Yesterday provided a notable turning point for the Nationals, who’ve struggled to build momentum all season long. The organization shipped out a pair of big lefty bats — Daniel Murphy to the Cubs and Matt Adams to the Cardinals — though it decided to keep another in Bryce Harper. While it’s still not impossible to imagine a late-season run, the organization obviously decided it would no longer forego cost savings and prospects in order to maximize its chances.
Here are some notes on the disappointing ballclub:
- Principal owner Mark Lerner penned a letter to fans in which he characterized August 21st as the point at which the time came for the organization “to make decisions that will bolster our roster for next season and beyond.” With an eye to the future, he says, the Nats moved Murphy and Adams to achieve “roster flexibility” and audition younger players. Still, Lerner emphasized, “this is not a rebuilding effort.”
- It’s not surprising to hear that the D.C. organization intends to re-tool and make another run in 2019, of course. The roster is still loaded with high-end talent, with some promising players rising up through the system. But there are many needs to be accounted for in the coming winter, and Barry Svrluga of the Washington Post takes an early look. It’s not a short list, though the club will have plenty of payroll space to work with. As Svrluga notes, Nationals president of baseball ops Mike Rizzo emphasized that the club would reinvest the money it has saved through its dealing into baseball ops, saying: “The money that we are making from the cash considerations goes directly into procuring talent for us to compete in the future.”
- In his other comments yesterday, Rizzo struck a tone suggesting confidence in the future but disappointment in the present, as Mark Zuckerman of MASNsports.com reports. Unsurprisingly, that seems to be the prevailing sentiment around the organization. In terms of the nuts and bolts of the deals that were and weren’t made, Rizzo explained that the financial savings won’t necessarily allow the club to dip below the luxury-tax line. (Additional moves later this month could do so, perhaps, though there’s no clear indication as of yet whether any will occur.) Dealing Harper would have helped, to be sure, but Rizzo says “you have to get a deal that makes sense to trade one of the elite players in the game.” Evidently, that was not forthcoming. (Indeed, as Bill Plunkett of the Orange County Register tweets, the Dodgers placed the claim to block other NL contenders from possibly working out a swap.)
- Most of the above discussion is forward-looking, but there’s certainly cause and opportunity to look back at what went wrong. Injuries were unquestionably a factor, as Lerner noted in his letter, but that hardly explains the disappointment in full. Notably, the Nats have drastically underperformed their expected outcomes by measure of Pythagorean W/L and BaseRuns. Failing to capture wins is a complicated area to address, but the Nationals’ bullpen woes surely are a prime factor. Before yesterday’s roster reckoning, Chelsea Janes of the Washington Post documented the collapse of that unit over the course of the season. It’s a fascinating read that includes a detailed explication of the team’s decisionmaking and colorful accounts of the recent departures of Brandon Kintzler and Shawn Kelley. The piece is highly recommended, particularly for Nats fans.
osfandan
Should’ve dealt Harper. But I bet they wont get half the grief the Orioles did for not dealing Machado sooner.
redsfan48
Baltimore is 39 games out of the wild card so there was zero chance of them contending. That’s the difference.
osfandan
You didn’t understand my comment.
I said for not dealing him SOONER, like last year when we were in essentially the same spot as the Nats as the deadline passed.
2012orioles
It’s still a completely different scenario. Machado had a full year left. What would the nats have gotten for a month of Harper? Orioles completely botched the Machado situation. And it was pretty clear the Orioles would be a bad team this year, and pretty clear the nats should have been a playoff team. It didn’t work out for them, but no one was looking at the nats roster and thinking they should consider trading pieces away.
its_happening
He wasn’t talking about scenarios. He was talking about grief from fans. Your point has nothing to do with his original statement.
RedRooster
I was saying last offseason the Nats should trade Harper for a Major League ready SP
swinging wood
Why would a team projected to be top 3 in the NL trade away their best position player for a starting pitcher when that staff already has some of the best? Makes no sense.
Or are you saying you predicted that the Nats wouldn’t make the playoffs this year? Pretty bold if true.
2012orioles
But there should be grief from Orioles fans because they messed up. Not as much, if any, from nats fans because they didn’t mess up as bad, if at all. Simple as that. My scenarios point out how they are different situations.
citizen
should have traded harper and the rest of the nats at the july 31st trade dealine.. 12 free agents, hardly competing for the division, and they sat on their hands.
