The Cardinals announced that they’ve claimed right-hander Tyson Ross off waivers from the Padres. He’ll join the Cardinals on Monday.
There’s no indication St. Louis gave up anything for Ross, which means the team will only take on what’s left of his $1.75MM salary (approximately $500K). Ross will presumably slot into a Cardinals rotation that has been dealing with its share of injury issues. Top starter Carlos Martinez just went on the disabled list for the third time this season on Tuesday, while both Adam Wainwright and Michael Wacha have each been out for a significant period with injuries of their own. As a result of their absences, the Cardinals’ rotation currently consists of Miles Mikolas, Jack Flaherty, Luke Weaver, John Gant and Austin Gomber. Either Gant or Gomber could exit the group in favor of Ross.
The 31-year-old Ross, whom arm injuries have weighed down as his career has progressed, had been amid a strong bounce-back season until July. That disastrous month, in which Ross posted an 8.87 ERA with matching strikeout and walk rates of 5.79 per nine over 23 1/3 innings, seemingly went a long way toward killing his trade value.
In all, Ross has logged a useful 4.45 ERA/4.55 FIP with 7.81 K/9, 3.79 BB/9 and a 43.8 percent groundball rate over 123 1/3 innings, though ineffectiveness against left-handed hitters and struggles during his second and third times through opposing batting orders have negatively affected his numbers. Ross has given up a .294/.380/.462 slash versus lefty-swingers, and he has seen his ERA rise from 2.59 while facing an order for the first time to 4.47 the second and 7.59 the third.
Despite his flaws, the Cardinals have taken a low-risk flyer on him as they continue to hold out hope of earning a postseason berth. That’ll be a tall order for 57-54 St. Louis, which is 7 1/2 games out of playoff position.
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Falsehope
That was quick.
brewcrew08
Why? They are already out of it
c1234
Not out of the wild card
tonysbrewcrew00
Technically not out of it, but unless the Brewers fall out of the WC 1 spot they won’t make it
c1234
Your brewers can actually fall out of both wildcard spots with that pitching
EndinStealth
You do know there are two WC right?
ThatBallwasBryzzoed
I can easily see that. I can see the pirates finishing 2nd. And the wc goes to SF and Atlanta. Other than the 10 legit brewers fans. No one wants wants them to see them win anything.
The fans for Milwaukee are just now showing up. It’s like the win streak for Cleveland last year. Fans didnt shiw up til they had 15 wins in a row.
And still couldn’t sell out.
Phattey
As a brewers fan imma have to agree I dunno wtf were doing , but man josh Hader sure is a great bullpen arm (even tho he was meant to be a starter and we need starting pitching desperately smh)
Robbyw90
What?
Rob B
Good call! IDK why the crew had to specifically fall out of the #1 spot though. Just goes to show that you don’t know what you are talking about. Right now STL is #1 and the crew are #2 and that works just fine.
Jockstrapper
Hahahahaha!!
tonysbrewcrew00
To irritate contenders… only logical reason if you think about it.
JFree47
4 games out of wild card, and we seen how the Brewers held it together second half last season….
Rob B
Right! They seem to have the same grasp on that WC spot their fans have on reality … little to none.
ardaines
never give on the cardinals
ardaines
never give up on the cardinals
Jockstrapper
You were right the first time, little one.
Rob B
He warned you … if you don’t know by now not to count the Cardinals out until it is all over you will never learn. Ask Nyger Morgan.
baseballpun
Cards were 5 out of the wild card on this date in 2011.
They won the world series.
Jockstrapper
YOU HEARD HERE FIRST!!! 2018 WORLD SERIES CHAMPION ST. LOUIS CARDINALS!!!
daved
passing one team is easier than passing 4.
baseballpun
I don’t think Ross means they’re going all out or anything, but I don’t know why people expect or want teams who are in striking distance of the postseason to just pack it in. I mean, what is the point of all this if you aren’t trying to win?
Rob B
There was only 1 WC back then idiot. There are 2 now.
Perksy
I think he means the cardinals acquiring him so quickly after Ross was placed on Waivers. It usually takes the two days to work something out.
Lorenzo
That’s the thing. Nothing had to be worked out, the Padres just let Ross go without compensation, the same as with Jordan Lyles.
The Padres have a bunch of prospects who will be Rule V eligible, and they just opened up two 40-man roster spots to protect a 100 mph reliever and their best AAA starter.
Any fringe players on the Padres 40-man need to worry – there are other prospects who need to be protected.
