Cubs right-hander Yu Darvish hasn’t taken a major league mound since May 20, which may prove to be his final outing of the season. Darvish, who has been on the shelf for three months because of triceps and elbow injuries, left his Single-A rehab start on Sunday after throwing just one inning, Matthew Martell of MLB.com was among those to report. Darvish came out for the second inning, but he “was seen wincing” during his warmup, Martell writes, before indicating to the dugout that he needed to exit.
While Darvish had been making progress in recent weeks, this is now the second setback the 32-year-old has suffered since June 28, when he experienced pain during a bullpen session. Darvish’s departure Sunday came as a result of the same discomfort as his previous setback, Mark Gonzales of the Chicago Tribune tweets, adding that his next step is to go for an MRI.
Darvish is still holding out hope for a return in 2018, per Gonzales, but given the nature of his injury and the lack of time remaining in the campaign, that may not be realistic. If Darvish’s season is indeed over, it’ll go down as a disastrous year for someone who was widely regarded as the majors’ top free agent last winter. The Cubs signed the former Ranger and Dodger to a six-year, $126MM guarantee expecting him to continue serving as a front-line starter, but he has instead tossed just 40 innings in eight starts this season and posted a personal-worst ERA (4.95), FIP (4.86), xFIP (4.23) and walk rate (4.73 per nine).
Despite Darvish’s lack of contributions, the Cubs still lead the NL Central by four games over the archrival Cardinals, though it has been a less-than-ideal year in general for Chicago’s starting staff. Like Darvish, fellow established starters Jon Lester, Kyle Hendricks and Jose Quintana have failed to produce great results, with ERAs ranging from 3.72 to 4.46 and a combined fWAR of 2.8 among the three of them. However, they’ve been downright ace-like compared to Tyler Chatwood, another of the Cubs’ disappointing free-agent signings from last winter.
Chatwood, whom the Cubs signed to a three-year, $38MM contract, owns a 5.22 ERA/5.56 FIP with a ghastly 8.23 walks per nine over 101 2/3 innings. The Cubs pulled him from their rotation a few weeks ago, only to start him again Saturday in what ended up as a two-inning, three-run, three-walk performance during a loss to Pittsburgh. Afterward, Patrick Mooney of The Athletic (subscription required) wrote that it’s tough to imagine Chatwood “throwing another meaningful pitch this season.” But whether that’ll be the case remains to be seen, especially considering the injuries to Darvish and effective swingman Mike Montgomery – who went to the disabled list Friday with shoulder inflammation.
For now, the saving grace of the Cubs’ rotation looks to be lefty Cole Hamels, whom they acquired in a trade with the Rangers prior to last month’s non-waiver deadline. Hamels, a longtime front-end starter, was mediocre for Texas this season, but he has been utterly brilliant as a Cub. Across four starts, the 34-year-old has logged an incredible .72 ERA with a 2.40 FIP, 8.28 K/9, 2.16 BB/9 and a 59 percent groundball rate.
Considering the shaky state of their rotation and their surmountable lead on a playoff spot, it’s possible the Cubs will look for more help on the trade market in the coming weeks. It would be difficult to make an impactful move, though, particularly with the NL playoff race being a crowded one and the Cubs behind several postseason hopefuls (including three division rivals) in the waiver pecking order.
Well that wraps up year 1. Hopefully the next 5 get better. Hamels is making this easier to handle though. Dude has been lights out!
But but but I thought Hamels was “done.”
People just regurgitate the narratives fits their agenda.
Same with Darvish, he could be out year-1? Still too early to call the Darvish contract a bust.
Ill call it a bust
Lol No, you want it to be a bust. (ChiSox fan)
10th percentile Southside Chicagoans shouldn’t be allowed to post in intellectual chats let alone reproduce.
anyone who thinks darvish isnt a bust shouldnt be allowed to watch baseball or comment on baseball.
