After last winter’s deep freeze, many in the game are surely wondering when the action will truly get underway this time around. We’re still awaiting a monster free agent pact, but the first blockbuster trade is now in the books. For the Mariners, sending James Paxton out for a package featuring two near-MLB pitchers was designed to open a new contention window in one or two years, GM Jerry Dipoto acknowledged today in an interview on 710 ESPN. (H/t TJ Cotterill of the Tacoma News Tribune, via Twitter.) That largely fits the prior indications that Dipoto has given, perhaps helping set the stage for the club’s remaining offseason work. Certainly, there could be quite a few more deals for the ever-active Dipoto to explore with that goal in mind. As we recently covered in breaking down the club’s offseason situation, the M’s have several other assets that could make sense as trade chips.
Now that the ice has been broken, here’s the latest trade chatter from around the game:
- In an interesting side note following tonight’s major swap, Jon Morosi of MLB Network tweets that the Yankees also sought to discuss Jean Segura in their talks with the Mariners. Segura has now established himself as a quality regular at short and is playing on a reasonably priced contract extension. He’d obviously help the Yanks fill in for the injured Didi Gregorius — which would presumably all but take the club out of the running for free agent star Manny Machado. Obviously, the Segura side of the talks did not progress. Whether the possibility of a deal could be revisited is not clear, but it wouldn’t be terribly surprising to see the clubs circle back.
- While the Astros had interest in Paxton, they weren’t willing to budge on including top pitching prospect Forrest Whitley to get a deal done, Morosi adds on Twitter. It’s rather unsurprising to hear that the Houston organization drew a hard line there, as the 21-year-old has one of the loftiest ceilings of any pre-MLB hurler in baseball and perhaps isn’t far from cracking the majors. Presumably the ’Stros had a different package on offer that was simply deemed inferior to the one that got the deal done. Houston GM Jeff Luhnow will no doubt move on to a series of other potential targets, as rotation improvement remains a clear need.
- Trade talks involving Diamondbacks first baseman Paul Goldschmidt, meanwhile have seemingly yet to get going in earnest. To this point, Ken Rosenthal of The Athletic tweets, the Astros and Cardinals “have had the most meaningful discussions” of any organizations in baseball. But that’s just relative to their peers, not an indication that either club is particularly likely (let alone close) to striking a deal for one of the game’s best and steadiest offensive performers. Of course, it’s also still entirely unclear just what the D-Backs will look to do with such a key player. An extension still does not appear to be out of the question, though there have been no hints that one is in the works. Even in a trade scenario, the team will have to decide whether to try to use Goldschmidt as a vehicle to shed salary (by attaching another contract) or recoup talent.
- As they seek to make some tweaks to an increasingly expensive roster, the Indians are receiving “significant trade interest” in backstop Yan Gomes, Rosenthal tweets. It’ll be interesting to see how the market ends up valuing Gomes, who’s due $7MM in 2019 and then another $2MM in buyouts on successive options (if they aren’t exercised). That seemed a bargain when he was turning in big offensive numbers back in 2013 and 2014, but his multi-year lull left the contract seemingly turned the back end of the contract sour. Now, though, the 31-year-old is coming off of his best showing with the bat in years. In 2018, he slashed .266/.313/.449 and swatted 16 home runs in 435 plate appearances. That said, it’s far from clear whether the bump in productivity was the result of a sustainable improvement. Gomes walked at an anemic 4.8% clip and rode a .336 batting average on balls in play — though he did produce a greater hard-hit rate (38.7%) and average exit velocity (88.9%) than he ever had previously. He also set new personal high-water marks in launch angle and line-drive rate, accomplishing the latter by significantly paring down on the number of balls he put on the ground. Given his strong reputation as a defender, Gomes would seem to be quite an appealing target as a league-average hitter, so teams that find cause to believe in the bat will surely have interest.
astros_fan_84
I’m not surprised that the Astros preferred Whitley to Paxton. If the Astros got that trade wrong, it would haunt the team for years. It’s tough to trade in division.
