Per a tweet from Marc Carig of The Athletic, Yankees lefty CC Sabathia has decided to play next year. Though he’d indicated early on in the season that he might retire under certain circumstances, more recent statements from Sabathia had suggested he’d like to play another season. Most notably, he’d said he was taking a start-to-start approach to see how he felt, as his ability to pitch in 2019 would probably be contingent upon the health of his troublesome knee. Sabathia has continued to be a useful pitcher for the Yankees; across the past two seasons he’s taken the mound for 55 starts while posting a serviceable 3.73 ERA. There have been some small signs of decline, such as his dwindling innings per start figures across the past three seasons (Sabathia’s only averaged 5.28 innings across his 28 starts so far in 2018), but it seems reasonable to think that even if the Yankees decided not to bring him back, some team would probably be willing to pay for his services next year. That’s notable, considering Carig’s mention that Sabathia intends to play “even if it means signing with a team other than the Yankees.”
Now for a pair of notes related to the Yankees’ chief AL East rivals…
- In his latest piece for The Athletic, Eno Sarris takes a deep dive into the statistics in order to answer an interesting question: does Dave Dombrowski have a bullpen problem? Dombrowski, of course, has a track record of success wherever he’s gone throughout the course of his lengthy career (and indeed has helped this year’s Boston team to a stunningly successful campaign). But whether by shortcomings or simply coincidence, the current Red Sox and former Tigers GM has had to answer for poor bullpen production from both of those teams. Notably, Sarris points out that Boston’s bullpen ranks in the bottom 20% of all MLB teams since the club did not acquire a reliever at the August deadline. Of course, it should be noted that one of his first moves as the club’s GM was to acquire Craig Kimbrel, who’s been a fantastic success. And it’s not as though Dombrowski hasn’t made other key moves in the past couple of years to acquire bullpen help; Carson Smith and Tyler Thornburg were headline acquisitions but simply haven’t worked out as fans may have hoped. Overall, Sarris’ piece is quite interesting, and comes with the added benefit of a player-by-player breakdown of the club’s relief corps.
- Also for The Athletic, Chad Jennings writes about how three infielders in the Red Sox organization have helped shape expectations about second basemen. Brandon Phillips, Ian Kinsler and Dustin Pedroia have all enjoyed paramount success throughout their careers. “We’re all different in our own ways,” Phillips said. “We’re all productive, and the way we approach the game, we all went out there, and we swung that bat. That’s what we do. We swung the bat.” The piece provides some entertaining insight into the pasts of these three players, and is well worth a read in its entirety, particularly for Red Sox fans.
edreed20
Love cc but hope we don’t resign him again
southbeachbully
The right question to ask is, if not CC then who? Right now Tanaka, Severino and Gray are the only starters with a sold body of work under contract for 2019. Assuming they don’t want to bring back Gray then that means the Yanks will have 3 open spots for next years 2019 rotation.
I’d rather they not make a play for Kershaw. Corbin would be a great target. We can try and bring Happ back but would the Yanks want to give him more than a 2 year deal? I’m sure they’ll be teams willing to go to at least 3-4 years, especially if he ends up pitching in post-season at a high level.
Internally, we have Sheff, Germain, Loisaiga, Adams and perhaps, Mike King. I’m all for giving at least 1 spot for one of those guys to earn in ST but we also have to remember, we’re in world series or bust mode right now. Can we afford to give the kids more than 1 slot?
As long as CC accepts a small 1 year deal then I’m all for bringing him back just to solidify a spot.
