Reports yesterday indicated the Padres were checking around about a potential Chris Archer trade with the Rays, and MLB.com’s Jon Paul Morosi sheds a bit more light on those talks. San Diego is reportedly willing to move one or two of Francisco Mejia, Luis Urias, and Cal Quantrill in an Archer deal, though its top two prospects (Fernando Tatis Jr. and MacKenzie Gore) are not available. Even without Tatis or Gore on the table, dealing any of those other highly-touted prospects would be a major concession on San Diego’s part, and a big score for the Rays. Mejia was only just acquired by the Padres as the return for Brad Hand and Adam Cimber, so in my opinion, it could be that the team sees the young catcher as somewhat “found money” — put another way, the Padres would be essentially dealing Hand and Cimber for Archer, which is a deal the club would’ve happily made. Then again, the Padres are so deep in minor league talent that they can afford to move top names like Mejia, Urias, or Quantrill and still have one of the game’s better farm systems.
Scouts from the Padres and Diamondbacks (and, from outside the division, the Phillies and Cubs) watched Archer’s start last Sunday. A source tells Morosi that at least eight teams have recently been in touch with the Rays about Archer’s availability, and while there still isn’t clear sign Tampa is considering a trade, this deep interest is one of the reasons “a deal involving Archer is more likely now than at any point in recent memory,” Morosi writes.
Here’s more from around the NL West…
- There’s still no timetable for the Giants to welcome back righty Jeff Samardzija, though it’s not looking particularly promising. Per Henry Schulman of the San Francisco Chronicle, via Twitter, the veteran hurler is “not returning anytime soon.” Rather, he’ll continue to rest his ailing shoulder before heading out for some amount of rehab work. This continues to be a lost season for the 33-year-old, who owns a 6.25 ERA in 44 2/3 innings
- Though Samardzija’s ongoing injury issue is one of several less-than-promising signs for the Giants, indications are that they aren’t interested in packing up and waiting for next year. GM Bobby Evans says in a chat with Joel Sherman of the New York Post that the front office is “bent toward helping our current club.” Though Evans expressed at least some willingness to consider moving bullpen pieces, such a move wouldn’t really serve the team’s interests, particularly after the Giants previously gave up young talent to shed salary. While the team is still within reasonable striking distance in the NL West, its place in the trade deadline picture remains unclear — though Evans did shut down any thought that the team would make a last-minute decision to make star lefty Madison Bumgarner available.
- The Dodgers sent scouts to watch pitchers on both the Marlins and Rays when the two Florida rivals faced off last weekend, the Miami Herald’s Clark Spencer reports (Twitter link). L.A. could have interested in any number of relievers or perhaps even starting pitchers on either roster, given how many Miami and Tampa players have been cited in trade rumors. Interestingly, Spencer’s tweet was linked to a tweet from Michael J. Duarte of NBC Los Angeles, who said that the Marlins had scouts watching Yadier Alvarez’s most recent Double-A outing. A consensus top prospect headed into the 2017 season, Alvarez didn’t crack the preseason top-100 lists for Baseball America or MLB.com this year (though Baseball Prospectus still had him 41st) in the wake of an unimpressive season. Alvarez has continued to struggle in 2018, with a 5.85 ERA and 25 walks in 20 frames for Double-A Tulsa, though he’s still missing a lot of bats with his 100-mph fastball.
Dumb move for the Padres to trade for archer. Rather go in for deGrom
Archer has more years of control and an absurdly inexpensive salary in comparism to what DeGrom would make in arbitration. And Archer would dominate in that park and division. Not such a dumb move after all.
You really think archer is in comparison with deGrom? Honestly look at his stats over the last two three years archer is a number 3-4 starter on any high profiled pitching staff. He’s an ace for the rays cuz that’s all they really got. And no archer would not dominate in petco… it’s a dumb deal for archer with those prospects at this point even with years of control I’d rather take chances on Thor or deGrom versus losing anyone for an archer deal.
Archer was “born and raised” in a ultra-hitter’-division…the NL West is not a hitter’s paradise for a number of reasons, even tho’ Petco was “adjusted”. This is a division, where relatively recent CY Young winners have been in abundance. So, if Archer had started in this division, in the National League, I imagine he’s looking at an ERA in the threes.