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xabial
“Orioles completely botched the Machado situation.”
Huh? Orioles got top-100 for Machado, plus 3 other pieces. He was strictly half-year rental.
They squeezed him every value they could get.
xabial
Honestly, don’t think they could have gotten (much) more had they traded him at the beg.
Narrative pushed by LAD fans, or O’s fans who overvalued their franchise player.
Like Harper more, but Harper’s performance was also inferior to Machado’s. Theoretically, Harper shouldve had lower trade value July 31
2012orioles
For this year… he should have been gone last July (2017). Would’ve gotten a whole lot better of a package
RedRooster
Because clearly their goal was long-term success, which Harper was never going to be a part of beyond this year.
bradthebluefish
The user Citizen is absolutely right. Nats trades some rentals at trade deadline and still aimed for the playoffs. Dumb decision. Should have traded all 12 free agents to be. Now the Nats are going to be out of the playoffs, have less prospects than they could have had, and going to be hit with luxury taxes for not dumping enough salary.
Matt Galvin
Should have not pulled back Harper beacause Dodgers just claimed him to block other Teams from getting him and had no intentions to aqiure but have guys not on 40 man the Nats might have wanted.
lowtalker1
No it was good they did.now they can get started merging from him ie qo accept and trade decline and get a draft piece
gleybertorres25
What?
EndinStealth
Whst language is that?
thecoffinnail
The Dodgers took a risk there. They are trying hard to get under the tax this year so they can spend again this offseason. Had the Nationals stuck them with Harper’s contract I doubt they would have made it. Granted it’s Harper but would one month of a great player like Harper had been worth blowing your entire season plan? The Nats could have taken some competition away from this offseason’s free agents just by letting the Dodgers have Harper. Had it been Murphy I doubt they would have hesitated.
RedRooster
Not really a risk considering the chances of the Nats letting Harper go on waivers were effectively nonexistent.
Blue_Painted_Dreams_LA
That’s sort of bad assumption to make seeing as like any other roster the 40 man consists of some fillers and guys that probably would never get to Washington. Those 40 man guys the Nats would be interested in so would other teams in need of pitching.
RedRooster
O’s actually got a pretty good return for Manny, even as a rental. All the Nats will get for Harper is a draft pick in the 4th round.
mooshimanx
…why would they deal Harper? Whether he’s having a great season or not, players like Harper are iconic and transformative. Re-signing him should be their top priority even if it’s not necessarily likely to happen.
RedRooster
Because trading him is way better than losing him for nothing but an extra fourth rounder and because trading him wouldn’t bar the Nats from signing him.
JKB 2
Why would the Nats get any grief from fans for not dealing Harper last year? Why would they have traded him last offseason when they were built to be a pennant contender this year. Whereas Baltimore was not.
fasbal1
Big city is back in STL…great too see you back
Matt Galvin
Should have not pulled back Harper because Dodgers just claimed him to block other Teams from getting him and had no intentions to aqiure but have guys not on 40 man the Nats might have wanted. Should put him on it again and then have to work out Trade with Team.
Cat Mando
Matt Galvin………What?
The LAD did what many teams do…claim a player and then low-ball the offer. The Nats only had one choice….pull him back. They can’t “put him on it again” and they can’t force the LAD’s to deal.
heater
Harper can’t be protected anymore if he’s placed on waivers since he was pulled back.
gleybertorres25
So if they put him on waivers again, he’s claimed for no compensation.
mooshimanx
Nobody’s going to pay a ton for a month and a half of Harper and the players the Nats would get are probably worth less than the pick from the Qualifying Offer.
It doesn’t make sense to move him.
Thomas Walker
Rizzo was in one of those weird spots for a GM. They were still “kinda” in it. Sell too early, catch grief. Sell too late, catch grief. Look, they had a disaster of a season, in regards to the expectations, but they still have 2 of the best pitchers on the planet, Soto looks like an absolute stud (who will somewhat soften the blow of Harper’s impending departure), Robles, Rendon, Turner, and some studs in the minors. Plus, they have a lot of money over there, so they’ll be just fine. Certainly not the first team, to fall way below expectations.
baseballpun
They’ll be losing an NLDS series again before you know it.
jekporkins
No kidding – they have a great team and think of the money they will have back on the books by not having Harper. They can spend it on two great players for the same price. Their outfield is already set for next year. It’s not like they are going to shut down because Harper leaves.
tsolid 2
Most people called for Dusty’s Head after making playoffs, but I get Martinez gets a pass.
mike127
Agree—there’s a pretty strong reason he was passed over so many times before
iceman35pilot
Dusty has a long and storied history of his teams disintegrating in the playoffs.
