Mike Scioscia is stepping down from his post as Angels manager, the veteran skipper announced to the media (including Bill Shaikin of the Los Angeles Times and MLB.com’s Maria I. Guardado) after the Halos concluded their final game of the season. Rumors had swirled since August that this would be Scioscia’s final year as Los Angeles’ manager, and while there was some indication that Scioscia would retire from baseball altogether, he said today that he would be open to another managerial job with another club.
According to team president John Carpino (via Shaikin and other reporters), it was Scioscia’s decision to not return to the Angels. This doesn’t exactly match last week’s news that Scioscia wanted to remain with the club, as he said he would make his final choice after talking with owner Arte Moreno and GM Billy Eppler. This was the final season of Scioscia’s ten-year/$50MM contract, so the Angels could possibly have felt that change was necessary in the wake of three straight losing seasons.
Still, Scioscia’s 19-year tenure as the Angels’ bench boss has easily been the most successful stretch in franchise history. Scioscia was a first-time manager when originally hired prior to the 2000 season, and he ended up managing the fifth-most games with a single franchise of any skipper in baseball history. He currently sits 18th on baseball’s all-time managerial win list with 1650 victories (against 1428 losses). Scioscia’s resume with the Halos included 11 winning seasons, six AL West titles, and the crowning jewel of the 2002 World Series championship, the first and only time the Angels have hoisted the Commissioner’s Trophy.
Over the last nine seasons, however, the Angels reached the postseason only once, a trip that resulted in an ignominious three-game sweep to the Royals in the 2014 ALDS. Given that the game’s best player (Mike Trout) was on the roster for much of this stretch and the Angels have consistently posted large payrolls under Moreno’s ownership, there have been whispers over the last couple of years that Scioscia wouldn’t be back in 2019, if not sooner. In fairness to Scioscia, however, it’s hard to blame him for the Angels’ recent struggles given that the team has been hit by a staggering amount of pitching injuries over the last three years.
It isn’t clear if Scioscia (who turns 60 in November) will pursue a managerial post immediately, or if he might take a year off to recharge his batteries and test the market. The Reds, Rangers, and Blue Jays are the only three teams known to be looking for new managers this winter, and there has been heavy speculation that the Orioles could also be looking to replace Buck Showalter. It’s possible more jobs could open up in the coming days or even weeks, depending on whether any playoff teams decide to make a change in the dugout.
The Angels will now embark on their first managerial search of the 21st century. As Ken Rosenthal initially noted last August in his report about Scioscia’s impending departure, top in-house candidates for the job include bench coach Josh Paul, special assistant Brad Ausmus, and Triple-A manager Eric Chavez. Fancred’s Jon Heyman wrote earlier this week that Chavez could be the favorite, as he only took over the Triple-A job (moving from his own special assistant role under Eppler) in early August, around the time of Rosenthal’s report. It’s fair to assume that a wider-ranging search could take place, as external candidates are likely to have strong interest in a managing a roster that includes the likes of Trout, Shohei Ohtani, Justin Upton, and other intriguing pieces, though obviously the front office has some work to do this winter to get the Angels back in contending form.
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duke1776
Mark my words he’ll be the Dodgers manager in 2019.
Zach725
Lol
Kenleyfornia74
He couldn’t co exist with DiPoto. He wouldn’t last 5 minuits with Friedman. Not happening
halofan20
Ok Duke lmao
Kayrall
Challenge accepted! Your words have been marked and can be referenced at tinyurl ycg7ddyd. May the best man win.
HalosHeavenJJ
Thank you. Needed a laugh.
JKB 2
Ok Duke. So when he is not you will come on and post that you were wrong? Or just assume everyone forgets
ABCD
Poppycock
Bart
Given the Angels pitching injuries and Pujols/Valbuena, Scoscia did a wonderful job keeping the Angels so close to 500. He is underappreciated by some baseball pseudo-intellectuals.
baron von richter
Truth
Cam
There are legitimate gripes to be made. Giving the majority of PA’s in the #1 spot to Calhoun when he had a .283 OBP for the year (and the second most to Kinsler and his .301 OBP). Then giving David Fletcher the second most PA’s at the #2 spot (.316 OBP)..