Hello there Mr. Strawman,
Never said he wasn’t. Never said he was. Just said too early to make that call. I’ll stick to watching this game. (Why so triggered?)
Another bad signing by Epstein! It’s Boston all over again. In two years he’ll be gone. But the Cubs will still be paying Darvish
Strauss Give me tomorrow’s lotto #’s or Wishful thinking on your part.
Anyone who can say Darvish is a bust no matter what he does the next 5 years should not be allowed to watch or comment on baseball and that means you Mr. DewSox
And if so they will still have the world championship and core set for more
Yes. Epstein has now made so so many bad deals. Time to call t like it is. Yep, World Series titles but tons of really bad deals and signings.
They always bring up that one measly championship don’t they. Wow one time in 110 years. Like that is something to be proud of.
I’m a south side Chicagoan, I resemble that remark
Themed there are a few teams that would love 1 championship
Yeah Cubs should have never got Epstein… what a loser.
One injury plagued season and the whole thing is a bust? These aren’t the Trib Cubs. The team actually operates competently.
It’s a bust.
its called: pitt,KC,Nats,Pitt
I’m sure it won’t take 108 years for any team to win one. That’s a record that will never be broken. 108 years not winning! Of course if it is broken none of us will be around to see it.
Speak for yourself. I’m fueled by a very precise ratio of ignorant comments and whining on MLBTR threads and you’ve provided enough energy for me to live forever.
Kansas City won the title three years ago
A. Garcia is a puss boy!!!!!!!
Theo Epstein has now made SO many bad moves it’s getting hard to keep track of them. Despite the World Series teams (no small feat) his track record is looking worse and worse each year. This is a team that could have been a multiple World Series team and they now seem to be moving further and further away from that.
Theo has the Cubs in the past 3 straight NLCS so keep trolling
Theo hasn’t necessarily made good moves the last 3 years. The teams foundation he put together was incredible but the additions he’s been making haven’t worked out at all. Aside from signing Brandon morrow and it looks like Cole Hamels he’s been pretty much flopping all over the place. Heyward, darvish, Quintana, chatwood, the Justin Wilson trade wasn’t a real winner. Doesn’t make him a bad GM but he doesn’t exactly have the hot hand right now. He gave up a lot of cash or prospects for a minimal return there. If they win another WS it obviously all goes away.
He got a phenomenal closer for one year for Jorge Soler.
The team has made three straight nlcs and has the best record in the nl. Pretty solid track record to me regardless
Just added Daniel Murphy
Will the Cubs trade him?
I don’t see any way they could trade that contract without eating significant money and accepting a second rate package…
It is very rare to trade a player the first year of a multi year contract.
It’s how the Braves did it.
I’m guessing that was jon hart that did that? His favorite phrase to say is “this kid has a plus fastball and a plus plus charge with a nice plus curve”
Girardi favorite phrase “its not what you want”
it wont happen but tony clark should apologize to the owners for insinuating they were colluding against this years free agent crop. have any of the free agents that took so long to sign, lived up to their deals in year 1? let alone years 2, 3 or 4? maybe just mike moustakas who signed a 1 year deal. i guess arrieta has been decent
JD Martinez has had an amazing year 1 and Cain hasn’t disappointed.
After a slow start, Cobb has started to play up to his standards. Even so, Baltimore did over pay.
Yes Cobb has started to look REALLY good. Even when the results weren’t there it was apparent that Baltimore picked up a pitcher whose stuff is really good.
Many pitchers have really good stuff but that does not always mean they can actually pitch. Cobb pitching well now with the O’s 45 plus games out means nothing
Cobb looks good Now but he also got 54 million dollars. He doesn’t deserve a dime more than that. The market correcting is good for the game. It’s much better to have one underpaid JDM than it is to have a Bunch of albatross contracts running through the league. JD has the opt out so it’s likely he’ll get his money now too. Cain looks good in year one but that’s a 5 year contract, only time will tell. No one regrets not giving lance Lynn a multi year pact. Greg Holland surely didn’t work out. LoMo again flopped. Hosmer and darvish haven’t played well. The MLB needs to pay the young guys sooner because that’s where the insane value is coming from.
