SEPTEMBER 19: As expected, Kopech has undergone the procedure. He’s not expected back until the start of camp in 2020, per the club.
SEPTEMBER 7: White Sox righty Michael Kopech has been diagnosed with a torn ulnar collateral ligament, the team announced to reporters. Tommy John surgery has been recommended for the highly regarded young hurler.
This news represents a major blow to a rebuilding organization that had hoped to build momentum entering the 2019 campaign. Kopech, 22, had only just arrived in the majors — bringing the promise of an exciting end to a largely forgettable 2018 campaign.
While the long-term hope will remain that Kopech can become a front-of-the-rotation anchor, it’ll have to wait until 2020. Odds are, he’ll be sidelined for all of the 2019 campaign while recovering. The silver lining for the young hurler — and the twist of the dagger for the organization — is that he’ll accrue MLB service time all the while.
Kopech entered the season as one of the game’s brightest pitching prospects, and largely delivered on the hype in his first full season at Triple-A. He turned in 126 1/3 innings of 3.70 ERA ball, with 12.1 K/9 and 4.3 BB/9, before receiving his first call-up to the majors.
Upon his promotion, Kopech turned in three eye-opening outings in the majors to close out the month of August. Though he was limited to just 11 total frames owing to the whims of Mother Nature, the youngster allowed just a single earned run while racking up nine strikeouts against one walk.
Unfortunately, the flamethrower exhibited a velocity decline in his most recent outing, an 82-pitch dud in which he allowed seven earned runs on nine hits (including four long balls) in just 3 1/3 innings. It seems that something wasn’t quite right, clearly, as the organization ordered testing that identified the newly revealed injury.
To this point, the South Siders’ efforts to build a new core have run into the realities of exposing young players to the majors. There’s still plenty of promise, but the aggregate output is a 56-84 record. And strides for some players have occurred alongside struggles for others — especially in the rotation.
When the Sox traded away Chris Sale and Adam Eaton in the 2016-17 offseason, kicking the club’s rebuild into top gear, the result was a farm system that many considered one of the best in the sport. In addition to delivering top position playing prospect Yoan Moncada, that pair of swaps delivered a haul of new pitching talent.
There has been promise along the way for the hurlers, with Kopech shining as one of the brighter lights. Prospect Dane Dunning has as well, though he has been on ice since late June owing to a balky elbow. Those pitchers that have already spent significant time in the majors, though, haven’t yet delivered on their promise.
True, southpaw Carlos Rodon has put together nearly a hundred frames of 2.89 ERA ball this year after returning from his own injury problems. But even that effort has come with questions, as Rodon’s breakout in the results department has come in spite of peripheral declines. A similar early showing from Reynaldo Lopez has now corrected over the course of the full season. Other young pitchers — Lucas Giolito, Dylan Covey, Carson Fulmer — have continued to run into troubles in the majors.
At this point, the outlook of the 2019 rotation is at best uncertain. Without Kopech, the unit appears decidedly less exciting. Exactly how that’ll impact the team’s offseason plans remains to be seen, but there’s obviously potentially another hole to be filled. Of course, there’s also less cause for the organization to believe it can move into a truly competitive stance.
Photo courtesy of USA Today Sports Images.
bucketbrew35
Damn, that sh*t is just devastating right there….get will soon Michael..
matt41265
rest in peace
xabial
This isn’t TOS.
Kayrall
RIP
xabial
I know you being a Cubs fan, the rivarly runs deep, and can totally relate to that with those Boston Red Sox, but this kid is a special talent!
He threw 110MPH! (Video proof below)
twitter.com/teamAPEC/status/821427846241546240?s=2…
xabial
I think he’ll be ok. Like I said TOS seems to be the career-killer these days, not TJ.
thepapacy
And this is why he is having Tommy John surgery. Not directly but bc he throws so hard. They say the max a ball should be throw at or something like that is 94 or 95 bc those ligaments just aren’t strong enough to throw harder..every 98 mph pitch is one pitch closer to tj surgery.
