The Yankees continue to hold Blue Jays left-hander J.A. Happ in high regard and have him near the top of their list of “realistic” trade targets as the deadline approaches, tweets Fancred’s Jon Heyman. (Notably, Heyman adds that the Yankees don’t consider either Jacob deGrom or Noah Syndergaard to fall into that “realistic” category.) However, to this point, the Yankees believe the asking price on Happ to be too high for talks to become serious. The Mariners and Cubs have also been linked to Happ in recent weeks, and it seems it’s merely a matter of time until the southpaw finds himself in a new jersey. Though he was hit hard in his past two starts, Happ is averaging nearly 10 strikeouts per nine innings pitched against 2.9 BB/9 with a 4.44 ERA. Metrics like FIP (3.97), xFIP (3.79) and SIERA (3.64) all feel he’s been substantially better than his ERA would indicate.
Some more trade talk from around MLB…
- The Giants might not be done making moves to shed salary, reports Henry Schulman of the San Francisco Chronicle. The team seemingly dubbed Austin Jackson and Cory Gearrin expendable and shed their remaining salary in Sunday’s trade with the Rangers, and Schulman wonders if the Giants would also take a similar course with either Derek Holland or Sam Dyson. Holland has been solid dating back to early May, but he’s somewhat redundant with Ty Blach also on the roster (though certainly the depth is valuable). San Francisco could save another $1.4MM, Schulman adds, if Dyson is moved. It should be emphasized that the Giants’ goal certainly isn’t to shed payroll at all costs; rather, the aim would seem to be shedding expendable pieces who could be replaced by more affordable internal options, thus creating further distance from the $197MM luxury tax barrier. Schulman also notes that while finding a taker for Hunter Pence would obviously create ample breathing room in that regard, some within the organization, including manager Bruce Bochy, would hate to see Pence and his leadership depart.
- The Red Sox have been scouting Zach Britton since he was activated from the disabled list, tweets Heyman. The Sox and Orioles aren’t frequent trade partners but did line up a couple of years back in the Andrew Miller/Eduardo Rodriguez swap, and Boston president of baseball operations Dave Dombrowski has already pulled off one intra-division swap in 2018, acquiring Steve Pearce from the Blue Jays. Britton hasn’t looked like himself since returning from surgery to repair his Achilles tendon, as his K/BB numbers and ground-ball rates have all been well south of his usual levels. Britton’s velocity has ticked upward in his past two outings, though he’s still falling behind far too many hitters and is owed more than $5MM through season’s end. That last bit may be of particular importance to the Red Sox, who after acquiring Pearce are just narrowly under the next level of luxury tax penalization. If they exceed the luxury tax by more than $40MM, the Red Sox would see their top pick in next year’s draft pushed back 10 slots.
- Teams looking for rotation help on the trade market will have a close eye on the upcoming Mariners/Angels series, writes Joel Sherman of the New York Post. If Halos already trail the Astros by 14 games in the AL West and trail Seattle by 11 games in the AL Wild Card race. If the Mariners can widen that gap further, the Angels may have little choice but to turn an eye toward 2019, which would likely result in Garrett Richards being made available in trades. Sherman notes that Angels GM Billy Eppler told him just last week that his focus remained on reaching the postseason, but Sherman also writes that “those who know Eppler believe he will be pragmatic” if things don’t change quickly. The Yankees, Brewers, Braves, Cubs, Phillies and Mariners are among the teams looking for rotation upgrades, per Sherman.
TennVol
What would a realistic trade between the Jays and Yanks look like? Fair for both teams.
iains 2
My feeling would be something akin to the sandwich pick the jays would get from the qualifying offer but closer to the majors. So, think late first rounder at high A to AAA.
iains 2
I expect the ask right now is Sheffield or Abreu
Supilikethat
a failed prospect from 2011 because Happ isn’t very good
its_happening
Jays already had Refsnyder
jimmertee
Another Yankees hyped prospect that belongs in AAA. I couldn’t beleive the Jays actually traded for him thinking they could make something of him.