Begamin
You wouldnt want Kershaw if he is available? Why not? A SP team shouldnt go after the best pitcher in the league? I say go after him and Corbin and call up Sheffield. Trade Gray or move him to the pen permantely
Begamin
*permanently
also forgot to say to let CC walk
southbeachbully
I’m concerned with Kershaw’s health. His current contract has 2/$65 left on it. If he opts out i’m going to assume he’s going to demand something in the 5/$150 range covering his age 31-35 season. That’s when pitchers start to regress. If he were 100% healthy then I’d probably sign up for that. However,. he’s had several back issues in the last few years and has over 2,000 IP on that arm. Those are huge warning flags for me. I’d rather not see them take that risks.
jdgoat
The Yankees won’t be able to pay their guys if they keep on getting guys like Kershaw and Stanton. Might not make sense down the road
thegreatcerealfamine
Do you realize how much salary those two would take up?
deweybelongsinthehall
Agreed and CC has been much more than serviceable. Most teams would love his overall stats for a back of the rotation starter. While his inability to average 6 innings a game is a flag, it’s partially explained by pitching on Yankee Stadium and in the AL East.
eileenyankees9
BEG, They will have to try to get rid of Gray already!!
Geeze!! So nauseating, even though he said he was one of the best pitchers out there. LOL
A Question if I may??
If the Yanks get Machado and he plays third wanting to be on the Yankees so bad, and Andujar plays first, will they let go my hero, Luke??
Andujar will still have to catch the ball and THROW TO SECOND FOR A DOUBLE PLAY, LOL. Oy Veh
Also. Maybe Bird is not such a hitter as they thought?
Cashman has more work to do as ever in 2019.
Thanks Beg, or anyone else’s
thoughts on this also.
eileenyankees9
He has one heck of a bad back, or is it his shoulder, lol, Look at David Wright
with his back, If the Yanks
went for Kershaw, he would be on the DL more than the mound!!
southbeachbully
I would say Cashman has to work on the rotation. I don’t see there being any “must address” issues elsewhere. He’s done a great job putting this team together.
Bocephus
First, Left, and possibly Catcher.
Polish Hammer
Let CC walk? More like make him run…
Begamin
+south
His health is a fair point. I am quite concerned with that as well. However, even in injury riddled seasons he still delivers an elite amount of production, which i think needs to be considered. I think the salary is neither here nor there now that the Yankees are under the lux tax (which if i have this correct, allows them to sign large contacts without getting penalized. Am I wrong here: The lux tax only penalizes you if you sign players while above the tax? I am not entirely sure how the lux tax works its just that from my understanding the Yankees FO have been trying to get back under so they can make a big splash without a big penalty).
His age is another fair point. However, isnt Corbin also hitting 30? Isnt Keuchal (or however you spell it) already there too?
+JDGoat
Yes, but you can say the same thing whether or not they sign anybody with how much young talent they have on the team right now.
+cereal
Yes.
Its much cheaper than potentially spending 700M on Harper and Machado. ~150M for Kershaw and ~100M for Corbin is much better than ~250-300M for Machado and ~300-400M for Harper. Not to mention that they actually fit the Yankees biggest needs.
(note that i do not mean that AAV would be less than Harper+Machado, but rather total money spent)
+dewey
CC has definitely been more than serviceable. I just think that if the Yankees really want to upgrade the rotation it has to start with letting CC walk/retire. He is not a terrible fallback option for the back of the rotation though.
+eileen
I dont think the Yankees will acquire Machado. If they do, i believe it will be a giant misstep especially when you look at how much they need pitching compared to infield help. I think Luke and Bird will battle it out in the spring. If Luke hits as well as he is right now he will safely become the primary 1B in 2019. However if he regresses a bit and Bird starts hitting better I think they will form some platoon. Switch between RHP/LHP as well as going with the hot hand and switching when one gets cold. I do not think we will ever see Andujar at 1B. He has defensive flaws as a 3B, but he has a solid base to improve on (a plus arm being very important for the hot corner)
southbeachbully
It’s arguable if they need to “work” on those positions.
LF Options- Gardner, Frazier or Stanton,
C-They are set at catching but need Sanchez to work on blocking and fix his swing. No way do I see them trading Sanchez or moving him to DH. Austin has 1 year left of control.
1B they have Voit or Bird.
The only FA I think MAY make sense is Harper if he can play LF or would be willing to move to 1b. His swing is just meant for NYS. Machado I think is unneeded. Much better glove than Andujar but I think the Yanks would take advantage of the fact that they can probably have Andujar for $50 mil (5 years of control) including his arbitration years.
