The Toronto Blue Jays have not had any serious trade discussions regarding staff ace Marcus Stroman, per the MLB Network’s Jon Morosi (via Twitter). That does not mean, however, that teams haven’t asked. The Reds, in particular, are one team with noted interest in the Jays’ right-hander. This shouldn’t surprise anyone, as the Reds have a well-documented mandate to add pitching this winter. For the Jays, to move Stroman now would definitely be selling low. Coming off back-to-back 200-inning efforts in 2016 and 2017, Stroman labored through only 102 1/3 innings in 2018, with 6.8 K/9, 3.2 BB/9 and a 5.54 ERA in nineteen starts. He twice went on the disabled list, including a six-week stint for shoulder fatigue in May. As the winter action continues to wind up, keep warm with some quick hits from around the league…
- Yesterday’s report that the Diamondbacks were “aggressively shopping” ace Zack Greinke speaks to the current challenge facing Arizona GM Mike Hazen. The greater existential hurdle that Hazen needs to clear this winter is the question of whether to trade star first baseman Paul Goldschmidt. The Athletic’s Zach Buchanan portends Hazen’s future through the eyes of two men who have been there before: Pirates GM Neal Huntington and Royals GM Dayton Moore, each of whom faced a similar crisis point for their respective franchises. What makes the Diamondbacks situation unique, of course, is both the quality of their star and the quality of their competition. With current juggernaut Los Angeles Dodgers firmly atop the division, and the best farm system in baseball lurking in San Diego, the Diamondbacks have a tough row to hoe no matter which route they take. The consensus “smart baseball move” is to trade him, but there’s more than just baseball to consider in trading a club icon as locally popular as Goldschmidt. No doubt Hazen is staring down the decision that will define his tenure in Arizona.
- This Tuesday, November 20th is the deadline for teams to set their 40-man rosters ahead of the Rule 5 draft in December. That doesn’t give new Orioles GM Mike Elias a ton of time to acclimate himself to the Orioles’ farm system. While other teams are finalizing the decisions they’ve had months to ponder, Elias will have to hit the ground running with deadline decisions to clean up his 40-man roster. It’s likely the Orioles will make at least one selection in December’s upcoming draft – which requires opening up a spot on the currently-full 40-man roster. Roch Kubatko of MASNsports.com takes a look at some of the players that could be on the chopping block. Veteran backstop Caleb Joseph is one DFA candidate, as is injury-prone catcher Andrew Susac. It should be noted, Elias has until November 30th to tender contracts to arbitration-eligible players, giving Elias some extra time to decide on a player like shortstop Tim Beckham. The urgency before Tuesday is in protecting anyone likely to be poached by another organization, such as right-hander Dillon Tate, catcher Martin Cervenka or left-handed pitcher Luis Gonzalez. Tate is the likeliest of the bunch to be protected, as the Orioles probably won’t want to risk losing the 24-year-old just a few months after acquiring him from the Yankees in the Zach Britton trade.
- Seattle team chairman and CEO John Stanton sent an email to Mariners’ employees on Friday regarding the recent allegations brought against the team by former employee Dr. Lorena Martin, per the Athletic’s Ken Rosenthal. In the letter, Stanton calls the allegations “disturbing” and “totally unexpected,” while also claiming progress “in reshaping our organization’s culture.” Nevertheless, an internal investigation conducted by the team’s human resources and legal departments determined Martin’s allegations to be unfounded. The MLB is conducting their own investigation into the matter, which is still pending.
Of course it’s unfounded. It was obviously sour grapes by Martin.
“I’ve investigated myself and find myself innocent.”
No, what makes them innocent is that they haven’t been proven guilty.
Who else is supposed to investigate, by the way? She never filed a Police complaint for harassment, go to the feds over discrimination at the workplace, or even sued for wrongful termination…because, you know, then she’d have to testify, in Court. And if you lie under oath, you face perjury charges.
As the article says, MLB is investigating.
And if she sued, most would assume she was just doing it for the money.
Not because she asked them to. The MLB is doing it in spite of her desire to skip that part, and go straight to the angry mob.
depending on your state, making false accusations, those that lead to some sort of punishment can also lead one into trouble with the law not to mention civil suits even when not under oath.
Who was supposed to investigate? How’s about anyone but the people accused of wrongdoing?
Innocent in the eyes of the law is one thing, but jumping to the conclusion it’s just ‘sour grapes’ while the credible investigation is ongoing is just asinine.