Another Atkins screwup.
jimmertee
The Yankees would have to offer a top 75 prospect and a throw in. Jays likely won’t take much less.
aussiejaysfan
It’s hard to judge really. Happ, while capable, is hardly a superstar ace.. but at the same time he is probably the best available at the moment (I don’t see either of the Mets going)
So while you wouldn’t think a serviceable rental would get much back in a trade, there is the demand factor of a few teams needing him to replace some of their wonky starters for their post season runs. What does everyone think? At least one high upside prospect and some throw ins?
jaysfan77
They def get a teams 4-7 prospect, plus like a 15, and a lesser lotto pick, be my guess, Jays have some relievers they can sweeten with too. Axford, Clippard, Oh Loup.
jaysfan77
Granderson could be a sweetener for a deal too
Boogaloo
You do realize the Yankees 4-7 prospect aren’t the same as another teams 4-7 right?
The yankees10th best prospect would be equal to alot of teams number 10 prospect.
And they aren’t overpaying for him, not like they are afraid of facing him in the playoffs.
And what would the yankees want with any of those relievers? They would be mop up men there.
Fair trade would be tyler austin and Dillon Tate.
flippinbats79
Lol get over yourself. Jays system is right there with the Yankees.
CobiEven
You are drunk. “The yankees10th best prospect would be equal to alot of teams number 10 prospect.” You need to stop the day drinking.
Boogaloo
Are you trading him to the blue Jays clown?
No, what does their system have to do with anything?
In fact where are they trading him if not the yankees?
Seattle and their barren system? Lol
jdgoat
The Brewers and Cubs have also been linked. Every team will probably be kicking the tires on Happ except for Houston
Boogaloo
Cubs have no farm system left.
And who exactly are the brewers giving up thsts so great?
jdgoat
I’d for sure take Alzolay as part as a return. And the Brewers? You mean the team with a top 5 farm?
Momus
“The yankees10th best prospect would be equal to alot of teams number 10 prospect.”
???
jimmertee
No, the Jays system is not “right there” with the Yankees. The Yankees have many more near ready guys than the Jays do.
I rank the Yankees system as a A while the Jays system ranks as a C-. Remove Vlad and the Jays would be a D-. Bichette only projects as a below average major leaguer and the Jays near ready minor league pitching inventory is next to bare. Gaviglio will be a 4 eventually and Borucki with end up a 2-3.
That is why the Jays need to sell every asset that they can for near ready pitching. #Scoutseyes
jdgoat
Yikes. That’s cringe worthy
its_happening
Yanks have a bunch of prospects underperforming this year. Looked at their stats this morning. I wonder if other teams aren’t impressed with the Top 25-30 guys and pushing for guys in the Top 5 due to performance.
whitemule70
Isiah Gilliam and Ben Heller. Maybe Trevor Lane instead of Heller.
its_happening
Happ for Gray, Acevedo and McKinney. Fair?
jimmertee
Love Acevedo, great bullpen material, Mckinney not-so-much – probably a dramatic fall off when he hits the majors.
Sonny Gray can be rescued.
Why Not?
its_happening
It does a few things here:
1 – NYY save a little cash with the deal and drop their current worst pitcher and still have the potential to make another trade or two.
2 – Mckinney is 4th OF material who is a LH hitter, potential for more. The idea is to platoon with Grichuk and just eat up the next 2-3 years before the Jays are ready to win again. He can compete for a job in 2019.
3 – If Gray performs in 2019, he’s trade bait again. If not, he holds a spot and maybe mentors Stroman. Jays do need arms for next year, and I’d buyout Jaime Garcia.
4 – Acevedo is a young, lively arm can crack 100. When was the last time a Blue Jays player ever came close to 100 on the gun?
FordamFlash
I still do not get it? Why those left handers with a highest price tag, and what about the Yankees three man bench. Surely if Cashman is to trade away talent, he then is seeking the best bang for the buck. Why not go and trade some other pitches off the 40 man to a team that has massive money on the books but wants to start to rebuild such as the Tigers. No not Fulmer, but maybe Shane Grene along with Hicks ,that way you clear 40 man by two ( two pitchers one off the 40 man and one one.