If Lynn keeps pitching like he has since joining the Yankees, I can see a 3 year deal for him.
Booooo. You suck for asking that question. JD Martinez is a triple crown threat and leading the Red Sox. You clearly paid enough attention to gripe about the mlbpa comments, you should know who’s playing well.
I had remained cautiously optimistic about Yu long term until now.
If I were the Cubs, I’d be very afraid he’ll miss all of next season as well. This has a second Tommy John’s written all over it.
As a Cardinals fan, I find this hilarious. Cubs fans act like they stuff doesn’t stink after winning only one title after 108 years. Theo is hanging on to all of those position players, instead of trading some of it for pitching. Now it’s haunting them
Cardinals? You mean the guys who don’t make the postseason anymore?
Come on dude. I’m not a fan of either team, but the Cardinals have been one of the most successful franchises this century. The Cubs have the same amount of titles this century as the Royals, Dbacks, Angels, White Sox, Phillies, Marlins, and Astros. The Cubs are nothing special.
The Yankees not winning a world series in 9 years would feel like 100 years for Steinbrenner. It was 9 years prior to that last one as well.
And whatvhave they done lately, except troll here?
exactly. to go farther since 1998 the marlins have more titles than the cubs.
The cardinals are a historic franchise of success. Just like the Yankees who have a million titles. The cubs won one title in 108 years and now fans seem to think they are up there with the cards and yanks. unreal
Bingo!
Correction, the Cubs have won the same amount of Championships as the Astros, Diamondbacks, Angels, and White Sox (by one year, 1917/2005) in the last 100 years. The Marlins, Phillies, and Royals have won two apiece in the last 100 years. This is pretty basic knowledge for your average baseball fan. The only thing I needed to look up was the date of the ChiSox Championship before 2005.
All of that with a payroll approaching $200M. Well done, Cubs and Angels.
The last two years because of injuries mainly. You’re an idiot
Whining cardinal fans need the schildt kicked out of them.
So much stupidity in just one post
I know being a Cardinal fan causes you to suffer from Cubs Derangement Syndrome but Epstein has made several moves,in the past year to try to improve his starting pitching. Quintana has been an innings eater which is damning by faint praise, Chatwood looks like Ankiel did while Darvish, certainly at age 32, was a dangerous risk that looks like a disaster in the making. You are correct if you are trying to say that he hasn’t done much good work but he definitely tried.
Yea epstein is good cubs are good and its frustrating as a cards fan cuz theyre better than us since 2015. Cards have to get better if they want to take back the division. Cubs pitching is getting worse Cards pitching is getting better. Here we come!
Lol the cards couldn’t even sweep the brewers that’s pathetic.
Yes….just awful……oh wait…..this is the same Brewers team that the Cubs just split with at home….
Really? Get some new material…..
The Cubs couldn’t even sweep the Pirates…
How did the cubs do last week against the brewers?
I’m not surprised that a Cardinals fan would celebrate an injury.
Their*
They have the top offense in the league.
They have the best record in the league.
How is it haunting them?
You don’t get that with a rotation that stinks.
Who could they have traded for who you guarantee would have done better?
this whole “best in the nl” isnt really much when all these teams are bunched up.
The Cubs rotation is historically bad. It’s garbage. The Cubs are winning because they are good at other aspects. The other reason is that the NL is overall weak and the best teams are in the AL.
The Cubs have an old, expensive rotation, one of the 2 or 3 weakest farm systems in MLB and the worst team in MLB at developing homegrown pitchers. It could get very ugly in the next year or 2.
