10:50am: Victor Victor’s bonus checks in at $5.25MM, while Victor Jr. received a $1MM bonus, per Sanchez (Twitter link).
Oct. 22, 9:55am: The Marlins have formally announced the signing of the Mesa brothers and will be streaming a press conference to introduce the pair at Marlins.com and also on Periscope.
Oct. 20, 2:48pm: Victor Victor is expected to receive a bonus in excess of $5MM, per MLB.com’s Jesse Sanchez on Twitter.
2:12pm: Jon Heyman of Fancred tweets that the Marlins have officially signed the brothers. Terms of the deals have yet to be released.
1:15pm: Cuban outfield prospect Victor Victor Mesa and brother Victor Mesa Jr. are expected to sign with the Marlins at some point in the next few days, according to Jorge Ebro of El Nuevo Herald. The news is certainly not official yet, but an unnamed source claims the brothers have passed physicals and will be introduced “imminently” at a Marlins Park press conference (at which Executive Director Derek Jeter and President of Baseball Operations Michael Hill are slated to attend) scheduled for 11 AM Monday.
Victor Victor, 22, was arguably the most coveted amateur free agent on the International market at current, and Ebro’s sources indicate that he’s expected to receive a bonus in excess of $4MM. Mesa Jr., 17, is expected to receive a bonus “close to” $1MM, per the report. Right-hander Sandy Gaston, oft mentioned in concert with his countrymen, appears to be headed elsewhere, per Ebro, though FanGraphs’ Kiley McDaniel tweets that “the belief” is that Miami could still find a way to fit him in their ~6.75MM bonus pool, too.
Victor Victor, the son of Cuban baseball luminary Victor Mesa, slashed .354/.399/.539 for Matanzas in his last full season of play (2016-2017, when he was just 20) in Cuba’s Serie Nacional. Reports have indicated that he may need just minimal seasoning in the minors before getting his shot with the big club, with MLB.com taking particular note of his “outstanding” defense, plus throwing arm and running ability, and potential to hit at the top of a lineup. The older Mesa starred in a recent showcase at his soon-to-be new home park, where he impressed scouts during a live batting practice session. Mesa Jr.’s calling cards appear to be an above-average arm and plus contact ability, though at age 17, he certainly has plenty of projection remaining.
The addition of the Mesa brothers, particularly the elder of the two, is an important step in the Marlins’ ongoing rebuild of the organization under new ownership. Last offseason’s trades of Giancarlo Stanton, Marcell Ozuna, Christian Yelich and Dee Gordon marked a clear retooling effort with a focus not only on shedding payroll but also adding a wave of young talent to the organization. This latest pair of additions will only further the goal of creating a foundation of intriguing young players. With most of its pool now exhausted, Miami will look to offseason trades and a favorable No. 4 overall selection in the 2019 draft as additional avenues to bolster its growing reservoir of prospects.
“Derek doesn’t know what he’s doing!” This is a coup for Mia.
No it’s not. These guys r really good
Bruh, google “coup.”
Ha!
Xablal is a moron
I sixth that.
Don’t worry, I’m ok, you’re ok, we’re all ok.
Did you ever think it was a phone word change or typing issue?
Coup: a highly successful, unexpected stroke, act, or move; a clever action or accomplishment.
achievement, often by maneuver
dictionary.com/browse/coup
Xab, it seems to have been your first sentence in quotes that makes the second line unclear. That or I’m the moron because I thought you were critical of the move and the word “coup” was a typo.
Quotation is sarcasm font (of Jeter haters) I’ve been a staunch defender of Jeter since day-1
What part of this was unexpected? The Marlins have been stockpiling IFA money and openly salivating over these two for months.
You sure are a glutton for punishment.
Marlins are always losers, based on “pundits” Some weren’t expecting this. Case in point: “busts” because Miami signed them.
They out maneuvered to get that IFA and outmaneuvered the O’s.
You could also say unexpected because Orioles were perceived as a serious threat to sign Mesa brothers. (Why Yankees backed off, and signed Alexander Vargas for $2.5 million) Through a series of well-executed trades, Miami put themselves in position to sign the Mesa brothers by accumulating INT to compete w/ the O’s.
