jh8913
Xabial that’s a cool anecdote thank you!
ddj05
Boras sucks
Doug Dueck
This Canadian is ecstatic
jh8913
Wow
Judge Judy
We’re back!
Easy favorites to win the World Series next year.
conquerbeard
Lol
crazy4cleveland
no
Tiger_diesel92
Really.bringing in this guy in the rotation?
mrnatewalter
No. He’s gonna play left field.
jdgoat
Lol
jh8913
Lol
luclusciano
🙂
CubsRule08
Lol
rrddbb44
Lol
Gunnerson
woooooo
RedRooster
Lol
trendysayings
Lol
TwinsHomer
Lol
amjr
Lol
hende3165
Lol
Bob Knob
Lol
STLCards33
Haha god dam that was good
olereb
Please don’t use that word, I know who he is and who his son is, highly offensive
azcm2511
Then just skip over the comment.
GreenCustom24
Well gosh darn…
luclusciano
Ha
elscorchot
God wasn’t capitalized and damn was spelled wrong. Don’t think it counts.
MetsYankeesRedSox
Ok…
What’s the H in Jesus H Christ then?
joepanikatthedisco
Hiroki Kuroda
Ichiro51
best response
gotothevideotape
Mrn,
lolol
PhanaticDuck26
careful…the Phillies will think you’re serious…
titanic struggle
Lol!!
jorleeduf
Lol
Wahoo What a Finish!
Great trade by the M’s! Paxton’s best days are behind him and he will struggle in yankee stadium.
dave1775
Lefty in Yankee stadium. Clueless moron
jh8913
Just haters sigh
jakethesnizake
dave1775, I’m a Yanks fan and this is a stupid move by them. I would never deal Sheff unless its for a frontline starter like Kluber.
Paxton hasn’t pitched more than 160 IP in a season in his career. He can’t stay on the field.
Terrible move.
AllRiseForTheJudge
Then you don’t know baseball. He’s a lefty coming to Yankee Stadium, he’ll be just fine.
johnnyz123
The only concern is health. But, he did have 208Ks in 160 IP. And he had a 1.098 WHIP. If he can stay healthy he can win 20 games. Justus is great, but he’s unproven on the MLB level.
southbeachbully
He started 52 games over the last 2 years and hasn’t had a signifigant injury setback, I’m not mad at the move. Would’ve preferred Kluber but perhaps the ask was too great. He can be a solid #2 or #3 for us, depending on one’s feelings towards Tanaka.
Adam6710
I don’t like the deal but I don’t hate it either. He’s a solid #2 starter, and he’ll do well in Yankee Stadium assuming he can handle New York.
Sheffield is a high price to pay to be sure, but right now he’s nothing but potential. Paxton has a pretty solid track record.
I wouldn’t have done the deal because i’d love a Yankee team with home grown stars up and down the lineup and in multiple spots the rotation…
…but I’d hardly call it “stupid.”
posterizer
Sheffield couldn’t even make it to the big leagues last year despite need. Underachiever- good trade. Now go get Kluber
Adam6710
There’s nothing precluding a trade for Kluber. The Yanks still have enough pieces and prospects to deal: Hicks, Frazier, Adams, Andujar, Florial, Loaisiga and Abreu, to name just a few.
Ichiro51
you don’t know baseball. you need more than Sheffield to get Kluber. Sheffield is unproven. Paxton has shown more brilliance than negatives, even with his injuries. Im a Yankee fan and this trade makes sense for both teams. We would’ve taken a gamble on a prospect to attempt to compete in the playoffs. I’d rather put that on the shoulders if a left that had thrown a no hitter.
jh8913
The Yankees have one “home grown” starter on a major league level. To think they could make a deep playoff run with just triple a pitching is a littttle bit of a stretch
dave1775
Terrible ? Quick you missed your short bus
stymeedone
David Price is lefty. How come he cant pitch well against the Yankees, even in NY? Regardless of which arm he pitches with, Yankee Stadium has a joke of a right field. Tough for any pitcher.
Matthew De Lorge
Kluber is going to be 33 this year, Paxton is 30. Kluber has shown health concerns and decline over the past season and a half, and is paid at a much higher salary.
Sorry, would not want to give up what we did for a guy entering the back 9, I’d rather have one in the middle of his prime on a rookie deal for 2 more seasons.
jh8913
Pretty sure Fenway has the worst right field
Shane Collier
Did u say Kluber has shown signs of decline? Lol right won 20 games with a 2.89 era. Only making 15 million this year. 15 million for an ace not bad!
Astros2333
Is that why Kluber was third in Cy Young voting?
rivera42
Left field in Boston. Right in New York.
The Human Toilet
He got a point on the decline, Kluber did win the Cy Young the year prior and only finished 3rd in the voting this year. He is nothing more than a ACE on a contending team anymore.
merrilld
He just pitched more than 160 LAST YEAR.
Albeit, 160 & a third, yuk yuk.
Still, he’s primed for 200 next season. He’s had to learn a lot about caring for his body. It ain’t easy being tall.
Looks like a good deal for both teams, to me. We’ll see.
luclusciano
One? Judge, Sanchez, severino, wade, torreyes, Andujar
Am I missing something? Granted Sheffield is not homegrown, so they can’t claim him.
Matthew De Lorge
How did Kluber fare in the playoffs the past 2 seasons? Remember, when the Yankees destroyed him in 2017 it was rumored he was playing through an injury.
CincyMariner
luclusciano,
One “starter” is homegrown. Clearly homegrown means something different to you. In this case starter means a thrower of baseballs from atop a hill in the middle of the diamond shaped thing not someone who is in the “starting lineup”, however I think you may be a Rays fan, so you might be more familiar with the term “opener.” As in, Severino is the only “opener or starter” who is homegrown talent.
CincyMariner
I’m a Mariners fan and you are right, this was a stupid move, because I wouldn’t have let him go for less than two top 100 prospects. I think the Mariners should have got at least Abreu or Acevedo in addition to the package they got for Paxton. I know you think you traded for a #3, but there is a good chance Paxton is your opening day starter. Severino tanked in the second half and Paxton is undeniably great, and his injury history never included prolonged issues like T.J. or shoulder issues.
If Paxton pitched 200 innings in 2018, he’d be a 6-7 WAR pitcher. He was constantly in the top 10 starters in all of baseball and if you look at his numbers, he strikes out a ton, walks few, has a bulldog mentality, and maybe the Mariners trainers suck at keeping people healthy. It’s not like there aren’t numerous supporting injuries to tie into this theory.
As is, you are getting someone who is in the 4-5 WAR range if he has a couple short stints on the D.L. Most importantly, he’s also going to be fresher than most when he gets to the postseason and there is almost nobody in baseball you would rather have than him starting a winner take all game in the postseason. Add in his dominance against AL East teams, throw out the bad Yankee stadium numbers because he was playing a good offensive team (give yourselves some credit).
Finally, as far as trade value goes, the Padres traded 3,3 years of a setup guy (Brad Hand) who is going to make almost $25M over the remaining 3 years while putting up about 1 WAR/ yr., plus they included 5+ years of a solid middle reliever (Adam Cimber) for a top 30 catching prospect. Paxton will make about $23M over the two years, while projecting for 9-10 wins if he only averages 150-170 innings per season.
* That’s about $5M in excess value for Hand
* Plus about $5M in excess value for Cimber
* Paxton will be worth about $60-70M.
* Mejia ($43M) is worth more than Sheffield ($29M), by a lot…
fangraphs.com/blogs/an-update-to-prospect-valuatio…
* The Mariners got fluff and Sheffield, good fluff, but fluff for a whale of a player. Paxton and Severino throwing 98+ in the 7th inning on back-to-back days will make you glad for this trade. I would’ve rather them forced the Yankees to expand the trade to include Kyle Seager (grew up a Yankee fan and his family is from NY) and cash ($20M-25MM??/3) plus the Mariners get to add Trevor Stephan and Domingo Acevedo to the return. I know God forbid the Yankees don’t get the Lambo everytime, but Seager battled a foot injury for most of the season and still was close to league average. He’d represent a huge uptick in defense, should bounce back from injury, adds left-handed bat to New York’s lineup and he could put up with mooks in Brooklyn.
So yeah I’m sad about what we got, I think the Mariners got fleeced and could have leveraged Paxton to dump salary and strengthen the return. Instead you guys get an ace for a #3, a #5 and a lottery ticket.
jbigz12
Why would you use WAR for a relief pitcher? If you’re going to comp a reliever with a starter WAR is not a measure that is going to give you any insight. I’m surprised the M’s didn’t get a better 2nd piece in this package. IE Acevedo or Loaisiga but they may be higher on Swanson than others. They’re also paper thin in the outfield and may like him as well. Nobody’s value on prospects is uniform and Seattle may have had these guys much higher than we think.
TroyD
Bad numbers at Yankee Stadium make me far more nervous than they did 1 1/2 years ago.
Adam6710
Price can’t pitch against the Yankees because he has to face the Yankees. And he’s David Price, who for some reason always folds against them.
The idea of YS being good for lefty pitchers is that Lefty Hitters can use the short right porch for power, but a good lefty pitcher can neutralize those lefty hitters.
Certainly there is no guarantee Paxton, or anyone, will have success there, but it’s a good match on paper is what people are saying.
Perksy
They were not getting Kluber unless Sheffield, Andujar, Florial at least we’re in the deal. Kluber is under contract at like $13m a year for the next 3 years. CY young candidate and 32 starts every year.
thunderecho
Astros fan here. I would argue that the talent the Mariners landed in the Paxton trade is greater than the talent the Mariners received in the Randy Johnson trade in 1998. None of the prospects (at the time), the Mariners received in the Randy Johnson trade we’re ranked in the top 100 and all three players made the big league roster. The Mariners farm system right now is horrible. The future of the Mariners doesn’t look promising with the state of the farm system. It is way too soon to grade this trade or criticize this trade for the Mariners or obsess over the rankings the prospects the Mariners received.
dust44
Torreyes was actually a reds farm Hand first. Watched him play in Dayton. So he’s not homegrown. And who really gives a rip who’s homegrown. Just WIN baby
sabathiawouldbegoodattheeighthtoo
Paxton v LHB in 2018: .330/.378/.495
ortue
but .202 vs RHB….23.14 era vs Red Sox in 2018
gotothevideotape
Omg, another jealous and bitter Yankees remark! DAVE, don’t waste your breath on them!
