Alex Speier of the Boston Globe looks at the Red Sox’ decision not to add a reliever to prior to the non-waiver trade deadline. That non-trade scenario that flew in the face of president of baseball operations Dave Dombrowski’s reputation as “Dealer Dave” — one of the most aggressive executives throughout the industry. Dombrowski, though, talks with Speier about the fine line that an executive needs to walk in being content with the strengths the organization has. “I’ve been with clubs that were very good and won world championships and clubs that lost world championships — every club could be better,” said Dombrowski. “Once you improve something, the public pressure is there to improve something else. You just have to be aware that you’ll have to be content with what your club is at certain stages.”
Red Sox special assistant Tony La Russa, meanwhile, speaks about the process of deliberating whether the better move was to add a reliever or to move forward with a trade for righty Nathan Eovaldi. Perhaps the Sox could’ve found a way to do both, but if it was indeed an either/or scenario, it’s hard to argue with the results of that decision-making process.
More from the division…
- With new front office leadership on the horizon, the Orioles aren’t likely to lean as heavily on the Rule 5 Draft, writes Roch Kubatko of MASNsports. Baltimore’s previous Rule 5 endeavors didn’t really lead to much success (Joey Rickard, Ryan Flaherty and T.J. McFarland are the most notable players to date), though outfielder Anthony Santander and righty Pedro Araujo could yet change that reality. Kubatko takes a look at the Orioles’ roster on the whole, noting that Trey Mancini, Cedric Mullins, Jonathan Villar, Chris Davis, Dylan Bundy, Andrew Cashner, Alex Cobb and Mychal Givens are more or less the only locks for the roster (barring a surprise release of Davis or further trades from the team’s pitching staff). Whoever is brought in to lead the Orioles will have plenty of fringe pitching options on whom to make decisions and will need to add significant depth to a thin roster that is lacking in big league experience.
- Speaking of new Orioles decision-makers, Fancred’s Jon Heyman tweets that Baltimore “has sought to interview” MLB exec Kim Ng, while SNY’s Andy Martino tweets that Ben Cherington is also “in play” for the Orioles. It’s not clear if either is interested in the post, though Ng has drawn interest from the Giants and the Mets so far as well and was reportedly expected to interview with New York. Cherington withdrew his name from consideration for the Mets and Giants posts, though The Athletic’s Ken Rosenthal previously reported that Cherington could be interested in a GM gig that would allow him to build an organization from the ground up. That’d certainly be the case in Baltimore, so perhaps the Orioles opportunity will hold greater appeal for him.
- Sportsnet’s Ben Nicholson-Smith outlines an exhaustive offseason plan for Blue Jays president Mark Shapiro and GM Ross Atkins to follow, covering everything from option decisions to 40-man roster cuts, potential free-agent additions and some trade suggestions. Nicholson-Smith opines that Yangervis Solarte’s option should be declined, while Dalton Pompey is trimmed via a DFA. Veterans Kendrys Morales and Russell Martin should be considered largely sunk costs in the final seasons of their contracts, with the vast majority of their salaries being eaten in trades to save a few million dollars. While it’s all speculative in nature, it’s also an excellent look at the wide-ranging slate of decisions that Shapiro, Atkins and the rest of the front office will have to consider in what looks to be a busy offseason in Toronto.
“though outfielder Anthony Santander and righty Pedro Araujo could yet change that reality.”
A corner outfielder with a .198 / .250 / .297 line and a relief pitcher with a 7.71 ERA in 28 innings are actually promising developments in Baltimore.
If all you go by is numbers as a barometer of someone’s potential then, yes, what you’ve said above makes a lot of sense.
and what better barometer is there?
How about their entire minor league career and considering that both jumped several levels to get to the majors and post the numbers you referenced.
Rule 5 draft picks who come in and perform in the majors year one are extremely rare. To throw them away after making a jump these guys clearly aren’t ready for is just stupid. To put any weight on what they did this year is just dumb. Neither may pan out but it’s not because they didn’t perform in the big leagues in 2018.
They were rule 5 picks who weren’t ready for the majors. That’s the nature of rule 5 picks – they’re usually guys who jump from A-ball to the majors or whatever because the Rule 5 requires the players spend all season on a MLB roster or be offered back to their original team at half the waiver cost. It’s a way for a rebuilding or bad team to add talent for at the cost of just a roster spot.
Case in point was When the Padres took catcher Luis Torrens from the Yankees a couple of years ago. He was widely viewed as a future starter with a good bat and solid defense. I was shocked when the Yankees didn’t protect him. He had a miserable year in San Diego when he was chosen but he will be back in a couple of years and will be a solid player. Had he not gotten hurt when he was in the Yankees system he would definitely have been protected and would be on the cusp of a MLB roster spot next year. If he kept progressing like he was he would have made it a lot easier for Cadhman to trade Sanchez away. I was and still am very high on him and am looking forward to seeing him return to the bigs.
The O’s just have to bite the damn bullet and release Davis.
Why? You’re paying him either way, and you aren’t going to win any time soon. Keep trotting him out there and hope he regains some trade value.
Sounds about right, but there will come a time when the roster might need to be freed of that disaster. Not yet, however.
I agree, eventually it could come to that, but hope to get something out of it first.