Then with another 40 person such as a bat, again not Frazier, but Bill McKinney to the Nat’s for pitcher Gio Gonzalez, yeah I know the Nat’s are barely still in it but shoes going to play the outfield next year when Harper leaves?
its_happening
Not a horrible idea for the Nats to consider 2018 as a write off, deal Harper and Gio, focus on next year. But I doubt there is any chance of that happening. NL East is still there for the taking.
redsox 1976
DD should try for Brad Hand of San Diego!!
rocky7
DD would have got trade from the major league roster because an elite talent like Hand would require good minor league level talent which the Sox just don’t have.
Devers and somebody else would probably the start of what the Padres would want.
jaysfan77
You’d think the Red Sox would get tired of paying so much for relievers, holy, They’ve pretty much emptied the farm on Thornburg, Smith and Kimbrel, although Kimbrel wasn’t an overpay, he’s a free agent after this season.
SKbreesy
I wouldn’t say the Carson Smith trade destroyed the farm system that was Wade Miley and Jonathan Aro.
Bruin1012
The Padres did want to sign Groome couldn’t hurt to offer him and Chavis and see what happens. If the Sox offered Devers the Pads would snatch that up but that isnt happening so I highly doubt that the Sox have what it takes to get Hand.
RedRooster
I don’t see DD dealing with Preller ever again
pasha2k
The Evil Empire should pay top prospect to deal in the division. If they try n steal another top from the Jays , then the jays should stand firm unlike the rape of the cubs a couple yrs ago.
Jon67
The Yankees didn’t take the cubs! Anyone would trade their best prospect to end a 108 year world series drought!
pasha2k
The NYSy rape every team in a trade
jdgoat
Yep Cashman sure got the best of Oakland in the Gray trade
RedRooster
I mean, it’s not like the guys he gave up in that trade are any good
mrnatewalter
This is like saying you won a trade in which you gave up broccoli for a head cheese sandwich.
Bocephus
What exactly have the players the Yankees traded accomplished so far?
jdgoat
Wait you’re basing this off of Fowler’s first big league taste and aren’t going to let Kap fail before writing him off? Sure Mateo has struggled, but the Yankees gave up three top prospects for a guy who might be gone soon.
That package could’ve been saved or sent for someone better than a guy who pitched in a big park and didn’t have good advanced stats
jaysfan77
He’s going to the Cubs or Milwaukee along with a reliever, Axford, or Clippard. I’d pick Axford, throws hard. That’s my guess, better return. Yanks don’t need a reliever.
thecoffinnail
Yankees need a good LH reliever badly. A couple of years ago they were loaded with left handed relievers with Shreve, Wilson, Miller and Capuano. Now, besides Chapman, all they have is Shreve.
sportsfan101
Where’s the guy/kid who said Britton would be back to his old self right away? Saying how he’s watched him pitch every game and knew he would come back stronger? Sucks to be wrong doesn’t it buddy. Hopefully a change of scenery will help Britton regain his old self though as he was a monster outta the pen.
Caseys.Partner
These “writers” are brain dead.
How would the Phillies upgrade their rotation, deal for Max Scherzer to replace their fourth starter?
The Phillies problem is the four holes they start in their lineup. Their pitching is good enough to win the WS.
Brixton
no, its not
eduardoaraisa98
lmao did you seriously just call Steve Adams brain dead?! cx
CobiEven
He was banned once…
Caseys.Partner
” call Steve Adams brain dead?! ”
SHERMAN of the NY Post.
eduardoaraisa98
Dang if you think sports writers are brain dead then you should join them if you really think the Phillies have a pitching rotation good enough to win the world series. The Astros (2.87), Yankees (3.43), Diamondbacks (3.48), Dodgers (3.52), Red Sox (3.54), Brewers (3.54), Rays (3.56), Cubs (3.57), and the Cardinals (3.75) all have a lower era than the Phillies (3.85). De Los Santos hasn’t even pitched in the majors, Eickoff is injured, Pivetta has a 4.62 era, Velasquez has a 4.69 era, Luis Garcia has a 4.74 era, Arrieta has been struggling the last 7 starts and has a 5.50 era and Nola & Eflin seem like the only good consistent pitching they have. Richards has a 3.42 era with 10.5 strikeouts per 9 innings in 15 starts. “How will the Phillies upgrade their rotation” lmao dude you swear they’re stacked, if you really think the Phillies have a chance to win the world series with Nola & Eflin the you’re out of your mind lol
Caseys.Partner
“De Los Santos hasn’t even pitched in the majors”
He beat the Mets at Citi Field last night.