Sk8rboi
The Mariners have an opening for a starter…Tim Lincecum come on down.
Ejemp2006
Thanks, that made me laugh
justin-turner overdrive
It’s quite a leap downwards from Whitley to Sheffield though, pretty curious who else that incompetent lunatic Dipoto was talking with about Paxton.
jbigz12
Whitley is probably the best pitching prospect in all of baseball. Is Sheffield a step down? Yeah obviously but he’s still one of the best 10 SP prospects in all of baseball. And how many of those 10 we’re realistically available in a trade for Paxton or even available at all? Not many of them. Perhaps the M’s should’ve gotten a stronger secondary piece. IE Acevedo or Loaisiga but they may be much higher on Swanson than others.
HalosHeavenJJ
Dipoto loves college guys with good OBP. That was a focus during his tenure here.
You’re probably right in saying the had a higher grade on Swanson than other teams.
sidewinder11
Pretty sure you’re thinking of the wrong Swanson.
getright11
Swenson, Swanson….
CollinMcSuck
Samsonite…knew it started with an S though!
Chris 87
You sold Petey, to a blind kid?
JrodFunk5
Pretty bird…
adshadbolt
I like goldy going to the cards, a package of Hudson, Williams and another piece could get the deal done goldy only has 1 year left. The cards would then trade Carpenter for a impact reliver, possibly the angels for parker, bedrosian and a low level prospect, then look for a left handed bat on the free agent market to play third, daniel Murphy possibly or go being and get Machado.
Kylesamac
The last thing the Astros want is to look like the Expos trading Randy Johnson to the mariners. Which is very possible given that before his drug suspension over use of adoral for a long drive from Texas to Arizona, was making his way through the system at the same rate as Johnson.
stan lee the manly
Why would they trade Carpenter? In this scenario he shifts to play third base and they have a top ten NL bat, who hits left handed, playing third. He’s better than any option on the market aside from Machado.
thadimus
Have you watched carpenter grow from third? Obviously not. He’s best suited as a dh the rest of his career.
EndinStealth
It would be dumb to trade Carp in that scenario. Plus the initial trade for Goldy would not get it done.
Chris 87
Trade for Goldy, sign Moustakes to play 3rd (left handed bat), Carp goes to 2nd.
Carp 2nd
Bader CF
Goldy 1st
Ozuna RF
Moose 3rd
Molina C
DeJong SS
O’Neill LF
jordantm2021
I do like the idea of trading Carpenter but that’s if they sign Donaldson and trade for Goldy.
Stromalama 2
And then you still have a hole at 3rd and at the top of your lineup. They aren’t trading Carpenter.
Cardinals17
That sound like a good trade for the Cardinals to make for Goldschmidt. However, the Cardinals under John Mozeliak, do this every year! Dangle a hint they are going after an impact All-Star quality player. Gets the fans all excited so they will continue to buy their season tickets. Then Mozeliak won’t close the deal. Season ticket sales scheme will succeed again. Just as it has the last 5 years. Mozeliak will then go back to his “Low Hanging Fruit” routine. The fans in general think Mozeliak is incompetent in his job. He must be pretty smart to do absolutely nothing the past 5 years, yet drawing 3 million fans a year. The fans are the dumb ones. While the owners laugh at them all the way to the bank. Count the Cardinals out on Goldschmidt.
throwinched10
Hope the Mariners hang onto Segura. Mainly because there isn’t a SS in the high minors ready to take over.
The Mariners should look to trade Diaz for a robust package of young big leaguers or high minors prospects. The Braves seem like an ideal trade partner.
1fifth2fifthRed5thBlue5th
Mariners could build a whole new rotation trading Diaz to the Braves. Maybe including Segura get more heading back Seattles way.
If the Mariners were to trade Diaz and Segura to the Braves you could ask for a package involving a top pitcher like Kyle Wright, some MLB ready pitchers like Touissant, Fried, Allard, even Gohara back, and ask for Dansby Swanson to reaplce Segura. Mariners could easily rebuild a strong rotation trading those two to the Braves and getting back 3 or so MLB ready pitchers among other assets going back to Seattle.
braves25
I am assuming the ones talking about this trade of Diaz and Segura to Atl are mostly Mariners fans!