If I wasn’t to busy I’d look for a link but I’m pretty sure it was James Andrews who was the one I seen speaking.
And I am a white Sox fan not a hater
JKB 2
He never thru 110 off a mound in a game
rocky7
Get out of here with 110MPH!
You need to check that Twitter that is resting on your shoulders!
Polymath
He was in his Porsche driving at twice the speed limit and tossed a ball out the window — 110 MPH. ‘‘Tis possible.
MetsYankeesRedSox
What would Einstein say?
xabial
“Get out of here with 110MPH!
You need to check that Twitter that is resting on your shoulders!”
Twitter was the original source. Perhaps, you’d trust Chicago Tribune:
The Headline: “White Sox pitching prospect Michael Kopech throws 110 mph in drill”
It’s old story (January 2017) but one thought still worth sharing. Article also listed all the different conditions Kopech faced that enabled him to throw 110. Idc if it was a non-game, him throwing 110 (game or not) makes me want to root for him.
chicagotribune.com/sports/baseball/whitesox/redeye…
xabial
Aren’t you a Yankee fan? (like me) Love the added bonus he was a Red Sox prospect traded for Sale. Though Boston is winning the trade so far, yet another reason to root for this kid.
davidcoonce74
This looks like the most harmful possible drill ever devised by a company that claims to train elite athletes. My lord, no wonder he’s hurt..
Strauss
So now it looks like the w. Sox only got a second baseman who barely hits .220 for Chris Sale.
RedRooster
Didn’t know Tommy John surgery was a career ender
jbigz12
Great take, Strauss. Moncada is incapable of developing and kopech might as well hang his cleats up. You nailed it.
sidewinder11
Yikes. This sucks for all baseball fans. He looks like he’s going to to special
rocky7
Wow, you can tell that this early in his professional career after what 3 major league starts? You should be on TV!
walls17
first mac miller, now this. what a terrible day
simschifan
I’ll take “one thing has nothing to do with the other for 100”
lilpartialbaldo
100? When’s the last time you watched Jeopardy bro?
simschifan
20years at least
Begamin
he didnt say those events caused one another, just that both events made his day worse
simschifan
I understand that but this is about baseball not a nobody rapper
xabial
The guy’s dead. He was 26. I’m not sorry for the irrelevance. Grow up, and learn to ignore posts.
brewcrewer
RIP Mac
hoosierdaddy
I noticed that his velocity was down during his last outing and he gave up 4 dingers. This would explain why that happened.
Joe Kerr
I was thinking that too but obviously hoping not. This sucks.
JJB
Agreed, I read his lips at the beginning of the game with whoever the catcher is. He said “hey catcher fellow, I blew out my elbow but I’m going to pitch anyway, OK man?”
mmarinersfan
So upsetting.
Free Clay Zavada
Felt like the White Sox had been getting some nice breaks lately, guess it was about time…
Voice of Reason
I know Clay Zavada. We’re from the same town.
Konerko 4 Prez
I’m also from that town. Go Bulldogs.
kylebarn26
should’ve never brought him up, they should havr shut him down for the season.
Jockstrapper
Thanks for being that guy!
simschifan
What did bringing him up do to his arm? That’s the dumbest thing I have ever heard
RedRooster
RIP
nmc420theambassador
trade gore before this happens
MetsYankeesRedSox
Al Gore invented TJS
Thomas Bliss
Frank Gore?
simschifan
Terrence gore is on the Cubs
gleybertorres25
Mackenzie Gore
brewcrewer
Gore is not horror
ThePriceWasRight
2 takeaways
1. it’s devastating but based on how it rained everyone he pitched this might result in less weather delays in Chicago.
2. we likely won’t see eloy up till 2020 now.
24TheKid
Don’t think this effects Eloy, and if that happens I think his agent may have a real case.
