Padres outfielder Franmil Reyes will undergo surgery to repair a torn meniscus in his right knee and will be sidelined for the next four to eight weeks, tweets Dennis Lin of the Athletic. The team expects him to be ready for Spring Training.
Reyes, 23, sustained the injury while playing in the Dominican Winter League, where he was off to a ludicrous start through 13 games: .444/.510/.689 with three homers and two doubles in 51 plate appearances. The knee issue will likely end his DWL season, though even an eight-week timeline would have him back up to speed by the end of January.
The injury is of some note, however, given that Reyes has seen his name surface in past trade rumors. San Diego has somewhat of a crunch in the outfield corners, with Wil Myers, Hunter Renfroe and Franchy Cordero all on the 40-man roster, to say nothing of center field options like Manuel Margot and Travis Jankowski.
Certainly, a relatively minor knee surgery won’t eliminate trade interest in the young slugger. But, the added health questions could nonetheless give some teams pause and/or lower the amount that an interested party would be willing to surrender in a theoretical deal. The Padres’ efforts, to this point in the offseason, have seemingly focused on potentially shedding the remainder of Myers’ contract, but they’ll undoubtedly explore a wide swath of options with regard to their outfield as the Winter Meetings approach.
Reyes, listed at a hulking 6’5″ and 275 pounds, made his MLB debut with the Padres this past season after laying waste to Triple-A pitching early in the year. The big man somewhat quietly posted a .280/.340/.498 batting line and clubbed 16 home runs through just 285 MLB plate appearances — production that’s all the more impressive when considering the spacious nature of San Diego’s Petco Park. Reyes has his flaws — he graded out below average in right field and struck out at a 28.1 percent clip — but there’s plenty about which to be encouraged when looking at his under-the-radar rookie campaign.
Houston We Have A Solution
Gotta move Myers and Renfroe this off season.
Indians need pen help and OF help, I’d look to deal guys like Myers, Renfroe, Yates, Stammen to the Indians. They have some interesting prospects the Padres would have interest in like Nolan Jones, Ethan Hankins, Noah Naylor who are a few years away and a very intriguing player in Tyler Freeman.
Twins also make some sense if they put Myers at 1st and Cron at DH.
longlivethechief
Indians aren’t taking Myers. Never gonna happen.
NotaGM
it may not happen bit Myers is an Indian like given their history. contract will be the issue.
Samuel
lol
Just yesterday I posted that Reyes would be perfect for the Indians as a corner OF. 23 years-old; under control for 5 years; hits with power; high OBP history.
Strike that.
The Indians have no use for Renfroe – below average hitter; poor OBP; awful arm; not controlled long term. Not even a Kipnis in the making. The Indians FO is smart. They’re not trading an established TOR pitcher on a team-friendly contract for garbage. Try this……
Bauer for Myers and a decent pitching prospect in A or AA ball. Indians pay Myers full contract in 2019. In 2020, 2021, and 2022 – the Padres pay 2/3’rds of his contract, the Indians cover 1/3.
RedRooster
Renfroe controlled through 2023 and below-average hitters don’t have OPS’s in the .800’s.
Samuel
He’s a Dave Kingman type.
Nice to have on a fantasy league team. Exciting for fans of a 2nd division team to come out and see – preferably in a bandbox ballpark.
2018 was his 3rd year with the Padres.
RedRooster
2016 he only spent 12 days in the Majors. 2017 they kept him in the minors for a month so that he failed to accrue a full year of service time between 2016 and 2017. Service time sits at 1.165 years as of now. Can’t be a free agent until you have 6 or more. That’s 5 years away for him.
SDHotDawg
You might want to review Renfroes stats before you try and dump him.
zippytms
Why move both? Franchy Cordero will probably spend most of the season in AAA working on plate discipline and defensive fine tooling. It makes sense to move one of Myers/Renfroe/Franmil but there’s plenty of room for the rest.