1) Segura is not going to ATL! Especially not to get a better package of prospects from ATL!
2) Yea Diaz could likely bring a haul back…but Wright, Anderson, and Touissant are likely only dealt for an established ace…like Kluber! None of the 3 muchleas 2 of the 3 are going to be traded for a closer!
3) You have to remember team needs and situations! The Braves are not gutting the farm just to gut it! Every trade almost have to be perfect for Atl now and several years in the future! They do not have the ability to sign major international talent for a few years so every draft has to be a success and they have to have talent in the minors to replenish the MLB level! Bullpen pieces are way to volatile to invest that much prospect capital in! Not for a team like the Braves anyway!
4) the Braves and Mariners could line up on some smaller deal if the Mariners were willing to trade Haniger I. A package just for him! Not a huge 10+ person trade like some of you are hoping for!
5) Due to the future prospect situation the Braves will likely send a couple pitching prospects to the Padres for Yates or another relief pitcher…sign Bradley or McCutchen, sign Ramos or Grandal, then part with a big package for a Kluber type ace!
astros_fan_84
The Braves don’t have to get every trade right. No team gets every trade right. The goal should be divisions and rings.
My GM made a few terrible moves, but we won the World Series, so he’s a genius. That’s basically how baseball works.
southi
The Braves GMs have made horrible deals before. Google the Hector Olivera trade or the Mark Teixeira trades. Because of those Atlanta fans cringe anytime multiple highly ranked prospects are sent in a big deal.
Tenn Braves
Throw in Haniger with the big dreams, and we might not laugh too hard.
JKB 2
There is no maybe about it. If you add Segura you will get more back.
citizen
might as well throw in fred freeman and just to close the deal.
Braves arent giving up high mlb ready and on the roster pieces for 1 year of that crap.
Kylesamac
Stop, high minor leaguer, young big leaguers. You’re asking for failure by trad like that. If this is a rebuild that means biting the bullet and getting the best prospects your scouts can find regardless of level. Getting the Josh Haders of the world does not happen by trading for upper minor leaguers who you already know what they are and either over pay or get barely above average talent.
jbigz12
Kyle Wright and Touki Toussaint would hardly be a disappointing start to a package for diaZ. The fact that they’re in AAA is just icing on the cake for the mariners who are attempting a quick “retool.” Just because a guy is 18 doesn’t mean that’s the prospect you always want to target. Is the upside higher? Usually because the error bar is much much higher on a guy who is 4-5 years out. I’d happily take a touissant and Wright as headliners instead.
throwinched10
Dipoto has said that the goal is to compete in 2020-2021. That won’t happen by getting prospects entering A ball in 2019.
The Braves have many players and pitchers that would fit with the Mariners goal:
Newcomb, Wright, Fried, Allard, Gohara, Anderson, Toussaint and Wilson from the pitching side.
Riley and Pache from the position player side.
Diaz would surely be able to bring back 2 of the above.
jbigz12
At the very least. It’d be 2 of the top 3 on that list + more. Diaz is the most valuable reliever available in the game.
throwinched10
If Diaz could net the Mariners Riley + either Newcomb OR Wright, I be happy.
Riley is basically big league ready as a hitter and inherits the 3b job from Seager and Newcomb OR Wright becomes a staple in the rotation with Sheffield and Gonzales.
jbigz12
The mariners should target pitching. They don’t have any coming through the system. Seager’s deal is almost immovable at this point without eating a good sum of cash. I’d give him a chance to bounce back at 3b and target some pitching. I like Seager’s odds of being a competent 3b better than I like the M’s finding 2 quality big league starters in their org to pair with what they have in the rotation now.
throwinched10
I hear what you are saying. My thought is this: Riley will spend one more year in the minors and be in the bigs in 2020. At that point he can see time between DH, LF, and 3b. Seager is a FA after 2020 or 2021 I believe. By that time, Riley would be more than ready to be the everyday 3B AND Seager probably won’t be re-signed.