Im not a huge fan of this trade talk/potential. But if you think Tampa is asking for a lot, NY will want a LOT more for their pitchers.
Archer hasnt been an ace in years. Giving away any of the players listed for him would be incredibly stupid.
Dumpest move is those giants
Sign mark m for 64 million to pitch batting practice
I will be really disappointed if the Padres trade Urias. Mejia makes the most sense.
ditto. But, Mejia has more upside at a premium position. Urias is not a SS. Quantrill looks like a buy low prospect. Concerned another year recovered from TJ and we could really be kicking ourselves if we did trade quantrill. I’d rather trade multiple lower level prospects along w guys like Franmil, Renfroe, Asuaje, Spang, Jankowski. Brad Hand and Archer tho are pretty close in value w similar contracts. Mejia straight up for Archer may not be terrible. I’d rather go after a guy like Realmuto w Mejia+ or go all in for Thor or DeGrom. Or 2 of 3 wed still be stacked
Urias fills more of a need. If Padres trade Urias it just opens up a hole at 2B
but we dont even know if he can hit mlb pitching for more than 2 months, not to mention he has NOTHING in the power department…look at austin meadows, byron buxton, profar, the list goes on….Urias is nothing and if we can trade archer for him that would be awesome
“NOTHING in the power department”…simply not true; he’s already hit twice as many HRs than last year (7-3) in 43 less games, granted it’s in the PCL.
Urias should be untouchable, if he’s traded for someone like Archer it would be easily Preller’s worst decision since trading Trea Turner.
Urias isn’t going anywhere. You are right, trading him will result in Trea Turner 2.0 and that is unacceptable.
Um IDK if you guys realize this but if you were to drop Trea Turner in the Padres lineup the past years he really wouldn’t be good. If you were to take Manuel Margot or Eric Hosmer and drop them into the Nationals lineup with Harper, Rendon, Murphy, etc…all of a sudden the stats and WAR start going up…weird how that works…yea that’s not common baseball knowledge at all…
7 home runs in the PCL and he hit only 3 last year in how many AB’s? and you say he has power….omg who am I talking to…do you guys even watch baseball…
WTH are you talking about? Turner would have been great on any team. And head and shoulders better than anyone else the Padres have at SS.
Eric Hosmer makes it his mission for that to be impossible.
You are assuming that Mejia sticks at catcher for SD, which I doubt. Especially with Hedges already there. Mejia will be a poor defender at third or, best case scenario, a Carlos Santana-type first baseman. Either way, he is not likely to occupy a premium position.
Yeah, don’t get me wrong, I don’t think they should trade any of those guys for someone like Archer at this point. That’s a move to make before the 2020 season maybe. The rest of this season and next season should be more about giving guys in their system a shot. The guys I’d rather they try to trade now are guys like Pirela, Spangenburg, Renfroe, Jankowski, and the like.
Bingo. But what are these guys even worth?I don’t think any of Renfroe, Spang, or Jank, could get anything back that’s worth getting rid of them. We’d have to package these guys to improve the quality of the return.
Exactly, they need to not waste their time on Archer. Instead they should just go for Thor if they really want to trade for a starter. I wouldn’t mind Mejia and/or Quantrill in a trade, but they would look really stupid if they trade Urias. It does nothing but open up a hole at 2B, like how the Myers trade opened up a hole at SS. I want to hope that they won’t make the same mistake twice.
I’m way too concerned about Thor’s health and durability to want to see them give up a big package to acquire him. When he plays he’s great but he hasn’t played all that much the last two seasons.
Problem is these guys have played too much in the past couple years, so everyone who watches baseball ( which is not very many people on this site as I have already stated and proven time and time again) knows they are probably not going to be contributors on a playoff team. After teams see 700-1200 at bats…aint much changing with that player in the positive direction the overwhelming majority of the time.
700-1200? You mean 1500… 700 at bats…LOL
Omg some guys don’t even get 700…what sport are you watching????
Profar is just passing 900 at bats…let’s see he was the #1 prospect how many years ago?