The fact that there was no mention of the Os who had a little more. The fact that the Os have no GM and the fact that they would sign in Miami. I’d figured they would have ended up somewhere better, and no a team that historically guys everything.
Guts
We all can be idiots at times. My not realuzing
He’s a troll. Just ignore him.
Marlins had more INT pool than O’s
“In the past 10 days, the Marlins completed three separate trades to boost their bonus pool
Oct. 6, Ryan Lillie was dealt to the Reds for 750K, Oct. 10, Kyle Barraclough was sent to Nationals for $1M.
Before the three trades, Marlins had the 2nd-most pool money at $4.3M. Only Orioles, with $6.7M, had more. Trades believed to have pushed Marlins’ figure to above the O’s’.”
mlb.com/news/marlins-trade-pass-os-in-internationa…
We all can be idiots at times. My not realizing the quotes and its’ meaning was one of my turns…Too much hatred though or just plain jealousy from fans whose teams haven’t won recently.
But even though had more, your point stands, lowtalker. The amt may have been negligible. (Don’t know why hard to find updated amount of pool money teams have lol)
@realgone preach
Thanks, dewey. Thought quotation was sign of sarcasm. Even pple didnt get it, thought “!” at end would lock-in faux outrage, was trying to show. Like said, rebuild was inevitable. Can’t wait until Jeter reaps the fruits of his labor so his critics crawl back to their rocks. (Unless they Miami fans, really respect you, despite disagreements on Jeter’s direction. Light at end of every tunnel. Good luck!
Upvoted all day.
As I read yet another butchering of the english language, I said aloud, “Just. Shut. Up.”
It took 104 posts for first mention of “votes” Can you guys verbally eviscerate this guy, like you do to me?
What was that? Huh Nope? That’s ok.
Actually, 13 (Now 14) are mine.
That amounts to 13%.
less, if you ignore this dribble post, accusing me of dribble, and 0% baseball from you guys.
drivel*
Some things worth weakening my position.^
Xabial,
Oh no the internet people don’t like your comments. Go outside and put the computer down for once
I don’t know how people didn’t understand the comment. Bunch of grandpas on here who don’t understand the internet and would rather get mad than think.
Transactional Analysis
And what does his political views have to do with commenting on a baseball site? People take politics too far these days. Not one candidate would pee on you if you were on fire. We don’t exist to them except as little monkeys, that dance while they grind their organ. Yet, some of you try to instill politics into every conversation about everything. We all have something in common here. We all love baseball. Let’s keep the topic on that alone.
Too bad there’s no sarcasm font in the commenting function. This is actually a great move by MIA.
Like I said maybe we’re all dumb and he is some mlbtraderumors stand up comic.
He can put /s
Thanks. Doubt putting in /s would’ve made a difference. The hate for me is real. least used this article to display Derek doing good things, despite naysayers, and constant Derek bashing
I thought his sarcasm was pretty clear. I feel like people are just weirdly against xabial. he can post the most benign thing and get 5 downvotes
Thank you man. Love ya, john.
Ur prob gonna get accused of being me next. (Like I said before, their hate for me is real)
I too get xabial. If it gets me 5 down votes, bleep it.
xabial Though I disagree with you on Jeter. This was a good move, but I still think he was an outstanding player with zero sense on where he is in this position. I hope he proves me wrong. I will own up.
Yeah, it was super clear. It’s bizarre and I don’t know why people put so much energy into aggressively disliking someone in the comments section. Yeesh.
Xabial could not have been more clear. Fascinating someone could be confused by that comment, even more fascinating when they defend their illogical reasoning for down-voting.
I don’t always agree with him, but based on the reaction it’s as if Xabial came out and said he had just slaughtered a bunch of puppies.
Xabial is all right. He does his research and posts alot. It’s way better than Eileen and her psychotic ranting.
Ummm I dont think you know what coup means.
“Good” good or Rusney Castillo good?
Castillo’s contract is what is doing him in now. Sure, he’s no star, but that 10m AAV isn’t going to get called up for another chance in Boston the last few years when they have been near/over the salary cap and it’s not like Castillo hasn’t done fair at Pawtucket, the contract has done him in and with the new CBA it’s permanent AAA since once called up, no more DFA to get rid of the salary hit for good.
