If Josh Donaldson is able to return from the DL soon and display some of his usual form, Fancred Sports’ Jon Heyman writes that the Blue Jays might yet be able to trade the third baseman before August ends. In this scenario, the Indians are “perhaps the most realistic landing spot.” Jays president Mark Shapiro and GM Ross Atkins have ties to Cleveland and knowledge of the franchise’s prospects, plus the Tribe was trying to make a splash at the deadline by checking in on big names like Manny Machado and Bryce Harper. Acquiring Donaldson would allow Cleveland to move Jose Ramirez to second, and Jason Kipnis into the outfield to help shore up the Tribe’s outfield depth. Heyman also lists the Cardinals, Braves, Cubs (if Kris Bryant’s shoulder keeps him on the DL), and Red Sox as potential suitors for Donaldson, though Boston seems like the longest shot of that group.
Here’s more from Heyman, via his weekly notes column…
- The Braves “check in on just about everyone” in trade talks and were involved in many discussions around the deadline. While Atlanta swung two deals with the Orioles for Kevin Gausman, Darren O’Day, and Brad Brach, Heyman writes that “the player the Braves really wanted was Manny Machado.” The Dodgers acquired Machado during the All-Star break, and at that time, the Braves weren’t entirely sure they were contenders, so they didn’t make the blockbuster offer to land the infielder.
- Heyman also connects the Braves to Zack Wheeler, noting that they and the Brewers looked to have the most interest in the Mets right-hander. Neither team was close to actually landing Wheeler, however.
- The Orioles originally hoped to land a trade package for Gausman similar to what the A’s received for Sonny Gray at last year’s trade deadline, though as Heyman puts it, “the reality is that Gray was thriving in Oakland when dealt while Gausman has been perpetually average.” Baltimore ended up moving Gausman and O’Day to the Braves for four relatively unheralded prospects, though the O’s saved a lot of payroll space and obtained some international bonus pool funds.
- The Nationals received calls from “about eight teams” about Bryce Harper when rumors arose around the trade deadline that Washington was at least open to considering dealing the star outfielder. Despite the interest in Harper’s services, it doesn’t seem like talks got very far with any suitor, as the Nats were understandably hesitant about dealing Harper whatsoever. The Indians were the only team known to have shown interest in Harper.
- The Athletics added some needed starting pitching by acquiring Mike Fiers from the Tigers this week, though Heyman wonders why the Mariners didn’t block their divisional and wild card rivals by putting a waiver claim on Fiers themselves. The A’s were already known to have interest in Fiers prior to the trade deadline, and since Seattle was behind Oakland in the standings when Fiers was on waivers, the M’s had first dibs on claiming the right-hander. Heyman wonders if the Mariners simply weren’t interested in Fiers actually ending up on their roster, if Detroit had let the claim stand in order to get his remaining salary off their payroll. Of course, an extra arm might look pretty good to the Mariners right about now, given how the team is without a stable fifth starter now that Felix Hernandez is out of the rotation.
- Reds interim manager Jim Riggleman’s chances of winning the full-time job look to be increasing, as team owner Bob Castellini is reportedly “a big fan” of the veteran skipper. Cincinnati has posted a 47-50 record since Riggleman took over from Bryan Price, who was fired after the Reds stumbled out of the gate with a 3-15 start to the season.
cubsfan100
What would it take for the Cubs to get Donaldson
baseballhobo
Donaldson will get claimed long before the Cubs have a chance so it really doesn’t matter.
justinept
Exactly. The Cubs have the lowest waiver priority with regards to Donaldson. Too many teams have a need at 3B (specifically Atlanta and Philly could use legit upgrades there while Cleveland would just Plug Ramirez in at 2B regularly to accommodate Donaldson’s bat). And most importantly, even if the Cubs miraculously won that claim, they don’t have nearly enough need for a player w/ questionable health that they’d go over the luxury cap being him in.
adkuchan
Those teams could claim him, but they still have to agree to the terms on the trade. With his contract and reputation, waiver priority is the least of the concerns.
cards81
yea but I promise the Jays aren’t hoping to get to the Cubs in hope for better prospects…
Ted
But even if another team claimed him and didn’t agree to terms, that would be the end of it. It’s not like the waiver claim gets passed down to the Cubs eventually to negotiate a deal.