ThePriceWasRight
I agree but It wouldn’t surprise me if they figure this pushes back the window a bit and they delay him a bit longer.
jbigz12
There’s no chance they can hold eloy back in AAA for another season. The news to kopech is devastating but In all likelihood you’ll see dunning, cease, and maybe even Alec Hansen at some point next year.
philsox
Urgh that’s not good, was looking forward to watching him pitch. Hopefully he comes back strong.
leprechaun
Send him and Moncada back to Red Sox. We gave up the best pitcher in baseball Sale for 2 pieces of trash
Brett3333
Note. Sale isnt exactly 100% healthy right now either. Moncada’s 22 y/o season isnt great but not a disaster as he is within 10 points of OPS of Brian Dozier. 2B is thin right now. Throw in the 50+ ball 4s called a strike messing up his BB/K numbers. He will be ok.
Basabe has had a good year between A+/AA with an OPS ~800.
Kopeck will be back in 2020.
Let’s see how this looks in 2020.
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Powers McInnis
While I think Red Sox won the deal, it is still very early. Kopech has the makings of a top end starter for sure and Moncada will at least be above average power and speed second baseman with potential for more. Better days are ahead. Sincerly a red sox fan who thinks the white sox will be good soon
ASapsFables
The Red Sox aren’t winning any deal unless Chris Sale helps them to the promised land before his contract (and options) expire. Even if they do win the World Series the White Sox could match or exceed that number with their haul of players before all is said and done. Hopefully both teams will win this trade meaning titles for both color Sox.
Powers McInnis
Totally agree that it would be nice for both teams to get that final win of the season. Both have teams well set up for future years. Baseball looks bright!
jbigz12
The Sox won this trade because they needed chris sale now, not chris sale in 5 years. They don’t need a guy struggling through the majors like Moncada is now. Though they have Devers occupying that role. The White Sox may end up with some high quality players and do well for themselves to but these injuries and lack of production from Moncada show exactly why the Red Sox were smart to make the deal.
Brett3333
The Sox weren’t going to win it all in 2019. The timing now is better than next Sept. I think 2020 could be very interesting. Get well MK and we will rock it in 2020.
camdenyards46
This sucks
SilvioDante
April Fools, right? Brutal news … just when there seemed to be light coming from the dark and Danny tunnel … we were looking at a top 3 in Kopech, Rodon and Cease next year w Lopez and Gio holding down the fort on the back end … I think I’m going to puke!
ThePriceWasRight
cease was not starting the season on the team.
jbigz12
You could still see cease and dunning by mid season 2019. You weren’t competing for a playoff spot just yet. It sucks but it would’ve been much worse if it came at the end of next season. 2020 is when the window could open up for you.
Mishimacool
Is Danny Tunnel another budding prospect in his own right?
Kayrall
From a Northsider to my bros on the south side, Sorry to hear that. Never good news when top flight young talent gets hurt. Hopefully he can make it back quickly and successfully.
Voice of Reason
He threw more innings this season than any other season. Why in the world did they bring him up to throw in meaningless games? What a bone head move by the White Sox. Seriously.
ThePriceWasRight
yeah because those extra like 7 innings he may have thrown over AAA did him in.
Priggs89
He threw 134.1 innings in 2017. He’s currently at 140.2 for 2018. Would you like him to never throw over 134.1 innings in his career? Should they set an innings limit and never let him go over exactly 134.1 innings?
Blah blah blah
Hahaha. Serves the arrogant fans right.
simschifan
Idiot
everlastingdave
Cool, this season apparently hasn’t been terrible enough already.
Houston We Have A Solution
I saw some user comment on the jose berrios article kopech > berrios.
This is 100% their fault.
Richard Hangslow
There aren’t many sports stories that make my stomach drop but this did it.
johnny53811
Hopefully this doesn’t cost him velocity because he’s so good when he’s able to blow pitches by people
ASapsFables
Michael Kopech actually became more of a pitcher and less a thrower during the course of the past two months. He drastically cut down on his walks in AAA and continued that trend with the White Sox while maintaining his velocity and SO/9. This was due to commanding and trusting his entire repertoire of pitches and was the reason he was promoted to the South Side last month. To quote Rick Hahn, Kopech finally “checked off all the boxes” in AAA and earned his MLB debut in 2018.