Well if they are really good than its a coup than right? So what is the issue with xabial’s comment?
I look forward to them reaching the majors, becoming stars before being traded in inevitable salary dump. Lol
when 2024 marlins will suck for years by choice this will not help.
Why did Marlins trade Stanton/Ozuna/Yelich?
Last in NL attendance — 12 in the last 13 years— missed playoffs every year— since 2003– Have not had winning record since 2009 – year of Stanton’s debut, with one of, if not worst MLB farm systems.
Stanton had full NTC, owed $265M. Scouting Report of best prospect Marlins got from Yankees:
“lightning-quick arm and relatively easy delivery produces exceptional velocity in a fastball that sits 97-103 mph as a starter.” —
“regressed as a strike thrower ‘18. Power slider is above-average pitch and complements his heater nicely; together they help him to rack up strikeouts. He also has changeup in nascent stages.”
m.mlb.com/prospects/2018?list=mia
Was bummed losing him. SP or RP, wasn’t “give away” for Stanton. Keep throwing false narratives.
Give this new ownership group a chance. doubt signing Arrieta would have took them to the promised land.
The smartest Marlins’ fans are the ones who knew scorch earth tear down rebuild needed. You sheep will be the first to praise Jeter, when is successful. Feel bad for Jeter.
Yes this are re-posts.. This is for the Miami fans who make it their life’s mission to eviscerate Jeter. (Like Marlins man, Dan Le Batard, doubt they’re reading LoL) Try responding back to facts..
He also got lit up in A ball and has horrific command
Stanton was owed $295 million, and the Yankees owe $260-265 million of that.
So, money was the best prospect sent back for Stanton.
He was the 3rd guy they should have got back in the trade
Marlins are going to turn it around for baseball in southern FLA.
Tough crowd, X.
It’s the same crowd. MLBTR just doesn’t moderate posts (sans politics and race) so they think it’s ok to keep doing it, over and over. A lot of their “votes” from multiple accs too; so don’t get fooled. Can’t criticize me for that hypocrites)
You wanna get at me, fine. least bring something baseball to the convo. All their posts are 100% irrelevant to “MLB”. (Same people)
This place actually good place to test out routines for stand up.
Well I got the sarcasm, not sure if that makes me a genius or a moron. I’ll hang up and listen.
In four years they’ll be traded and all this for nothing
In order for it to be a “coup” the prospects actually have to pan out. You also must think that every 1st round draft pick turns into a future HOF’er
Instead of coup, the Mets magic word is boondoggle.
Both brothers will then be traded for next to nothing, while seeing their stars shine brighter following the trade
Because that happened with Stanton and Ozuna. I’ll give you yelich but let’s not act like that breakout wasn’t totally unforeseen
Mark Buehrle, Josh Johnson and joes Reyes day hi
Say
What? Marlins actually got a decent package and salary relief from the Blue Jays.
Yunel Escobar, infielder Adeiny Hechavarria, right-hander Henderson Alvarez, left-hander Justin Nicolino, outfielder Jake Marisnick, catcher Jeff Mathis, and right-hander Anthony DeSclafani.
Mark Buerhle, Josh Johnson, Jose Reyes were Loria’s trades though….this is Jeters team
Jose Reyes was at the time and every second he was the Bluejays SS, the worst defensive SS in the league. They even put a new carpet down that slowed the ball down what seemed like 20 mph he still couldn’t get to anything, and when he did he threw the ball in the dirt.
Josh Johnson was hurt virtually the entire time he was there.
Buerhle while good wasn’t worth taking on the combine financial commitment of all 3. Because of it the jays are stuck paying Tulo now.