Profar also spent many years injured and recovering from said injuries. If you think trading Urias is a good idea, then I have to wonder if you are the one who actually isn’t paying attention to baseball. He is everything the Padres want in a middle infielder. He’s a second baseman (not really a power premium position), so he does not need to have a lot of power to excel. His high-OBP approach is something the Padres desperately need more of in their lineup if they want to succeed. So please, stop accusing the rest of us of not watching the game and not knowing what we are talking about. I don’t think it takes a seasoned scout to know that Urias is an important piece to the rebuild.
You guys just need to realize you are prospect crazy…its ok, it affects many baseball fans…I just used Profar as an example I literally have dozens and dozens, if not hundreds of recent examples that prove my point. Don’t think the same can be said for what you’re saying.
I would be surprised if they had Urias on the trading block. Urias is Mexican, and the Padres are trying to make inroads into the Mexican market. Plus, Urias is good buddies with #1 prospect Tatis,and has the OBP skills that the Padres desperately need.
A Mexican baseball player?? Wow that’s like spotting a unicorn!
Really don’t see Archer as the perfect fit for what the Padres are trying to accomplish…why not stay the course with the prospects through another season? A trade for a controllable ace can still become an option when it makes a difference…not now. This seems almost as early and unnecessary as signing Hosmer last off season…just one Padre fan’s opinion who is willing to be patient and not thrilled about giving up 3 top 50 overall prospects while on pace to lose 90+ games.
Ownership is impatient — Padres haven’t had a winning season since 2010, and they want to speed up the rebuilding process. Probably not a good idea, but I understand the frustration — very few San Diegans want to buy season tickets to watch the current lineup of players.
San Diego hasn’t had this much excitement and anticipation since tony retired.
A couple years ago they went in all the way with some free agents that got the fans pumped. It lasted about four months then they traded all of ’em.
I could be wrong…I just don’t remember the Cubs, Astros, or Royals sending away 3 of their top prospects to bring in a guy in his prime, 2 years before contention was even slightly possible. Ownership should be smart, not impatient. I am all for pulling the trigger at the right time. I would be very disappointed if they made a move like this now.
Yeah I’m totally with you. Signing Hosmer didn’t make any sense either based on the timeline. I think they should shoot for trading for an ace to start the 2020 season if necessary. At this point I’d hate to see them trade a bunch of prospects when they’re a couple years away from contention.
Excellent points. While Archer would be the ace of the Padres’ staff, he’d rank at or near the bottom when compared to the staff aces of all other clubs. He should be realizing his potential at this stage of his career, but I’m not seeing that. I don’t think he’s worth what SD is apparently willing to trade for him.
Yea like compare him to the Brewers ace….oh wait…ok the Pirates ace….oh wait that doesn’t work either….ok the Cardinals! ok nope that doesn’t…can’t use the Rockies…Lets move to some AL teams…Rangers, Blue Jays, Orilies, Angels, White Sox, Royals, Tigers…Hmmm…I’m going go out on a limb and say Archer can compare to those teams aces.
The Pads should be patient and restrained, as the Brewers have been. No need to rush trades for controllable players until you’re ready to take the next step.
The Brewers!! are you kidding me? The smartest thing they did in the past 5 years is trade Brinson. Not to mention they can’t develop home grown talent, especially pitching.
Exactly, it wouldn’t surprise me if is the work of the ownership once again trying to stick their nose in things because they don’t like how long the rebuild is taking. There will be a time to make a big trade for an ace, but this is not the time.
Totally agree 100%.
The rays have very few appealing relievers and the ones that may catch attention are essentially untouchable. The Marlins on the other hand have some very intriguing relievers although their prices can be high as well. The Dodgers have no need for a starter at the moment unless they were to get a major upgrade from their already very consistent pitching staff. The only worry in the staff is health but they have enough depth to strive through that.
Really? The Rays have one of the deepest bullpens in the league. I think most teams would be in on Castillo, Alvarado, Stanek, and Romo if they were all available. Stanek, Castillo, and Alvarado are pretty much untouchable due to their years of control and Schultz/Wood is not far behind with their above average offerings and years of control. The only relievers the Rays are looking to move are Romo and Venters. Both decent pieces.
That’s what I said bro the appealing ones are near untouchable.