A team could claim him simply to block anyone else from getting him. Worst case you get stuck with him for a couple months.
nymetsking
Claim priority is pretty much the biggest factor. Whichever team claims him either trades for him or he stays ROS. No one else can make a trade for him.
adamontheshore
Not really since I’d imagine Toronto will sneak him through waivers before he’s established his health and productivity. No ones going to claim him until they are at least somewhat sure he is healthy.
Chef Dell
I don’t believe a player can be put on waivers while on the disabled list.
Mattimeo09
If Toronto puts him on waivers while he’s injured (if that’s even allowed), a team will claim him. That team would have all the leverage since Toronto probably won’t issue a QO this offseason, and will be looking to get anything for JD.
The return would be better for them if JD comes back healthy and proves he can play. That’s why they’ll wait
indiansfan44
They can place him on waivers while he is on the DL but he has to be healthy enough to play and be sent on a rehab assignment. I would say that the Indians would claim him but they didn’t claim Rodney so who knows.
Bert17
There’s no way Donaldson gets claimed. Name a team that would be willing to risk getting that entire salary dumped on them for a guy who’s always one swing of the bat away from the DL these days.
The Indians are the only AL contender who could even use him, but they’ll wait until they can try to work out a trade where Toronto eats money. what’s left of his $20M salary.
RenoChris
You’re so wrong
JKB 2
Many teams would be wiling to take on Donaldsons entire contract. You are talking 4-6 weeks pro rated. Bug deal.
seth3120
But has he already been cleared? Being injured at the time teams may have been hesitant to claim him if he couldn’t play same as an injured player being really hard to deal
CardsNation5
They shouldn’t have never traded him from the get go. The Cubs need pitching. Theo is trying to hold on to all those position players. It’s going to blow up in his face in a couple of years for doing that. Watch!
adkuchan
Like the Cards holding all those pitches has blown up in theirs?
cards81
how has it blown up in their face? they revamped their bullpen with all their young pitching and have sustained injuries to Martinez and Wacha? so please explain how it blew up in their face?
murphy
Martinez is overrated, Reyes been injury prone.
So yeah.
cards81
lol Murphy so how does holding on to pitchers blow up in their face? Reyes will be fine and Martinez, no matter what you think of him, is still a top ten starting pitcher in the NL…lol your ignorance is showing…by the way how is that Darvish signing going? and that trade for Q?
bencole
By blowing up in his face, do you mean something that comes after the World Series championship, 3 straight NLCS’s, and having the best record in the NL again this year? I mean, even if things go downhill, can that really be blowing up in one’s face? Meanwhile the Cards seem to be not getting to the playoffs again… and not past the Cubs for several years now.
fox471 Dave
Read your first sentence out loud.
JKB 2
@CardsNation5
Cubs have 3 straight trips to NLCS. Looking at 4th straight trip to playoffs and currently in 1st place with best record in NL. Well I guess its not blowing up now!
But something has blown up with the Cardinals. When is the last time they even made the playoffs?
Oh way back in 2015 when the Cubs blew them away!
thegreatcerealfamine
Have you heard Bryant is out for the year?
fisher40
What would it take for the cubs to get Donaldson you ask?? A Deep,Deep farm system which the Cubs do not have
sacball
I’ve been under the assumption that the A’s were statistically behind the Mariners when the waiver claim was made for Fiers…
bradthebluefish
To get Donaldson, someone would have to give up more than what a QO would bring in. Curious if someone would.
jayssaskatchewan
QO less his prorated salary for 2018. Toronto may not be that eager to give a QO either. Donaldson might accept.
CardsNation5
Donaldson will be a Cardinal before it’s all said and done
lesterdnightfly
He’ll be a Cardinal? I’m not sure he’s even Catholic….
sufferforsnakes
Bazinga!
Matt Galvin
But he would claimed by AL Team like Indians,Red Sox before gets to NL.
adamontheshore
Probably not. I’d imagine Toronto would put him on waivers right away and in that case no team would claim him until they saw some promise that he was healthy and productive.
justin-turner overdrive
Cardinals are in the AL? Interesting development.
leavejackburtonalone
The Braves needed to get Machado so the marketing could have went with a play on “Hakuna Matata” and made it “Acuna Machado”.