As a cardinals fan, it’s commenters like you who give the rest of us a bad name. The cubs are better than the cardinals in recent years. From a purely competitive standpoint, I don’t mind Darvish being on the shelf, but let’s not celebrate injury’s. Also, not all cubs fans are jerks, just like not all cardinals fans aren’t jerks. Let’s be adults.
Gtfoh! Bad name? You’re an idiot
You seem to be proving his point.
Is it just me or do fans of NL Central teams hate other teams in their division a lot more than other fans do?
I feel like on every post I read through the comments and see a Cardinals fan laughing at the Cubs, a Brewers fan laughing at the Cardinals, or something like that.
I think the long run of cardinals success made cubs and brewers hate our team, and thus our fans. The reds animosity has more to do with a brawl involving Molina and Cueto years ago. (Side note, other NL Central teams hate YADI). Cards fans I think get overly defensive by internet troll comments, and we have plenty of our own as well. Just my opinion. When I go To games and meet fans of the other teams, it’s almost always quite pleasant.
Yeah some of these guys care more about bashing each other’s teams than they do about the other teams
126 million is chump change for Cubs. Sign kershaw machado and Harper next year while cards keep letting vets go and rolling out AAA players. Cards fans thought their crap hasn’t stunk since 1968..
In the cardinals defense, their AAA players they’ve called up would be on most teams 40 man.
Um luxury tax buddy. And kershaw isn’t going anywhere
Um dodgers cubs and Yankees will blow past luxury tax next year
As a fan of baseball, I find it terrible you are laughing about an injury to any player.
Well the Cubs spanked the Cardinals out of the post season in 2015 and Cardinal Nation is still very bitter about that
Whether he is suffering from physical problems, mental issues or both, I believe that you can put a fork in Yu Darvish for the 2018 season. Thank goodness that the front office was able to acquire Cole Hamels at the trade deadline and that the veteran actually looks like the ace he once was and what they expected Darvish to be when they signed him to that big FA contract last offseason.
I was thinking of going to that South Bend Cubs game to see Yu on the mound. Glad I passed and spared the disappointment. Fun place to go though. Nice little ball park. Enjoyed it as a kid when it was the South Bend White Sox.
South Bend Silverhawks
Wasn’t supposed to post twice. Sorry.
Darvish conversation:
“I hurt again. Arm sore. Need to sit. Are paychecks ready?”
Scumbag
Stereotypes are funny
*aren’t
Matt Harvey or Gio Gonzalez?
Cubs are going to get another SP in the next couple of days and it’s going to be James Shields from the White Sox for a PTBNL … guaranteed.
Bite your tongue man nooooooo
marshmallow soft
Bet the Cubs wish they had Jake Arrieta at 3/75 instead… Assuming he would have done same deal as Philly.
The Cubs offered Arrieta what they offered Yu. Arrieta declined because he overvalued himself in last year’s market.
Cubs offered Jake more. He was never going back to Chicago.
But Arrieta would not take MORE than that from the Cubs so why would the Cubs have regrets
Thank god this isnt our problem we had enough trouble with scott kazmir lol
Ghastly is right.
Thank Yu for not accepting the Twins offer.
The price for rushing.
Rushing what? Its been 3 months
Rushing? He last pitched May 20th. Get a clue!
Chicago Cubs: how to buy a whole rotation of aces yet have none
And still be in first place
Glad the cubs are stuck with that boat anchor of a contract…..enjoy!
Yea the cash cow Cubs are really “stuck” now
Just cause they have the cash doesn’t mean this doesn’t hurt
Maybe it’s not a physical ailment, maybe he’s just tipping his pitchers.
Lol
Heyward, Darvish, Chatwood. Dont worry Cubs fans. 2124 will be your year. I can feel it!
We have the best record in the NL. Pay attention.
Yeah, they’re one of the few teams that can afford to waste $65 million dollars per year. Pay attention.
We? Do you play for the cubs. The best record doesn’t count today. It only counts when the season is over. There’s a long way to go and your not even close to the best record in the last 15 games.