YourDaddy
fangraphs.com/spraycharts.aspx?playerid=11828&…
JPADA
.330/.378/.495, .874 OPS is Paxton’s line versus left handed batters in ’18.
johnnyz123
Leftys in Yankee Stadium fare well. Paxton is still young. And, the run support will make him a 15-game winner.
wayneroo
30 is young?
thetruth 2
Yes.
aberdeen101
Seattle got robbed.
jh8913
Idk about robbed but definitely a good deal for yanks
Samuel
Sheffield has disappointed so far as a prospect. Might not be ready for the majors till 2020.
Good job by the Yankees putting PR out on him. Not as intense as the Red Sox did on Moncada, but it got the job done.
posterizer
Agree
topchuckie
He had a 2.56 ERA in AAA last year, but you think he’ll need another whole season there?
Samuel
Yes.
The hardest transition for a player is going from AAA to the majors. It’s why 80% of Top 100 prospects don’t last 3 years in the bigs.
Sheffield would not have stayed in the Yankee rotation in 2019. Assuming the Mariners go into a rebuild, he may get innings there. But even then I see him yo-yo’ing between AAA and the majors in 2019.
ColossusOfClout
He won’t spend another full year in the minors. He may even start the year in the M’s rotation.
iverbure
Hardest transition is AAA to the bigs? Hmmm is that why a lot of guys totally bypass AAA altogether now.
Mattimeo09
Don’t try to reason with him. He thinks the Royals are going all the way this year
Samuel
lol
oldleftylong
Might not even make it to the BIGS.
unpaidobserver
Pretty much even as they come. 35-40 starts spread over two years of 3.50 ERA at $24M in exchange for a top prospect that needs to figure things out but could blossom into a star and a position player lottery ticket.
jh8913
Agreed
Perksy
Why $24 mil?
pinstripes17
You know it!
partyatnapolis
does this mean the indians are holding onto their starters?
Cam
Not sure how the Mariners and Yankees making a trade at the beginning of the offseason, could mean the Indians aren’t shipping anyone?
Samuel
The Indians had Sheffield. No way they would take him as the major piece back for Kluber or Corrasco. They’ll still deal, although the Yankees may be down to signing a free agent starter, as they have little left to trade for a major pitcher.
On the Yankees part this lets Corbin’s agent know that they will give him a fair contract, but not go silly. As for the Indians – they’ll still make a trade. Maybe even a 3-way. The Braves look like an excellent trading partner.
RedRooster
Indians didn’t trade Sheffield because they didn’t believe in him as a player. They traded him because they had an immediate need that they were able to fill by trading him.
Cam
The Indians will make a trade, and pitching will get paid in FA. There’s really no Team in the league that is set for pitching right now.
Love that hot stove season!
indiansfan44
Sheffield might of actually been a critical piece to trade for Kluber. The biggest needs right now are outfield and relief pitching but with Carrasco, Bauer and Salazar (assuming he is brought back and is healthy) are all free agents after 2020. Still would have Clevenger and Bieber with top prospect McKenzie ready to step up but the options if someone got injured before then are not very exciting.
dobsonel
You do realize that the Yankees currently have three more prospects who rank in the top 100 and two are pitchers right? Florial, Loasiga, and Abreu.
On top of this, they have German, Acevedo, and Adams, not to mention Montgomery and even Holder who all have value. The Yanks have plenty of chips left to package and trade.
reflect
It also means the Portland Trailblazers are going to blow it up.
Weighed
Justice is served.
Caught Looking
More like Justus.is served (and traded)
jleve618
I think that was the point.
Mattimeo09
Are you sure?
Check Again.
Perksy
Sid Justice?
nmendoza7
Holy Jesus in heaven
bronxbombers99
HOT STOVE FIRE BURNIN
dbacksrs
Yanks can go to H-E-Double hockey sticks!
HubcapDiamondStarHalo
Why? And why be so lame with your cursing?
AidanVega123
Wow
Slipknot37
Sheffield? Kind of wanted him to stay in new York. Thought he was untouchable. But way to get the offseason rolling, mariners
SirCheeto1
Felt like the Yankees were always down on Sheff. Plus Paxton is a big upgrade over Sheffield IF he stays healthy.
Slipknot37
If Joel sherman’s report is true about how they viewed him as a number three starter, then i agree
Christian Larsen
Less likely Corbin comes to the Yankees now
realgone2
True
yanks02026
How is it true? Cashman has said he wants to get 2 starts, now they have space for one more.
realgone2
How is it not true?
Michael Talarico
No offense to Yankees fans, but you guys literally think everyone with talent in free agency is going to sign with the Yankees. The Yankees are a good team already and can just use their farm system to replenish any holes(mostly); especially after tradong for Paxton.
jimmyz
Yanks plan on trading Sonny Gray who is expected to make about the same money as Paxton, both through arbitration. Yankees should add Corbin now and roll with Severino, Corbin, Tanaka and Paxton as a rotation to match that offense.
Begamin
+Michael
+realgone2
Cashman stated that he wanted to acquire two more starters. They just got one, theyre still trying for another. They have 4 SP (not including Sonny Gray since theyre most likely going to trade him or use him out of the pen) penciled in right now. Until they get another starter the odds of the Yankees acquiring should be considered the same even after this trade.
Doug Dueck
Corbin was born in Clay New York and the Yankees were his favourite team growing up. So yes; I think he will sign with the Yankees
dobsonel
Disagree. Cashman said he needs two after he resigned CC.
Slevin
Dobsonel great move. Now they sign Corbin, Harper, and trade Gray to the Reds. Remember the importance of the downvoter.
dobsonel
Haha Slevin, exactly. I’d be plenty happy with all three of those moves.
It’s funny, that one guy was trying to say a 2B with a year of control was worth Shef, Florial, and Gray yet Cashman just landed a #2 starter with multiple years of control for way way less.
dobsonel
Although I will say if they are interested in Harper, and they don’t want to blow past the tax threshold by that much, there is a few ways to pick up another controlled arm and pass on Corbin saving up to 10 mil on the rotation.
thegreatcerealfamine
Paxton’s salary is just replacing Gray’s from what I’ve read. They still have the salary space to sign both Harper, and Corbin. For all the haters look up the great Yankee teams, and how they always had dominant LH pitching and hitting.
dobsonel
Actually no they don’t. They still need at least 1 bullpen arm. Mix that with Corbin and Harper and they will be over by almost Harper’s entire salary. I’m not saying they won’t do it, just saying that puts them on a 10+ year track of being drastically over which makes it unlikely unless Cashman gets really creative.
MetsYankeesRedSox
Has this trade passed the jelly litmus test yet?
Slevin
MYR AGREED!!!!!!! lol
Kemajic
We don’t have anywhere to play Harper. And no one is going to take on Stanton’s contract and his 211+7 K’s.
dobsonel
I’m against signing Harper but there is a giant hole right there in LF so they do have a spot. And Stanton was a 4 WAR player with 38 HRs on a down year and is over 10 mil cheaper against the tax than Harper or Machado will be so he’s easily tradable. Although the Yanks would be stupid to do that.
Doug Dueck
Stanton has a no trade clause in his contract. So unless he wants out of New York he is not going anywhere
yanks02026
How?
Slipknot37
Paxton, sabathia, severino, tanaka. Still room for one more rotation piece assuming gray of course is traded
lammyj34
Jordan Montgomery
southbeachbully
He’s not going to be available until mid-season.
sambrann
Won’t be back until mid season
Slipknot37
Dont forget he underwent Tommy John surgery. He will probably be ready at the end of next year, so they’ll need someone else or good depth
Yankeepride88
Out until at least August and then on a pitch limit. Most likely a 2020 replacement for CC
Adam6710
You can never have too much pitching. I wouldn’t be surprised if they acquired TWO more pitchers, and if nobody gets hurt during ST, putting Sabathia in the bullpen.
Injuries to starters are an inevitability. Paxton, Sabathia, Tanaka, and Montgomery all went on the DL in 2018, and Montgomery (as others noted) won’t be back until mid-season at least.
DarkSide830
he was always going to the Brewers. Dallas was going to NYY.
Perksy
They will get two more starters. It’s not enough. You can’t count of Sabathia and Paxton giving you more than 50 starts in 2019.
stan lee the manly
Very surprised it’s him and not Kluber
Perksy
Kluber would have taken Sheff, Andujar, Florial, etc. guy is cy young candidate every year, and 32 + starts every year.
unsaturatedmatz
Wowza. Sheffield definitely in the deal. Other names to watch: Andujar, Florial, Tyler Wade, Bird, Albert Abreu and some lower level pitchers.
jh8913
Why would Andujar and Sheffield be involved? That seems like a gross overpay
costergaard2
Tyler Wade can hit in the bigs. He’ll end up going the way of Refsnyder, who also couldn’t hit…
Begamin
Eh, its still much too early to say whether Wade can handle big league pitching. He has the speed and fielding prowess to get a roster spot somewhere if he simply hits .250. Thats a probable scenario possibly worth betting on.
dobsonel
Not too sure about that. Wade looks lost at the plate.
Begamin
While that is true, he has still yet to hit even 150 PA in the majors. It is way to early to put any real judgement on him when it takes about 1000-1500PAs to accurately assess a player
johnrealtime
can’t wait to see yankee fan reactions who seem to think sheff is worth any player in baseball straight up (I’m exaggerating but you get the point)
Waitings The Hardest Part
You are. Yankee fans arent.
johnrealtime
My point was that Yankee fans on here have been overvaluing Sheff in their trade proposals to a very high degree
It is common enough thing for fans to do, I just felt that Yankee fans have been doing it the most extremely so far this off-season. People forget you have to give up talent to get talent
AllRiseForTheJudge
I mean, I’m a Yankees fan, and I do think Sheffield could have headlined a package for something more than Paxton. I don’t know much about the other prospects in the deal, but Sheff definitely could have gone for Kluber or Carrasco.
At the same time, he’s a lefty coming to Yankee Stadium. If he can handle the pressure of a big media market and the expectation to win immediately, he’ll be just fine,
jh8913
I mean I think Cashman and co know more about the trade market than we as fans do
rrddbb44
Looks like the other prospects are relatively minor. As a Yankees fan, I’m fairly happy with the move. But please Cash no more lefties
Adam6710
Sheffield could not have headlined a package for Kluber. Frazier AND Sheffield, maybe. Kluber is a legitimate ace. Paxton is a number 2 at best.
Michael Chaney
Sheffield could have gone for Kluber or Carrasco…if you added a ton more and he wasn’t the main piece.