Padres458
Really don’t need to move 1, certainly not more then that
Danny B.
Haha!!! Now I know why all of them Padres fans were including Reyes in all trade proposals for Syndergaard. Boy, this puts more pressure on San Diego to make a splash. Better up their offer for Thor. They can keep Tatis Jr. Offer the Mets Austin Hedges, Luis Urias, Mackenzie Gore & either Chris Paddack or Austin Allen. And before all those Padres fans go crazy by offering both Hedges & Allen in the same deal, remember that you still have Francisco Meija as your everyday catcher.
Houston We Have A Solution
Mets fans are gonna be severely disappointed when they don’t get what they are expecting.
Mets won’t net Urias and Gore.
1 of Mejia or Gore will be the headliner and 2 of Logan Allen, Quantril, Adrian Morejon, Jacob Nix, and someone like Manuel Margot and Austin Allen will make up the return.
The Padres aren’t gonna create a hole at 2B by trading Urias. They aren’t going to deal Paddack who looks like a #1 for years to come and is closer to MLB ready than Gore.
Gore, Adrian Morejon, Jacob Nix, Manuel Margot, Austin Allen, and another prospect like Gabriel Arias is fair. But at that price I’d rather offer the Rays Gore and Mejia as the two centerpieces and backload it with the glut of prospects from positions of strength to a Blake Snell trade.
Padres2019ha
Nah. Thor is injury prone. Not gonna get 6 prospects. Mejia, Quantrill, Allen and a lottery pick for Thor. That’s a top 25 and 2 top 100’s. That’s plenty IMO
bjupton100
Margot isn’t a prospect.
Danny B.
I think Padres fans need to stop overvaluing their prospects. At the end of the day, prospects are just that prospects. Talented young players with ZERO major league experience. Urias got a taste of the majors last season and wasn’t impressive. If Padres want to hold onto all of their “prized” prospects, then good luck in 4-5 years and pray that at least 3 of them pan out because if there’s one thing that is certain, all of these prospects will not have successful major league careers. Syndergaard is a proven commodity and will NEVER be traded for just prospects or even underwhelming major league players like Margot. Keep dreaming San Diego. The Mets will either get exactly what they want for Syndergaard or worse case scenario, keep their second ace next to DeGrom. Either way, the Mets win.
Stig
I’m not Defending Padres fans trade scenarios but just reading Mets fans comments is exhausting. Your exactly right. Prospects are overrated so your bottom 3rd farm system is right on track. You also finished 4th I think in the east and 2 of the teams in front of you are moving to get better. Stick with your proven commodities, don’t change a thing
Danny B.
Haha!!!!! Another uneducated baseball fan. I may be a Mets fan but I’m a baseball fan first and foremost. Do your research bro before sending empty insults at Mets fans. Our farm is bottom 3rd, Google it bro, Mets are in the Top 12. So, if my math is correct, we are barely outside of the Top third. If people want to make fun about how bad the Mets have been year after year, that’s fair game but when you post things that are completely not true, that’s just frustrating. I’m serious bro, get educated or at least get your facts right.
Stig
I did google it “bro”. You were 28th to start the year and climbed to 19th so your right you made it 1 spot out of the bottom 3rd. Now I’m sure you’ll find some obscure Mets blog that rates them 12 like you say. I’m just quoting Baseball America as reported by SNY.
lowtalker1
Mets fans need to stop over valuing Thor
He breaks more then myers.
Danny B.
Fair enough Stig.
Stig
I’m with you. I root for the Mets. I want them to compete in the east for sure.
csspackler
If they’re overvalued then why would the Mets want so many of them?
bjupton100
So that the chances of one or two panning out was decent. If Thor wasn’t injury prone would we hear his name in serious rumors. A mlb tested (mother approved) ace #2 on a major market team with the ace of the n.l. wouldn’t be talked about without serious money issues, a bad team, or serious injury concerns. Use the brains that separate us from lower life forms.
csspackler
If he wasn’t so injury prone you might hear about better packages.