TrueOutcomeFan
Fist bump
bradthebluefish
Mariners still having money saved from Cano’s PED ban. They shouldn’t have been too worried about Fiers salary.
citizen
yes, someone should get donaldson and have him watch the rest of season from the comfort of a rehab assignment. donaldson could join darvish on the cubs dl. brilliant.
on another note, machado’s oriole war was 4.6 and with the dodgers its .6, results seem mixed, but not great.
emceecee
War is a counting stat so it is influenced by the number of games/plate appearances. Machado had 3.8 fwar with the Orioles this season over 96 games (0.040 per game) and so far he has 0.9 fwar with the Dodgers over 20 games (0.045 per game). Not sure what point you were trying to make with regards to Machado’s WAR, but comparing 2 war numbers from partial seasons with a different number of games doesn’t make a whole lot of sense.
FromTheJuicingEra
Citizen knows nothin bout…
WAR… Huuhhh.. Good God y’all
What is he good for?
Absolutely nothin’
Costanza13
I hope the Jays are rushing Donaldson back. That way they can get something for him.
TradeAcuna
Braves: “We tried to get Machado but they would not take Wisler and Sims”
realgone2
Not that I wanted the Braves to give up a bunch for a Machado rental, but they need to sh*t or get off the pot on being contenders. That BS from yesterday about giving up the game after Sanchez got hurt was lame. Saying they’d rather focus on Brewers because they were in the #1 wild card spot.
johns-11
Who? No idea where he is, let alone will he be playing anytime soon.
Solaris601
If CLE lands Donaldson Kipnis would go straight to the bench and would be used only to spell Ramirez, pinch hit, or as an emergency OF. Kipnis’ arm is alarmingly weak, and when he was in the OF a year ago opposing baserunners routinely took an extra base when balls were hit to him. The guy throws nothing but rainbows when getting the ball back in.
Daver520
Riggleman is a great presence in the Dugout and should be the front runner for the job not only based on his current stint but his history .
BrandonGregory74
I think they need to do a national search but I completely agree
getright11
Keep it regional lol good God of course it’d be a national search. This isnt Wright State
joeshmoe11
This team is severely screwed if Riggleman is manager next year because it’ll be undeniable proof that Castellini meddles in on the field affairs. Riggleman is the epitome of a tired retread. Terrible in-game decisions. The Reds playing better under him is because Price dealt with a crappy roster with injuries and Pennington, Gosselin, Gallardo et al. He inherited a decent team that got healthy
geauxbraves
There was no reason for the Braves to get Machado. I don’t think they are a WS team this year and there was no need to give up what they probably would’ve had to give up to get a two month rental.
yes
This is about it for the Tribe. They either make a move for a RH middle-of-the-order hitter or it’s doomsday time for this season, IMO.
As long as they’re sixth in overall record, they control their own destiny for AL players. Personally, I’d rather entice Beltre…. this is his last chance at a ring.
sufferforsnakes
Cleveland will do this only if it costs them peanuts.
basquiat
The Indians plant these stories, like Harper, to sell season tickets. They aren’t serious 99% of the time. Does anyone think Bryce is going to take his brand to Cleveland?
TrueOutcomeFan
Yeah, who would want to play along side two of the best players in baseball?
indiansfan44
People said that about Edwin 2 years ago and surprised everyone. With the money coming off the books this year from mostly Miller, Allen Chisenhal and Brantley (I don’t see them resigning any except maybe Brantley) they could make some big moves. They have about 16 million in guaranteed raises and only 2 big arbitration players in Lindor and Bauer. Its around 52 million coming off the books from this year’s payroll between the free agents and sunk costs before you factor in possible non tenders and declined options. In all if gives them 36-46 million to add to the team or extend guys like Lindor. I think it could be a lot more active this winter.
jd396
If you have the money and interest to buy season tickets you’re probably not wet enough to make your purchasing decision based on rumors floating around.
gumboshowjoe
Braves should sign Machado for a run next season. Move Camargo to SS and move Swanson to utility.
justin-turner overdrive
The Mariners did not block Fiers from joining Oakland because DiPoto is a bad GM, and thinks making an obnoxious amount of trades = good GMing.
I’m so sick of the “DiPoto is good” narrative. You wanna talk about Beane’s lack of titles, what about DiPoto’s lack of postseason, period?