Oh….I get it. You’re making a funny at the Mets expense (not a real MLB team).
eduardoaraisa98
Yes ignore everything else that I said lmao oh and I just checked, it’s true De Los Santos did pitch against the Mets and he still somehow was able to manage to allow three runs in 6 innings, can’t imagine how he would pitch against a playoff team, but to you he must be a super star cause the Phillies are stacked in pitching
buzzler
The jays want Frazier for happ and as a jays fan unless there’s a bidding war it seems like a stretch to me. But if were talking Happ + Tepera for Frazier that seems closer to real. Tepera has 2 yrs of control has 4 pitches throws 95+ and he is our setup man. Any team would love to have a 8th inning guy pitching the 6th/7th.
Thoughts
jaysfan77
I’d somewhat agree, But with Osunas future a bit unsure, and the Jays do have some high upside young outfielders, I’m not sure it’s a fit.
thecoffinnail
That sounds pretty close. I don’t think the Yankees really need another RH reliever though. I don’t think Loup is what they are looking for and Mayza seems to be another Shreve (a bit better though). So, the Blue Jays might have to go in another direction with an add on. Cashman really seems to like Frazier and I am not sure he will let him go for a rental. Happ seems to be the best pitcher on the market right now so who knows what will happen when the deadline gets closer.
edreed20
Not a chance they trade Frazier for a half year of happ
mrnatewalter
Honestly, do the Yankees really have a choice to be super picky at this point? If they are serious about contending, they have to get a better starter. I’d say someone better than Sabathia is necessary.
Think about it, their starters not named Luis Severino have a combined 4.98 ERA. That’s not gonna play in the postseason. They need to do something.
Sitting back and counting your top prospects doesn’t win you your first title in almost 10 seasons.
buzzler
Tepera traditionally has reverse splits so better numbers against lefties, although I haven’t looked at this yrs numbers. He throws a good cutter a decent change and can go 2-3 innings, but he’s best used for 3-4 outs.
its_happening
Jays want to roll Grichuk, Pillar and Hernandez in the OF next year. Where is Frazier fitting in this equation? What are the Jays doing with Alford? I don’t see the Jays asking for Frazier in the deal.
buzzler
Pillar his 250/310/400 Frazier and Grichuck r better bats and pillars d is slipping. Pillar should b traded any jays fan would agree and alfords regressed this yr. Hernandez/Frazier/Grichuck in the OF left to right, Smith Jr as the 4th
its_happening
Yes. I am aware of all this. You are implying the Jays are serious about dealing Pillar. They aren’t. I would be all for dealing Pillar to acquire Frazier. Whoever started this rumor is probably some media dweeb looking to put an idea in the heads of fans to put pressure on the front office to make moves.
Dwight Smith Jr will not be the 4th OF. Better chance of Alford being the 4th as the Jays still see something in him. Athleticism I guess. Alford has completely regressed and I do not see him as the future. His prospect ranking needs to be dropped, considerably. If a team wants him, Jays should deal him.
jimmertee
We are going to have to disagree on that one. Alford’s future is very good and bright. Trust me. He will be very good.
Grichuk is at his peak. He is not going to get any better. Cut him loose get a prospect for him,
PIllar is money. He is not going anywhere. Period.
Jays need near ready starting pitching….They are not trading for Frazier, ever.
Supilikethat
Lol
angels in Anaheim
Garrett Richards to the Cubs in two weeks.
thecoffinnail
I think they get Happ and the Yankees get Richards.
cmtaylor98
I think Atlanta would be all over Richards & they have the MLB Ready arms the Angels need.