The brain can be logical.
NotaGM
its not padre fans over valuing…its sites that list top farm systems. that’s what turn fans into believers.
NotaGM
top 19…that’s gonna score big results with Padres.
Friarfaithful117
Agree, he only averaged 16 starts the past two seasons. I would hesitate to even deem him a true “ace” until he can stay healthy.
juicemane
You’re exactly right. The site could say Boston has the #1 farm and these sheep would eat it as gospel.
Dodgers have been trading from their “topped ranked” farm for years to stay competitive. How many of those prospects are even in the league?
juicemane
I agree and If josh Donaldson is a bargain according to fangraphs then how is a potential 30/30 guy who is 5 years younger and can play multiple positions is overpaid.
Injediwetrust
Thank you.
bush1
The Mets Farm System is no where near a top 12 farm system in any ranking I can find. They average in the low 20’s from most ranking systems. So the “do your research “ and “get your facts right”, need to be said to you. I’m not trying to be hater but to post such bold comments about anoth poster making stuff up, and then you post the Mets are a top 12 farm system? That’s kind of messed up…
larry48
Padres minor league players are below average. Tell me any padres player that they developed that is good. Lot of quantity not so much quality .
Padres458
Ownership management changed. What happens in the past is irrelevant.
SDHotDawg
Irrelevant? That is a lame rationalization. Unfortunately, I’ve come to expect it from many of my fellow Padre fans.
disgruntledreader 2
The only way in which Paddack exceeds Gore is proximity to the majors. It’s not even especially close in regards to who’s likely to be the better big league pitcher in the long run.
davep-3
Allen is looking less and less like a full time catcher and more like a 1b according to some reports from scouts.
Danny B.
Honestly, that wouldn’t bother me. Mets get Allen, who might have a better glove at 1B then Alonso anyway and then the Mets could use Alonso in a package for another player.
YourDaddy
What reports are those? Links?
csspackler
Longenhagen and McDaniel at Fangraphs, Kyle Glaser at Baseball America.
Fangraphs: “Allen has big power and the org think he can catch, but we’re skeptical and don’t think he profiles …”
Link: fangraphs.com/blogs/top-43-prospects-san-diego-pad…
SDHotDawg
That link was from early last May. Allen improved tremendously as a catcher this year. Did you miss those reports, or just choose to ignore them to make your point?
disgruntledreader 2
That’s not quite right. Most scouts NEVER thought Allen would be a catcher. I think if you’d told most who saw him going into his draft that he would log the majority of his Double-A innings at catcher, they would have laughed at you. He’s improved his receiving skills significantly, they were just really poor to begin with.
Padres2019ha
Casually switching out Allen for Paddack in a trade offer implies you dont know sheeit about baseball✌️
ncaachampillini
Danny B is the king of unrealistic trade offers for Thor watch out.
Danny B.
Oh my……..watch out everyone, the cry baby is back!!!!!! Stop sucking on Kris Byrant’s pacifier, you need to out grow that crap dude. Don’t worry, therapy & medication can fix that for you. You’ll be alright.
Danny B.
Pretty sure I know far more than you. Stop trolling. The adults are talking here. Go ask mommy to warm up your milk.
ncaachampillini
Like I said.
ncaachampillini
I actually can’t wait until Thor gets traded so we can see the actual return and compare against the dream list some people have, ahem, wished upon.
Were he a horse like Scherzer with 3 or 4 years control then yes you could ask for the moon. But Syndergarden is a walking DL stint. He’s very good YES. And you’ll get at least one superstar prospect. But you’re not gonna get a team’s top 5 prospects or anything like that.
Good luck on your addition of two digit numbers test today. You’ll make it through. I think. And your obsession, and I mean obsession, of mommy’s milk and pacifiers is really strange bro. I mean kid.
bjupton100
Enlighten us smartass.
disgruntledreader 2
I just assumed he meant Logan Allen, but is a New York fan and therefore really bad at understanding most of baseball.