They will be traded for next to nothing you say? But you do not say why that would happen. Are you just a crybaby still whining about the Marlins trades from last year that were forced from the previous regimes handcuffing the team financially or do you bring something relevant to the conversation
I’m a Yankees fan
If you think the Marlins were “forced financially” to trade 25 year old Christian Yelich on an amazing team friendly contract, one that pays him $7 million the first couple of years, then you fit the demographic of the people the Marlins were trying to reach when they made that claim
I personally disagree with the notion that Stanton’s contract was an issue as well, but I dont want to get into that again
The Marlins made countless abhorrent trades over the last several years, totally depleting their depth in the organization, and their terrible top 3 rounds of multiple drafts in a row, as well as injuries to prospects, made their farm system into a joke. They lost Jose Fernandez, and then they signed a couple of guys that got injured. That’s why the Marlins needed to trade everyone besides Yelich, Stanton, and Realmuto. I would have even been fine moving Stanton if they got anything back, but they didnt. They got the 3rd and 4th guy they should get in the trade, took back Starlin Castro and his $25 million left on his deal, which they couldn’t move, and gave the Yankees $30 million if Stanton doesnt opt out for some reason. Totally ridiculous. Stanton has value on both sides of the ball. It’s not like he is bat only. Also, his contract was really 3/$77 million remaining, instead of the 10/$295 million, b/c if he stays healthy, he’ll opt out. There is no reason, besides health, to think he cant put up numbers to justify the contract, and even provide some surplus value, and his injury history includes several fluke injuries. And if he doesnt opt out, possibly b/c he likes playing there, they got him for 10 years/$240 million b/c of the money that went back, and at his age, that’s a huge bargain. Yankees had arguably the deepest farm system in baseball, and the Marlins extracted nothing.
Again though, I’ll let that one go. There is no excuse for the Christian Yelich trade. If you were going to trade him, you’d better get back a legit return. Instead they got a bunch of low floor, super high risk guys. And then once you traded Yelich, Realmuto should have been moved at that point, but just like so many others the last several years, the Marlins are going to wait too long to trade him. Just one example recently, I dont understand why they wouldnt move on from relievers back in June, when they were having big seasons and had real value, but then they have no problem moving 1 of those same relievers after he had a terrible 2nd half, for absolutely nothing. Then it’s the way some of these guys talk, and the condescending tone, as well as the smugness, and insulting of everyone’s intelligence. That reminds me of early Loria. I still believe that when the time comes, this ownership group will eventually do the right things, which Loria never did, but it’s still really frustrating to see how they started this rebuild, as it should he much further along than it is. They went from what could have been a 2-3 year turnaround, and made it at least 5-7 more years, unless they get lucky
Now I’m mad at myself for letting me go into this again lol
Sometimes you make a clean sweep and start all over. It’s a business. They’ll be back better.
The marlins absolutely fleeced the Yankees. Anytime you get a sucker to take on 200 mil+ in salary you made out like CEO of Sears. These people that live in some fantasy land where players that are making that kind of cake are still valueable to every team need to be drug tested. Also these buffoons don’t know what NTC mean. If the guy only wants to go to one or two teams you don’t have any leverage in trade talks. Again with all the known variables the marlins won the trade regardless of how Stanton plays. Stanton might not even last in New York another season fans might boo him onto another team.
Leverage was they didnt have to trade him to cut salary. The narrative that they did made zero sense based on obvious math. It was just the laziest way. They could have dropped down a bunch of money, and kept Stanton, Yelich, and Realmuto, and retooled around them. I dont remember the numbers now, but I remember it wasnt difficult to figure out back then. Regardless, that was proven even more true by the fact they didnt even drop payroll all that much
Much like the famous Nick Punto trade with the Dodgers. $252 million if I remember right.
Not to single out formelyz, but pple who criticize MIA, only see monopoly money
Stanton was owed $295M, nearly 300M Yankees assumed $265M of that!
“I would have even been fine moving Stanton if they got anything back, but they didnt. They got the 3rd and 4th guy they should have got”
MIA got guy w/ 80-grade fastball 97-103 mph you think should’ve been “3rd and 4th piece” Starter or closer, still valuable, Miami’s top-5 prospect w/ chance to rise.
If Stanton had the type of season, this year, with MIA, you’d have been lucky to get him as “first piece” Jeter sold high on MVP, who regressed, and shed 200M+ in the process.
“contract really 3/$77 million remaining, instead of 10/$295 million, b/c if stays healthy, he’ll opt out.”
You try to spin opt out positive, but this is one of if not biggest things, made him LOSE trade value. No one wants to trade for that kind of uncertainty! Absurd, for Loria agree to adding it, but cant blame Stanton for asking.