CardsNation5
Don’t forget how in 2011 they were 11 games out and came back to win the division. Never ever count out the Cardinals until you know it’s over
ReverieDays
Something that happened once seven years ago, okay. I’ll go ahead and side with the fact that most teams this far back historically don’t make the post season over one year of luck.
hiflew
That tells me a lot about your character. You’d rather quit than try when things look tough. I feel sorry for your spouse(s) and employer(s) either now or in the future.
daved
it’s over
Rob B
Is it? Is it really Daved?? Because we passed those 4 teams and are now sitting in the #1 spot.
murphy
Living in the past.
-Story of STL Cardinal fanbase.
STLCards33
Every fan base does that you moron
bighiggy
The only reason you say this, is because after 20 years the Cubs are finally good again. The Cubs are better now, but wont always be, just keep that in mind
cpritner
Because your team has no past.
Lorenzo
I’m not a Cardinals fan, but Geez, what a past – and recent too. You think 3 years out of the playoffs is a long time? Pshaw!
joepanikatthedisco
except the nationals
Rob B
Cardinals fans can live in the past, present and future because it is all good.
BarrelMan
Actually 2011 Cards were a wildcard team.
Cardinals17
Unfortunately for the 2018 as compared to the 2011 Cardinals, they had a lot more horse power in their line up then and didn’t have their head in the games the first half. They had a prime time Pujols, Edmunds and Bergman was having one of his best years. Freeze was young and the real deal at 3rd. Molina was having one of his best years offensively and defensively. Chris Carpenter literally blew his career up in his superior efforts in the play off and World Series. He was the last actual ace the Cardinals have had. The starter who when he pitched, you figured if the Cardinals scored some runs, they were going to win!! Though the 2018 team looks better with Bader and O’Neil in the line up together, they don’t have a Pujols, Edmonds or Bergman in the line up. Yes, Matt Carpenter was an All-Star as was Molina that year too. And yes they are on the 2018 team. However, there is no powerful impact players in the middle of this line up. Plus, no dominant former Cy Young pitcher who is a starter that can abruptly stop a losing streak and right the ship. So, yes their records for 2011
Rob B
Jim Edmonds did not play for St Louis in 2011. Also sounds like you were saying Matt Carpenter was an all star in 2011 which is also wrong … he was in the minors that year. Pretty clear you know jack squat.
Wainofan
Cards were 12 games out in mid August last time they won World Series, so…..
cards81
Love how the Brewers fans are talking crap and their organization does the same thing lol
kiddhoff
Ask Nyjer Morgan why.
Rob B
I loved watching the Cards beat them in the playoffs that year while simultaneously watching Morgan suck after saying how much he hated the Cardinals and hoped St Louis enjoyed watching “The Crew” on TV in the playoffs… we did, very much so. I always liked the Brewers but your fans are starting to sound like Cubs fans, pathetic.
brownbomber
cool
EndinStealth
Interesting
c1234
What the what
Benjamin Young
Would not be surprised to see Ross handcuffed to whomever he replaces in the rotation. Gomber and Gant are both sitting near career innings pitched, so this could be a win win to keep Ross from facing the order three times and to spread the young Cards arms a bit deeper into the season. Smart move.
fasbal1
Again the Cardinals looking for lightning in a bottle
Rob B
Lightning is bottled in St Louis.
justin-turner overdrive
Watch him outperform Archer and the Cards take the WC from this.
Jockstrapper
I’ll stay in reality and watch them continue to suck.
justin-turner overdrive
I mean, same, but if you know baseball, it tends to have things that defy sense happen pretty often (Max Muncy says hi).
Phillies2017
I guess they’ll try to flip him.
EndinStealth
That makes no sense
xabial
They sold Pham for prospects Genesis Cabrera, Justin Williams, and Roel Ramirez.
Wasn’t that their one trade deadline deal? Never say never. This is a proud franchise, always competes. Would not be surprised if went either way
Jockstrapper
Proud = dumb
CardsNation5
Far from dumb. Never count out the Cardinals! Never!
CubsTroll
Reading all your comments, I feel like you should replace the “radio” in your username with the shortened version of the word “richard”
cards81
Only dumb one here is you Radiohead
bighiggy
Man arent you a hater. Probably a Cubs fan since 2016
Jockstrapper
Rich?
Jockstrapper
Nice comeback.
Jockstrapper
Don’t cry “CubsTroll” (Jesus).
tomabsolon
Love it…. keep em coming, now this is entertainment!
Phillies2017
The Phillies made a similar transaction last season claiming Juan Nicasio from the Pirates and flipping him to the Cardinals for a prospect in September.
justin-turner overdrive
The Phillies then traded him immediately to Texas for cash considerations. So, like, the lowest level prospect.
Michael Chaney
Since he’s already been put on waivers this month, they couldn’t put him on waivers again to trade him because the waivers are irrevocable the second time (they can’t pull him back if someone claims him).