Codeeg
It’s a meniscus tear. I’ve had one and it literally took me 2 weeks post surgery to hang full ROM and another month to be at 95%. And that’s after removing half my medical meniscus.
Danny B.
Bro, I’m happy that everything worked out for you, I seriously mean that. However, the wear and tear of a baseball season on the knees is significant. Also, Reyes is a big guy. That added weight & muscle, I’m sure, must be troublesome to get through the rigors of MLB. I wish him well and you as well but if I were the Mets or any other organization, I wouldn’t touch Reyes……..not until he plays another full season.
Padres458
Basketball might have half the game, but the biggest men in the world jump and run nonstop to pretty much no problem. A lot more running over the course of a basketball season.
RedRooster
He won’t be traded. No other GM is going to trust Preller enough to trade for a player with anything less than a perfect bill of health.
juicemane
Says you…but we just made like 4 trades last week. Lol.
Cough* Brad Hand@ cough* for best catching prospect cough* in the entire league! Cough*
You keep with that narrative though
RedRooster
None of those trades were significant. Minor trades to clear 40-man space in advance of the deadline to protect prospects from Rule 5? They were barely a half-step above straight waiver claims.
You have fun with your untrusted GM though
juicemane
“No other GM is going to trust Preller enough to trade for a player with anything less than a perfect bill of health.”
Your words, not mine…
RedRooster
Which they haven’t
SDHotDawg
You’ve finally come around to the reality of human nature in small groups.
You’ve previously argued exactly the opposite about Preller when it was pointed out that his trust and ethics issues might impact his ability to deal with other GMs.
RedRooster
Err… What? When did I ever say otherwise? Again, drop a link or gtfo.
padreforlife
Wow Red you really got your thinking cap on that one
csspackler
Reyes’ knee injury occurred just in the last week. Trade talk began a month ago.
padreforlife
Yea because Mejia is proven catcher
RedRooster
Thanks for the hard-hitting analysis Johnny Superscout!
VegasSDfan
Knee issue at his size? Trouble ahead.
Am I right?
Danny B.
I believe so. Just look at Daniel Murphy. Has knee issues, still a good hitter but it’s not surprising that his name has not been brought up once this off season. Shows that teams have concerns.
bjupton100
Only if you believe he was an outfielder and not mainly a dh/1st baseman going forward. I believe he was a strong armed Lf’er at most.
juicemane
He could barely jog in the outfield before this so i am concerned.
Attention all AL teams, best DH in the game
Soldierofgod619
Theres still Myers,Renfroe,Cordero at the corner spots in the outfield even if Franmil isint ready by opening day theres depth. Shedding a few pounds of fat wouldnt hurt.
bitterpadresfan
If the Padres trade away the prospects they have been selling us on for years two years before they are realistically ready to compete I’m done. What’s the point of Thor if we still suck?
mrpadre19
We’ve had plenty of prospects before……where are they now?
We traded about 15 of them a few years ago and only two would we want back.
Yes we have a ton of top prospects but even “top” prospects fail….all the time.
A top Farm system helps you two ways…..and one of those is trading prospects for players who have already proven successful at the major league level.
bitterpadresfan
Absolutely agree. Having one good player isn’t going to win you anything though. You have to develope some prospects to build a foundation and then make trades and buy players to put you over the top. We aren’t at that point yet. If Tatis and Urias end up being good and we end up having the makings of an infield then by all means start looking in to trades to get some proven talent.
Padres458
Was the best prospect lost back then better then are 20th now? Personally I’m all for the right trade. I look at Tatis- Gore- Paddack – Patino as untouchable.