Continually batting Pujols ahead of Simmons in the order..
He’s been handed a plate of hot garbage, don’t get me wrong. But one of the few things he can control is the lineup construction, and he’s done a terrible job of it.
Can’t comment on his people-managing skills unfortunately, you and I aren’t in the clubhouse.
fasbal1
Art Moreno needs to step down…
fasbal1
owner or not
trident
Lol
All Baseball No Xabial
So he was and then he said those reports were lies. Sounds like he is the one that couldn’t admit he was lying to himself.
xabial
He won a championship in 2002. He will ALWAYS have that. Sadly, all good things must come to an end. 2019 would have been his twentieth year as their manager.
xela1212
it would have been his 20th with the team and likely his 15th disappointment. let’s not forget Bob Brenley has title, it is not the ultimate measure.
baseball1600
Dodgers are going to keep Roberts. His managing isn’t good, in my opinion, but he’s great at bonding with the players and from what I’ve seen the entire team seems to like him. He just needs to get better at managing his bullpen.
realgone2
POPPYCOCK!
joefriday1948
This of course is the worst news in the history of baseball. Fans are jumping out of the stands and players are burning their gloves. How could the Angles allow this to occur. The man, the myth, the legend will never be forgotten. Will he coach or manage the Ohio Bobcats Baseball Team?
reflect
Like 15 years overdue.
trident
He helped make The Angels relevant but I’m also excited to see who will manage next.
darkstar61
Arte giving them one of the highest payrolls in baseball is what made them relevant. Meanwhile Mike can be argued as having held them back from what they should have been over the time; between his guys not performing to expectations and his being the driving force for many of the bad transactions they made.
joefriday1948
This of course is the worst news in the history of baseball. Fans are jumping out of the stands and players are burning their gloves. How could the Angles allow this to occur. The man, the myth, the legend will never be forgotten. Will he coach or manage the Ohio Bobcats Baseball Team?
darkstar61
So much for those stories being “poppycock”
About time this decision was forced onto him though. The team has under performed most seasons since 2002 under him, and his conditioning philosophy has been disastrous on pitchers. The team might actually have a chance in 2019 with him now gone
metvibes
Please not the mets let him go to washington ,texas, reds, toronto any where but the Mets most overated manager ever.
Harry pness
I can see him in a Toronto uni, or baltimore
thecoffinnail
Exactly what I was thinking. Toronto seems to like managers similar to him. Farrell, and Gibbons both seem to have similar approaches to managing. If Duquette stays in Baltimore I doubt he will let another head strong manager who insists on making decisions on player acquisition. Buck and Dan reported never really cared for each other. My guess would be that he will try to hire his own Aaron Boone type of manager. I could see the Reds going after him though.
Harry pness
Maybe even Texas too since Mike knows the west pretty well? It’ll be an interesting off season. Maybe the most intriguing off-season in quite some time
xabial
Let me be the first to throw Joe Girardi’s name out there. Stand firm in my prediction. Great situation, if the roster stays healthy in 2019.
Old User Name
Joe would be great for the Angels.
driftcat28 2
I could see this too. The angels have good pieces, it could be a nice fit
jdgoat
Eric Chavez. Eppler put him in AAA to groom him for this job.
Old User Name
JD… Eppler and Girardi have history. Could go either way.
jdgoat
True
fasbal1
Everyone keeps throwing Girardi name out as a potential replacement for all the openings even though he is marginal at best. People will point to his success with the Yankees, but as we have seen anyone can manage that team and win.
Old User Name
And point out Manager of the Year with Miami.