Moonlight Grahamcracker
Hopefully he uses the next year rehabbing and learning not to act like an arrogant douchebag!! He’s a young d-bag so maybe there’s hope…
simschifan
Was looking forward to seeing him pitch against the Cubs in that series
waylonmercy
Does anyone know how many pitchers have been diagnosed with UCL tears this season?
Cat Mando
if my count is correct….30….the record is 46 in 2012 BTW
stymeedone
That’s the problem when you trade players like Sale, Quintana, and Eaton, who were young and already signed to cheap, long term contracts for possibilities. You’re not guaranteed that any of those prospects are going to develop to the level of those you traded away, and are unlikely to sign them to cheap long term contracts if they do develop. I have maintained from the start that ChiSox should have built around those 3, not traded them.
jdgoat
They did that for years, and were mediocre at best with those three.
sf52
Because that loathsome ownership couldn’t or wouldn’t spend the money to make it happen
RedRooster
Sox absolutely fleeced the Cubs on the Quintana deal. While the Sale deal seems to have worked out pretty well so far for the Red Sox, if the White Sox really want him back nothing says they can’t re-sign him after 2019.
MetsYankeesRedSox
Yeah, if I’m Sale, after 2019 I want to go back to a losing team.
RedRooster
They prob won’t be a losing team at that point. Anyway, if what you are saying is true, that Sale doesn’t want to sign there, it’s probably a good thing they traded him considering the alternative was to lose him for nothing.
simschifan
Cubs were not fleeced yet. Minor league stats do not count
RedRooster
But Quintana’s 4.00 ERA since the trade does.
simschifan
4.00 in the big leagues isn’t horrible, it’s not great but not horrible. I’m not a huge fan of his but let’s see first what Cease and Jimenez do
RedRooster
Won’t have to do very much to be worth more than a guy with a 4.00 ERA
mike127
Sure they will—-they have to lead the White Sox to a World Series win. The Cubs didn’t make the trade to be just competitive and neither did the White Sox. The object in not to “win a trade”, it’s to win a World Series. I’m pretty sure that the Rockies aren’t jumping up and down because they got Tyler Colvin and DJ LeMahieu from the Cubs for Ian Stewart. Certainly not this year, but if the Cubs are able to win a World Series because acquiring Quintana cheaply (financially) for the three years allowed flexibility elsewhere (Darvish, Chatwood—-oops for 18) then it works out for them in a much more indirect way than comparing Eloy’s stats to Qunitana’s. It is important though that Eloy and Cease help soon as there is only one other competitive team in that division. The Sox do not need to get to be a 95 win team to compete for a playoff spot. They just need to get out of the 60s quickly and there is hope that Eloy can help them get there.
mlb1225
I felt he was going to get Tommy John in his career, but not this early. But get well soon, it’s tough to watch a young guy have to undergo a major surgery like this.
lowtalker1
That was fast but I like what he tosses. Speedy recovery and apparently if the numbers work out correctly he will be back on the mound before ontahi
davidcoonce74
Man,, we can’t have nice things apparently.
waldfee
And another one bites the dust.
In 2014 Kopech committed to the University of Arizona under HOF coach Andy Lopez. Have been checking on his path through the Minors ever since. His PED suspension in 2015 served as a reminder of the pitfalls of pro sports.
Today’s obsession with pitch velocity over everything else makes a lot pitchers throw way too hard all the time, while also trying to gain an edge via PED abuse, as the current TJ epidemic clearly indicates.
Players juice. Power and bat speed increase. Pitchers have to throw harder to get the ball past them. Blow out their elbows. It’s a vicious cycle.
sf52
The White Sox are in love with these guys with triple digits fastball.