Well baseballpun what evidence is there to support the allegation. Innocent until proven guilty
You’re right. Don’t put anyone in jail. As this isn’t a legal matter, “innocent until proven guilty” doesn’t apply. Just like if you or I were banned from this site it wouldn’t be a 1st amendment violation.
You really think the presumption of innocence should just be a legal matter? Wow, I’d hate to live in the world you think you live in.
Maybe before casting judgement you should wait a little more before an actual investigation or something happens. What do you expect the CEO to say? That every person of power in the organization actually did say those things? And if it did actually happen, your willingness to quickly say it’s not true is not a good look. I don’t see how it was “obviously sour grapes”.
It’s not everyone that was accused of saying bad stuff it was three guys. Man in charge van indeed come out looking great by sacrificing three people. It just happened at Dartmouth.
Calm down there little fella.
There are so many teams inquiring on Goldy, it would be foolish not to trade him. Indecisive owners & FO’s are detriments to an organization.
What would it take for the Cards to get Greinke and Goldy?
It would depend on how much of Grienke’s contract they’d absorb because that seems like the primary reason for Arizona to move him
Continuing my comment, I imagine the Diamondbacks would want to deal them separately so that they could get top value for Goldschmidt
Greinke will not approve a trade to the Cards I’d say.
I would think a lot more than you’d want to give up. Like maybe Vince Coleman and Willie McGee both.
Bah, just speed guys? Throw in Jack Clark and Andujar
I’m of the opinion that Greinke isn’t needed and obtaining Goldy pushes Carpenter back to 3rd, where our defense would suffer on the left side.
Now, i’d be all in on acquiring both Goldy & Lamb and trading Carpenter.
All that said, any deal for Greinke & Goldy will be young near ML ready pitching. Putting both of those players in a package will actually lower a return for Arizona.
Lambs inconsistent. Acquiring Goldy and Escobar (though he just extended, I’m not 100% how those rules go) would make more sense for the cardinals. Probably would need to give up Coleman, Poncedeleon, Hicks, and throw ins.
Agreed but that ain’t happening as far as Carp…
Serious question: why does it seem like all Cardinals fans hate Carpenter?
Greinke and Goldy will require Fowler, Reyes, Hicks and low tier prospect or 2. That’s my uneducated guess
It would take Grienke to waive his NTC to begin with.
I think if he knows he’s not going to win there he’ll approve a trade. If that’s to the Cardinals I don’t know but if it’s a team he wants to go to, he’s gone.
Cardinals have not even made the playoffs since 2015 so not competing in Az sounds better to Greinke than non competing in St. Louis.
It’s actually a Joke to hear the Cardinals names mentioned along side star quality players. A joke to hear the Cardinals named mentioned with All-Star quality players. …………Look at the Cardinals History since 2011 World Series win and Chris Carpenter retires with injuries. Pujols leaves. He was replaced by Beltran for 2 years. Lance Bergman leaves…Jim Edmonds is traded…Jon Jay is traded after having a career lead off batting average of over
.300. Holiday wasn’t resigned. The Cardinals and John Mozeliak have not replaced star quality players who leave with other star quality players. John Mozeliak says the Cardinals are going to acquire star quality players every year. Every year the Cardinals will get in a bidding war for the top free agents only to come in second just to make a big showing to fans. Then the Cardinals will do what they actually intended to do in the first place…..Acquire big name washed up free agents who will stay on the DL. That way insurance pays that players salary. Then they will hire more Low Hanging Fruit. The Cardinals Fans have got John Mozeliak’s phoney system memorized to a tee. The Cardinals aren’t going to do anything other than what they’ve done since the end of 2012.
Absorb all of the money going to STL and AZ would get a pretty solid haul. Problem is that STL doesn’t have a lot of high ends prospects that AZ would want. They likely start off by asking for Bader or Oneill plus prospects. STL fans would likely balk at that but it’s fair for Goldy/Greinke/and taking on the contract.
The market for Goldschmidt was never in doubt. The only question is whether the D’backs are in full teardown mode, or not. Seems they are, and if they are, their next competitive window is years away, so it makes no sense to not flip him for prospects.
So are rash decisions made by owners & management. The off-season just started. They have time to make a good decision. This is probably more of a reflection on our lack of patience to see something happen.