Very few….implies that the bullpen has a lot of trash. We have 5-6 cost-controlled guys for 5-6+ years that almost any team would want and be impact pieces. That’s not “few”. We still have two lights out guys in AAA in Gibaut and Poche as well. The Marlins only wish their bullpen had the depth and punch as ours. By chance you want Romo back? He’s been pretty good.
I guess that is why you folks are in 1st place?
The Rays pitching is 4th in the AL with a 3.69 ERA.
And the bullpen IS the pitching staff. They have ONE starter right now: Archer, who’s ERA is 4.30. The rest of the games, they are using relievers in the first inning.
Cubs didn’t get Britton are probably not getting Happ, didn’t get Eovaldi and won’t get even close to deGrom. But with Cub fans luck they will be stuck with Chris Archer somehow and whoever they trade for him will go on to super stardom.
Man that 2016 season was full of terrible luck…
Only cause the Indians have worse luck
Right, because the yrades that brought Rizzo, Russell, Jake, Strop, Montgomery,etc. have ALL failed.
Man, if we had just kept Castro
No deal! Archers ERA and WHIP have gotten worst each of the past 3 years. Trending the wrong way. AJ Preller needs to cool his jets and keep these prospects. Now – trading for Syndergaard is a whole different story….
The team plane could crash and the Giants front office still wouldn’t commit to a rebuild.
THE best quote I’ve heard that TOTALLY sums up the state of the Giants. Truth plus!
True! But I bet the ownership would make money off of airplane stuffed animals, and paraphernalia related to the crash. Sick to say, but they worry about making a buck, not what’s best for the team right now and in the next few years This past offseason was a joke! Longoria’s money will be a major crutch in their budget. Stupid move. I don’t care what their reasoning of going for it another time with the base was! Everyone who follows baseball knows that the team needs younger talent mixed with them, not older! I saw that with the post Kent years. Winning will happen when you develop, sign and trade for stud talent, not fill up your raster with players way past their prime!
They have one of the best pitchers in Bumgarner, and a great hitter in Posey. With tons of cash locked in for several years a rebuild just didn’t make sense. Giants are only 4.5 back right now.
The point is though that both are reaching their decline years. Posey isn’t the same hitter anymore and Bumgarner is starting to show some worrying signs (not including his injuries). With the team’s system ranked as one of the worst in baseball the Giants appear to be just trying to maintain marginal competitiveness.
I would be willing to lose Mejia as I’m not completely sold on him. Losing Urias would be a huge lose for the padres. The possibility of having the double play combo of Tatis jr and Urias for the next 5-10 years sounds great.
I hate the idea of the padres trading their prospects at this moment
It’s tough to be sold on Mejia because of how long the Indians have kept him in the minors but as someone who follows Minor League baseball from what I’ve seen he’s a solid catcher. Hits much better than Hedges, only problem is future at CATCHER is questionable. He has the speed to be an outfielder and the arm to be a third baseman though.
Trading Urias is not a good idea. They lose one of their best hitting prospects while also opening up a hole at 2B. It would be one step forward, two steps back. They made that mistake before when they traded Turner, only they were saved when the white sox gifted them Tatis. I doubt something like that would happen again if they gave up Urias.
PLEASE NOT URIAS!!!
and they dont have another 2B that can get on base like Urias..nor do they have another one who can play SS like Urias can. I just think he’s that valuable..and not expendable. Ive seen him play..and everytime I do, he reminds me of a younger Altuve’. No, Im not kidding. I dont mean “finished product-Altuve”. I mean, the raw but refined Altuve’, who many thought would NEVER hit for power and maintain a solid OBP at the same time. To me, thats Urias in a few more yrs. His bat control skills, are very underrated. And you have to watch him play regularly to understand his real value. I think he’s another Pedroia/Altuve’. I know Preller knows what he’s doing…but if Urias is a part of a trade for Archer, then it tells me he may not have learned a lesson from that trade that sent Trey Turner, packing. On that eff up alone, he should just chill on Urias, and move in another direction.
What’s Urias’ OBP in the majors? You guys are hilarious. Just because you can work a walk in AA with young pitchers working on their control dont mean a thing.