I’d say if you’ve ever gone to a game you can say “we”. You may have helped pay for a star player.
So glad the twins didn’t sign him
This cracks me up.
He has not pitched since May. The Cubs have the bedt record in the NL. Yet, haters act like him not coming back is a blow to the Cubs.
I have no faith in Asian pitchers….they all suck
again I doubt you’re a Yankees’ fan.
Tanaka’s been everything we asked for
Well, easy there. Tanaka has been less than asked for—at least in any kk d of consistent way. When he’s on, he’s terrific, but he’s too often off.
this guy needs to retire. hurt every year but still gets paid. i would not have signed this guy with his injury history.
What if in 2/3 years cubs trade darvish to Texas…..circle of life
Yet another bad contract for Epstein. $300MM+ owed to Heyward and Darvish. Doesn’t bode well for his future in Chicago.
Why would it not bode well genius
What’s the matter? All out of blue crayons? Ok, I’ll spell it out for you:
Bad contracts + No championships = pink slip
He’s safe this season, but things change quick when your roster salary grows and you have nothing to show for it.
No championships? Were you in a coma in 16?
Get out your crayons and spell Cubs 2016 World Championship! Ouch that hurts you so!!
Why would it bode well, genius?
Because Priggs Theo’s future is secure … that is why … and obviously you are no genius
Heyward is having an All-Star year, and is one of their most reliable hitters. Please refrain from commenting if you’re going to throw these ignorant comments up there. It just serves as an example that you have absolutely no clue what you’re talking about.
Theo has 4 more years on deal. And cubs will be fine. If Hamels keeps dealing, I bet cubs pickup his option. It’ll definitely be one of highest paid rotations, but stats wise one or worst. Hamels 20MM, lester 25MM yu 21MM Q 12MM chatwood 13MM and Hendricks arb 2
Nearly 100 MM in starting pitching
Cubs fans: Edwin Jackson is the worst contract the Cubs ever gave to a pitcher.
Yu Darvish: hold my sake.
It could always be worse, could be a Brewers fan.
You’re a loser
While all you children are arguing about whose team is better i’ll say that Darvish is obviously done this year, who might be put on waivers that could possibly help them fill his spot? Chatwood is absolutely out of the question. They could possibly stick with Montgomery but he’s hurt somewhat and may need to limit his innings.
Sure am glad the Dodgers didn’t get him
Prediction: Yu undergoes TJ surgery in October 2018. Misses all of 2019. Returns in May/June of 2020. Dude’s more fragile than a Tiffany’s crystal
Darvish got a good contract. Good for him. Not so good for cubs. These are just facts.
When the Cubs acquired Hamels, I thought it was a mistake. I was way wrong!
I could not understand why multiple teams were lining up for Darvish, and willing to pay him ace money… the Japanese pitchers who make it to MLB often were extremely overworked in their younger years, and eventually it all adds up to a point where a guy just can’t stay healthy. The man threw 1,268 innings by time he was 24 in Japan, He hasn’t been right in a long time.
Is it likely the contract will turn out poorly, most definitely, but baseball is a funny game and occasionally a nagging injury or off-field problem finally goes away and the guy finds his former glory again. Highly unlikely with Darvish, there’s just so much mileage on that arm and body already at 32.
There’s nothing that is less intelligent than a Cubs/Cardinals argument.
Cubs should stretch out Chavez and give him a chance to start. As a former starter, he’s since changed his arm slot and been solid bordering on great. Don’t know why no one is talking about starting Chavez… could be the guy they need.
Get Jacob Degrom. Problem solved.
Cubs will go down in history as the team that gave $200+ million to the worlds largest singles hitter (he does play a good right field though).
BROKEN GLASS!
Like panda and Hanley Ramirez Cubs going to have to cut the lost of Chatwood can he go to Iowa maybe next year something can changewatch Hendricks become betternot worrying about his pitiful buddy Chatwood