I know that’s how it goes if you clear waivers the first time, so I’m assuming it’s the same thing if you get claimed the first time.
hiflew
But there is still no risk since they aren’t giving anyone up to the Padres. Either they keep him and try to make a run or they can try to pass him through waivers again later. And if they lose him, it’s not a big deal since he didn’t cost anything anyway.
Michael Chaney
Oh I agree, I was just saying how waivers are this month. But yeah if they end up trading him for anything it would be pretty good for them since they got him for free.
xabial
Yess! Not Yankees
Bocephus
With that staff anyone would be a plus.
bighiggy
You realize their starters era are top 5 in the national league right?
cards81
I think he was talking about the yankees…at least I hope he was
Bocephus
I definitely was. Should have said that Yankees starting staff, too much in a hurry.
its_happening
Cards are not out of it but don’t look into it either.
Ross won’t put them over the top. Ever.
Contending teams looking to bolster their rotation won’t look for Tyson Ross. Fitting the Cards are in on him. Cards fans wanting change at the top were right.
Vedder80
The Cardinals have the 2nd youngest team in MLB. They are not at the top right now, but the future is extremely bright. Nobody with any baseball sense is asking for any change at the top.
We’re_Pham-ily
Too many Cardinal’s fans aren’t looking at what Mo has actually done. Our young pitching is amazing. We’re missing a big offensive piece, I’m sorry Oscar died, but that changed our course a bit. Maybe Ozuna can relax and put up similar numbers to last year, the rest of the way. Mo hate is annoying. It shows low baseball savvy.
GregF
Low risk investment. There might be something left there.
Lorenzo
“Might be”? Ross had two horrible starts, pitching 7 innings total and giving up 15 earned runs. The other 20 starts his ERA was 3.56. A team that scores 4.5 runs a game should have no trouble winning games he pitches. the pAdres couldn’t help him, they’re last in the league in runs scored, 29th in the majors.
Rob B
Listen to the Padres fan idiots. This is a good get. The Padres where foolish to give him away IMO.
mike127
Nice low risk move. Might have started as a block move with seven other (maybe eight at the time of claim) looking for the same lightning on the bottle option behind them. Yes only 4 out in wild card but still eighth best record in the league with Pitt. SF and Wash close behind. They are chasing a lot of teams.
daved
LOW……HANGING…..FRUIT
daved
STL fans are the biggest bunch of idiots in baseball. These people suck up everything spoon fed to them by Mo-Ron and the Media. That would be a great name for a band.
We’re_Pham-ily
Yeah every Cardinal fan is exactly the same…we’re like sheep….
cards81
Lol this guy…internet tough guy daved
bighiggy
Probably a Cubs fan, spends most of his days at Cubs games with his chest painted and wearing cut off Jean shorts
c1234
Lol the cubs easily are the worst fanbase. I bet there fanbase grew 99 percent since 2016. Plus every time I go to a brewers game (not against the cubs) there is always that drunk cub fan that is annoying as hell. No doubt cubs are the worst fanbase
Jockstrapper
Thanks for proving him right.
eduardoaraisa98
The Cubs have one of the most loyal fanbase. They’ve been consistent in attendance year after year with being at least top 5 in the NL since 2003 besides 2013 and 2014. Brewers fans on the other hand haven’t showed much support. They’ve only had top 5 attendance in the NL twice since 2003
c1234
@Eduardo nice try I’m actually a Cardinals fan that happens to live near Milwaukee. I know a good fanbase when I see one and the Cubs aren’t.
eduardoaraisa98
I said the Cubs have one of the most loayl fanbase in baseball, I never said they had a nice fanbase. Besides, Cardinal fans are way worse than Cubs fans
Rob B
IDK, Philly fans of anything are unbearable. But since 2015 Cubs fans are deplorable. They have gone from lovable losers to sore winners … from “aww shucks, we just can’t catch a break” to counting the rings they haven’t won yet. The best part is they are so fragile, a few things go wrong and they get right back into their feelings. Nobody feels sorry for you anymore Cubs fans.
Jockstrapper
True. True.
cards81
Great minds think alike right Radiohead…
baseball1600
Ok if the Cardinals are making moves then Bobby Evans pick up the telephone and start selling the farm for average players who won’t help our season.
Rob B
Man please… that would just be more of the same from Mr. Evans.
johnrealtime
Commenters can be so shortsighted. If a player struggled the past year and a team signs them to a minor league contract, people talk about how garbage it is and whatnot, despite the fact that players have down years (or even many years in a row) and come back to have great seasons. Happens all the time.
And many times throughout baseball history teams have not looked good, have been back many games, yet come back to be very competitive. 3.5 games back and people are questioning why the Cardinals are trying?