By 2021, Gilbert and Carlson could also be MLB ready to go with Gonzales, Sheffield, and in this case, Newcomb or Wright.
jbigz12
Seagers Locked In for 3 more years before they can decline his 2022 option. Riley is probably pushing for playing time early next season. If you think he’s the best prospect by far then you take him but I’d prefer the pitchers if I were in their position. I don’t get want to get cute with sliding Riley or Seager over to a position they shouldn’t be playing. That’s my thought but I can certainly see it from that angle as well
steelerbravenation
Let me ask this with AA & DiPoto anything is possible so let me throw this out there
Soroka(is from Calgary which is close to Wash), Pache, Riley, Muller & Ynoa to Seattle for Haniger & Diaz ????
braves25
Soroka, Pache, and Rikey is WAY TOO much to trade away and not get an ace type pitcher! Yes Diaz is one of the best closers in baseball but I dont think those assets should be used for a closer!
jbigz12
Perhaps you didn’t see you also got Haniger.
RunDMC
You’re a Braves fan and proposing that deal? Haniger is incredible, but you’re giving up 2 of the highest-rated position players in our system and the highest-overall rated player (Soroka) whose stock is down, not including Muller and Ynoa — that’s a package I don’t know I’d offer for Kluber let alone anything else.
ckln88
We would need way more than that for basically our two best players and two of baseballs best young players
Waitings The Hardest Part
Padres should inquire about a Wil Myers for Kyle Seager deal, Padres need a 3B in the interim, Mariners could put Myers at 1st or OF. Theres a deal to be had as both are roughly owed the same amount of money the next couple years.
theroyal19
That’s actually not a bad idea
pinstripes17
Myers is at least still somewhat decent, Seager is atrocious.
JKB 2
That is interesting
ckln88
The mariners would have to include at least a little more and/or eat money to even get wil Meyers
DarkSide830
haha, no way Diaz is traded. That wouldn’t be worth it for the Mariners unless they at least get back a Miller-esque return, if not at least one other notable player.
lonewolf
Any chance Atlanta would have interest in Gomes?
GreenCustom24
Looks like Realmuto is a no go since the Marlins want him out of the division if he’s traded, so I don’t see why not.
Waitings The Hardest Part
Not with Grandal and Ramos still available on the open market. Given the abundance of pitching its not out of the question for Atlanta to heavily invest in Grandal or Ramos financially.
But, Carson Kelly could be available in a trade Salvador Perez could be a cheaper option compared to Realmuto and Royals are rebuilding. Could inquire about one of the Orioles young catchers Wynn or Sisco and take a chance on them. Chance Cisco.
bighiggy
What would a Kelly to Padres trade look like? Who do you think is a reasonable return and who could the cards use? I’m all for Kelly actually playing somewhere instead of wasting away
braves25
Kelly to the Padres is a no go! The Padres already have catchers!
Palmerpark
Forrest is not the kind of young Pitcher you trade, dominated AZFL and you never see that in that league… number 1 in not to distant future of Astros Staff.
Waitings The Hardest Part
Diamond backs should sell.
Padres should inquire about a deal involving Zach Greinke and Wil Myers. Padres are said to be looking for an ace and moving Myers clears money to take on Greinke and clears up some of the log jam issue. More pieces would be involved esp since the Padres would be taking on an addition $30 ish mill in the deal. But the headliners line up well. Myers can be put at 1st if/when they trade Goldschmidt.
lowtalker1
I loved when the quinten broke greinkes collar bone in San Diego
Oh yeah
No San Diego fan wants that bum on the team
Waitings The Hardest Part
People probably said the same thing about Matt Kemp who got into it with the quinten about breaking Greinke’s collarbone. Im sure people cheered when he made plays or hit home runs for the Padres.
joepanikatthedisco
Everyone including Greinke knew that the quinten crowded the plate (he once led the league in HBP) so it was hardly Greinke’s fault… no need for the quinten to throw a punch!