JKB 2
Yankees have not won anything yet but a wildcard
thecoffinnail
I have the opinion that is Girardi returns to managing he will go to an NL team. I think he is going to take a few years off though and wait for an opening of his choosing. Girardi’s biggest flaws were taxing his pitchers which the Angels can not afford and his inability to connect with young players. Since the Angels are now led by 20 something’s Trout, Simmons, Ohtani, and Upton who all seem to enjoy more of a laid back approach to the game, I don’t see them meshing with Girardi. Especially, if he does what he did in Miami and institute the same grooming policy that the Yankees have. Pujols, Upton, Heaney and other’s night take issue with it. Don’t get me wrong, I love Girardi but he needs a team like the Rangers with a clubhouse full of veterans. He has always seemed to prefer working with veterans and he brings out the best in them.
thecoffinnail
Sorry, I didn’t realize I had written a novel there.
xabial
Girardi’s biggest flaws are “taxing his pitchers”? What does this mean. In my opinion, Girardi was the best bullpen manager in the game, but haters will point to the Yanks’ historically strong bullpen.
“Inability to connect with young players.” Lol Like Mickey Callaway?A manager’s job is not to be a player’s friend. You do realize Boone is a worse manager than Girardi, barring a further post-season run. The Angels would be lucky to have Joe Girardi.
xabial
Btw… Girardi’s nickname he made for Hicks’ was the nickname he used on the back of his jersey for 2018 Players’ Nickname weekend. Even gone, Girardi’s still felt lol
And how did Sanchez fare this year, with Boone, the lovable one?
Harry pness
Eric Chavez time
angelsfan4life
For the love of god no.
Bowadoyle
I would love to see him come to PHILLY.
hk27
That would be interesting: in terms of temperament and style, I’d suspect Scioscia would be quite the opposite of Kapler, in the sense of being very “conservative” (that is not being very open to novelties and experimentation), having excellent rapport with players, and keeping clubhouse stable. It might be a combination that works for a team like Phillies, thnough. Plus, I could imagine other than the SoCal teams, Phillies might be the one team Scioscia might be willing to choose, being from the area and all. How Scioscia and Klenthak would work with each other is unclear–Scioscia had a lot of issues with the Angels FO a few years back, and, although most of the issues were linked to Dipoto, Klenthak too was part of the FO crew back then…
socalbball
The reports out here in LA at the time were that Scioscia didn’t get along with Di Poto and Servais, but had a good relationship with Klentak. But I can’t really see someone who would hire Kapler turning around and hiring Scioscia, unless Klentak decides that a completely different approach is required.
greatdaysport
Class manager. Dipotto stuck the team with fragile pitching and questionable signings. Oh to have had Eppler here two years earlier!!
Erick Chavez has worked all year with Eppler. Go Erick. Asmus is a no go.
Thanks Mike.
darkstar61
Top 8 salary in baseball since 2004.
Over those 15 years they went to the ALCS twice. In the other 13 years they have 1 single playoff game win and a 1-12 record. All that money for all those years and only twice could they manage winning games in the post season.
And you can’t blame Dipoto for the bad players when Dipoto was forced out because Scioscia and Moreno were deciding who should and shouldn’t be on the club without Dipoto having any say in the matter. If you hate the decisions made, then you hate the decisions of Arte and Mike, not Jerry.
Lastly, an injury (esp TJS) in the past is zero indication of an injury in the future unless poor strength and conditioning practices are present post the first injury. And basically ALL Angels pitchers have had major injury issues for years and years of Scioscia in charge of the system. That includes internal guys, guys acquired without injury histories, or guys who had suffered injuries sometime in their past. No one was safe, and it’s lazy and dishonest to try and act like it’s somehow just a horrific medical team too dumb to recognize injuries in guys arms (which is apparently what you feel is going on with the Angels – that the club has such a shoty medical staff that they are flat out unable to recognize when guys are hurt)
angelsfan4life
Actually not all of is to be blamed on Jerry Dipsnot, but he does get a big part of the last few blame. Skaggs and Heaney both had history of being on the DL in the minors with elbow soreness. So the signs on both of them were there. The Angels having the worst farm system in baseball, was clearly on him. Just look at Seattle’s farm system now. Dipsnot is still trading for injury prone pitchers in Seattle.