And Atluve will probably never hit 20 homers in a season again…maybe not even 15…starting this year. Start watching baseball
Hey man hes in AAA ok?!?!? (Yes sarcasm before you guys start your bs)
The same as Mike Trout’s OBP in the Majors as of 7 years ago.
LOLOLOL…..and what are you insinuating???
That every superstar was a prospect once.
Giants should just pull the trigger and go all out. Keep Slater, D-rod, Suarez, Ramos. Trade pieces like Shaw away for rentals. They have an absurdly soft August schedule, they can go on a 9-3 or 12-5 ish run and compete for the wild card spot. This is the last year of the window, it won’t open until at least 2021 ish.
In the minds of the front office and the wine and cheese crowd the window is open 24/7/365 regardless of their record. Never seen a group of people so enamored with the roster regardless of their faults and failures. It’s sacrilege to criticize any Giant past or present in SF.
What color is the sky in your world? It seems like every Giants fan was begging for the team to rebuild.
The only reason the front office needs to put a winner out there is to help keep interest in the team and ballpark so they can pay off the massive Mission Rock project that’s being built next to the stadium. It’s going to bring up to 1,500 housing units, 1.5 million square feet of retail and office space, and 8 acres of parks. If there is lack of interest in the team the value of that land from retail to apartment rentals will drop. A winning team will drive up the costs of business all over that place.
I think he has some valid points about the way the ownership and band wagon fans feel. I agree that most of us true Giants fans wanted the team to get younger and more talented, not older, more expensive, and very mediocre! They keep putting band aids on gaping wounds hoping they heal and find a fountain of youth! Not happening as we have been saying.
I think the Padres should hold on to most of their youth. Prospects are a surprise, but to be fair even established veterans can be. I think they should move Myers and his contract to a team needing an outfielder, and sign veteran SPs over the winter.
The Padres have to make a massive trade to free up spots on the 40 man roster before the next Rule 5 draft . Alot of key players are up in the next Rule 5 draft that are currently not on the 40 man roster. Basically the team is going to make a huge trade to free up spots more then likely a 3 or 4 players off the 40 man roster.
Urias is the future
Ruiz is too far away
Then trade a couple of guys off of the major league roster and a lower prospect for pieces that fit with the plan.
Yeah, at some point they need to be assessing if they should really be giving up a 40 man spot to guys like Jankowski, Renfroe, Spangenburg, Lopez, Villanueva, Pirela, etc.
The argument of needing to trade guys to clear space on the 40-man shouldn’t even involve any of the guys near the top of the farm system in my opinion. Guerra, Lopez, Torrens, Cordoba, Rea, Makita, Mitchell (asap), should be traded for pennies on the dollar before even thinking about hurting the real future prospects. Current 25-man guys like Spangenberg, Renfroe, Pirela, Perdomo, Villanueva, Hughes should certainly not be necessitating any trades of legitimate prospects either. I’m all for some 4 for 1 trades…but why the hell would we touch guys who might actually contribute to a decent team in the future?
It’s better not be urias
Cal cool
Mejia cool
Getty’s awesome
Austin Allen cool
Agree
The Padres window won’t open until Tatis and Urias come up. Wait until then to start dumping prospects.
Don’t worry Padres fans whatever you guys offer the Rays would easily get trumped by the Braves if Archer was to made available it’s so funny how great your prospects are but still are deep in the rebuild time for those prospects to start making their mark on mlb don’t you think
How funny? So funny…go to bed troll
I guess it’s just delusion, but the Giants are the western version of the Mets. Newsflash: you’re not good, rebuild now before you get truly terrible and it takes more than a few years to build a new core
I agree. They aren’t good! The ownership keeps holding out hope, players they have will be good like they were 3-5 years ago!
Agree completely. Giants plan appears to be throwing bad money after bad money to finish near the bottom of a top heavy division just to keep up the delusion that they’re “built to win now.” Hey Bobby, the window has closed and it’s time to move on.
4.5 games back….So bad..
Archer would make more sense for the Phillies, DBacks or Cubs where he would be a cost-controlled #3….not for the Padres where they would expect him to be ace…which he is not at this point
As a Padre fan, I have no interest in Archer. To be honest, they should be waiting another year or so to acquire this front line starter, who knows who could be available once this team is truly ready to contend.