Maybe something like this
Angels get: Colby Allard, Kyle Muller, Ian Anderson & Christian Pache
Braves get: Garrett Richards & Cam Bedrosian.
doug4848
More bs story
Solaris601
I think if the Giants were somehow able to package Pence and the roughly $9M left on his 2018 contract to another team, they’d do fine and dandy without him and his leadership. I know Bochy can’t come out and say, “We could really bring in an impact player if we could just get rid of Pence and his contract.”, but that’s reality. They’d have to send a blue chip prospect along with him, and I don’t know who that would be in their system.
jekporkins
Nobody wants Pence at any price and the Giants won’t want to trade another prospect to save a couple bucks. Just be patient and he’ll be gone in a few months.
Gobbysteiner
Be patient and he’ll be gone in a few months? Jeez I know he hasn’t been good but that’s no way to talk about a giants legend. Dude has given a lot for the team, we don’t need to railroad him out of town. I hope he retires next year and comes back a coach with the giants.
jekporkins
A legend? He’s not Willie Mays, Willie McCovey, or even Will Clark or Robby Thompson. He was a solid player that hasn’t had a decent year since 2014. The only reason he’s still playing is because of that contract.
WarrenSpahn
sad but true. Underpants can’t catch up to a fastball. he’s off balance on most of his swings, rolls over, and hits weak ground balls. sad to see such decline in an appealing and unique player that was pretty good in his prime.
WarrenSpahn
good move by the Giants to clear out a couple non-performers and give the young guys a chance to play. 2018 is not going to be the Giants’ year however. A big red flag is Buster breaking down. Average spiraling down and no power left. Bum may never be the Bum of the WS era again. The window has closed…
joseph ray meyer
who are the twins targeting for players in trades ? what are the looking for in return in the trades that they are willing to make? what are the wanting to get in return if they trade dozier, mauer, rodney, duke escobar, and kepler or pressly?
cakirby
Angels could actually put together a solid trade package to a playoff team. Let’s say that team is looking for a starter as a centerpiece to a trade, with relief help (like every team is at the deadline) and power off the bench (like many playoff teams do at the deadline). Richards, Parker, and Valbuena might actually get them a solid prospect and change.
SFGiants4ever
The Giants better not trade anymore of their prospects to get rid of salary. In the past 8 months the Giants have already traded two of their better pitching prospects, their best hitting prospect and an assortment of others. While Dyson has been inconsistent this year and he is making money the Giants probably would rather not pay if he isn’t going to be shutting teams down consistently. But that said, the Giants would be ridiculous to trade another prospect to ditch Dyson.
Angelfanforlife19
Sell sell sell and watch trout walk that sucks our only franchise player. Sad sad day
HaloShane
Only an Angel clown would say my eye is looking at the post season.
Trade anyone and everyone on this team for the best possible value. This organization is so lost and going nowhere fast.
Bocephus
Maybe that eye is on the postseason broadcast schedule.
Bart
Richards left tonight game with right forearm irritation. I’m sure it will dampen his trade value.
SashaBanksFan
Didnt take long for this article to appear before he got injured again. Teams will be hesitant to give up much. Angels may be stuck with him.
George Reskin
The Giants NEVER rebuild. They add mid-season. And there is reason to hope. With the weak NL West,, they could make a run.
Pence stays. No reason to trade him because they get nothing in return, and he could get healthy and get hot and help. If he doesn’t get hot, let him ride the bench and pinch hit.
I’ve been waiting for Posey to go to hang up the pads and play first or third. He could platoon at first with Belt, with Belt playing in left field on days Posey plays first.
If Cueto is ailing, keep Holland in the rotation. The G-men do have deep starting pitching, a good bullpen, with Strickland coming back. They can always use a right handed power bat. That should be their mid-season acquisition goal.
WarrenSpahn
no longer a recipe for success….adding over-priced has-beens at the expense of playing time to develop young players only ensures the inevitable third place finish in the NL West
jimmertee
As said in these pages a while ago, the Jays feel that the Yankees offer for Happ is weak but the Dodger’s offer is close to what the Jays are looking for.
I would expect Happ to be in a Dodger uniform soon.