Heres something I dont get guys like Sonny Gray, Marcus Stroman and Chris Archer have worse stats than Julio Teheran but they get more trade buzz and it sounds like otger teams place a higher value on those guys and those guys have all been linked to the Braves over the past couple of years but Julio has better stats.
Now I think the Braves should trade Julio but I think he deserves more credit than he gets and should have more value than what is being perceived.
because Teheran helps the Braves win
Here is something that Braves fans need to explain, why do ya’ll want to trade Teheran? Not that hes horrible or anything but I have seen some illogical trade proposals involving him and it’s getting borderline annoying
I totally agree. To many Braves fans are way too eager to trade Teheran. As though the spot in the rotation alone is enough reward to trade him.
He doesn’t put up sexy numbers but he is one of the most durable pitchers in baseball. Between that and his production he is an outstanding no.4 or 5.
I think my fellow Braves fans are a little to enamored by our pitching prospects. Maybe they see a slew of aces and no.2 pitchers. You have to make them prove it. We haven’t found a Maddux, Glavine, Smoltz yet and even in that rotation I would have loved to have Teheran anchoring the back of it.
I don’t necessarily want to trade Julio. I would much rather have him on his contract than Guassman on his but the fact of the matter is Julio can fill a need by himself.
I really don’t care which one of the SP in the rotation gets moved to either fill RF or C. But established aces are available and the Braves need one to lead the rotation. I just think between his contract, the other rotation options and his durability makes him the likeliest to be moved.
I mean think about it is there a better matchup on a trade out there than Teheran to the Brewers for Domingo Santana.
It fills a need for each team.
Teheran is over payment for Santana, who is a 4th or 5th outfielder for the Brewers. Braves would need something additional to make that a fair trade.
Here’s why, Folty, Gausman, Newcomb, Touki, Kyle Wright, Allard, Gohara, Weigel…. And then you face Ian Anderson, meuller, Wentz
Point being you can’t start them all and Julio has Value and you can probably find someone out of all that talent to put up similar numbers.
His numbers are replaceable but his durability is not. On that list, Gohora, Allard and Fried (not on your list) had significant injuries. Teheran has not. That’s an important part of a value of a pitcher.
Additionally, from what we can see, Allard, Tousant and Fried have not out pitched Teheran.
Wiegel? He isn’t even a top 15 prospect in our own system.
Wentz is in Single A so he isn’t pushing anyone out anytime soon.
Wentz isn’t even top 10 in our system.
These pitchers have not yet proven themselves deserving of Teheran’s spot in the rotation.
I am not against a Teheran trade. If a good trade comes around and it involves Teheran, I get it. But Domingo Santana (for example) as a 1 for 1 trade is not it. He has had one good season and is plagued by injuries.
Teheran is worth more than the roster spot he takes.
I’m not opposed to keeping teheran but if we trade him but I think he deserves to go for more than just a throwaway trade to she’d sajary
All trade propesals in the MLBTR blogs are annoying. They never happen. They are just fiction and a waste of space.
Because those guys all play in the AL east, a tougher environment.
I’d much rather have Stroman’s 5.54 ERA. I’m sure he’s ace material in the NL East…. /s
Because Teheran’s a fly ball pitcher whos numbers predictably tanked when they moved to a smaller park.
If you’re a team that doesn’t play In a pitcher friendly environment, that’s a massive red flag, so it’s really not shocking there’s a limited market for him.
#1 pitching in the AL is way harder than the NL
#2 Pitching in the AL East is by far the hardest division not only because of the teams you face but because the parks are all hitters parks.
The problem with Teheran is his inconsistency is scary. when he’s on, he’s really good. when he’s off, he’s absolutely horrible. If he was more consistently in the middle of those 2 he’d probably get more trade interest
Now I like big concept words at least as much as the next person, but “existential hurdle”? This implies if Hazen doesn’t “clear” that hurdle, he will no longer exist. Just guessing but the consequences aren’t likely to be quite so dire.
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Grienke and his 104 million (34.5,35,35) over next 3 years plus Alex Avila for Elsbury 47 million (23.5×2) Austin Romine, Chance Adams, Albert Abreu, and Thairo Estrada.
That is as fair a deal and probably too generous from Yanks standpoint with the prospects going the other way. Arizona saves 57 million dollars to use to sign Goldy. Of course Grienke and Elsbury have to waive no trade. Elsbury resides in Arizona and should get playing time if he’s not on the DL. If he is then Arizona collects money from Insurance which is huge for Arizona as well. Grienke is a big risk at 35yo and a diminished fastball in the AL East but worth the gamble based on the Yanks needs and his ability to mix in 4 pitches. He could either lead the staff or settle back into. Mid rotation arm!