619bird
Place is a death trap for left handed hitters.
sdpadsfan11
I hope the Padres get outbid in the race to acquire Thor. This is a case where the players name is bigger than the actual player. The Padres will not be contending until the last year of his contract at the earliest so it makes no sense.
marinest21 2
I 100% agree with you. Sadly, your above argument sounds eerily similar to last year when they were pursuing Hosmer…
juicemane
We have Hos for another 7 years on a front loaded contract, average annual salary near what mike leake is making look at that!…so yea try again
marinest21 2
My main point was my agreement in that I hope the padres don’t get outbid in their pursuit of Thor as they did with hosmer. As with Thor, Hosmer is/was a bigger name than his respective talent + value.
No matter how you slice it, the Hosmer contract was and will continue to remain a burden on the padres. That’s not even debatable, unless you’re a homer padres fan. His value simply does not equal the cost. Especially at 1B, which is the lowest premium position in the game. Look at Astros, Red Sox, Dodgers, brewers, etc. none of those clubs have shelled out large dollars to 1B only players. Almost all of their guys play other positions/had to end up there due to other defensive limitations.
I’m not sure if the comparison to Mike Leakes contract is sarcastic or serious. That is a bad contract as well. Hence why the mariners wanted the padres to assume that deal in any trade for Myers.
Please keep continue trolling.
juicemane
“Hosmer is/was a bigger name than his respective talent + value.”
look at Harper’s last 3 season WAR totals, and you will be forced to say the exact same thing….
“Look at Astros, Red Sox, Dodgers, brewers, etc. none of those clubs have shelled out large dollars to 1B only players”
Dude, we’re going to be paying Hosmer 13 mil in 2023-2025…when the price of 1 WAR will be like 12 mil according to fangrphs…that what releif pitchers are making, today! We have a first baseman that won a gold glove and a silver slugger…how many 1B can say that??
Padres458
By the time the padres young guys are making decent money in arbitration. He will b in the 4th year of his contract. The padres have 52 million on the books in 2020. Arb + major league minimum salaries aren’t going to get the salary over 75m in 2020. The Hosmer deal cannot hurt the Padres
RedRooster
If he’s any good he’s just going to opt-out in advance of the cheap years and it will cost the Padres more than 3/$39m to replace the production lost by him opting out.
RedRooster
And if Hosmer is worth more than $13m a year at that point he will opt out
juicemane
Would he really want to opt out of a dynasty?
RedRooster
If he’s worth more than 3/$39m at that point? Ubetcha
disgruntledreader 2
(Actually, it’s more like the argument Padres fans made FOR signing Hosmer rather than trading prospects for the now-reigning NL MVP.)
Padres r knocking on the door
I agree, but I think the majority of this hoopla is coming from the NY media. According to Kevin Acee, who seems to have all the inside info on the Padres, the Pads would like to have thor, but don’t have to have him.
Injediwetrust
Well according to Acee yesterday on 1090 there were 4 names he would consider as close to untouchable in Tatis, Gore, Paddack, and Patino. Now keep in mind early in the week he reported players that wouldn’t be included in the Paxton offer were Morejon, Baez, Paddack. Acee felt Urias could be in play in the right deal.. Gotta think Owen Millers rise in they system with Xavier Edwards behind him not to mention 2 or 3 others can make that possible but they still believe in him.
The essence of his articles this week is they want to find a fit for a TOR but there are pieces they see as core to their roster coming in the next 6 to 18 months. The window has always been 2020 into 2021 and they aren’t going to make a move that would jeopardize this. If the don’t get Noah, so be it.
Kevin did say they were chasing up to 10 leads on multiple fronts and did expect something to break during the winter meetings
kingtopher
Kevin Acee is Ron Fowler’s propaganda department.
SixFlagsMagicPadres
I would take what Acee says (along with every other local Padres sportswriter) with a grain of salt. They’ve embellished things before, and many of them (Acee included) has said stupid things in the past. But at least he’s not that guy who voted for Scherzer to win the CY Young award over degrom because “he had a better win-loss record.”
padreforlife
Exactly 2021 at earliest and that’s Thor last year.