Jones
Burdi
Kopech
Jones is chronically hurt
Burdi just had TJS
Kopech on the way
ASapsFables
Is their an organization in baseball that hates pitchers with triple digit fastballs? Just saying…
ASapsFables
Hate to break it to you but most players no longer “juice” due to testing in both MLB and MiLB which puts a damper on your theoretical equation. Kopech’s PED bust occurred in the infancy of his MiLB career with the Red Sox and up until his UCL injury he was still hitting triple digits as a White Sox despite being “clean” since 2015.
nemoshooter
I keep waiting to hear the same thing about Jordan Hicks, and I’m serious.
jbigz12
Hicks throws half the innings kopech does. It’s a lot easier to dial it up for 2 innings bursts.
Jared Buck
There’s two simple reasons why UCLs keep tearing. First, baseball is now a year round sport. You have travel ball teams playing during the off-season for young players, and kids exclusively dedicate their time to one sport now. This leads to overuse of the throwing arm. Secondly, the human arm and elbow are simply not designed to throw a baseball at the velocities pitchers throw with these days. It’s only a matter of when, not if, a pitching arm will break from years of throwing so many innings.
nymetsking
It’s already happened.
ASapsFables
Nolan Ryan should acquire a patent for his remarkable durability and then market it to all of the hard throwing phenoms, their agents and the teams.
Cat Mando
Ryan was a very rare case. He did suffer a torn UCL and Dr. Jobe told him he would need TJS. He decided not to and figured his career was over. Come next spring it was healed (calcification) and he pitched 7 more years before it blew again.
xabial
What is “calcification”? How is this different from the non-surgery “PRP injection” today?
Cat Mando
Calcification isn’t a procedure it’s the natural accumulation of calcium salts in the body and usually on bone. Sometimes….rarely it accumulates elsewhere and in Ryan’s case it accumulated on and around his UCL allowing him to pitch 7 more years. The baseball gods must have smiled on him.
davidcoonce74
Nolan Ryan is probably the most singular pitcher in major league history. There has never been any pitcher like him ever. Every once in a century a guy like him comes around. But yeah, he’s not really an example of anything except a very singular and extremely unique baseball pitcher.
hitless1
“Parades are better than prospects,” said Casey Stern
E munchy
Sad situation on many levels. Geez
MetsYankeesRedSox
Bummer.
This story five years old but still a good read.
ftw.usatoday.com/2014/05/tommy-john-surgery-james-…
JJB
Next up on the bad news list will be that Eloy Jimenez is actually 32 years old.
simschifan
I would kind of laugh at that. But the way baseball is they’ll only have him for a few years anyway
Priggs89
Somebody please go wrap Eloy in bubble wrap NOW.
ASapsFables
His agents already believe the White Sox are suffocating his client enough and I tend to agree. According to Rick Hahn the White Sox want to see Jimenez improve defensively before he earns his MLB promotion so they opted to end his season prematurely in hopes that he will study up on how to become a proficient MLB LF before spring training commences. All this after their top prospect had already missed some valuable playing time in 2018 due to a couple of injuries.
sf52
So all of the sudden Eloy is a defensive liability? He can’t be any worse than anyone patrolling the outfield now.
Their best defensive outfielder can’t hit.
The poor Sox have just been historically plagued by terrible ownerships.
imindless
Looking back white sox got fleeced. So tired of hearing about prospects and that mike trout should be delt, this is a clear case where prospect equate to literally no value. For every juan soto or acuna there are dozens of nobodys.
RedRooster
Moncada is 23 and Kopech is even younger. Tommy John surgery is not the career ender it used to be. A little too early to call this a fleecing and the Red Sox have to win a title this year or next year for the trade to be worth it.
Angels won’t contend in 2019 or 2020 so it would make the most sense to take what they can get for Trout, hope they hit on the prospects then re-sign Trout after 2020. Similar to the White Sox with Chris Sale.
Priggs89
I’m going to go ahead and say it’s WAY too early to “look back” at that deal and make judgements. And Moncada still has value at the major league level despite struggling this year.
jbigz12
The White Sox got the #1 prospect in baseball and a another top 20 prospect in all of baseball. They didn’t get fleeced. 99% of the top players in Major League Baseball were top prospects. Some bust, some don’t. What’s your solution? Keep chris sale? Have a garbage team around him but hey we got chris sale, right?
sf52
Moncada was East Coast hype to help the Red Sox pump him up. Why was Dombrowski so willing to trade Moncada but not Devers?