Palmerpark
Yankees looking for fill in for Didi I would hope Manny out of pic but more than likely he’s not unfortunately…. don’t want that goof ball wearing the uni. Go play for the Mets don’t care if you hit 40.
jbigz12
Perhaps Seattle had some issue with dealing pax in division if they weren’t blown away. With Verlander and Cole set to be FA’s after this year
they may like their chances v the stros in 2020 without Paxton. The astros very likely could have none of cole Verlander Morton or Keuchel by then. I
GreenCustom24
Just an idea… A jumping off point, if you will. Could be tweaked some.
Atlanta gets Jean Segura, Edwin Diaz and Mitch Haniger.
Seattle gets Julio Teheran, Dansby Swanson, Ian Anderson, Kyle Wright, Luiz Gohara, Drew Waters, Austin Riley, Travis Demeritte and Patrick Weigel,
As a Braves fan it’d hurt like hell… But gotta give to get.
Braves lock up SS, RF and CL for the next 4-5 years.
Seattle gets a veteran starter for 1-3 years, an immediate Segura replacement with tons of potential, and gains tons of potential in the farm. Wright, Anderson and Gohara could fight for 2019 rotation slots.
Waitings The Hardest Part
If the Mariners are dealing all 3 to the Braves itll start with Soroka guaranteed. Seattle doesnt have much use for Teheran and his 2 years, which arent cheap and hes trending the wrong direction. If the Mariners are trading all 3 theyre leaning towards quick rebuild/retool in which case 4+ years of service time would be the minimum. They established that trading Zunino for Mallex Smith.
Soroka
Wright
2 of Fried, Touissant, Newcomb, Gohara, Allard
1 0f Christian Pache or Austin Riley
Dansby Swanson
William Contreras
If Seattle is dealing its 3 best assets to 1 team its gonna need to walk away with SP, C, SS, 3B/OF otherwise they can address those needs to a lesser extent trading them individually elsewhere.
braves25
The Braves are not trading Swanson to get Segura! If Swanson is traded Canargo would slide to ss not bring another ss back! Swanson would be part of a trade for a SP!
Also I only see the Braves moving any or those pieces you talk about if it is for an Ace! Not a closer! Especially Wright or Anderson! Neither of those guys are being traded for Diaz! Kluber yes…Diaz no!
justin-turner overdrive
Remove like 10 players, no trades that big happen anymore – and get off mlb the show, its not reality AT ALL.
steelerbravenation
I have been chirping for the Braves to go for Cirvelli since the trade deadline but after reading this I think they should focus their attention on Gomes. He comes with a cheaper & longer contract right into the time frame of Contreras stepping in. Would Allard alone be enough to get him? I know Cleveland may not necessarily be looking for pitching so I wonder who exactly would interest them.
Netflix&RichHill
Cervelli isn’t gonna be on the move. The pirates traded Austin meadows away for Chris archer. That’s a clear indication of a team in win-now mode. They are bringing Kang back and frazier will take over for Harrison. They have other rotation/bullpen pieces in place, and they’ll probably pick up a jose Iglesias type if they think newman or kramer aren’t ready to fill in at SS.
Also, the braves have perhaps the most underrated catcher in baseball in tyler flowers. The braves are set at C.
jbigz12
The braves certainly aren’t set at catcher. Flowers is not underrated. He’s a nice platoon catcher and they had a very nice system going with Suzuki but you cannot be underrated when you’re a part time catcher. They are definitely not set there. Flowers will likely take over the lions share of the duties but they certainly need someone to pair him with
steelerbravenation
Damn you really had me thinking you knew what you were talking about until you said the Braves are set at catcher. That ruined it. Also a team like Pitt doesn’t have the financial means to buy major pieces in FA do they have to get creative to sell high whenever possible. Pirates have a catcher ready to step in & Cirvelli has only 1 more year on his contract. But doesn’t matter I have moved on to Gomes I would rather them get him.