Sheffield is a good piece, but if he hits his ceiling he’ll probably just be what Paxton is now. The other two guys could be something, but this basically just seems to boil down to the Mariners taking the risk of trading Paxton for someone who could become him in the long run, with his team control and two prospects thrown in to offset the risk.
billysbballz
Not sure the Yanks feel Sheffield could be Paxton at his ceiling to be honest with you.
dobsonel
They could still possibly be in on Kluber if he’s truly available.
jbigz12
The Yankees really can’t be in on Kluber unless they add major league pieces. There’s not enough on the farm to do it right now. There’s a significant difference between Paxton and Kluber.
billysbballz
This was s very good trade. Paxton is a very solid two and they didn’t overpay. To acquire Kluber from the Indians who plan on contending still the Yanks will have to overpay substantially and Yankee fans will not be happy. We now sign Corbin and Kikuchi and still have chips to go after an ace in season if we even need one.
jbigz12
How do you have the chips for an ace? Maybe if there’s a Rental ace available at the deadline. You just took out your top prospect. Florial and Abreu are your best chips left on the table.
dobsonel
Loasiga is also a top 100 prospect.
jbigz12
Loaisiga is a fine prospect too but when you’re dealing for a Corey Kluber you’re going to need more than that. If they want a Greinke type they could easily swing that. Frazier is too much of a wild card to headline a package for an ace right now. Perhaps by mid season he could have built his value way back up again. If they trade for an ace it’ll probably have to be in July.
metseventually 2
OOOOOOOOH WEEEE RICK
baseballlegend1910
Does that mean J.A. Happ will land somewhere else?
jwinker
This makes me think Happ is going back to Toronto.
stratcrowder
I’m glad we’re nabbing him, but I’m not looking forward to the price.
realgone2
how will Paxton fair in the AL East?
morgannyy 2
Wow. Must not have been that high on Sheffield…
dave1775
Great first move!
mlb1225
If Sheffield+ is what The Mariners got out of Paxton, they made out fairly well.
jh8913
What a great move for both teams
southi
Actually I thought Paxton would bring back significantly more. It kind of feels like an under payment.
theloop
Big Maple in the Big Apple. If Sheffield was the price for Paxton, I can’t imagine what Kluber must cost.
luclusciano
They pegged Sheffield as a #3 at best. This is a good move
southbeachbully
Not sure who “they” are.
Slevin
“They” are Yankees hating people pulling things out of thin air.
MetsYankeesRedSox
does ey approves of the big maple?
Slevin
She does look like she’s been hitting the hot cakes hard!!!
MetsYankeesRedSox
LOL!
Haven’t heard that word since Green Acres.
Shiva Kamini
Why is no one focusing on this…. If Sheffield reaches his potential he’s a #3 per MLB.com. with the spare parts the Mariners got back, is this really the best deal they could find??
southbeachbully
Who says that #3 is his ceiling? Please take that with a grain of salt.
Priggs89
So MLB.com thinks he is a #3 starter at best, yet they have him ranked as the #31 prospect in all of baseball. Sound logic.
jbigz12
If you truly believe that Sheffield is a 3 at his ceiling and they rank him as the #31 prospect in all of baseball you’ve gotta be on something good. There’s no logic behind that.
billysbballz
Take the rankings for what they are and read the scouting report attached to that ranking and it states he’s a mid rotation arm and I believe that’s the case. I like his live fastball but I didn’t see enough movement and he lacks control for a top of the rotation arm.
JustOnePitch
The cost for Kluber probably starts with a talent between Torres and Andujar. If a team nets Kluber, it’s going to hurt.
jh8913
Sheffield was never going to be that good and he won’t play well at safeco
TooToughToScuffle
Good strikeout rates and numbers at AA and AAA. Only 22.
sameichel
Haha how is safeco as pitcher friendly ballpark worse for Sheffield than yankee short porch stadium
wayneroo
No he won’t since it isn’t called Safeco anymore. Rumor is T-Mobile will have naming rights starting next season.
themansan
Making moves!!!
TooToughToScuffle
Good move! Guy’s FIP was even better than his ERA and he’s American League material. Safe.
JT19
Which implies that Seattle’s defense costed him some runs. The Yankees infield defense was just as bad.
gson
Donaldson or Machado on the right side of the infield would vastly improve the defense.. When DiDi is back, then the infield defense around the horn gets that much better.. provided Sanchez grows up behind the plate. ..
thegreatcerealfamine
Neither of those guys plays on the “right side of the infield”.
johnrealtime
I do think this is a good move for the Yankees. Paxton has some good raw talent, if he can stay healthy I think he will do well for them. Giving up Sheffield has to hurt but likely less so than what it would have cost to get Kluber or Madbum
Waitings The Hardest Part
In coming Yankee fans talking about how the prospects new York gave up werent all that great and Sheffield isnt gonna be an ace hof player they refused to give up couple weeks ago.
Melchez
Sheffield? Wow. Yankee fans here thought a combo of Frazier and Ellsworth would get him.
Waitings The Hardest Part
Paxton is a hof caliber pitcher who is better than Sale and Kershaw and we gave up a mid rotation starter at best for him- Yankee fans circa 11/19/2018
redsfan48
Career 3.42 ERA, 3.76 this year. Nowhere near the level of Kershaw and absolutely not on Sale’s level. He’s a great pitcher, but he’s not a top-5 or probably even top-10 pitcher in the league.
TooToughToScuffle
Career 3.13 FIP, if he qualified, equivalent to 5th place among all pitchers.
kahnkobra
he’s not a great pitcher
thesheriffisnear
Pretty sure he’s just mocking Yankee fans
Michael Birks
Keep telling yourself that, if you repeat it enough and still won’t come true, better than sale? Come on
driftcat28 2
Lol whoa okay now. I’m a Yankee fan but I’m realistic. Paxton is not in the same league as Sale
Melchez
How many innings will he give you? 150?
johnrealtime
This made me lol. I love the serious replies to this
Marytown1
…and a bag of balls
southbeachbully
Please say “some” and not act like it was the majority. Most sane fans know it would take more than Frazier and Ellsbury would never be in a trade to acquire a plus player. Maybe in deal for a bad contract where money MIGHT need to be offset but even that is unlikely.
unsaturatedmatz
Let the games begin
dobsonel
Sounds like Don Thompson Williams and Erik Swanson are the others.
cvarneski
Makes my Happ to the M’s prediction look better & better. *Mr. Burns voice* eeeexcellent
MrStealYoBase
This assumes Dipoto gets fired at some point right? I’m pretty sure he’s deathly allergic to free agent signings.
dewssox79
are they still going to get corbin
jh8913
Lmao so we gave up Sheffield for Paxton basically another win for the yanks!
Waitings The Hardest Part
Called it already starting
Michael Chaney
You did call it
Melchez
When Sheffield was a yankee, didn’t you say he was untouchable? A sure thing hall of famer?
manny0209
Love it
dewssox79
segura next?
driftcat28 2
Wouldn’t have dealt Sheffield. Mariners got a steal
dewssox79
agreed
duckcmmder
Yess!! Hope is being brought back!!!
GorillaJoe
DiPoto is an idiot, Yankees say thank you, Jerry
driftcat28 2
Yeah right dude, Sheffield was a steal. Cash got fleeced
GorillaJoe
Right, dude, Jerry has continued to trash that franchise…stupid
slider32
Sheffield is not Paxton, not even close! I think Swanson has more upside as MLB starter.
hockeyjohn
Dipoto got fleeced. They should have received at least one more higher rated prospect than #22. And before the Yankee fans tell me they have best farm system, they don’t anymore since Torres, Andular, and others graduated to the parent club.
BronxBomber7
Pax is a great pitcher and he’s AL East proven. Just one of many more moves to be made.
jbigz12
How is Paxton ALE proven? He’s pitched in the ALW his entire career
Astros2333
Its because he no hit the power house Blue Jays.
BashBroJoe
Smart move by the M’s and the Yankees can afford to use prospects in this manner. Good deal for both without even knowing the other names in the deal.
sameichel
Which means Patrick Corbin isn’t a fit for then anymore unless they complete a sonny trade
southbeachbully
Gray’s status isn’t an issue. He can easily be traded as it’s already been said that there are many teams interested in him. Also, he can just be cut sine his contract isn’t guaranteed. Obviously Cash will make sure he gets something in return rather than just a non-tender.
Melchez
I think they still get Corbin
Corbin, Severino, Paxton, Tanaka and.CC, give them an excellent rotation. They have a top bullpen and offense. They have no excuse to be wildcards now.
mlb1225
Wow, The Mariners made out really well in this deal, and same for The Yankees. Dom Thompson has done really well in the minors so far, and could be in the majors by the end of 2019 if he keeps up production similar to what he had this year. Even though Swanson kind of seems like the worst piece going to NY, he’s 25, and did fairly well in the upper minors.
Blue Baron
Swanson isn’t going to NY.
thegreatcerealfamine
I’ve been following Thompson-Williams since college, and sad to see him go.
Ronk325
I like this trade for both teams. Sheffield is talented but probably would have struggled in the AL East. He seems much better suited for the AL West. Also if Paxton can stay healthy he’s the front of the rotation arm the Yankees need
jakethesnizake
From a Yankees Fan to My Fellow Yankee Fans,
You’re a moron if you think this is a good trade for the Yankees.
Sheffield will be better than Paxton and could have stepped into the rotation in 2018 at some point.
Paxton has never thrown more than 160 IP in his career and gets hurt too often.
This was a bozo move by Cashman.
Sincerely,
The Anti-Moron
AllRiseForTheJudge
lol Sheffield is entirely unproven and got lit up in the chances he did get, so you’re projecting a guy who gave up 7 runs and barely lasted 2 innings to be better than a proven pitcher?
Sheffield MIGHT be better than Paxton. In 5 years. The Yankees aren’t 5 years away from winning, they’re expecting to win next year and had to do something to compete with Boston. Sheffield was never getting a real shot at the rotation next year and definitely doesn’t get them over the top. I don’t like the move, as a Yankees fan, and I definitely think Sheffield could headlined a package for Kluber or Carrasco, but for you to say Sheffield is going to be better than Paxton?
Nah, you’re definitely a moron.
jakethesnizake
He’s considered the Yankees #1 prospect for a reason. We should have gotten an ace in any deal that included Sheffield or held on to him until midseason so that we could go get someone.
I won’t look forward to telling you “I told you so” when this guy goes down to injury because that hurts my favorite team, but I will look forward to calling you a moron again.
AllRiseForTheJudge
He’s their #1 prospect because all their other #1 prospects are in the show. I agree that Sheff could have brought back something better than Paxton, but at the end of the day this probably means the ask for Kluber and even Carassco was in the stratosphere.