Also.. that’s big if! $200M+ is a lot of money, even in 2020. A lot has to go right, but you’re just assuming it’s an automatic. Stanton will be 31+ season. He wont be in his 20’s anymore.
Lots of emotion, but the window to trade Stanton was small. It hurts more because the Yelich trade feels like biggest loser at moment but Stanton or Ozuna remain to be seen. Heck, let’s see how Yelich does next year Lol. Had Stanton had 2018 in 2017, prob still be Marlin
Roger Roger!
This is victor, vector
We have clearance, Clarence
lol…
$hit is definitely gonna hit the fan
“My dad says you don’t try hard enough.”
lol…this is great
Over Oveur
Orioles trade all international money to Braves for Adam Duvall
I’ll ship 750K for Duvall. Couldn’t be worse than the 23 yo old in rookie ball. We should have the inside track for Gaston now though.
You can have Duvall for free.
That was more of a shot on the orioles for trading 750k for a 23 year old in rookie ball than it was being serious about Duvall
Yeah I get it, but as said Gastón now becomes the target. He impressed scouts and is considered by some to be potentially the best of the bunch.
Party in the city where the heat is on
All night, on the beach till the break of dawn
“Welcome to Miami.”
Marlins are a crap organization so they’ll probably bust
I think it’s good that they are doing this, but I think the younger brother will be the one who makes an impact when the marlins are back in contention. I don’t think they will be serious contenders until probably 2023 or 2024 and that’s being generous.
Where are the morons who still don’t think Jeter is doing a good job rebuilding? Other than the Yelich trade what has he done wrong exactly?
Maybe because had the Marlins not rebuilt they would have had a chance at the division? Braves won with only 89 wins, and many of those wins were against the pathetic marlins. Had they acquired a couple of starters they could have won that division.
no the Marlins would not have won division and neither would have Braves
You think the Marlins are a couple of starters away from a division title, you’re adorable
They were when they had two MVP’s in their outfield.
If they didn’t trade Yelich, Gordon, Stanton, and Ozuna away this year, they would have probably been a 80-85 win team in 2018.
Add a few starters, and might have had a shot.
But payroll….
We don’t know yet how much cash was given to the Mesa brothers and if it was important enough to give away Barraclough for virtually nothing yet. The Stanton deal was still a pretty much giveaway since the fish got nothing of import in return for one of the best sluggers in the game then who was 28YO and got the Fish to cover 30m of his contract.
Some NYY fans still expect some babe Ruth type character to emerge and it just ain’t going to happen. What they got is just a top 10 slugger in the game and fail to appreciate it.
That trade still sticks in my craw. I’m tired of how so many Yankees refer that trade as..falling into their laps. That trade was totally over the top financially, and not needed. This will handcuff the organization for years, and please don’t say how it makes so much sense financially.
Agreed fiber. When the Marlins were sold, it was likely already factored in that Stanton was gone. Who knows but with the surprise price the team sold for, Jeter might have considered a Stanton trade a win even if they had to eat $50m (or more). Why would anyone trade for him this year without financial relief when they won’t even half to lose a pick for signing Machado? Let’s see how much he actually gets.
*so many Yankees fans
Stanton was basically the mirror image of Judge at the plate, without the overall athleticism. His temperament is in no way suited for NY. The best thing for Stanton and the Yankees would be for him to want a trade to the west coast. This relationship is only going to get ugly down the road.
That’s just it Greatcereal. I see him as a better hitter than Machado and machado is going to get more money. It’s not like he cost the Yank’s any prospects and they had plenty of salary at the time of the deal, should Boston have had plenty of room at the time would have liked for them to have made the move IOW..
Like you said tho.. The truth of his value will come out when machado’s value comes out.. Should some gullable GM fork over 300m..
Stanton has always been just what u got men on strike out behind strike out. Judge is also bad but cost less
Wait you’re still here?
If Boston has proven anything in ’18, it’s while you always will win a game with the big bomb, two out hits with runners in scoring position will win you the pennant. While Stanton’s power is magical, Machado’s ability as a pure hitter makes him more valuable. The questions with him are more him as a person and whether teams will still shell out in both years and average value. My guess is he gets 7 x $35m average with at least two opt outz
I think he’s getting much much much more than 245.