We’re_Pham-ily
Haha 100% agree with your post. Baseball is the ultimate game of “Chicken Little.” If you lose 3 games in a row it’ll probably mean that your season is over…
bleacherbum
Congrats to AJ Preller for owning Tyson Ross’ rights twice and losing him by not trading him either time. Way to come up empty again AJ. Ridiculous how he does this so much. If he can’t get the big deal he passes on trading a guy altogether it seems like.
mooshimanx
Tyson Ross is worth less than his 40 man roster spot
hiflew
Obviously not since the Cardinals claimed him.
hiflew
We don’t often agree, but I am with you on this one. Even picking up a lotto ticket C prospect is better than just quitting. And that’s exactly what this is. I don’t fault teams for trading away talent for prospects when they are out of the race, they are trying to improve the future of the club at the very least. This is just quitting on the season. How can management expect ANY member of the Padres to try the rest of the season if thy are so obviously quitting on the season?
Lorenzo
The Padres farm is stuffed with prospects. There’s no room for somebody else’s low-level or even midlevel prospects. They have a bunch of prospects who will be eligible for the Rule V draft, and need 40-man roster spots to protect them, so Ross’ and Lyles’ roster spots were more valuable than they were.
As for “giving up”, what would YOU do if your team lost 32 of its last 42 games? What Preller is doing is letting the veterans go and bringing up the prospects who are ready. A young team is going to get a whole lot younger.
hiflew
Are you seriously so short-sighted to think that they have so many prospects that they don’t need more? Do you really think every one of their prospects is going to be a successful major league player? They have 8 top 100 prospects, they will very lucky if half of them become solid regular major leaguers. Just look at the Twins, who had an even better farm system than the Padres just a couple years back. As far as the roster spots go, they would be there at the end of the season when Lyles and Ross became free agents. But that is not the point. The point is not that they shouldn’t have gotten rid of them, the point is getting nothing in return for them.
As for what I would do, I would have done my best to NOT lose 32 out of 42 games. And if that happened despite my best efforts, I would do my best to NOT lose 32 out of the NEXT 42 games. To ensure that, I would not be giving away major league players for free in order to turn my team into a glorified AAA team.
eatonculo
The Cardinals may face a challenge to cover innings at the end of the season with all of those young pitchers. This move helps cover that. It doesn’t mean this guy is being thought of as a savior, or a trade piece, or anything more than another arm.
cards81
I’m glad someone knows what they are talking about…that’s exactly right but people post on here that really have no idea what is going on with the cardinals…the young arms and injury’s is the reason for this move
cardfan2011
Well this was unexpected lol
AaronCards
St. Louis is only 4 games out of a playoff spot, not 7 1/2. They are 7 1/2 out only in the central.
hiflew
What’s funny is that people consider the Cardinals and other teams “out of it” when they are 5 games out of a playoff spot. On July 1st, the Oakland A’s were 10 games behind the Mariners. On August 1st, the A’s were ahead of the Mariners. That’s 10 games in just one month and we have nearly two full months to go. They could still win the Central, let alone the WC.
cards81
They also obviously haven’t watched the cardinals lately…totally different ball club now that they brought up all the young guys and letting them play….they split 8 games with the cubs and took 3 of 4 from the Rockies
Jockstrapper
HERE THEY COME! Hahahahaha!
cards81
I wish your dad wouldn’t have
Dotnet22
You must be fun at parties…
Rob B
So does his mother… problem is the best part of him ran down the crack of her butt and stained the mattress
koz16
In June Ross was one called one of the better available pitchers available on the trade market. The talk was that teams would have to give up at least one of their top 10 prospects to land Ross.
Today the Padres let him go for NOTHING.
bleacherbum
Zip, nada, zilch, zippo, zero.
echozulu88
I think that this has a lot to do with someone eating innings as well. Most of their starters are young and haven’t logged tons of innings especially with Martinez and Wacha out. Also, while the Cardinals have played better as of late and technically remain in contention, the front office wants to show they are trying to remain competitive and not give up, thus people will still come out to games especially with the hope of what they did in 2011.
simschifan
Jeez I come here to talk transactions and trade rumors and I see a bunch of homers crying about other teams and their fan bases. This is a good move by the Cardinals. Plus he’s pretty decent against the Cubs
Lorenzo
Good point. Lifetime, Ross has limited the Cubs to a slash line of .215/.312/.312.
AaronCards
Like this move. Not saying Tyson will do great here. But besides his horrible July, he pitched pretty well. Plus, he can get decent run support here’s. Love the way mike Schildt is running the team, more aggressive base running and handling the bullpen moves fairly nicely. Also, I like all the young guys finally getting their chance. If the cards can stay playing clean baseball and limit the errors, who knows what could happen. At the very least, the young guys getting work in this season could bode well for a run in 2019. Get them settled into the majors this year.