Likely would have cost Sheffield, one of Andujar or Torres and then some, which I think we can both agree would have been way more of an overpay than Sheffield + a couple middling non-prospects for Paxton.
mikeyank55
Hey Jake,
There’s a logical explanation that was offered by your mother as to why you are so irrational about everything Yankees. She has asked for our help because it appears you have taken a few of your sister’s thongs and have started wearing them. Dude-its cutting off the circulation to your brain. Mom said that all will be forgotten as long as you return them before Thanksgiving you turkey.
HalosHeavenJJ
Sheffield probably won’t be as good as Paxton is right now, but 6 years of him plus some other prospects for 2 years of an increasingly expensive Paxton is a good deal.
jmi1950
The reason Cashman did not call Sheffield up in Sept was that he always planned to trade him. He knew that if he pitched badly in a Sept call up it would hurt his trade value.
stymeedone
By that logic, if he pitched well in a September call up, it would have helped his trade value, and it currently was only enough to get two years of a frequently injured starter, when other prospects were included with him. This trade indicates that his value wasn’t all that much to begin with.
jakethesnizake
He did call him up in September, Jml1950.
southbeachbully
He did call him up. Yeezus.
redsfan48
Wow. If that’s all it took, I can’t believe the Reds didn’t jump on this. Maybe they can get Gray even cheaper now though, and then turn the focus to a deGrom/Thor/Kluber/Carrasco type for a relatively comparable deal.
sameichel
Yep he is one of the only guys I would’ve been happy trading for
JustOnePitch
Keep smoking redsfan48!
southbeachbully
Why would Gray’s trade value decrease because they acquired Paxton? Cash had already let it be known he was trading Gray. The Paxton deal won’t make Cash ok with getting nothing in return.
Slevin
Nope, Price remains the same, also Reds pitching coach is campaigning to get Gray, because of Vanderbilt history.
sameichel
We need to sign Dallas to a three year deal, and Andrew Miller to two year deal, also sign aj pollock to a 1 year deal for him to regain the value that he lost when he got hurt, Dallas and the reds are a perfect match since he is a ground ball pitcher
sameichel
Or if the market allows sign Nathan eovaldi as well instead of Andrew
sameichel
If we don’t sign either Andrew or Nathan we should sign gio Gonzalez, as seen with the Astros since the Justin verlander trade (Gerrit cole went from being average with the pirates to being a perennial ace, Charlie Morton went from being below average to above average) all it takes is one guy for the rest of the rotation to figure stuff out, Dallas would be that kind of guy for the reds
kimball0401
The evil empire strikes again
strostro
Rotation of Severino,Tanaka,Paxton,Corbin and Sabathia is pretty solid
justin-turner overdrive
I wonder if this means they won’t be after Corbin now, being that other teams with more payroll flexibility have spoken up about going hard at him.
southbeachbully
More payroll flexibility than the Yankees? Assuming the Yanks don’t eat any money on Gray’s deal, Paxton’s likely arbitration number will be offset from Gray’s 2018 salary. No increase….maybe even a little saved.
Slevin
Money is no roadblock to signing Corbin for the Yanks, but it most definitely is with the A’s though.
jbigz12
JT who has more flexibility than the Yankees? The Phillies? They’re probably the only ones with more cash to spend this offseason. Not sure how paxton’s 9 million dollar salary effects Corbin in the slightest.
angelsfan4life
Now we need a pole for how long before Jerry Dipsnot trades all three prospects, for a below average major league player
saavedra
Not a bad move, but Yankees got no discount, paying Justus Sheffield and more is definitely top price. He can end up outplaying Paxton.
SirCheeto1
Or he could end up being a bust. Yankees needed a top of the rotation arm, and got one. Their window is now, so any prospect should be expandable.
AndyMeyer
Definitely a sense that the Yankees may now move away from pursuing Corbin and Keuchel and now all in on Machado
Even with the trade for Paxton, they still need pitching help
southbeachbully
So if you acknowledge they still need pitching then why would they now focus all their money (as if Manny was the only FA they could sign) on Manny and not other SP or other players?
HalosHeavenJJ
Paxton and Gray are slated to make nearly identical money. Paxton takes Gray’s rotation spot, the deal will work out to be cash flow neutral, and they’re still in position to pursue Corbin or Morton, or anybody they’d like.
jdgoat
That kind of surprising Gray wasn’t part of the return then.
HalosHeavenJJ
Seattle wants to clear payroll and acquire prospects. Gray does’t accomplish either.
jbigz12
Gray would’ve filled a rotation spot for Seattle and provided a mid season trade chip. He made some sense if he were included.
deweybelongsinthehall
That’s what I thought JD so either Seattle refused him or more likely despite his lousy time at Yankee Stadium, he’s worth more to separately trade.
itslonelyatthetrop
Nothing ticks off the Empire more than a Red October.
Annihilus
This trade is good for both teams. What is great for the Yankees is they still have significant trade chips available. They gave up their top pitching prospect but still have several upper prospects that can get them another significant piece in trade. Next move, sign Corbin. Then trade for Paul Goldschmidt with Florial as a headliner in trade. And finally sign Machado.
Bjoe
Wow. The arrogance of Yankees’ fans..,
southbeachbully
So use our declining resources (prospects) to acquire a 1B on a 1 year deal when we already have an in-house option in Voit who has done nothing to make us think he couldn’t handle the job. Trade Florial, our only CF prospect in the upper minors with Hicks becoming a FA after this season. Then pursue Manny even though we have needs in the SP rotation, the bullpen and LF?
Yanks need to be careful about their moves and I don’t see a trade for Goldscmidt happening.
Astros2333
You already have Bird and Voigt!
bjupton100
Good trade. Mariners should continue down this line but also sign a couple free agents to either get over the hump, or more likely trade by the deadline.
Michael Talarico
No offense to Yankees fans, but you guys literally think everyone with talent in free agency is going to sign with the Yankees. The Yankees are a good team already and can just use their farm system to replenish any holes(mostly); especially after trading for Paxton. The Yanks need to stop throwing money at their problems because that’s what caused them to slump last time.
connolly26
Where do you see the Yankees throwing money in this TRADE?
Michael Talarico
No no no I ment in free agency. I think this trade is good for both the Yankees and Mariners. I was talking about how people keep saying all these top-name free agents will sign with the Yankees.
southbeachbully
Who have the Yanks thrown money at the last 3 years? Aside from Chapman perhaps. The only position players earning more than $5 mil are Stanton, Ells, Gardner and DIdi.
Michael Talarico
?, The Yankees currently have 6 players making over $5 million. That includes Tanaka,Ellsbury,Sabathia,Stanton, Chapman, and Gardner.
Plus they’re still paying off Alex Rodriguzes massive contract at $4000000 per year.
If the Yankees want to not or barely go over the luxury tax, they need to shed some salary fast. Especially when you consider that Judge,Gregorious,Torres,and Sanchez will be asking for pay raises eventually(possibly to 7 figures each).
Doug Dueck
ARod is not being paid as a player. His playing contract was completed last year which the Yankees bought out and had him work for management. Judge, Torres and Sanchez all have arbitration years left . Gregorius is in his final year. Settle down Michael.
Michael Talarico
Oh I just read that you put position players only, my bad.
Oh and I forgot to mention Gregorious is making over $5 million too, making 7 players.
slider32
Slump, they reloaded without only missing the payoffs once! Cashman is a wizzard, Paxton has a projected WAR of 4.4 which is second to Sevy. Sheffield will never have a 4 WAR.
Michael Talarico
By slump I mean 2013-2016. They were slipping to 3rd and 4th place in the division those years. The main cause of that was because the Yankees practically did the same thing the Phillies did; keeping past-their-prime old players like Teixura and Rodreguiz. They waited a little too long to replace the core and slumped as a result.
I agree with you about Brian Cashman. The guys one of the best gm’s in baseball no dought.
jbigz12
Doubt. I don’t know what “dought” is brother that’s the first time I’ve ever seen that word.
JT19
Every team’s fans always overvalue their favorite team’s prospects until he is traded, when his value suddenly crashes and fans praise the deal as a steal. This entire year all you heard was how Sheffield was going to be a great pitcher and how he was close to untouchable in a trade. I’m not saying he’s going to be great nor am I saying he’s going to bad, but its amazing how many people jump off the bandwagon and trash him when they were probably begging the Yankees to call him up during the season.
southbeachbully
Hmmm it seems like most of the ppl dogging Sheff are non-Yankee fans. Most Yankee fans act as if the sky is going to fall whenever a highly-ranked prospect is traded.
But let’s make it clear. Sheff was not a product of Yankee hype. He was a top 100 prospect when we acquired him.
billysbballz
Not true
I’m a big tanker fan and love my prospects but I really like this move because I didn’t see Sheffield as more than a mid rotation arm and potentially a bullpen arm if he doesn’t fix control issues.
AllRiseForTheJudge
As a Yankees fan, I’m definitely a bit surprised that a guy with 6 years of control was moved for Paxton, who has two years left, will be on the wrong side of 30 on opening day, and would be a #3 starter on any team other than the Mariners or maybe the Marlins.
I definitely think Sheffield could have headlined a deal for someone better, but I’m assuming this trade means Cleveland’s asking price for Kluber – and probably Carassco – is astronomical.
What’s Cashman’s next move? Machado? Corbin? Someone else?
Bjoe
The Yankees fleeced the Mariners on this deal
southbeachbully
Wrong side of 30? He just turned 30 a week ago.
turner9
He would have been the Jays ace also.
So hard to root for the Yankees, but might have to every 5th day. I feel so dirty
costanza
He’s a number 3 on very few teams. He’s a number 2 on both WS teams from last year. Where is he a number 3? Astros and Indians probably, kind of funny to say but the Mets. Not many other places.
rbachman22
Once Gray is gone by this weekend it’s on to either a Corbin FA Signing or a Kluber trade fronted by Andujar. That won’t happen for a while as Yanks have to line it up with Machado’s GG coming to NY.
lowtalker1
Don’t think anyone saw that coming
slider32
Another great move by Cashman, he trades for Paxton a top end lefty pitcher who is only making 9 million. This allows the Yanks to still sign Corbin and go after Machado or Harper. Cashman could go in the other direction and sign Murphy, and add a relief pitcher like Ottavino.
lowtalker1
I don’t know I kinda think Seattle got the better end of things
Astros2333
You know you can only field three outfielders? How many outfielders do you plan on having your 25 man roster?