Djones246890
19 years. Wow. Just wow. All respect to you “Don” Scioscia.
Kingmojo101
So if Scioscia is out, does the entire coaching staff leave too? I want to see what kind of staff Eric Chavez can build if he’s the front runner for the managerial position.
GeoKaplan
A coaching staff is hired by the front office, often with requests from the manager. Angels fans will recall when the front office fired Mickey Hatcher—one of Scioscia’s Dodgers mafia—over the objection of Scioscia. Hatcher, Griffin, Ebel, and others were all from the Dodgers system like Scioscia, but were hired on his request and recommendation by then-GM Bill Stoneman.
Eppler will make the choices of which coaches will be retained or released, but the musical chairs today with Griffin, Ebel and others taking various roles in the game may indicate a swan song for many of those coaches.
todda1
I don’t understand how Ausmus could be a candidate.
Kingmojo101
He is special assistant to the GM and that basically throws him in as a candidate for the job.
thelyonhearted
As a fan of the losing Giants in that 2002, I can still say congrats to a great tenure and a class act of a manager. Never underestimate Italian catchers as managers…they know how to play the game right.
Ully
Great manager, this is the last of the old school baseball managers. he loved the bunt and moving runners over.
Dutch Vander Linde
HIDEKI MATSUI!!
astrosfan
Welcome to Arlington Mike. You can turn things around for the Rangers
Dutch Vander Linde
Mets should fire Callaway and hire this guy
thecoffinnail
If the Mets get healthy I think Callaway is going to surprise you. There is a reason he was on several teams radar as a candidate. Working under Francona has to have helped him learn how to be a good manager. It’s his first year and he had a ton of injuries to deal with. The Mets need a GM that knows how to build a modern day team. I think they should offer the President of Baseball Ops job to Jed Hoyer and then just stay out of his way.
jb226
I don’t mean this to sound as rude as it’s probably going to, but what exactly does it mean to “step down” from a job for which your contract has run out and you aren’t being brought back? No reason to couch reality in flowery nonsense. You played out your contract, the team is going in another direction. Nothing wrong with it.
Honestabe
Maddon could become available in a manner of days.
lazorko
Oh don’t tease us Angels fans like that. We would love to bring Joe back home.
JKB 2
Why would Maddon become available. Because he managed the Cubs to the best record in the league …. again … but Milwaukee did the same this year?
thecoffinnail
Maddon 2019 was released on Aug 7th. You can get used copies at GameStop by now. That is the only Maddon as any team is going to get for a few years.
Angelfanforlife19
Good bye and good luck and thank the heaven he’s gone. Now let’s save trout!
Dirt1955
Mike Scioscia’s legacy will live on with another team. The Dodgers let him get away when he was in their farm system. They’ll never get him back. The best fit for him is the St Louis Cardinals. They need to beat the Cubs, Scioscia and the Cardinals Vs Madden and the Cubs – Classic.
JKB 2
But the Cardinals just extended their manager
nutbunnies
Scioscia should be commended for his tenure, but the guy was out of touch a decade ago, much less now (see: treatment of Mike Napoli). Maybe the Orioles would take him, but I feel like most clubs would steer clear.
jimmertee
I agree that most clubs are going to steer clear of Scioscia. He is a control freak and micromanages every aspect of the game. I don;t like his winning track record either.
The game has passed him and perhaps if he can catch-up a club will take a look at him. Of course if a club needs a good ole boy to come in a kick butt for 1/2 season he might get hired a a favor but that would be about it.
Today’s players need a modern style manager of which Scioscia is not.
Guest617
19 yrs in LA!! take a year off, your wife prolly wants a vacation
TribeGuy 2
Chavez? Opening Day I bet he would figure out a way to land on the 15 day DL