Yes, the Yanks lux tax is reset but I don’t think they want to continuously go over it. in the next couple of years they’ll have a ton of guys who will most certainly demand $10s of millions per year during arbitration, etc.
I think Andujar, Sanchez and Bird are guys full of pride and will work hard over the winter to sure up their weaknesses. Pitching however, is a major persistent issue with the Yanks. I would not be shocked if they signed two major FA pitchers.
eileenyankees9
Bo,
Voit, Gardner and Clint Fras platooning maybe if Gardie is still here. then Maybe
Jeter will deal us
Realumuto, sorry, forgot how to spell that.
thegreatcerealfamine
Kershaw is gonna cost way more than that if he even gets on the open market. Corbin is gonna cost more than that also, and first still needs to be filled.
eileenyankees9
Beg,
I am totally in awe the
way you created your post.
I also hope the
spelling of awe is correct.
Back to you! Thank You so
much for replying to all of us or most with classy answers.
Also, I am hoping that Cashman gets some good starters instead of throwing out money on players we do not need.
Voit will battle Bird for first base,
but Bird will never be as
consistant as Voit, but in life,
one never knows!
I guess Gardie will platoon with Fraser for left, if Gardie is still here, I hope!
Thanks again, you’re
awesome!!
Begamin
+south
I agree with your assessments on LF, C, and 1B.
I am a bit concerned with C. Frazier, though. Reoccurring concussion problems is nothing small. It ruins careers.
There does seem to be an open spot for Harper on the Yankees 2019. However, I dont necessarily think a place for him to play is a need. The Yankees offense is 2nd in team runs per game over the course of the season. They would have also already broken the record for most HR’s by a team in a season if it werent for some injuries to their HR hitters. With that being said, I dont think there is a need for them to spend a minimum of 300M for a HR hitter. If the Yankees offense was lacking I would be all for it, but with the way their roster is constructed they need to spend their money on SP, then RP (relievers have regressed, some are becoming FA, and others have had injury concerns. Not to mention they traded two of them as well), and then worry about offense.
I dont think the Yankees will go crazy every year for the next 3 or anything just because the lux tax is reset. I do think they will put a lot of money into SP this upcoming offseason. I imagine it would look like the 2009/2013 signings but strictly pitching. Then they will go back to being quiet for a while. Jacoby will eventually come off the books, Tanaka only has two years left as well. So there are some big salaries that will come off the books. They should be able to reasonably afford to keep all the players they want come arbitration time. I think they will have to accept being slightly over lux tax for the next few years or so if they want a WS with the way this roster is constructed.
I agree with your last paragraph.
+cereal
How much are you pegging Kershaw to make? 40M AAV for 10 years at 30 with injury concerns? Noo way. Im was looking at 150/5 or 140/4. Teams have gotten smarter. With the way signings have gone over the last couple years (last offseason especially) i seriously doubt that anyone is going to get a 10 year contract at 30 with a crazy high AAV. So many teams have been burnt on those before that they are no longer willing to go that route. Younger guys like Machado and Harper are players that teams are willing to take the risk and give a big contract to. But past 30, i see 6-7 years max but then at an AAV of 30 with the contract being front loaded (so something like the years 6 and 7 will be much cheaper than years 1-5. Somewhere around the ~20-25M AAV mark) So, maybe something like ~200-215/7?
Do you also think Corbin is going to land some record setting figure with only one impressive year since coming back from major injury stints? Keep in mind he is also 29, soon to be 30. I think he can continue to be very good, but I doubt he is going to command 35M AAV. 30M AAV max.
Also, no offensive position really needs addressing when the team has the second best offense in the league. Voit and Bird are fine. You can put a can of soup at 1B and the team will still have one of the best offenses in the league. To spend a significant amount of money there would be absolutely foolish.
+eileen
Your spelling of awe is correct.