JKB 2
Tyler Flowers is not underrated. He stinks!
baseball1600
Segura to the giants to play second base. Make it happen Farhan…
jbigz12
The giants taking on more payroll in their infield? I hate to tell you but segura isn’t the piece that is making that team good again.
Slevin
Don’t waste your time with this guy, because he actually thinks the Giants are gonna compete for a playoff spot.
Bruin1012
Edwin Diaz is the most valuable piece left for the Mariners if they traded him they could expect a similar return to what the Padres got for Kimbrel from the Red Sox.
southi
Without a doubt Haniger is the most valuable player on the Mariners. Diaz had a fantastic season in 2018, but closers are historically volatile and it is EXTREMELY doubtful that a team would be willing to pay more for Diaz than they would for Haniger.
Bruin1012
Yup forgot about Haniger probably pretty close. You can look at a closers stuff and Diaz has stuff in spades that’s why I think teams would give a similar return as what the Padres got for Kimbrel.
antsmith7
I was hoping M’s would get Clint Frazier or Kyle Tucker. That’s a let down.
Polish Hammer
Really? Sheffield was a nice return.
bighiggy
What return do you think would be fair for Arizona for goldy and Greinke and his whole contract to the cardinals?
What
Weaver and a couple mid level prospects.
cboyer
Very unlikely Cards get off that easy. Although I wouldn’t be shocked to see them end up with these guys
bighiggy
With knowing carps defense at third is not good, I’d still rather have him at third and goldy at first then carp at first and gyorko at third. Greinke could really help the cards too. Would like to see Fowler shopped for another bad contract, like a Cobb or king felix, eventhough both are probably unattainable for a Fowler swap. I cant remember, can carp play right field?
justin-turner overdrive
Carp at 2nd works too, he’s way better than Wong, who’s super overrated. Package Wong and Fowler together and something decent might be coming back.
jbigz12
Matt Carpenter is a horrific defensive 2B. You could give yadier Molina a glove and tell him to play 2B too but that doesn’t mean he belongs out there.
cards81
Wong Overrated? He is one of the best defensive second basemen in the league…on what scale are you rating him?
cards81
Getting off that easy? if the cardinals are taking on all of Greinke’s contract that is not getting off easy?
mrnatewalter
Carpenter isn’t *terrible* at third. He’s not great, but he’s not going to be a massive liability..
He saved 6 runs, but had a UZR of -2.5. That’s a middle of the road defender (18th out of 29 3B with 500 innings last year).
I don’t get the notion that the Cardinals ABSOLUTELY cannot play Carpenter at third. His bat more than makes up for the slight blips he’ll have on defense.
cards81
I totally agree….Carp isn’t that bad at third…I think most people just listen to people who don’t even watch the Cardinals
jordantm2021
I do watch the Cardinals and it not that he is bad at third but he can’t throw to first all that well either and he has battled with injury the last two year y put him back there to keep him injured.
brownbomber
Cards need to sell high on carpenter. He’s definitely not a 3rd baseman
Polish Hammer
Why is Cleveland rumored to move Gomes? Are they really going to turn the catcher job over to Perez and a minor leaguer? Oh boy….
sufferforsnakes
Hehehehe, maybe they’ll package Perez and Bauer in a trade?
davengmusic
Astros get Goldschmidt, Greinke and $45M
Dbacks get Kyle Tucker, Josh James, Cionel Perez, JB Bukauskas and Derek Fisher.
notorious623
Haha what? Absolutely not. That’s a terrible trade for the Astros
davengmusic
Your proposal?
mrnatewalter
Uhhh, it definitely wouldn’t command a top 10 prospect to take on over 90M in salary.
This is something Dave Stewart would do, not Jeff Luhnow.
davengmusic
The Astros would be getting $45M to help with Greinke’s $35M/yr salary for the next three years. That’s not nothing. Plus you’re getting two superstars. If the Astros took on all of the salary, then you pull back Josh James, but you’re not getting both of those guys without Kyle Tucker.