Goose
People are getting out of their skis on this one. If Paxton can remain healthy it is a very good move for the Yankees. What hurt them is they didn’t do anything to improve the rotation last year. They must really be down on Sheffield helping this year or achieving similar levels as Paxton. On the surface it isn’t a bad deal for either team. Of course I said that when they hooked up on the Montero/Pineira trade and that blew right up. I would have like to see the Yankees go all in on a veteran ace. A rotation where Soriano and Paxton are 2, 3 respectively with a proven ace on top should get them past the Red Sox for the division. Their window is right now.
southbeachbully
The Montero/Pineda trade was a bad trade for the Yanks ONLY if you consider who he may have fetched if they had moved him earlier. But since he’s playing in the Mexican league and the Yanks were able to get a few years out of Pineda then they sold high and while they didn’t get all they wanted from Pineda it’s better than if they held on to Montero and he ended up struggling like he has in Seattle, etc
justin-turner overdrive
Do Sheffield and Swanson go direct into the M’s rotation? Looks like it. Swanson had great numbers at AAA last year.
metseventually 2
Another train robbing move by Cashman. Unbelievable.
jdgoat
I don’t know about that. This could blow up in either teams faces.
Stevil
Yeah, it was. It’s November 19th and this was the best Jerry could haggle for? Sheffield’s legit, but this is underwhelming to say the least.
jbigz12
This was what Paxton was worth. He’s never pitched more than 165 innings. You can argue he’s had freak injuries or whatever you please but it’s a fact. We don’t know if Paxton can give you 200 innings at the level we’ve seen. There’s risk involved with him. Hence why Sheffield was the main piece. Not surprising at all. M’s fans had pie in the sky dreams on this guy and it just wasn’t reality.
batty
I feel like this line in the article “though they’ll still have ample financial flexibility to go after any available pitchers” is there just to keep those of us who had Corbin going to the Yankees in the contest away from bridges.
slider32
Paxton with a 4.4 WAR just made the Yanks the best team on paper moving into the winter meetings. Cashman is a wizzard, top pitcher with a short term commitment.
deweybelongsinthehall
The game is played on the field and unless Houston and Boston lose everyone and bring back no one, the Yankees are still the third best team in the AL. They certainly can win and Boston is not eight games better but they likely won’t have to be again. I highly doubt all three teams again win 100 games.
Astros2333
ROFLMAO
Danny B.
If this is what the Mariners got for Paxton, then the ante on Syndergaard just went up. Never thought I’d say this, being a Mets fan & all, but thank you Brian Cashman. As for Brodie Van Wagenen, get to work and make that mega-trade involving Syndergaard that we deserve.
baseball10
Braves will gladly take syndergaard for our best pitching prospect and two throw ins!
Danny B.
I would only trade Syndergaard to the Braves for Acuna or Albies. Mets don’t need prospects. Let’s do Syndergaard, Gimenez, Nimmo, Frazier & Cash for Acuna & Austin Riley. Boom!!! Trade helps both teams, no doubt about it.
deweybelongsinthehall
Danny B. I hope that was a joke because if not, the boom you heard was the reverb on all of the Braves’ fans together laughing like they were watching Seinfeld for the first time. Mr. B – No soup for you!
deweybelongsinthehall
Danny B., I’m not so sure. Nice comparison. While Thor has an amazing upside, he also has an injury history. The Mets may think his value is far superior but decide to hold off until the deadline. If Thor remains off the DL and pitches up to expectations, he could be the top 07/31 trade target. Might also depend on the team. The Braves will likely have to overwhelm the Mets given they’re in the same division. Same with the Yankees (same city), Phillies and Washington. Might though be a good match with SD as has been mentioned but also the A’s, Houston, St. Louis or Cleveland.
Begamin
Wish they didnt give up Sheffield to be honest. They had a lot of pitching prospects to choose from, I didnt think they needed to part with their best one.
Dipoto strikes again and Ninja Cash has made another move on the chess board. Wonder how it will all turn out in at least 2-3 years time.
Bjoe
Rich get richer.
24TheKid
Dipoto just said they have an open mind to moving Diaz, Haniger, and Gonzalez. But they need to be blown away, so expect more to come from Dipoto.
24TheKid
Said it on 710 espn Seattle.
baseball10
Wheeling dealing Jerry can never be counted out on anything
Stevil
Cashman picked Jerry’s pocket.
jbigz12
Not at all. The stros wouldn’t trade Whitley. This is what he was worth. They got the best pitching prospect they could. Sheffield is one of the top 7-8 pitching prospects in all of baseball. He’s major league ready and controllable for 5 seasons. Pax is a starter who we’ve yet to see for a whole season. He showed flashes of brilliance last year and his FIP and xFIP looked better than his ERA. As it has for the last 3 years. His HR rate spiked last year in Seattle. It wasn’t a huge number but it was nowhere near the elite number he had been producing. Is that going to improve in NY? I don’t know. Sonny gray certainly showed it’s not so easy to transition. There’s a lot more risk in Paxton than people were willing to account for in their proposed trades on these sites and it’s not all injury related risk.
Gordon Lightfoot
Good trade for the pinstripes. Ironic that Seattle is trying to rebuild on the fly, much as the Yanks did, and initiating the approach by trading with New York. Cashman no doubt recognized the dynamic.
24TheKid
Maybe Sheffield is the key to the quick rebuild…
jbigz12
I don’t think Seattle wants the complete tear down considering they’ve missed the postseason for 2 decades. Dipoto won’t last through a lengthy rebuild so if that was the route the M’s were going to take it was always going to be this one. Not a bad deal for them they got a high upside lefty with as much potential as the one they gave away. Whether or when he’ll hit that ceiling is anyone’s guess. Gonzales and Sheffield make for a good start to a rotation. They’re just in a tough spot with their basically barren farm.
Priggs89
Wasn’t Sheffield untouchable?
Niekro
Does the eagle come with him in the deal?
stansfield123
Meh. I guess it makes sense, at this price. The Yankees have a tough year coming up, because the Red Sox are still very strong (for one last year…after 2019, their goose is cooked, they traded away too much young talent).
So I can see why the Yanks are trading a prospect for some short term value. They need all they can get to try and beat the Red Sox next year.
But Paxton is no ace. He doesn’t solve our biggest need: someone we can be confident in when he takes the mound in the post season. Paxton is behind Sevy and Tanaka in the rotation. Behind Corbin, too, if they sign him. And he’s injury prone, so look forward to more dead payroll, on top of Ellsbury, Didi, Chapman, CC, and possibly Tanaka (who’s been defying predictions on when he’ll need surgery, but he can’t defy them indefinitely)
Yankees still have holes. This is not the time to waste payroll on trophy signings like Machado or Harper, who play positions we’re covered at.
southbeachbully
Ells is the only “dead money” guy that should be mentioned. CC performed well last year and is only signed to 1/$8 mil. I dare you to find someone comparable on the open market cheaper. Also, Didi might be “dead money” if the Yanks pick up his last arbitration year. But it’s not like Didi is a sunken cost because of poor performance. He’s been extemely underpaid the last 2 seasons relative to what he would get on the open market. Would not be shocked if the Yanks brought in a guy like Hechavvaria (pardon me if I spelled it incorrectly) and maybe renegotiate a 2 year deal for Didi for a less than his likely arbitration numbers.
stansfield123
Dead money is dead money. If a guy spends time on the DL, he’s dead money during that time. All the guys I mentioned spent time on the DL this year, and are very likely to do it again in 2019. Ellsbury and Didi are guaranteed, CC and Chapman have chronic leg injuries, and Tanaka has a big enough health concern that they’re putting him on the DL over stuff other guys would pitch through no problem. Now we’ve got Paxton in the mix….a 30 year old who never pitched for a full season in his entire career. In fact he only pitched 2/3 of a season once.
That’s not a problem for most clubs, because insurance pays for it, and the club can just spend the insurance money on a replacement. But the Yankees can’t, because they have to pay luxury tax on the dead money…and that luxury tax goes to the competition. So it’s foolish of them to keep adding injury prone players.
southbeachbully
You have no idea what you’re talking about. Yanks have about $20 mil tied up into Ells and they still acquired Stanton. Part of Cashman’s plan was to collect a bunch of young assets that were going to be cheap in the near future. I’m not worried about a budget. Using Paxton as an example of “returning to the old wasys” is ridiculous. We’re not talking about a 35 year old has been. Also, Corbin as a FA is far more of a risk than Paxton, So if it’s ok to acquire a Corbin, or even a Happ then we should have no issue with this trade as the prospect cost probably is less than fair market value cost for a top SP.
thegreatcerealfamine
I don’t know where you’re getting any of that from. If you’re really a Yankee fan, you’d realize this is a steal.
Bocephus
He’s obviously not.
slider32
Forget it, Stanton is a Yankee! Cashman got him at a good price, average of 25 million a year. He has a no trade clause, and the Yanks were one of the teams he wanted to go to. He turned down a trade to Giants last year.
David C
How is the Red Sox’s “goose cooked” after 2019, and this business about them trading away “too much young talent?” The headliner in the Sale deal looks like a mess, the second big name, Kopech, really really looked like a bust so far. In the Kimbrel deal with Padres, Margot the centerpiece also looks like a bust who was blocked at outfield anyway. Pomeranz cost the Red Sox a guy who had to have Tommy John’s and who will thus be on DL for next year and change. And while I miss Travis Shaw (Brewers got him in what ended up as a bad trade for Sox), Devers was always their future at 3B, and still is.
When 2019 expires, the Red Sox will still have Mookie Betts, Andrew Benentendi, Xander Bogaerts, Jackie Bradley, Jr., David Price, Eduardo Rodriguez, Rafael Devers, Dustin Pedroia (and if not, insurance will offset much of his contract) and Matt Barnes under continued control beyond 2020.
The Red Sox are a wealthy team (one of games top 3 revenue earners) with a load of bad contracts expiring after 2019 (Sandoval, Castillo, etc.). Their ownership group will give the green light to spend, I guarantee you, and plug holes.
baseball10
I like the deal for the Yanks. Those prospects on the big east coast markets tend to be overrated as a whole. Paxton is a proven force with moderate cost. The other two prospects are throw-ins. Rich get richer is the way i see it and im not close to anything resembling a yankees fan
Yanks2
I predicted this today
Balk
This pitcher is going to get smashed in that ballpark! Lol!
thegreatcerealfamine
Very mature and informative post.
Balk
Ummm, ok, 326 ft and 331ft down the lines in Seattle, to 318 at Yankee stadium. Most of dudes homers he gave up in 2018 were down the left field line. Gave up 23 homers last year. Good luck. Lol was that informative for ya!? Or was that immature?! Lol he’s going to get roasted in that ballpark.