It remains to be seen if Voit can keep up this level of production. It also remains to be seen if Bird can re-establish his footing. I think its much too early to declare one player more consistent than the other. Neither of them have hit 1000 PA’s yet, nevertheless 1500 or 2500 PAs. I am not sure Gardy will remain on the squad. While personally I wish for him to be a Yankee for life, even in a more reserved role, the Yankees havent been fielding him out there as of late, which is concerning for his likelihood to find himself back on the roster. Maybe they he will come back at a discount instead of his team-option rate. But the Yankees should bring him back at least for depth purposes in order to avoid having to field a Shane Green if injuries to come back to haunt the OF.
User 4245925809
Agreed. If Price can get 200m spread over 7y, was 2y older and not the same pitcher.. Kershaw gets at least that much.
Begamin
*oops, just realized i said Shane Green and not Robinson
eileenyankees9
Beg,
Thank for telling me
Awe was spelled correctly.
I had a big smile on myy face
If Gardy is not there
next year. that will be heartbreaking for all.
I would take him back
in any capacity.
I am so sure you know
as well as I do that his running, speed and fielding
are the top of the line.
Maybe after 14 years, they they will keep him in some playing capacity, like platooning with Frasier.
I read that Yanks will try to maintain Cutch, so the outfield will be Stanton,
Cutch and Judge, but how can they ever do away with Hicks who really carried them also with the best year ever?
That bothers me or am I missing something, lol,
we didn’t even play
the WC yet. so I need to chill.
Great Chatting with you
lovethatdirtyh20
Cereal #halcare may not want the payroll to go that high after winning 100 games ans staying under the cap.
cvsailor
I like how you basically call Jeter a Yankee plant. Does that make the Marlins another Yankee farm team?
queensburykid
How do you trade Gray? It would not get Yankees much return. Almost a minor salary dump.
Phanatic 2022
By going below this year it resets. So if the go above next year they are only paying 20% versus the 50% they paid last year for every dollar over
eileenyankees9
Montgomery is coming back from shoulder surgery I hope and I am sure they will offer something to Happ, I pray, and Cashman loves Corbin!!
CC is almost done, he just about makes it to the 5th b4 giving all the runs back that the Yanks score.
Bocephus
Montgomery is coming back from TJ surgery. “and Cashman loves Corbin!!” now where in the world did you see or hear that?
southbeachbully
Montgomery probably won’t be back until after the all-star break.
southbeachbully
Trade rumors surrounded the Yanks and Corbin all of last winter. It’s likely that Cashman would want him as a FA.
Bocephus
Cashman never said that anywhere was my point. It would be unethical for him to comment on his preference for an upcoming FA player. That’s considered tampering.
eileenyankees9
Where in the world
did you not see it or not hear it?
eileenyankees9
Thank you SOUTH!!
eileenyankees9
O M G
did you ever hear the expression read between the lines, or do you just think I spoke with Cash on the phone this morning with my morning coffee?? I am shocked from your post, LOL
eileenyankees9
Yes I should have said that, but I answered a post
just wanting to express that he will be coming back.
thanks again
natsfan3437
Not only that but CC is one of the only tables veterans with a winning background from an individual awards and team performance standpoint. They need someone like him in the young clubhouse.
southbeachbully
7 downs for an innocuous post? Ok.
Begamin
+south
Dont worry about the DVs, m8. They’ll DV any opinion that wasnt said by a talking head first. Theres a reason why silly ideas can maintain a hold. A talking head says something and then people parrot it to one another. If you say something outside the echo, you will get DVd no matter how reasonable your post is. For example, it actually makes no sense for the Yankees to go after Machado but its popular with the media to promote the idea that the Yankees should get him so it has been a popular opinion here.
Personally i like the app so you can never see the votes.
eileenyankees9
My thoughts exactly!!
thegreatcerealfamine
CC has been solid mostly in his time with the Yankees, but I’m afraid it’s time to say goodbye.
deweybelongsinthehall
Just disagreed with you Fiber. Questions are what will his last contract cost, who do you replace him with and what is that cost? Depending on the answers I might then reconsider.
eileenyankees9
yes, I agree, and he is so great for the team, but red flag is right. he struggles lately too much. He would
get picked up in a heart beat.
deweybelongsinthehall
EY9. I believe this is the first time we agreed on anything! Hoping for a Sox-Yankee series. 2003/2004 was fun as a Sox fan on Long Island…well 2004 turned out to be fun but until game 5 was over, it wasn’t that much fun. The tide turned after game 5.
eileenyankees9
Dewey, In my brain I agreed with you so many times, but never posted it, now I did.
