In this past Thursday’s column, Jon Heyman of Fancred Sports details the attempts of the Orioles to extend star infielder Manny Machado “several years ago”. Machado, as MLBTR readers may remember, was traded to the Dodgers prior to July’s non-waiver trade deadline for a package of five prospects, including outfielder Yusniel Diaz.
Turning back the clock, though, there were myriad possibilities for Machado’s fate under former owner Peter Angelos’ tenure. At an undisclosed time in the club’s history, ownership was apparently prepared to pay Machado $64MM to remain in Baltimore for the next eight years. According to Heyman, multiple people familiar with the talks remember such negotiations taking place, also recalling that the contract would have represented “by far a record” for a player with that limited service at that point in time. Presumably, then, these negotiations took place during a year when Machado was not yet arbitration-eligible.
The people familiar with the negotiations apparently remember that Machado’s camp wanted an additional guarantee in the seven-figure range. More specifically, agent Dan Lozano was said to be open to a pact, but it had to “start with a 7”. As Heyman notes in his article, that means an amount as little as $1MM per year could have prevented a deal from getting done.
Clearly, not taking a deal has worked in Machado’s favor. While the extension would have shattered previous records for both total dollar amount and average annual value for a player with only a year or two of service time, such a contract would have offered team control over at least a pair of Machado’s would-be free agent seasons, for which he’ll now likely be paid at least $30MM a pop. It’s commonly accepted that the All-Star infielder could command a deal north of $300MM due to his young age and level of play, and any extension in the $70MM range would have promised him much less than that for the additional seasons of team control.
At first glance, it’s easy to think Orioles ownership might be kicking themselves for refusing to increase their extension offer. After all, the added control over Machado means he’d have commanded a far greater prospect package in order to be dealt at the deadline this season. But while it’s easy to see where the former Oriole is now and wonder why the heck Baltimore couldn’t loosen its purse strings a bit, one ought to remember that significant risk would have also come along with the deal. After all, he required surgery on both knees at different points throughout his career. And no young stud is a sure thing to replicate his production over the course of eight years, particularly if there’s injury risk in his player profile.
Machado will hit the open market on the heels of his fourth consecutive season of at least 33 homers, and a wOBA north of .325. His 29.7 career fWAR to date is more than a little impressive, and he’s even chipped in 14 steals on the season. He’ll receive the added advantage of entering free agency without the burden of a qualifying offer, since he’s ineligible for such a restraint after being traded mid-season.
2012orioles
But they can pay Ubaldo, Gallardo, and Cobb… that’s the stuff that makes me mad. They risk money on questionable pitchers but don’t spend the extra few million on Machado.
2012orioles
Same situation with markakis as well – 1 million a year separated the 2.
dimitrios in la
2012. Yep, they didn’t offer Marsalis a fourth year. That fourth year looks good, but it’s a Wall year and then other three years haven’t been that impressive. The O’s had tough decisions I make (Cruz, Markakis, Davis, plus others). Even if I don’t agree with the outcomes, I can actually understand their thinking on each of the deals at the time they were made—or not made.
Solaris601
Their strategy the past few years is to wait for what’s left and sign them for a below market contract. The problem has been that the pitchers they’ve signed have been available for a reason, and those reasons have played out on the BAL mound. When you sign a deeply flawed player, you’re gonna get deeply flawed results.
jdgoat
You can probably argue too that the only time it’s ever worked out was with Cruz
Mattimeo09
I’d say they’re not signing the leftovers at below market rate. The contracts they’ve signed Cobb, Trumbo and Davis to are well above their market value
dimitrios in la
The Cobb deal is one I’m glad they made. He’s a good pitcher. Tough year but will put it together and do well.
Verlander2TheQuickening
He was teammates with Bud Norris at the time, coulda been ugly in the clubhouse had he signed.
E munchy
I’m sure they tried….just not very hard.
dimitrios in la
They offered what they thought was fair. Seems to have been reasonable enough.
E munchy
Pay Davis and not Manny. Granted manny has to want to stay but good grief talk about money not well spent.
gomerhodge71
Nobody wanted Davis. They got duped into giving him the bucks, but essentially bid against themselves.