DarkSide830
might just be 0-3 now
Adriann
We need to win the division and beat the Sox and this doesn’t help. We needed solid innings in the second half and some good innings in the post-season and only one starter pitched 5 innings(Tanka) in the ALDS. He at best will look like Sale and pitch 170 innings than flame out and maybe be spot starter/reliever in the post season. This doesn’t make us better against the Sox as Happ has better better than Happ the last 3 years:/
southbeachbully
Doesn’t help. Essentially, he takes Gray’s spot in the rotation. How is that not an improvement? I still think they’ll go after another TOR pitcher.
thegreatcerealfamine
It is a vast improvement. wtf is up with these people?
billysbballz
No Baseball IQs on here!
SoCalADRL
I’m actually more surprised Dipoto added a prospect instead of trading one
Blue Baron
He didn’t. Paxton is the only player he gave up.
David ellis
Remember when The Yankees and their fans didn’t want to trade for Gerrit Cole if Sheffield was in the deal? Now they got an older less accomplished player for him. Morons
24TheKid
Do you think that the fact that Yankee fans didn’t want to give up Sheffield impacted Cashmans decision?
southbeachbully
No. I remember they didn’t want to give up Frazier AND one of Andujar and Sheffield. And keep in mind that was before Frazier had the concussion and was a top 50 prospect just looking for a chance to crack the OF.
jmi1950
Cashman’s two bonehead moves:
1. Not blocking Verlander in August 2017;
2. Not getting G Cole.
May have cost NYY 2 WS.
Most moves have pro’s and con’s but those two were all pro and no con.
24TheKid
It definitely cost them the 2017 World Series, don’t know about 2018 though.
Begamin
Hindsight 20-20 strikes again.
jmi1950
Actually if you go back and check the comments from July 2017 you will see I argued that Houston should over pay for Verlander.
If you check the comments from early 2018 you will see I argued that both Hou and the NYY should over pay for G Cole because he was the only SP difference maker available and could be the finally piece for either.
Bocephus
“May have” enough said…
southbeachbully
I don’t think you can look at it that way. The same way Sonny Gray excelled in Oakland but struggled in NY shows it can happen in any situation. And if the Yanks had traded top prospects for then then 34 yo Verlander with 2/$56 left on his contract people would criticize that the Yanks were pulling a Boss circa 1986 move. And I truly think that Cole came into his own because he pitched along side of a similar power pitcher in Verlander. Shoot….Phil Hughes might have been a stud if he played somewhere else early in his career. You just can’t factor in the “unknown”.
Begamin
The Astros coaching staff has turned around so many pitchers for the better. Because of this, its hard to say that if the Yankees got a hold of either of the two that they would have pitched as well as they have for the Astros. I mean, the Astros were able to make Charlie Morton good, they can seemingly make any pitcher realize their potential.
kenly0
I’d take 6 years of Sheffield over 2 from Paxton.
bernbabybern
I think it’s a good trade for both sides.
doxiedevil
Yankees want to be in World series in 2019, not 2023
stymeedone
They’re the Yankees. They want to be in the World Series in 2019 AND 2023, and the years in between. Still, I would have preferred the 6 years of Sheffield, because he is ready now. It’s not that he wouldn’t have been ready for a couple years. Paxton will do well for NY, but Seattle, in my opinion, did better.
Mark Drzewiecki
This trade is more about the money. $9 million for Paxton vs $20+ million for Corbin. With Sonny Gray being traded the salary is a wash for Paxton. Yankees are gearing up to spend.
Begamin
Yeah, theyre gonna spend on Corbin. They were already geared to spend before the trade.
billysbballz
Corbin will be a Yankee and the Yanks will also look at Kikuchi. Gonin with 6 starters makes a ton of sense.
CC
Severino
Tanaka
Paxton
Corbin
Kikuchi
Astros2333
That rotation doesn’t look great.
Begamin
In what way? Its a bit unorthodox with the 6-man thing going on but its not a bad rotation.
Astros2333
Sevy imploded late last year after a strong start, CC and his knee are not reliable, Paxton is possibly on the verge of a full season, but still has yet to reach over 160 innings, Tanaka is going the wrong way after a strong 199 innings in 2016, and Corbin is not AL east tested after dealing with the bottom of the NL west. Don’t forget he’ll have to deal with another hitter in the AL with the DH.
CompanyAssassin
YUCK.
HankMoody
Hahahaha!!! “the Yanks now appear unlikely to pursue more than one additional starter” We have Severino, Tanaka, and now Paxton … but the Yankees are unlikely to pursue anyone else. Right. CC will be an “opener” or a 3-4 inning reliever, or a spot starter in the 6 or 7 spot for when someone goes down or needs rest. We’ll be making at least one, probably two more big splashes.
Also, keep in mind that we never know exactly what Cashman is up to. Paxton is worth more than Sheffield at this point. He could turn around and trade Paxton for an even better arm!
some guy 2
What are the odds Swanson outperforms Sheffield for the M’s? Not too shabby, I think.
coocoo
Who is a better pitcher Paxton or Sherri elf?
luclusciano
Sherri elf is hard to see as she can throw a ball with a little Christmas magic reaching about 158 on her slider. In seriousness – as of today – Paxton. He has proven himself on the major league level and is affordable. For a 2019 outlook – Paxton wins this over Sheffield.
turner9
What are you up to? How’s your phone auto correcting Sheffield to Sherri elf.
Can learn alot about people from their auto correct
Bob Knob
Sherri Elf … actress born in 1975 in St. Louis MO
…… no great TV or Movie roles …known for Dancing Mom in Buick commercials in early 2000’s
coocoo
Wow. You looked that up. Hope santa brings you a life for Christmas
coocoo
Sheffield
driftcat28 2
This deal probably takes them out of a Kluber deal. I think they can still get Corbin and Happ though
luclusciano
Just one or the other. Can’t imagine them picking up 2 more lefty starters.
johnsonjack87
If They Wind Up Signing Patrick Corbin & Re-Signing J.A. Happ,After Already Re-Signing C.C. Sabathia,Then What Will Their Rotation Look Like Next Year?
andrewgauldin
Well it will include Corbin, Paxton, Happ, and Sabathia. I mean you’re 4/5 of the way there bro, figure it the hell out.
Perksy
I’d like them to also doing Corbin and Happ. But what happened to Severino and Tanaka?
⚾The Heater from Van Meter⚾
Get ready Gary Sanchez, Paxton is known to throw more than a few WP’s.
chino31
Sheffield reminds me of Tom Gordon. Hyped up as a starter but probably end up in the pen as a seventh or eight inning reliever. But nothing wrong with that. Bullpen arms made decent money in the league.
billysbballz
I kind of agree.
juicemane
Dipoto is running this franchise into the ground….horrible trade could of gotten more
How could he be trusted after what he did in Anahiem?
titanic struggle
And the rich get richer. One day, there will be 5-6 teams left in the US and the rest scattered throughout the world. The game I love is gone, thank God I’ll be dead before I see it…
hogan78
The game you love is soccer?
painterman360
Lol
MetsYankeesRedSox
Watch LPGA if you feel that way.
That Lexi Thompson is eye candy.
bobtillman
We don’t know the physicals on Paxton, but the return strikes me as a little light. Not a lot light….just a little. It would seem that in a starter-starved market, JDP could have gotten a bit more.
That said, this can only be the first step for the Spanks. Neglect the final standings; like a football game that starts of 45-0, and winds up 45-30, it was never as close as the score indicated. The Spanks got a decent starter; how much better Paxton is is TBD. And he’s gonna miss the defense in Seattle.
But the Yanks need AT LEAST another starter, and some bullpen-ers. Otherwise, it’s just another race to the Wild Card.
thegreatcerealfamine
Or maybe the Red Sox don’t play out of their minds this year. Oh and there’s plenty of wholes on the Sox, and that’s why they play the games, Bobby.
Blue Baron
How many whole, complete holes are there?
Slevin
Jelly in your belly.
xabial
James Paxton got you the Yankees’ #1 ranked Prospect. Count your blessings. James Paxton. Lol.
billysbballz
Love life love this trade for the Yankees. Sheffield is one of the best you g left handed arms in the minors but his ceiling was possibly a mid rotation arm and at his small stature who knows. We needed a pitcher like Paxton to plug into the number two spot. Nice trade for both teams but as a Yankee fan I’m happy no Frazier, Florial, Abreu, etc.
slider32
Agreed, Paxton has a projected 4.4 WAR.
surfguru
How about this? Yanks trade Stanton to the Dodgers for Bellinger, then sign Harper and one more pitcher.
Blue Baron
Why would the Dodgers do that?
Slevin
Because he said so, Stewey Met.
billysbballz
They wouldn’t
Lol
toomuchpie
A “Stanton to LA” trade proposal…how original.
debubba
He gave up 23 homeruns last year in a pitcher friendly park. Expect that number, and his ERA to climb.
Knowthemarket
When it’s a Yankees thread, you know it’s going to fill up fast. Almost 300 posts in 2 hours.
I took a look at Paxton’s injury history and it’s interesting. Among his injuries that have side lined him;
2 back injurie
3 finger injuries
3 left forearm (one was pitch hit back at him)
1 Pectoral Muscle
This is obviously not detailed but what should be striking is that none of these are shoulder or elbow ligament issues. The only issue he had last year was pneumonia. It’s encouraging that none of the other issues, such as his fingers or forearm issues resurfaced.
This is a high risk/high reward trade that Cashman decided was worth it. Even if this move flops I can see why he pulled the trigger. If they sign Corbin which seems like a really good chance, the Yankees will have a formidable rotation on paper.
1 Pneumonia
Perksy
High risk because of the injury history, but low risk because he is 2 years under control so no big commitment with him. Much like Gray
SoCalBrave
Yankee fan before Paxton trade: “Sheffield is untouchable! He’s the best pitching prospect ever!”
Yankee fan after Paxton trade: “Sheffield is overrated and a bad guy that screwed over his own agent, if he’s lucky he’ll be a mediocre relief pitcher”
bobtillman
,,,,Red Sox coulda had him for Swihart……
Astros2333
Took the words out of my mouth.
baseballpun
Glad someone said it.
yanks02026
No one said he was untouchable but nice try.
rocky7
How about this….before the trade SoCalBrave didn’t know snit, SoCalBrave after yankee trade still doesn’t know snit.
There isn’t a substantial fan base that comments on this site that doesn’t play homer about their major league team’s personal and their farm teams personal also.