I actually like your baseball mind, and yes, being from Queens, that series was unreal, all of their games were and are draining but entertaining.
Enjoy neighbor!!
MetsYankeesRedSox
I detect a love connection!
deweybelongsinthehall
Sorry she can do better than me and for those who recall, my wife got dangerously sick in June but is slowly recovering and we’re “stuck” with each other. Thanks for the positive feedback Eileen. I just long for the 10 -11 man pitching staff days without replay challenges because that is the easiest way to curb the length of game issue. Pitchers will also stop overthrowing since they will have to pitch longer and perhaps lessen the number of surgeries.
MetsYankeesRedSox
Wow. Sorry to hear that! Hope she has a full recovery.
eileenyankees9
Hey, hello my pal,
I had lots of fun today on here, geeze all over the topics my eyes are crossed, lol I’m spent!
eileenyankees9
Dewey, I am so sorry about your wife. and hope she is coming along, and glad
you are stuck together.
That is the most important thing in life is health, believe me I know
Keep supporting her.
Thanks for sending me
a post today, it was nice.
See you later!! Have to char
charge my cell and feed my face!
PS, yes no overthrowing, no video tapes, no mound visits
no umpires allowed, lol
lovethatdirtyh20
Dewey best wishes to your wife for a full recovery!
deweybelongsinthehall
Thank you. 6 plus hour emergency surgery. Advice to others: move to the right facility if necessary. This forum helped me get through it.
deweybelongsinthehall
Thanks all. Baseball in perspective makes life so much better.
southbeachbully
The Yankees shouldn’t rush to offer him a contract but I also think it depends on if they can find someone better at the price they want. I’m sure CC wants know more than a 1 year deal at $10 mil or less.
kgreenb363
I’m a Mets fan but glad the Yankees finally learned how to use Sabathia. I was amazed in the last few years ( not last year) how they would push him for an extra inning and it would almost always end poorly
eileenyankees9
Kgreen, that is exactly what Boone did to Betances in the beginning of the year. I felt so bad for him messing up so bad.
daboyz1965
Probably worth a shot to platoon Dat Dude and Kinsler for final 10 games to see who is ready for playoffs
deweybelongsinthehall
Kinsler is the playoff 2Bman plain and simple.
Bert17
Phillips and Kinsler? They’re both right-handed hitters. If Phillips has a shot at a platoon, it’s at 3rd if Nunez isn’t healthy enough to make the roster. Problem is Phillips hasn’t hit since is epic first game in Atlanta and he’s no defensive standout at 3rd either.
deweybelongsinthehall
Agreed. Phillips at this point should be considered an injury reserve after Lin who is more versatile.
fb4150
Too close to 3000k’s to retire
queensburykid
What are the Red Sox going to do next year at second base? Is Pedroia done and the Red Sox are stuck was another bad contract? Kinsler on the cheap? Nunez with his shaky defense? Brandon Phillips too old? Swihart?? Mookie returning to second? Brock becomes a everyday player/constant platooner? Lin on the real cheap? Another free agent? The Red Sox window with Chris Sales is only one more year. This offseason is going be much harder than last season. Red Sox Nation is missing the amount of money this years’ team costed. The luxury tax penalties will increase progressively. 2016 Red Sox stayed under the luxury tax at the expense of prospects. Only Michael Chavis is a major MLB ready prospect.