Z-A 2
They are bad I dont blame him for saying no. Holding on to Dylan Bundy “cant miss” well they could have an established player for that bum.
jt3z
I wouldnt believe a word this hack Jon Heyman says.
jleve618
It’s definitely hard to.
qbass187
Who wants to play for that disaster of a franchise if you can go out, get paid AND play for a team that’s not a total dumpster fire.
davidkaner
Exactly!!
gomerhodge71
Not to mention the area/community has gone straight downhill in the past ten years. I can’t picture anyone wanting to live there or anywhere nearby. When you have to play a game in an empty stadium because of unsafe conditions, free agency looks pretty tasty.
mehs
Is someone with a Chicago team’s logo really talking about crime elsewhere?
gomerhodge71
Meh Sheep…it’s a Cleveland logo. I’ll PM you a coupon for Lens Crafters.
jbigz12
GomerHodge again spewing ignorant nonsense. Are you from Baltimore? Harbor East which is about 5 minutes from the stadium is extremely nice. Anything along the waterfront In Baltimore is nice. The inner city is an inner city. It’s not nice. Is the inner city of Chicago, STL, or Oakland nice either? No it isn’t. Stop spewing out this garbage. Do you think multi-millionaires lifve anywhere those rough areas? They sure as hell don’t.
gomerhodge71
The inner city of Oakland, for example, didn’t have a mayor supporting rioting, looting and arson. Oakland never had to hold a game before zero fans in attendance because it was unsafe to walk the streets. Baltimore was a fine city until the early 2000’s. Now it’s two rungs above Compton.
davidkaner
He deserves better than that pathetic organization! Glad he got out & hopefully he signs with a young team he can lead!
Mattimeo09
Pretty funny the Dodgers traded 5 prospects (including a top 100 guy) for a top tier talent like Machado, and still couldn’t win the division
jdgoat
Their half a game out of first….
RedRooster
Their what is half a game out of first?
jdgoat
Oof
imindless
Last time i checked manny cant pitch which is dodgers achillies this year. Not to mention manny numbers as a dodger are very underwhelming .275 9 homers…
Kenleyfornia74
The dodgers scored 17 runs yesterday and 0 today and thats their problem. They only have the best rotation ERA in the NL so calling pitching their achillies is wrong.
dodgersz
Actually, Machado’s stats w/ the Dodgers are :
GP AB R H RBI BB SO HR Avg
53 215 29 57 30 22 47 11 .265
johnnynoze
The team that pays Machado next is going to regret it for years to come. Selfish, check. Doesn’t step up in a leadership role, check. Total overhype imho.
Baroody
Your humble opinion is a misplaced opinion. You don’t need to be a leader to be worth the amount of money that he’s going to command. Selfish? Baseball is inherently a selfish sport, but he is as excited for his teammates success as anyone in the game. Just watch him whenever a teammate does something positive. He’s right there at the front of the celebration. If you’re referring to him pushing to play SS instead of 3B, he has the right to make the request. Now, if he’s asked to play 3B and refuses, you have a case. When he moved to the Dodgers, what is the first thing that happened? Turner got hurt and Machado filled in at 3rd until they found another player to take over so Machado was able to move back to SS. He also has the right to sign with a team that agrees to let him play SS and I’ll bet he might even take a little less $$$ to do so, though I wish he’d stick to 3B. He is a shoe-in for the Hall if he stays there. Not sure about your definition of a leader. Mike Trout is not much of a prototypical leader, but he is worth every penny he is getting. And his team usually stinks.
NotaGM
Since I’m not a GM id offer him 5yrs at 110 along with a front loaded contract with incentives. Its a new era amd front loaded contracted need to happen.
Cam
Why?
mehs
And his agent will laugh hysterically at that low offer relative to the market.
fljay73
I would pay no player over $200mil on a contract. Orioles should have signed him to that extension back then for $70mil or so. Those $200mil+ contracts become a burden to the team over time. Cobb is a competitor that more than likely will bounce back. Davis was a bad signing in hindsight but now you have to hope he can have some better seasons.
Orioles46
Davis is on the wrong side of 30 now, and is playing like he’s at the end of his career. He is going to have the worst season as an everyday hitter, at any position in the history of MLB. Rob Deer & Dan Uggla thanks him.
Terry Damm
$64 Million plus $1 Million equals $65 Million. That still doesn’t start with a “7”. What am I missing??
mehs
” $1MM per year” 64+8*1 = 72
wadewar
I am glad they didn’t sign Manny. Coming into spring training he kept say he is the short stop not what was best for the team. It’s all about Manny and what he can get in free agency. Manny is not bigger that the game.