Its called being a fan and if you can’t take it then use your west coast attitude to_____________
JKB 2
But SoCalBrave nailed it. What he said was true. You do not even deny it. You just justify it. Good trade for the Yankees but SoCalBrave was dead on in his comment. If you cant handle the truth thats your problem not his.
billysbballz
Nahhhh that’s not Yankee fans. Most Yankee fans like Holl our young prospects but see Sheffield as a work in progress and Paxton ceiling as higher. Paxton is a solid 2. Not an Ace but a solid 2.
Frank kemble
Phillies need to swoop in and sign Corbin, now that the Yankees have added Paxton. Sheffield is a nice building block for the Mariners..
hogan78
Paxton is what Sheffield aspires to become. Until he does that and assuming Paxton stays healthy and effective, the Yanks win this one.
billysbballz
Sheffield is not Paxton or Paxton life. Sheffield is small and lacks above average control. If he is a Johann Santana lite then Seattle did very well here but I’m guessing he’s either a mid rotation arm or a valuable bullpen piece.
Markdashark
Assuming that he stays healthy??? Lmao
IjustloveBaseball
Dang, what a deal for the Mariners. Getting Sheffield alone is quite the score, but the other two pieces Seattle received have some promise too, based on their numbers in the minor leagues.
Not saying the Yankees got fleeced here though. Paxton is a guy with elite stuff who is capable of pushing the Yankees rotation over the top if he’s right. Health wise yeah, Pax hasn’t been a star of durability, but you never know, maybe he puts the injury bug behind him. If James Paxton can even make 55ish starts over the next two years, he should still provide excellent value for the Yankees.
Danny B.
Okay, word is that the Astros are desperately trying to add a top of the rotation SP via trade vs free agent signing. Even though a Syndergaard for Correa trade, straight up makes a lot of sense, I have a more realistic proposal. I want people’s honest opinion if you would do this trade if you were the Mets and/or Astros. Here we go:
Astros get: Noah Syndergaard
Mets get: J.D. Davis, Josh James, Myles Straw & J.B. Bukauskas
Now think about it. The Astros get an Ace caliber pitcher to pair with Cole while holding onto their core roster and without giving up any of their top 3 prospects. Now for the Mets, this one trade does four things for them. Gives them a solid, cheap & controllable option at 3B, gives them an instant replacement SP in Josh James, gives them a possible leadoff hitter in Straw and even might supply the Mets with a potential closer in Bukauskas. I think this trade makes a ton of sense.
Bruin1012
I don’t see a Syndergaard trade not headlined by one of their two best prospects. I might be wrong but just don’t see it. It would need to fronted by Whitley or Tucker plus to get Thor.
Danny B.
I would love Whitley but hearing that he & Tucker are untouchable.
billysbballz
Are you a mat fan???? If sooo you need to root for another team.
JKB 2
Danny B. You heard they are untouchable so you do not bother to ask or demand at least one? Well then tell the Astros there is nothing to talk about! Do not settle for lesser prospects. You do not think other teams will pony up some better prospects than what you wanted to settle for?
rocky7
Bruin1012…..hey man you’re really being too kind to this DannyB with his brainiac trade proposal for his Astros and the NY Muts!
His proposal is idiotic and even Mets management isn’t that stupid.
rocky7
Even the Mets aren’t stupid enough to sell cheaply…..your darn right that either Whitley or Tucker would have to headline, with additions, to get Syndergaard.
Hey Astros, your not going to get another dumbass move like Pittsburg’s for Cole…..lightning doesn’t strike twice like that!
Danny B.
My proposal is far more educated than anything you’ve ever said. Stop trolling.
JKB 2
Bruin now that is a trade that make sense
Astros2333
I don’t know what Thor’s contract but if he has two years left then I may do that. James may hurt after seeing what he did this year.
Danny B.
Syndergaard has 3 years left.
rocky7
Wow, not a Mets fan but what a deal you propose for what I believe is your home town Astros….
So your proposing the Astros give up garbage and get a top of the line Ace caliber ( I believe those are your exact words for Thor) pitcher.
Possible leadoff hitters, potential closer, cheap and controllable option at 3B, and an instant bum replacement SP…..WOW you really must think Mets management can’t walk and think at the same time!
Markdashark
Not a Mets fan or a stros fan. Just happened to see your proposal and wow….
Never in a million years do the astros get him for that package lmao.
Definitely going to take 1 of your top 2 and maybe both. But start with one and then your #3 and 4
IjustloveBaseball
I actually think that would be a relatively fair trade for both sides. In the real world though, the Astros would likely have to include another upper-tier or elite prospect to get a deal done.
I really like Josh James’ stuff, and players with Straw’s skill-set are all the more valuable in today’s all or nothing game. Bukauskas then gives the Mets a legit prospect which gives them a nice potential arm for the more distant future. the only one I’m not too high on is J.D. Davis. Based on his numbers in the majors so far, he sort of reeks of a AAAA player to me. However, it would be foolish to judge a guy based on 165 AB’s.
All things considered, Syndergaard hasn’t been the healthiest pitcher the last couple of seasons (given the injuries though, you could argue the time missed has a silver lining) and both his K/9 and BB/9 were career worsts in 2018. Nonetheless, Syndergaard still has #1 type stuff and should continue being nothing less than a budding ace.
Markdashark
The mariners were demanding an elite prospect for a 30 year old James Paxton, with an injury history as extensive and coming off a 3.76 era with horrible second half. There is no way in hell you get a 26 yr old Thor with 3 years of control left for anything less than one of your top prospects lol
billysbballz
The Astros traded for Cole last season and got him for much less then what the Pirates demanded from the Yankees so I’m not sure where your facts are.
Markdashark
Well cole the season he was traded is certainly not syndergaard
JKB 2
Think about it. You are not getting Noah and keeping all of your top 3 prospects. No say NY Mets do that.
Great deal for Houston. Lousy deal for Mets.
Chief Jay Strongbow
Wow—Now Dombrowski needs to make a big trade.
Bald Vinny
Why? They’ve replaced JA Happ with Paxton. He’ll be Sonny Gray 2.0
Bald Vinny
This officially puts Cashman ahead of Dombrowski as a farm dumper.
yanks02026
Thank you for showing who the clueless people are on this thread. Go troll somewhere else
Bald Vinny
Couldn’t have done it without you.
Here he is…. Clueless.
Bizzie
When did the Yankees become bargain shoppers, top 5 pitcher in the game available,but you get the injury proned Canadian?
stansfield123
I assume this means the Mariners are in full sell-off mode? If so, the Yanks should get Cano back. He’d be the only position player they need. Middle of the order lefty hitter, able to fill in in the middle-infield until Didi is back, then move to 1B or DH, depending on where the need is.
And yes, I know he’s signed until age 40. That’s fine. The Mariners will pay for that, the Yankees wouldn’t have to take on all his salary.
Bald Vinny
Gotta feel for Sheffield in this deal. He was mlbpipeline’s #31 prospect prior to the trade. How many spots does this trade drop him? Lower 60s? Upper 50s? That Yankees shine is gone.
billysbballz
It’s opposite
I’ll bet you one season of not being allowed to comment on mob trade rumors that before the season starts he will not drop more then 5 spots and potentially may jump up 5!
Bald Vinny
Deal. Is that an FBI snitch site?
bcjd
I hope this works out for NYY like the Michael Piñeda trade.
Bald Vinny
Yikes… Anybody look what happens when he doesn’t pitch in Seattle? Not pretty.
Balk
Exactly
Nick W
Resign Happ for half of Corbin. Trade Andujar for Mad Bum. Sign Machado off season over.
Markdashark
As far as the yankee trade goes. It’s up in the air as to who wins it.
I personally don’t think it’s good for the Yankees.
I feel that Sheffield is ready to be slotted in a rotation this year and may actually be decent, stay healthy, and have 6 years of control at age like 23.
Paxton is 30, had a terrible second half and absolutely can not stay on the field. Also with two years of control left and already making 9 mil.
I just think the Yankees needed a #1 or 1A. And what they got is a completely unreliable pitcher who also pitches like a 1 sometimes and pitches like a 3-4 the other half when he is able to even pitch
billysbballz
I have to disagree on everything you just stated. Sheffield has a good arm but he doesn’t have Paxton ceiling and most likely never will.
Markdashark
Paxton’s ceiling is sort of irrelevant at this point because he has pretty much proved he can’t reach and maintain it.
Markdashark
So now the Yankees have
Severino – terrible second half
Tanaka -terrible most of the time
Paxton – terrible second half and is injured constantly
CC – probably just going to be average or worse
MantleBats
Good Pitcher , Overreaction Trade Move .
Last years Gerritt Cole proposal that Cashman declined, still prob haunts him.
billysbballz
No it Doesn’t haunt him. They wanted Andujar, Frazier, Sheffield for Cole. That doesn’t haunt me!
Maybe it haunts you?
Dutch Vander Linde
Yankees went flea market shopping, traded for a pitcher who has never got more than 12 wins in a season. smh!
Markdashark
It’s not even about the win total, he has never been able to stay healthy for more than 160 innings and he’s 30
CincyMariner
Yeah, he just finished his 29 year old season, still in his prime and still valuable. If you are worried about innings pitched, we can keep Paxton and you can take Leake and his “solid” 185 IP. Oh, Leake isn’t as good? But it’s about innings pitched you said. Hmmm. Let’s see, 160 IP of front line caliber starter or 200 IP of an innings eater?!
Let’s look at this another way, Paxton will give you 320+ elite innings in 2019 and 2020. That’s equal to 4 seasons of Josh Hader (best reliever in the NL, 2nd best in baseball) and you think that’s a problem?? What is the hell is wrong with you people. How much trade cost would Hader be worth at 4 seasons and $25M? Yet you get that production compressed over 2 seasons, while having Tanaka, Sabathia, and Severino eating innings to lessen the concern over Paxton. Not to forget the stud bullpen the Yankees will build, this alone makes almost all of his starts a win for the Yankees. Here’s the logic by fangraphs….
fangraphs.com/blogs/get-ready-for-a-james-paxton-b…
fangraphs.com/blogs/the-yankees-now-have-a-second-…
Markdashark
Dude your comparisons are awful…
First off James Paxton has thrown 160 innings once and it was last season, to the tune of a 3.76 era… so not sure where your getting any of those comparisons from? Elite? Assuming 320 innings over 2 seasons when he has only thrown 160 once.. just a lot of leaps. And I like I said 3.76 era is not elite, especially when he only even pitches good in Seattle.
One other thing over the last 5 seasons, James Paxton averages about a 2.2 war per year… that’s not anything good or elite.. not even close..