Yankees should stay as far away as possible from Grienke. I don’t think he’ll handle NY.
But Goldschmidt in the other hand, is love the Yankees to trade for him. I don’t think voit will be what people think he’s gonna be.
Trivia question..who did Grienke pitch for before Arizona? Which team did he have his best years with? The answer to both questions is Los Angeles Dodgers. He would be fine in NY. These persistent rumors are just silly that Grienke can’t handle big market areas.
Completely different media. Until you’ve lived in both places, you’ll never know.
It’s not a silly rumor the guy suffers from anxiety and please don’t compare the LA sports market to the NY sports market. I mean come on the Dodgers didn’t even sell out playoff games this year. Not to say there are no passionate fans I am sure there are but NY is a totally different beast to play sports in. Only comparable market to me is NE/Boston. It’s not about the population of ppl it’s bout the population of the passionate fans.
Philadelphia
They are both big, aggressive markets. Do you have any real reason to believe Grienke won’t do well in NY? And have YOU lived and I experienced both locations to say there is such a difference?
Additionally, you don’t have to live in either City to know what both media’s are like. Witnessing them are both readily available.
Have you been to a Dodgers game? Because I have. Dodgers fans will slit your throat if you wear the wrong jersey. You really have no experience with Dodger fans. Do you have any with Yankee fans?
Yes and YES
Yes actually I have. I am from North Jersey bout 20 mins from Yankee stadium with no traffic and I lived 3 years in Glendale so yes I have the experience of living in both places. I also lived in San Fran, Greensboro NC & VA right outside DC & Baltimore
There is no sports media coverage like NY’s
Please every stadium has their fake tough guys who have a little to much to drink and wanna pop off at the mouth to guys they think will back down. Please your sports media capital of the world couldn’t support an NFL team in the 2nd biggest market in the country are you kidding me.
Been on close to 15 Brave Dodger games in LA and wore a jersey to every single one of them and never even had a sideways glance in my direction. You Ben watching to much Blood in Blood Out or Straight Outta Compton or something. What cause the horrible situation with the Giants fan ? Please that was a isolated incident. Are there fights yes but that is anywhere alcohol and sports meet.
Worse place I been to was hands down Philly that was down right dangerous those fans are nuts.
You act like going to watch the Dodgers is like going to watch soccer in England please punks get messed with anywhere you go.
I’ve been to hundreds of Dodger games and never seen any Dodger fan be hostile to a visiting team fan, even when they are rude (which is uncommon but I have seen it). But the idea that LA is somehow a “laid back” sports market and the fans care less than in other big cities is a total myth.
Hundreads of games? Then you aren’t sitting in the outfield bleacher seats because the fans can be vicious there and I say this as a Dodger fan. I was with people who were wearing t-shirts featuring the opposing team and we had food thrown at us. When I glared right at the person who did it, his response was, “You’re in our house now.”
I was really ashamed to be a Dodger plan that day.
I’ve never counted, but yeah, probably hundreds. I’ve owned a share of season ticket for quite a few years, not in the pavilions, but not on field level either.
Who would do the catching for the Yankees? Grienke has NY in his NTC.
Am I the only Giants fan who wouldn’t mind us giving up some assets for Stroman? He’s my favorite non-giants player and I really think he’d do well with a good defensive infield (crawford, panik, belt) but I don’t know how much the jays would be asking for and I’m not sure that’s the approach the Giants are going to take.
The only two SF prospects im really high on after watching them in the Minors are heliot ramos and (although no longer a prospect) Andrew suarez. (Haven’t seen enough of Bart to judge him) We don’t have room for Aramis Garcia, Chris Shaw, even Ray Black could be expendable. Those 3 packaged for Stroman and a reliever could work if the giants want to contend.
I doubt stroman gets moved yet, he is valuable to the Jays and doesn’t hold the current value we think he has. A good few months to start the season will change that and a deadline trade seems better suited to our needs
We need OF prospects so Ramos would be on the list.
We also need SP prospects but it doesn’t look like you have anything other then projected 3s and 4s.