At least that way it’d open up another spot in the outfield since they’d likely move Mancini to first and have Trumbo become the permanent DH.
Use Davis as a utility guy and hope he figures it out. All these young guys are going to need days off. On a team not going anywhere next year, Davis can fill in at 1st, 3rd, and corner OF. Let him play to give the regulars there breaks.
A utility guy? He can DH and barely play first
Chris Davis? He’s a good first baseman. All the stats you could look at say so. Defense has never been his problem; his historically awful season at the plate is the real issue, but there’s no way he could repeat that….probably.
Davis plays a very good first base. He can’t hit a baseball anymore but the defense has been just fine. We need to play Mancini there because he obviously isn’t a corner outfielder.
By releasing Davis you keep the stench of his apathy away from the new young players.
by keeping CD and playing him the team will continue to lose, leading to better draft picks..
Davis isn’t the only reason we suck. We have the worst roster in the big leagues with or without him. If we manage to deal givens, Cobb, bundy and villar it’s going to get a lot worse. We’ll be picking 1 or two again next year
Reason not to bite the bullet? Age.
Chris Davis is the same age as Albert Pujols was when he was given 10-year 240M. Reason to hope?
Reason-2? Owed $85 million over next four years.
Another reason?
The deferred money; $42 million from 2023-2037, or $2.8 million per year 15 years after contract expires.
Prediction: Davis stays put for at least another 2 years.
I’m sure the new GM will make the Davis situation part of the negotiations; that’s to say s/he will want to have certainty re Davis and options for him before agreeing to the front office job.
Why is the Pujols contract a reason to hope? It’s a bad, bad contract – he’s fallen off a cliff.
That goes to show you why the Sox brought Larissa in, to loan his smart pitching eye. If they didn’t get Eovaldi there is is no way they would have won the games he had so far
Luckily Toronto has BNS making all their moves for them!
I would imagine that Cherington is not only a strong candidate (who would also be further motivated by vengeance on his former club) but also someone who would be most interested in the opportunity in Baltimore.
Any Blue Jays fans think Russel Martin has anything left. Could he come in and share time with Flowers and be productive. How is he in the clubhouse is his leadership good and does he handle a young pitching staff well ?
If he checks all the boxes maybe he comes to ATL in a package with Stroman. If they are rebuilding we got some prospects they could be interested in.
Does Russell have anything left? Yes, mentorship to Jansen and McGuire if they choose to have 3 catchers and Russell plays more INF. That is about it. But there’s no need for Tyler Flowers.
Blue Jays don’t have much starting pitching. Very thin at the top. Stroman’s only being traded if he sulks/whines/acts childish on public social media accounts. Stroman won’t cost the Jays a ton and if he bounces back he becomes a stronger trade commodity. No reason to deal him at this point.
More likely AA signs JA Happ. He loves Happ and might take a run at him.
He is not signing Happ if the Braves get a pitcher it’s gonna be an Ace or Ace potential if not they run out what is there. If anything Sanchez would come back which I still don’t think would be a bad thing if he was willing to take a swing man role.
Blue Jays are not trading any pitcher. Period. They have no depth. None. So do not expect a deal with Toronto.
Don’t be surprised about Happ. AA loves Happ. Really loves Happ. Guaranteed AA will kick the tires to see what it would take to get him.
Never mind I just looked at their numbers and they suck
I can see Solarte re-signing a short deal to come back to San Diego. Fan favorite, good back up at 3B/2B/1B to spell Hosmer, Urias and Villanueva/Myers at times. He could be a better version of what we all hoped Jose Pirela would be but is not. It might actually make more sense if Myers could be moved somehow.
Solarte absolutely collapsed in the second half this year and because the defense is so bad he doesn’t have much value as a utility guy. He’s not an upgrade on Spangenberg or either Asuaje or Pirela or some other minor-league infielder the Padres have hanging around. Those guys are fungible; you don’t pay a l;ot for them.
Yes the Jays have lots of decisions to make. Can this leadership make the neccessary ones? I don’t think they have the cohonas.
Stroman has to stay, Sanchez should head to the pen until innings prove his finger is fixed. Estrada gone, Reid Foley, Pannone[until he slides to pen], Gaviglio, and Borucki in the rotation.
Maile gone, Jansen main cather with Martin and McGuire as backup.
Solarte should be gone but at the moment the internal Jays Mgmt conversations are ongoing about this decision. Diaz .third base and backup to 2nd. Gurriel Jr Shortstop, Travis traded for prospects, Urena 2nd, Drury backup,.
Pillar should be traded for pitching. Outfield of Hernandez, Mckinney[until he slides], Grichuk, and Alford. Dwight Smith? Davis in minors.
Smoak traded for pitching. Tellez, 1B, Tulowitski 1B and DH[no whining], Morales gone,
Giles, Tepara, Barnes, Mayza, Fernandez, Paulino, Gurerreri, Biagini all in pen. Clippard, Leiter Jr, Petricka all gone. File in holes with FA’s or trades or from minors.
Darn Yankees, couldn’t even beat the Bosox in the playoffs.
Kim Ng needs to be a GM somewhere
Teams in the California Penal are looking.
+11 on the reply scale, and of course that usually tops out at 10…
DD starting to look, well … old!