CincyMariner
Yeah wins, I forgot people still rank pitchers by a team based stat. By that logic Machado playing for Baltimore this past season was total crap, I mean his team couldn’t even win when he was playing. I guess some stupid team will pay him $30M over 5 years to suck since the Orioles couldn’t win with him. Suckers!!!
(Sarcasm, dripping wet with sarcasm, calm down if you actually took this seriously)
JKB 2
And deGrom had 10 wins and won the Cy Young so whats your point
rmullig2
The Mariners acquire the Yankees’ #1 prospect again. Let’s see how it works out this time.
Danny B.
Another great proposal involving Syndergaard is trading him to the Padres. Here we go:
Padres get: Noah Syndergaard
Mets get; Luis Urias, Franchy Cordero, Austin
Hedges & Chris Paddack
LADreamin
Crazy overpay by the Padres, especially since they’re not an ace away from a championship club and Syndergaard spends a lot of time on the DL.
CincyMariner
No he sucks, Syndergaard has only pitched 183 innings once and has pitched less than 155 in his other three seasons, he’s a bum. If that was an offer for Syndergaard, the Mariners would’ve taken that and ran. Might be a good trade value for Segura and Colome. I doubt they’d dump that for a guy who has had real injury issues.
GarryHarris
I’m surprised Sonny Gray didn’t go to SEA.
Nick W
We need to make a deal for Grienke for Elsbury with $ exchanged
billysbballz
Yep I like that move
billysbballz
Add Gray and a few average prospects and have Arizona add Alex Avila.
ddj05
Is this their answer to Chris Sale?
billysbballz
There is no answer for Chris Sale. He’s a superstar.
tigerbreak
This might work out for NYY, but I am not sure it works out for SEA. If Paxton is the same guy he was this year, it may help keep pace with with BOS. Shef has the pedigree, but doesn’t have a third pitch and might end up being a mid-range bullpen piece (not that there isn’t value there but…)
If Dipoto had the courage to do it, he could have a top 3 farm if he blew it all up this year (Diaz, Haniger, Segura, Gonzales, Gamel)
antsmith7
M’s got fleeced as usual. How did we not get Clint Frazier???
Astros2333
Jerry just wanted a #1 prospect. Astros declined to include Whitley and rightfully so. He’s ranked 8th in the top 100 compares to Justus who is #31. I like that Paxton is a lefty and he’d easily be Houston’s #3 starter but he’s not worth Whitley and others.
aussiegiants53
Good move for the Yankees, guess they won’t try for MadBum now, which I’m ok with. Think they’ll still move Gray tho and go after another 4/5 guy
billysbballz
Corbin and Kikuchi. 2 more lefties.
ullnvrknw
Yankees basically got a 18 million pitcher for half price. Can’t beat that. Building talent while managing their payroll. I’m sure Cashman analyzed his injury concerns. He has enough fill ins to cover him until he comes off the dl . They survived a whole season winning 100 games with fill ins. Paxton will be managed to be fully healthy by playoffs
Polar Girl
Trading Sheffield does not reduce the chances that the Yankees can also trade for Kluber since starting pitching is not the highest priority for the Indians like it was for the Mariners or Kluber wouldn’t be traded.
The Indians need an outfielder and a closer as well as offense in general. The Yankees have plenty of closer potential prospects or could flip Gray in a three way trade for an Indians acceptable, proven closer if Yankees prospects aren’t acceptable. Adding Andujar and giving back Frazier in addition to the closer might be enough to land Kluber.
billysbballz
I would rather sign Corbin to that last rotation spot and we know how Cashman works. You can never have enough pitching so sign Kikuchi also. Another nice left handed youngish arm. The Indians are gonna demand a small fortune for Kluber since they feel they maybe battling the Yanks in the playoffs.
nitemare
Agreed Corbin or Happ is still needed. One more starter
Adam6710
Frankly, I’d sign Corbin AND trade for Kluber if you can. Injuries will happen. One more starter is a necessity because they only have 4 at the moment, two are needed if the Yanks really want to make the team better (and move Sabathia to the bullpen).
nitemare
Andujar is the best hitter on team. He stays..
Slevin
“Andujar is the best hitter on the team” he is far from it. Andujar will be dealt if the Yankees decide to do so, and someone on the internet will never make that call.
chino31
Think Gleyber will be the best hitter eventually.
Bob Knob
Better hitter than Andujar … and certainly a better all-around baseball player
Begamin
“Andujar will he dealt if the Yankees decide to do so”
Wow what a profound realization. Hey guys, a player will be dealt if the team they are on wants to deal them wow guys incredible!!!! Yeah the Red Sox will deal Betts if they decide to do so too. Heard the Snell will be dealt if the Rays decide to do so too. Hmmmmmm
seth3120
This one surprised me from Dipoto. Not saying it’s a bad deal it’s just a change of gears. They’ve been chasing major league pitching for a couple of years now and now you give up Paxton for a top pitching prospect? Are they retooling, rebuilding, or does he have another move or two to make that will bring it all together. Maybe he’s going hard after a high end free agent starter idk I guess time will tell. He makes it interesting. I will say I thought the Cardinals fleeced him for O’Neil for Gonzalez and last I heard Gonzalez was a steady rotation piece and O’Neil was getting pretty regular time so I guess it worked for both. Can’t wait to see what happens next
seth3120
Little harder to tank to when your predecessor went for it and didn’t come close. Fans can deal with a rebuild but going for it and sucking then rebuilding is like a decade lol
billysbballz
Maybe they are in on Kikuchi and feel he can replace Paxton. I was hoping the Yanks signed Kikuchi.
seth3120
Love him or hate him Dipoto makes things interesting. Not afraid to make moves that make sense for both clubs and people can say what they want he inherited a dumpster fire he didn’t sign Cano to my knowledge. You don’t have to tank to rebuild the system
qbass187
Hate him? He fleeced Cashman! He got a #1 pitching prospect for a 30+ yr old pitcher with a history of injury and minimal yrs of control left!! If you’re a M’s fan you gotta love this move!!
Slevin
Kick rocks troll!
Bob Knob
Kid Rock’s Troll ?
Who could that be ?
joepanikatthedisco
8 months later: Jerry Dipoto trades Sheffield to Diamondbacks for Alex Avila and Steven Souza Jr.
billysbballz
Yanks will be in on Avila next do Jerry gonna have to ask for someone else.
nitemare
Great move. Not impressed with Sheff. Kluber is a choke artist in playoffs
muskie73
Dom Thompson-Williams and Erik Swanson led Iowa Western Community College to the title in the 2014 Junior College World Series.
billysbballz
Wow look at the volume of comments the Yanks generate. Love it! Yankee U!
mikeyank55
The Mets generate huge volume as well. The only thing is that the content is a mixture of Comedy and Denial and has entertainment value.
qbass187
Lol!! These are kind of stupid deals you make when you haven’t won jack in 10 years and you watch your biggest rivals win multiple titles!! #1 pitching prospect for a 30 yr old pitcher with only 2yrs control and a lengthy injutlry history?!?! Too funny too desperate.
Slevin
wtf is ”injutlry”?
Bob Knob
an ‘insulting injury’ ?
ctguy
“Injutlry”. Too funny, too desperate, trying too hard
guille
One thing I keep reading here: Paxton has never thrown more than 160 innings in the majors. It doesn´t mean he CAN´T do it.
GarryHarris
I guess we’ll have to “wait and see” how good this trade was for each team. To me, it seems like a winner for both sides. On any given game, LHP James Paxton becomes one of the best LH in MLB. LH Justice Sheffield may be a little over hyped but, Erik Swanson may just be a quality starter before Shefield. I suspect that CF Dom Thomson-Williams could be the sleeper prize. I don’t understand why NYY didn’t take a look at him in their OF. Speed, power, LH hitter. Again, we’ll have to “wait and see”.
dust44
I like the trade personally. If Paxton can stay healthy he’s a power lefty in the middle of that rotation. Everyone calling for a ace is crazy. Sevy is an ace. U add Paxton to the 3rd starter spot and possibly Corbin and they r set on the rotation. Would b even better if they can add another righty starter and move CC to a long role or “6th” starter.
SierraM363
Hopefully :Paxton works out as well as Sonny Gray for NY.
justreading
funny though, the Yankees needed innings in the worst way in July and August and Sheffield was mentioned numerous times but the yanks stood steady and kept Sheffield down. at first I thought he was to be used in a 7/31 trade and they didn’t want to take a chance with a couple of mlb starts, but the “he wasn’t ready” stmnts started to get
very sketchy. damn, cc was fatigued and couldn’t pitch in the heat, severino obviously had a problem and needed to take 10-15 days and figure it out – they needed a rookie “phenom” to step in and give them 5-8 starts and get them to October but Justus was no where to be found. why were they afraid to pitch him or were they afraid to show him to other teams against mlb pitching.
I WILL TAKE PAXTON IN A HEARTBEAT!!
and the yanks will still go after pitching – acquiring cc was just to spot pitch all year then gear him up in Sept and October
Adam6710
After a few days to reflect, im a lot more upbeat on this trade. a few reasons. For one, the market was never going to be as good as it is now. No major starter had been dealt or signed, so the price is as low as it’s going to get– as soon as guys like Paxton and Carrasco were moved, and Happ, Corbin, or Keuchel signed somewhere, the price for whoever remained would only go higher.
The last thing Yankee fans would want is for Cashman to be holding his cards waiting for Kluber or Syndeggard, and deals for free agents that won’t break the bank– only to wake up on February 1st with Corbin on the Phillies, Happ on the Braves, Keuchel in beantown, Syndegarrd sporting a Blue Jays uni, and Paxton in Houston.
Given the Yankees need for a minimum of two top starters, now was the time to grab one of the big names. For those who say Sheffield could have gotten more, I’ll respond by saying that…
…a teams prospects are never more highly rated than by the fans– who only hear what their team’s GM is telling them. That Sheffield couldn’t alone headline a trade for Carasco says something.
This was the time to strike. They gave up their best pitching prospect, but got one of the top names on the market and still have enough in the minors and on the ML roster to make a move or two.
I would not be surprised to see them swing another big trade for a starter and still sign a guy like Corbin or Happ (or sign BOTH of the latter).
As for Sheffield himself, I can name on one hand the number of Yankee prospects Cashman has traded away since 1998 that were ever regretted. Who has he let get away in the past decade? Mark Melancon, Ian Kennedy? Both of them took years to develop and only had a few seasons of all-star level play.
I’m not saying Sheffield is guaranteed to be the next Jesus Montero, but the odds he becomes any better than Paxton are slim, and even if he DOES become an equivalent, the Yankees need that pitcher to win NOW.