Martinez is a first year manager.
Huge difference.
Carrington Spensor
Dusty also has a history of leaving his teams, clubhouse, and relations with the FO and any media that questions him in disarray when he’s fired. Happened with every. team he’s managed.
natsgm
I was actually pro dusty and would have no issue at all in canning Martinez if we could get a veteran manager. But considering how much the Nats suck at hiring managers it probably doesnt matter what happens.
chasbar
Nats need a run of about 27-9 the rest of the way (for 90 wins) to have a real shot at October. I guess the front office doesn’t believe this talented but woefully under-achieving group can do that – even in Harper’s last year. Interesting. I’d like to know how super competitive Scherzer feels about this.
bighiggy
If he doesnt like it, request a trade. Would love to see him come home to the cards. I’d offer Carson Kelly, adolis Garcia, Luke weaver, daniel poncedeleon, Patrick wisdom, alex Mejia, alex Reyes, one of ozzie Smith’s gold gloves, some imos pizzas courtesy of david freese, 50/50 custody of fred bird, the ghost of Albert Pujols past, all the toasted raviolis the city of Washington DC could eat, our triple a manager stubby clapp( who is awesome), one of tony larussa’s DUI’S, wait scratch that last one, and cover all his salary, sound like a deal?
Bubbafatt
Don’t forget the ted drewes frozen custard
baseballfan90
“Nats need a run of about 27-9 the rest of the way (for 90 wins) to have a real shot at October. I guess the front office doesn’t believe this talented but woefully under-achieving group can do that – even in Harper’s last year. Interesting.” That’s playing .750 ball the rest of the way for a team that’s played pretty much .500 up to this point. There’s nothing interesting about that; it’s clearly not going to happen.
chasbar
I think most people would agree that it is interesting that they’re throwing in the towel this early with this much talent and in their star’s final year. 750 ball and even much better does happen, sometimes out of nowhere. The Indians finished last year on a 33-4 run. The Red Sox started this season 17-2 and have also had a 30-6 stretch. The Rockies had that great run at the end of 2007. It is possible for a team with that much talent, or was. Nats fans must feel betrayed.
mmarinersfan
You’re still not understanding the point that he made. Why would they expect a run in which they have a .750 win percentage, when they’ve only played .500 ball to that point? Both those teams you mentioned were playing better than .500 ball
chasbar
No, you both don”t seem to be able to understand the point I made that you shouldn’t throw your fan base in the river in the final year of this talented team you’ve built – and do so 10 days before the deadline – when history has shown that great late runs are possible and do happen. It’s not something to expect for sure, but to sell out now, especially when the Braves and Phillies are so young and inexperienced, is unforgivable – in my opinion.
SoCalBrave
chasbar, let me put it this way, the gNats only needed to go 42-24 after the All-Star break to get to the same 90 wins. Now they have to go 27-9, in a few weeks it’s gonna be 20-2. Do you see the pattern? How long is the front office supposed to wait for the team to turn around? if they’re smart, and they’re not, they will change managers in the off season and get rid off all the cancers in the club house and get some veterans that will change the culture of entitlement that is prevalent there. I would trade Strasburg for MLB ready talent with at least 3 years of control and would not try to resign Harper.
natsgm
Yea no. Not at all betrayed. Disappointed sure. Not even close to betrayed
tigerbreak
Super easy to love this as a Nats hater. Realistically though, the 19′ Nats are still a good team without Harper, Murphy, Gio, etc – add a catcher, a #2-3 starter, 2 solid bullpen pieces and a second baseman and they should be able to contend for a wild card. ATL’s farm is a disgusting embarrassment of riches and will probably make a splash for a top starter (Corbin, trade for deGrom) to pair with their fantastic team, and PHI has a buttload of cash to spend on the FA market to augment their very solid core of youngsters. NLE is going to be a tough slog from WSH, NYM and MIA for a few years.
imgman09
Clean House Nat’s from the GM down,most underachieving team of the Decade to many Managers for continuity,get real
bbatardo
I am mostly curious if the Nats will sign Harper since it probably is money better spent elsewhere but he’s still Bryce Harper
Groggydogs
Why do the relievers that we trade away always perform better than the ones we obtain?
mmarinersfan
I mean, Doolittle, Madson, Kintzler, and Melancon were are/were pretty good
natsgm
Hindsight being 20/20 having Treinan and Rivero would have been incredible for the Nats this year, on top of still having Luzardo.
natsgm
Because the ones we trade are actually good but we cant wait for them to get to that level for us.