Machado gets more than 245 but it’s going to be spread out over 10 years. 10/280-300 possibly with an opt out somewhere in there. Say year 4 or 5.
He just signed two pretty crappy players with Cuban pedigrees that very rarely translates into average MLB talent. What else do you need to see?
The problem is that everybody thought he was a step up from Loria and then he came in and did exactly what Loria would’ve done. I don’t think anybody said any owner couldn’t rebuild.
I think this is it exactly. Here comes the new boss, same as the old boss. That team has been rebuilt over and over and over again, and had arguably one of top 3 worst owners in all pro sports. So I think what not just Miami fans but baseball fans in general were hoping for was that a new owner was going to build on this team, which had some great talent to work with, and make a contender. First thing though, can’t afford these contracts, rebuild the team, sell talent for pennies on the dollar. It’s frustrating especially when the other guy bidding supposedly would’ve done more with the roster and had better Miami roots.
I’m a Brewer fan and love Yellich but don’t bail on the pieces you got in that trade yet. I think your gonna be very happy with them by the time they all reach the majors, just probably need a year to adjust and some more coaching. Too many people want the perfect finished product
Possibly waiting for the Marlins to not suck before giving Jeter any credit for success that’s all theoretical at this point?
What has Jeter done? The same salary and talent dumping the previous regime did. Of course when they do something positive Jeter and his 1% ownership with get all of the credit.
I honestly can’t even diss the Yellich deal. Brinson may have struggled but if we’re being honest, rewind to February and you have a can’t miss prospect who looks like a catalyst for years to come. Im willing to give him time too.
When will they do something about these big international spending teams??? It’s not fair to teams like the Yankees and Red Sox.
Spit my coffee laughing… Good one!
Latest reports, however, hint that Victor Victor Victor Victor Victoria Mesa will be signing elsewhere.
Does he have any secrets?
The Jeter redistribution plan continues. Two average OFs at best. Fail.
such BS
What bout the pitcher ? Do they have enough money for him as well ?
If I was Jeter I would go for Puig in the offseason
And Moncada
And Harper, Kershaw, and Machado.
You were only supposed to list Cuban players!!!
Good thing the Orioles traded 3/4 a million Int Slot money for a minor leaguer they won’t ever use.
Maybe they should get a GM so they can actually go something.
Nice job Marlins.
I dub thee Victor Victor Mesa Mesa Sr. Jr.
This had me laughing for a solid 2 minutes. Thank you
Jeter just want to make money , not win still dumping payroll want more money for being bad
Huh? Is that English?
#BuildTheWall
I imagine Charlie Kelly wrote this comment.
Meet at later bar night or day sometime
What about Gaston?? We want him too.
Am I the only one here that’s really confused with this victor victor and victor jr thing!? Their father, victor sr, really likes the name victor.
George Foreman has I believe 5 sons, and he named them all George.
He has 6 sons named “George Edward Forman”
Thank you for the correction, I knew I was in the ball park but didn’t quite have it right.
Little Caesar’s needs a sponsorship deal with Victor Victor Mesa.
“What’s for lunch, Victor Victor?”
“Pizza pizza!”
good for Marlins fans. A little something to get excited about, even if the potential payoff is years away.
I’m sorry but it sure seems to me that a lot of these Cuban ballplayers don’t live up to the hype. Rusney Castillo, Dayan Viciedo, Alex Guerrero, Yoan Lopez, hector oliviera, Erisbel Arruebarrena, and on and on. Huge contracts up to $70 million. I get that there have been some pretty good Cubans like Jose Aubreu and Luis Tiant back in the day but even some of the better ones like Puig and Chapman have been headaches off the field and moncada sure strikes out a lot. And few are heading to Cooperstown. Contrast with the many spectacular Dominican players who fill the majors and minors. As time goes on it does make you wonder how much of the so called mythical Cuban baseball is just a lot of hype.