Bart although a very good prospect would not fit in a stroman trade, unless we used him to flip for SP
We need arms and Stroman has been one of the best for us. Although touted as a #1 by our media is at best a #2. But even a #2 brings back a decent package
Yeah, if a deal for Stroman would be forced to include Ramos, I doubt the Giants would go for it. Shaw needs to be moved because of how his entire mold doesn’t fit the Giants. Lefty power firstbaseman turned into an average left fielder. Would be great in the AL east, which is why I included him in the Stroman trade. I just don’t think the Giants would get rid of Ramos for Stroman. (although I personally think Stroman would thrive in SF)
Why would the Giants trade for Stroman when they could just sign MadBum to an extension ?
Those 3 would not get a quality player. That is the problem for the Giants outside of Ramos and Bart they have not much in prospects. giants are going to need to spend to bring in a player.
Have you seen them play? Garcia was great in September last year, and Shaw has always been a fairly high ranked prospect. Ray Black flashed closer potential last year. Stroman only has a few years left before FA, and has been inconsistent both on the field and health-wise. I think he has a chance to do well in SF, but nothing is a given and Stroman hasn’t proven that he would demand top tier prospects.
“Stroman hasn’t proven that he would demand top tier prospects.”
Which is why he likely won’t be moved this offseason
Yeah, I know it was just a hypothetical I don’t know what the jays are planning to do as I don’t follow them closely.
EXACTLY!
Shaw has no range in the OF so he is a 1B. He has power but strikes out a lot and draws very few walks. He needs to improve on defense and patience at the plate to be considered a prospect. Garcia improved his defense but once again the bat is nothing special he ranks as a future back up catcher. Black is 28 and is basically a 1 pitch reliever. he is not a future closer. So you want to trade spare pieces for a starting pitcher that around 20 teams will out bid the giants with better prospects.
Giants fans, are you guys open to a rebuild at all? I know your owner is allergic to the word but with your anemic farm system, what do you believe is your best hope? You went for it one more time this year and it all fell apart. Longoria was a terrible idea.
Everyone always looks at their roster and looks at the talent and believes they should try and contend. But it’s while you still have talent that you want to contend. It will speed up a rebuild because teams will trade better talent to get those players that are still valuable.
I’m opposed to tanking. It works some of the time, most of the time it just leaves your organization into a huge hole of not being competitive. Take the Padres, for example. How long have they been tanking? Since 2011 basically? There truly isn’t a market for Belt, Crawford, Posey etc. The Giants can’t trade them away for nothing, they might as well surround them with younger guys instead of trading them and gutting the ML roster. The three I mentioned above are all at the very least serviceable, and Crawford is still a top 3 defensive player in the game. As long as they keep their OF young and fresh, and stack their rotation, they are WC threats because as far as I know, Bum-Cueto-Drod-Stratton-Suarez has the potential to be a great rotation.
The Braves, Cubs and Astros have all rebuilt and are experiencing success. The Padres have not been rebuilding since 2011. In 2015 they decided to go for it by trading away all their assets and it blew up in their faces. You may remember they aquired Justin Upton and Craig Kimbrel in a trade with the Braves. They then decided to blow it all up and start over. They have been rebuilding since the end of 2015.
Belt does have value. He is just one season removed from having an OPS well over 800. He might be a candidate to trade in July. Let him rebuild some of the lost value but even now he would still have some appeal.
Buster Posey is still one of the best game callers in the game so his bat is more tolerable. Not mention he still put up desent numbers.
Cueto is going to be 33. Madbum needs to demonstrate his best years aren’t behind him.
Look, the point is, if you wait to see if they still have it and you’re wrong. If you are right, how much longer can your older players persist in carrying the Giants to the playoffs? And not to mention, is making a wild card really the goal? You sure you wouldn’t trade a difficult chance at a WD to shorten a rebuild by a couple years?
Adrian Gonzalez was traded at the 2010 winter meetings. Padres were rebuilding from 2011 – 2014 off-season. Then blew it up not even a year later. So outside, the first few months of the 2015 season, the Padres HAVE been re-building since 2011..
What’s the point of leaving the group together for just a wild card game? I could see if the division was up for grabs, but it’s not.