Carrington Spensor
Wrote 7-8 weeks ago here that the Nats season was over. If anyone bothered to actually watch the games, it was obvious. Too little pitching. Batting order, and defensive positions changing daily. Illogical pitching changes that had everyone confused. Dispirited players playing for their stats. Understandable.
Put it on Rizzo. He constructed a terrible roster with too many veterans playing for their next contract. With a rookie manager well over his head.
josuph
Put it on Rizzo and Lerner. Every year another disappointment in Washington and every year another scapegoat. But who has been there through it all, disappointment after disappointment?. Rizzo and Lerner. Hell, the gNats even cast some share of the blame for everything on the Orioles because Lerner doesn’t make enough money out of MASN. When it’s always someone else’s fault, it’s probably yours. Hopefully Boras sells them a few more Matt Wieters, so they can completely bury themselves with bad decisions.
mmarinersfan
He constructed a terrible roster? One of the best infields in 2017 with Rendon,Turner, Murphy, and Zimmermann returned. The outfield now had an Adam Eaton that would play every day, with Juan Soto, and Victor Robles (before the injury) on the mend. Their top 3 in the rotation was among the best, and the bullpen with full years from Kinztler, Madson, and Doolittle. He did not construct a terrible roster in any means
SoCalBrave
I’m sure what he meant is that it wasn’t a cohesive unit and that it lacked veteran leadership. Harper and Strasburg, among others, have constantly display a sense of entitlement that has no part in this game.
natsgm
Never seen that from Stras. Havent seen in from Bryce in years.
Carrington Spensor
Also wrote 10 days before the Red Sox swept the Yankees that the Yankees season was over. Awful starting pitching. Inability to beat the top-tier teams. Unqualified manager taking screwball actions daily.
Nats and Yankees peaked in late June / early July. Red Sox losing intensity (knowing Yanks are out of it). A’s and Indians have the momentum. Terry Francona always has his (Cleveland) teams peaking from mid-August on. Like the Indians for the WS. They know how to win, the pitching is there.
Thomas Walker
Any more posts letting us know how awesome you are? We’re all in awe of your ability to see the future.
swinging wood
Given enough time, even Chicken Little can get a call right.
SoCalBrave
sorry to disappoint you, but tons of people made those predictions, it doesn’t take genius to figure those out. you’re gonna have to get your sense of self-esteem from another source.
matt4baseball
Rizzo is doing the smart thing with his recent trade offs and with Harper. Nats have a very good chance to sign Harper in the off season along with acquiring a high draft pick if not. If they decide for a rebuild, they are not going to let the public know until some other team offers a lucrative deal. The Nats have a great TV deal so I believe they will keep the players they have and just pay them when possible. If they don’t accept their offers, there are so many free agents next year it will be easy to replace.
Natsfan77
The Nationals have one of the worst TV deals in MLB. They have been battling Angelos and the Orioles in court to get more money out of the current crappy deal they have. Not sure where you get they have a great tv deal
matt4baseball
Well I’m a rays fan and from that standpoint Nats have a great TV deal. That said The team is very profitable and there will be excellent OF options this off season. Nats have great pitching so the future is bright if you can get Team play every day! Your team doesn’t play well together.
Natsfan77
We don’t need a outfielder. Next year OF will be Eaton, Soto, and Robles. We need to sign a starter and a catcher and bullpen
SoCalBrave
the smart thing would have been to trade them before the deadline, including Harper, if he had any good offers.
GarryHarris
The Gnats have under-performed and I put that on the Manager. I was surprised Dave Martinez was hired to begin with and he’s not the right manager for this team.
thisredsoxfan
Seems to me like its time for Washington to get rid of Rizzo and clean house of the manager and coaches. Martinez and Callaway of the Mets have been disasters!
They never should have hired a manager without any managerial experience either minors or majors! Sitting next to a successful manager in the dugout for ten years does not make one a good manager! Experience does!