RedSox4Life4ever
Hopefully with Hanley’s contract coming off the books this year, and Pablo’s next year, it will help ease the financial burden a little.
gomerhodge71
They won’t move Mookie back to second and lose a Gold Glove in the outfield. Nunez probably has the upper hand. I don’t see Phillips or Kinsler returning. Maybe a lower-tier free agent. As long as Bradley can hit .240 and Vazquez and Leon can hit close to their weight, they don’t need an all-star at second, but definitely need a strong glove man.
deweybelongsinthehall
Why not wait and consider bringing back Kinsler depending on cost? Can’t depend on Pedie but even if he surprises, he may DH some with JDM playing OF and it would be a great problem to have. His cost has already been allocated. Holt is too valuable as a jack of all tradesman. Sweihart has been surprising and next year perhaps Leon will be gone so he’ll see more action backing up Vasquez.
gomerhodge71
Don’t think Leon’s going anywhere. He calls a good game, but he’s batting 45 points lower than last season. If they did trade him, it would be for a non-prospect. Kinsler and Phillips are just too late in their careers to consider making them a 140-game second baseman. My guess is they’ll keep their fingers crossed with Nunez and Pedroia and make a deal if that doesn’t pan out.
deweybelongsinthehall
You might be right on Leon but they signed Vasquez So I was just thinking Leon might be expendable. Holt and Sweihart’s versatility are an amazing plus. I just remember all the Sweihart jokes just months ago (myself included). While he’s not Babe Ruth, he has proven himself this year.
lovethatdirtyh20
Doesn’t really matter who gets the 2nd base job. All the Sox need is a complimentary piece next year with Betts, JD, X and AB forming the everyday core. As long as they can play defense and hit a little all will be good.
Hanley’s money is gone. Fats Sandoval will be on the last year. Besides money doesn’t seem to be a problem for the Sox.
jmi1950
Hanley 22MM, Pomerantz 8.5 MM , Kelly 3.85 MM Kimbrel 13 MM that’s 47..35 MM the BoSox have coming off the books and only Kimbrel needs to be replaced. Even losing the rentals — Pearce, Kinsler, Phillips and Evo is no big deal if they get Pedey and Wright back healthy. Right now they have Leon, Vaz, Swihart, Moreland, Pedey,Bogey, Devers,Holt, Nunez, Betts, Beni, JBJ and JD — 13 hitters under contract with Lin and Sam Travis at AAA.. SP’s Sale, Price, Porcello, E Rod, Wright, Johnson & Valasquez ; RP’s — Barnes, Brazier, Workman. Hembree, Poyner, Scott, Thornberg 14 P’s with only a true closer needed. If DD is patient he can always make trades in June once the health questions are answered.
deweybelongsinthehall
Agreed on both pitchers. I got blasted previously as there are great doctors everywhere but there are things we fans don’t know and if Kimbrel’s daughter still needs specialized care, such could be an important factor as that getting every last dollar might not be a priority. Remember Varitek, Papi and Pedie all potentially left money on the table to stay in Boston. The Sox have never been cheap and if both sides want a deal, it can get done. This year hasn’t been Kimbrel’s best but he clearly is the team’s best option for 2019. Barnes is way too inconsistent still and no others vome to mind.
queensburykid
Can the Red Sox compete with the lost of all that talent? Pomeranz, Hanley, and maybe Kelly are gone for sure. Kimbrel will be expensive. Maybe keep Evo and Phillips for depth. Is Pedey able to come back? Pierce and Kinsler were good pick ups, but they would want good money. New catcher? Smith is gone and maybe Thornburg too. Can Holt, Lin, Travis and Swihart make a decent bench? All the Arb players are going to get big raises. This off-season is going much more active than last year. They are going to lost some decent talent for sure because of their payroll. Payroll willingness will how much?
JoeyPankake
The A’s have a strong enough bullpen to carry Sabathia through 5 inning starts if he can continue to limit the runs he allows and they have rotation question marks for next season. CC is also from the Bay Area and could most likely be had on the cheap. If the Yanks don’t resign him I’d bet he goes to Oakland.
greatdaysport
Come to Anaheim, where there are no “accidental” and cheap home runs.
gomerhodge71
Sabathia wants 3,000 K’s figuring it’ll be a springboard into the HOF. He’ll probably get in, anyways, having been a Yankee but 3,000 isn’t a guarantee anymore (Curt Schilling).