What I’m saying is that the Giants would most likely be forced to sell-low on most of their players. The Giants were at least within 5 games of the division all the way until mid-August. This was with a pitching core of Bum, D-Rod, Suarez, Stratton, Holland. This was with an offense led by the likes of Belt. Hanson, Gorkys, and Crawford. They somehow managed a decent run before losing almost all of the games in the 2nd half of August and all of September due to all their players sitting out to injury or getting traded. I personally think the NL west will be weaker this year, as AZ will most likely trade Goldy, COL still has a terrible and old bullpen. The Giants have an opening to make a few moves and give it one last hurrah, not being led by the usual Posey, Crawford, etc, but using their younger core to be mixed into the older core as they did in May-August before everyone got injured or was traded away. They played .500 ball around that period, and with a few improvements as a fan I have faith. Others can have other beliefs, and I’m fine with it, but this is how I personally feel about my team and why I’m against tanking. Feel free to roast me and educate me on why I’m wrong, but it’s just a natural faith I have for my team simply by being a fan of them.
I remember in 2016 when the Tigers had a fluky good season. Management and ownership brought the same team back in 2017 and it was a disaster. Something similar will happen to the Giants if they continue to run things back and not change. The real reason the Giants faded in August was due to lack of depth, not bad luck or anything.
Of course a team with the Giants resources doesn’t have to re-build like the Astros or Braves. I know it’s tough to shallow for them, but they really need to follow the Dodgers blueprint since their new ownership took over. Spend a lot so you can reform the farm system by getting young players while taking on bad contract. I’m not even sure something like that can be done with a new CBA since then Farhan should know how to execute it. They don’t just need small improvements, they need something major like that.
Wow. WC threats. How exciting. Without a rebuild your not going to be better than a .500 team for years. Bur hey you can say you not taking!
In the words of Al Capone..You have Nuttin!
Trading Goldschmidt would be incredibly smart. Get as much of a return as you can. Why? Take a look at the two BEST, HOF 1st basemen of the 21st Century: Albert Pujols and Miguel Cabrera. Look at their Age 31 and beyond stats. And then think about the contract you’ll have to give to Goldschmidt.
You’ve gotta go full-rebuild in Arizona. They tried with this core a couple times, it didn’t work. It’s been 7 years since they won the division when PG was a rookie.
Beckham to SD makes a lot of sense as a stop gap at either SS or 3B.
Padres can clear some Rule V eligible guys that would easily fit into BAL’s rebuild/time-table/and plans.
Michael Gettys plus someone like Carlos Asuaje possibly.
Beckham/Garcia could be a R/L combo at SS until Tatis Jr.
The first domino that has to fall for the Dbacks is Greinke. He will have to be the first player/contract moved in any type of rebuild. If Goldy is moved, it will be after a Greinke trade.
Arizona could have Allard right now from the Braves for Greinke & 30 mill
AA make it happen
I would do Allard for Greinke + 30 million if I were AA.
Trade Greinke just to get out from the contract. Then extend Goldschmidt on a team-friendly deal. If he declines, then trade him too for some young stars.
Sucks for the now. Great for the later.
Trade him if he declines for young stars? If he declines you won’t get young stars for him. You would get young stars for him now.
If you were a 30 year old premium player, would you sign a team-friendly extension with a team just starting a rebuild? Would you be inclined to sign any kind of extension at all?
Goldy should be a Diamondback for life.
Sure seems like there are a ton of quality pitchers available in trade right now.
Wonder what kind of impact it will have on contracts handed out. They might be a fair bit lower than expected if a couple of these guys start moving around
Blue Jays haven’t had serious discussions about Marcus Stroman because nobody is serious about Marcus Stroman until Marcus Stroman proves he’s not a 5+ ERA pitcher.
No way that ERA comes down this year. I don;t see Stroman as a starter for much longer. He had never had the personality for it. He loses concentration every second game and blows up.
Make him a closer before he is worth nothing on the open market. Oh wait, that is what Shaprio and Atkins like to do, wait until a player has little value then trade them away or get nothing for them, sarcasm heavy and obvious.
The plan needs to be A) he starts off the 2019 season hot as a starter, B) deal him June/July.
I can’t disagree with Atkins waiting too long. Too many examples over a very short period.
Blue Jays should wait to see what Gray brings, Gray has a better track record but Stroman has extra year packages could be similar.
Stroman/Staff Ace: Choose one
Stroman is not an ace and never will be one. He doesn;t have the personality/character for it. He blows up every second game and has since he started pitching in the bigs.It’s only a matter if he can contain it and his emotions, which as he is getting older he is showing that he can’t.
He would be an elite closer though.
Greinke back to Royals. nice homecoming. Goldy to the Braves or Yankees.