And Kopech with his PED suspension and his other anger management issues was a headache the Red Sox didn’t want to bothered with.
Reinsdorf refuses to spend on his own top-notch talent evaluators so he thinks he’s slick by letting the other orgs do tbe work.
That’s how you get played.
There reasons why they’ve been to the post season 5 times in 37 years and none in the last decade.
But Reinsdorf has a ton of apologists.
RedRooster
Reinsdorf will look pretty smart in 2020 when the White Sox have Sale, Moncada AND Kopech!
Priggs89
You could’ve at least used Benintendi to attempt to prove your useless point… Devers has been every bit as bad as Moncada this year, if not worse.
frankf
Well that was quick.
cwsOverhaul
It would appear so far, but until Sale is good beyond August, he’s the same Apr-Aug ace who runs out of gas. RSox need him to prove he can be an ace in money time.
cwsOverhaul
Speaking of wearing down, Jordan Stephens may earn Kopech’s vacant spot next year. He was very good during ST and in minors before falling off a month ago. Cross fingers Dunning recovers well from his injury where he and Cease have a shot to join rotation mid-2019.
IronBallsMcGinty
Well this is a craptastic ending to a gloomy day. Hopefully he has a speedy recovery and comes back strong.
lioneyz
With his current mechanics it just was a matter of time. Fortunately he’s young, will get this out of the way early and then return even stronger.
jints1
Should have kept him in minors.
Djones246890
It would’ve eventually happened, at some point.
22222pete
I felt something was wrong in the Red Sox game. Command was off although velocity was decent. Arm slot might have dropped a bit as well. Wheels fell off the nect one.
So much for teams/players beating TJS with training. Seems it’s spiked since rash of TJS declining articles earlier in the year
Cat Mando
It hasn’t really declined for an extended period since first reaching double digits in 96. The first surgery was in 74….here is a count by year starting in 84…….1984 (2)…. 85 (2)…. 86 (5)…. 87 (1)….88 (7)….89 (6)…. 90 (5)…. 91 (9)…. 92 (5)…. 93 (7)…. 94 (9)…. 95 (8)…. 96 (11)…97 (9)…98 (9)….99 (16)…. 2000 (24)….2001 (26)…. 2002 (38)….2003 (29)….2004 (32)…. 2005 (13)…. 2006 (10)…. 2007 (7)….2008 (8)…. 2009 (8)….2010 (11)….2011 (29)….2012 (46)….2013 (25)….2014 (30)…..2015 (30)…..2016 (20)…..2017 (19)….. 2018 so far (30)
The spike in TJS correlates with the emphasis on speed and kids pitching way too much and year round. By the time they reach pro ball damage has already started.
In the early 2000’s a study was done examining medical procedures done of 15-19 year old kids. At that time less than 20% of all TJS was done on them. It has risen to the point that now 75% (according to a study announced a few months ago) of all TJS are performed on kids.
sf52
Excellent post.
greatgame 2
Hes lucky this didnt happen a month ago while he was making minor league money
axisofhonor25
Eerily similar to Strasburgs season ending TJ during his first year. Guy came out the gate with a blazing fastball and called strikes throwing high velocity curveballs and a change up at about 90. I think I recall he reigned it back a bit on his return. Hope Kopech returns alright.
gomerhodge71
Ouch! Not unexpected, considering the way the kid throws, but this and the news of Ohtani in the same week is just awful.
SupremeZeus
The White Sox rebuild has suffered some injury and lack of development setbacks. No great, Bob!
simschifan
Rebuilds don’t happen overnight. Relax. Two of their best prospects aren’t even up yet. Not to mention they will have payroll space and probably a decent rotation to build on. That Division will be up for grabs after this year. Cleveland will be losing a few players to free agency.
KF
“obviously, potentially”