JKB 2
I do not see him as a HOF’er. Do you?
gomerhodge71
Not a true HOF’er, no. But the “very goods” (as opposed to greats) are getting in more and more and if you play for the Yankees for any amount of time, it earns you points. And with modern times limiting pitchers innings, you’ll be hard pressed to ever see another 300-game winner, so 200-250 will be more of a benchmark.
southbeachbully
Yeah. It’s a shame. I don’t think we’ll ever see another 300 win guy. 100 CG pitcher, 3,500 IP (Done by 70 others, CC needs 45 IP), 3,500 KO, Shoot….we may never see another pitcher with 50 CG. CC and Colon are tied with 38 and there are over 800 pitchers that have completed more than 50 CG in their careers. The closest active pitcher to CC and Colon’s 38 is Kershaw and F. Hernadez with 25 each. Sabathia is the last of the true work-horses.
Cat Mando
Just tracking your point on CG’s. Here are the most CG’s per season in 5 year increments since 1967
67 – Jenkins 20…. 72 – Carlton 30…. 77 – Palmer & Ryan 22…. 82 – Steib & Carlton 19…. 87 – Clemens 18…. 92 – McDowell 13…. 97 – Martinez 13…. 02 – Colon & Johnson 8…. 07 – Halladay 7…. 12 – Verlander 6…. 17 – Kluber & Santana 5…. and this year so far 7 pitchers tied with 2
Free Clay Zavada
3.73 ERA is described as “serviceable” while the much hyped Michael Fulmer’s career ERA is higher than that. Seems like an understatement, 3.73 is very good for an AL pitcher.
RedRooster
3.81 is “much higher” than 3.73?
Free Clay Zavada
That phrase is in quotes yet I didn’t say it…confusing
mikeyank55
And let’s refine that a bit; 3.73 is very good for an AL EAST pitcher.
callingoutdummies247
I find if you take a scoop of ice cream and put it between two pancakes you need to eat it fast otherwise the pancakes get soggy and fall apart
callingoutdummies247
Maybe a spoon would be better than eating it as a sandwich….. thank god I posted
eileenyankees9
lol, too funny, but I would prefer a waffle, so thanks calling, I need ice cream now!!
Jgwi2az
Ah yes, CC, another guy that just loved Milwaukee but had to follow the $$$&
mikeyank55
Do you blame him?
RedRooster
Doubt the Yankees re-sign CC because “they benefited from him opting out.”
thegreatcerealfamine
What are you talking about?
mikeyank55
He will be back. It’s not the money it’s the competition and spirit. Like a lot of players, he will continue to sign contracts with slightly diminished value. He is an incredible player and teammate.
MetsYankeesRedSox
I hope CC plays next year. Gritty guy.
lovethatdirtyh20
Me too. I love his 4 inning starts.
bigcokeslushy
The bullpen has been Boston’s kryptonite. Outside of Kimbrel/Barnes(at times), it’s too inconsistent. If they fall flat in October it will be by way of bullpen
mikeyank55
When they fall flat, not if
deweybelongsinthehall
Still chirping MY55. Your mouth will get clamped shut soon enough.
mikeyank55
Thanks for the sweet wishes Dewey. Not sure which hall you belong in, however it is not in Cooperstown. Lol
deweybelongsinthehall
Certainly does in my view belong in the HOF. Multi tool player who while he didn’t steal many bags was as good a base runner as there was. Set the standard in right at Fenway that Betts has now mastered. Power and average both got better not through PEDs but when it became public that two of his kids were sick. He kept it to himself until then. Always played the game hard and clean.
Guest617
cc’s body frame is similar to a younger bartolo colon
ayeah
“but it seems reasonable to think that even if the Yankees decided not to bring him back, some team would probably be willing to pay for his services next year.”
YEP! The Phillies will be! They’ll be leading the line for one of those other teams wanting CC. Because that is all they look for…cheap, over their prime players who are on the decline from their best years. It doesn’t matter if the can’t hit or pitch anymore, as long as they can get them cheap and be mentors to the team in the dugout.