A lot of American draft picks fail to live up to the hype as well, but it’s still big news every time the draft rolls around
Just for a little perspective
There just haven’t been many Cuban prospects period, so cherry-picking the bad ones is a little disingenuous; I mean, there are way more prospects from the US who don’t pan out, or from the Dominican who don’t work out. Or Mexico, or even Japan. I don’t think them being Cuban has anything to do with anything; there just haven’t been very many of them. Just like I don’t think Brandon Wood being American had something to do with his spectacular flameout as a prospect.
hopefully these guys turn into christian yelich-type players on christian yelich-type deals.
You mean as soon as they show some worth they’ll be dealt? Of course, it’s Miami!
Mmmm saying they turn into Yellich is setting a pretty high bar…..
But while scouts are hardly always right, they’re right a lot more than wrong. The older Victor looks pretty solid; a top 10 draft choice if he was in the U.S. 5M is about right for that kind of talent, all things considered.
Good move by the Marlins. And, to be fair, MANY thought the Brewers overpaid for Yellich. Give Sterns credit; he saw what Christian could be instead of what he had been. You can credit all kinds of things; smaller park, natural maturation, etc. But let’s face it, he was Yaz-67 in terms of strapping that whole team on his back in September.
Given that these “one star for 4 prospects” deals seldom work out for the team that got the prospects, Miami MIGHT have done OK; it’s still TBD.
Well… at least you got the NL MVP’s first name correct.
The NL mvps name is spelled with a J and ends with a Z
Its not a 3 month reward. Its for the whole year. Yelich had a better Ausgust and September over Baez. That’s it though. Baez was consistantly all year. He was either scorching hot or cold but never ice cold.
There was never any single second that the return for Yelich looked to be even decent. They got multiple low floor, super risky prospects. How is that a good return?
The Sox are signing Mookie Mookie Betts.
Congratulations to Jeter and that AAAA organization for winning with the bids at $5 and $1 mil…thank goodness for the cap because anything more than that and they’re out. These kids won’t see a second contract in Miami and if they do they’ll be traded before the ink dries.
I think this will be a case of “Winning in the Off Season” only. I just don’t see future greatness in the stats of the Victor Mesa Bros.
In typical Marion’s fashion they acquired two good trade pieces.
His name is victor victor ? How did his parents thing that was a good idea?
Wastes whole international fund for two players way to go marlins rofl
Marlins are the Victors
They’ll sign Voctor and Vector Mesa next year.
This signing I don’t think will work out
HAIL TO THE VICTORS!!!!!!!
Surprised they went to Miami. Thought one of em might bite on the big piles of cash Baltimore were throwing there way
They showcased at Marlins Park. Marlins had more piles of cash than Baltimore. How are you surprised they went to Miami?
I thought it was expected
When something makes too much sense for the Orioles, the expected is for them to somehow balls it all up …
$1mil is now “piles of cash”?
5.25 million is.
Jr’s paycheck of $1 Million is pretty damn good for “an above average arm and plus contact ability”!
Yes, I would consider that a pile of cash at 17!
Good luck V’s!
Hope you bring passion and winning down to Miami. They need good baseball to last and thrive!
The thing that amazes me is that their dad is a big time communist. He was even a member of parliament in Cuba, when he was in his prime he said he would never defect because capitalism was evil. Someone needs to write a story about what his dad thinks of all this. Btw his dad would have been a star in the usa. Cocky player with plenty of speed, once brought a chair to center field and sat on it daring hitters to hit it to him.
Cuba is a socialist country, not a communist one. There has never actually been a communist country in history. But that’s a fun story about Mesa, Sr. – he is on a list of Cubans who might have been huge stars in the MLB if they’d chosen to defect.
I hate politics on baseball threads especially a great thread like this but I’m not sure if what you are saying regarding Cuba being a socialist country is accurate? In fact I’m pretty sure you are wrong.
Socialism is an economic system while communism is both an economic and political system. … Cuba was communist because people were controlled by the government!
Socialists can own personal properties while communists can not. 5. Socialism allows capitalism to exist in its midst while communism seeks to get rid of capitalism.
The communist manifesto reads that the “dictator” stage of the transition into communism should be very brief and then give way to a purely collectivist government apparatus without a leader. That’s all I meant. Cuba, the USSR, etc. have never gotten past the “powerful leader” phase of the transition.