Also, the $45M is important, as it allows Houston to still go after a catcher (Ramos) and possibly resign Morton to a one-year.
Again, what are you offering up for Goldy/Greinke?
mrnatewalter
Yordan Alvarez, Garrett Stubbs, and Rogelio Armenteros.
The Astros are still on the hook for almost 20M a year of a pitcher during his age 35, 36, and 37 seasons. And this is a guy whose velocity is almost under 90 on his fastball.
Greinke is very good. But that contract is gonna be tough to move, and teams aren’t going to give up a premium for it, even if it’s discounted.
davengmusic
That seems light if AZ is sending $45M over, but I love that for the Astros.
Then again, it only took Justus Sheffield to pry away James Paxton from Seattle.
mrnatewalter
Paying down 45M still makes Greinke rather expensive. And you’re paying him a lot of money during his aging years. That velocity is decreasing more and more and putting him in the AL isn’t going to do him any favors.
Goldschmidt only being a one-year rental also hurts.
I’m not sure what people think they can get. But if it’s what you’re suggesting, then D’Backs fans will be thoroughly disappointed.
DarkSide830
Greinke is not going anywhere.
AstrosWS20
That’s a no for me bro. Also, I think $45M is a lot for an owner to sign off on, especially this circumstance. I could see $30M though. Unfortunately I do think the Astros have to give up Tucker in this scenario or at least Yordan and Bukauskas or Josh James. My offer would be
Astros get: Goldy and Greinke + $30MM
DBacks get: Yordan Alvarez, Josh James, Framber Valdez, Tyler Ivey and maybe someone in low A not in the top 30 prospects.
It’s a very hefty price and would hurt our depth immensely, and I think the DBacks would want a bit more and that’s why I don’t think this deal happens.
Thoughts DBack fans?
davengmusic
I think any trade that nets one or both of Goldy/Greinke without giving up Tucker or Whitley has to be a win for the Astros, even if it costs them James and/or Alvarez. I just don’t know how desperate AZ is to get out from underneath Greinke’s contract.
Depends on if Luhnow is OK with starting the season with McHugh/James/Valdez as the 3-5 rotation guys, or if he tries to throw money at Morton and Britton and do something with AZ.
Billy 3
3b Austin Riley & SP Kyle Wright to the Mariners for OF Mitch Haniger & RP Alex Colome ?
Wahoo What a Finish!
Not exactly sure why the Indians would look to move Gomes… while Roberto Perez is a suitable defensive replacement for Gomes he is a far cry offensively from his production. This would make more sense if the Indians still had Mejia in their org but that is not the case.
PhilliesFan012
The only way I see them trading Gomes is if they get a major league ready catcher back, maybe package Kipnis and Gomes to San Diego? Get Hedges back as part of it? Just spitballing
Polish Hammer
A major league catcher that is not a starter is easy and cheap to find, so no need trading Gomes for it. The huge mistake in all of this was when they decided to extend Perez with that ridiculous extension which guaranteed they’d be stuck with him as he’s way overpriced for his role and abilities.
GrandpaBaseball
Hmmm, Mike Trout for the Braves starting 8 plus their top 5 minor leaguers, yup, that seems fair ……lots of laughs. Jedi wants to win now and only has roster talent to trade as he has striped his minor leaguers to the bare bone.
dust44
I still c the Phillies out bidding the Yankees for Machado. Not sold at all on Machado to the Yanks. I believe they do go after Harper instead. Seems like they believe in Andujar and I tend to agree with them. May not ever win a gold glove at third but more then hits enough to make up for it.
DarkSide830
did you just use “c” for “see?”
lac4630
With Scott Boras as his agent, Machado is going to the highest bidder. Period.
mooshimanx
Except Scott Boras isn’t Machado’s agent.
DiggerTim
Goldy and Grienke (taking on all the salary commitments) to the Astros for Bukauskas, Fisher, Martin, White, Armenteros
OrangeCrushCity
That deal might work if Arizona ate some of the salary. I don’t see the Astros giving up Bukauskes otherwise.