Mr. Ron Fowler please read the comments we dont want Archer!! lmao
How about Wheeler and Plawecki or a prospect to SD for Mejia,Urinas and Paddack.This gives the Mets a young Inf. after they somehow trade Frazier, 1b Alonso, 2b Urias, ss Rosario 3b McNeil C Mejia.
Of) Conforto,Nimmo and Bruce (when he comes back).
The Padres would not Wheeler his last year of arbitration is next season. The Padres are not ready to compete. Plawecki is not as good as Hedges long term. Even if the deal made sense for the Padres that package is an overpay.
wtf are you talking about? So, how about no
How does this benefit the Padres?
Do not trade any of the following. I’ve waited a long time for a competetive team. I’m willing to wait longer if we have to trade any of these guys:
1Fernando Tatis Jr.
2Luis Urias
3MacKenzie Gore
4Michel Baez
5Anderson Espinoza
6Adrian Morejon
8Logan Allen
11Tirso Ornelas
13Chris Paddack
14Josh Naylor
16Jacob Nix
30Luis Patino
And Naylor, I’m on the fence…
I am okay with moving Naylor or Espinoza but otherwise I do hope we keep the guys on your list
Padres will have to move Naylor eventually. Where would he play on the Padres?
I don’t see an Archer trade without him in it honestly.
These are the guys I feel like San Diego can afford to lose in a trade in my opinion.
Josh Naylor – block at ML level
Austin Allen – blocked at ML level
Jorge Ona – international signing, number 12 or 13th prospect.
Trey Wingenter – Could step in and close right now for 1/3 of the teams in the game and is blocked due to other guys getting looks.
Michael Gettys – always been highly ranked since the Padres drafted him. The trade for Margot a few years ago was the early writing on the wall for him.
Pedro Avila – who was acquired for Derek Norris before the beginning of last year is a prospect who looks to be a possible rotation piece that the Padres could afford to lose at this point.
I would start with pieces from this group and obviously sprinkle the necessary big league pieces with it. Maybe Renfore, Spangenberg or Lauer.
Anything outside of this list is a no.
I agree except for Ona he supposedly has plus plus power we dont have many in the system with it.
I think keep Espinoza since the value is lower right now. I wouldn’t want to see Osvaldo Hernandez, Hudson Potts, Jeisson Rosario traded. I would trade Morejon-Baez-Nix. Tho none of those in a deal for Archer.
Espinoza no in my mind hes very young killer arm he will already have TJ surgery so not much of a scare for blowing out. Atleast the very least i think he becomes our closer of the furture.
Re-evaluate Reggie Lawson. Think you might like what you see.
From that list, I’d take out Espinoza and Naylor, while replacing them with Reggie Lawson and Estuery Ruiz.
As far as the major league roster goes, any of Renfroe, Spangenberg, Villanueva, Lopez, Pirela, or Asuaje are expendable.
Spot on sixflags
This is silly guys, if you like these guys so much watch minor league baseball. Half these guys won’t be productive in the big leagues in 2-3 years IF (and thats a big IF) they make it, its amazing you “baseball fans” don’t realize this.
Look at the top 100 prospects in all of MLB the past 5 years…2-3 of those guys on the Padres list may ‘be special’ and thats all we can hope for.
What happened to your claim that the Padres would be 4 games back of the Wild Card in late August?
It is late July…I got 30 more games til I’m wrong. May and June got me excited but we simply lack the depth at the major league level. I thought guys like Renfroe, Margot, Hedges, Myers, Perdomo, Mitchell would all have great seasons but nope and all these guys want is more lottery tickets.
“I love how everybody believes the Padres are ‘years away from contention’… we’re going to be in the mix for the 2nd WC in late August this year.”
“Ok just remember 4 games back of the wild card in late August…not saying they will get it but they will be around .500, like the Royals before they went to their first world series. Look at the royals 2012, 2013, and we all know about 14 and 15. As a padre fan you should be ashamed, be more optimistic.”
“4 games back of the wc in late August…watch it happen.”
Nope. No going back on all that now.
says you…and that is just creepy…and again I have another 30 games, so talk to me then.
Its not that they will be succesful, its that the trade wont generate much. Add degrom or Thor and we still dont make the postseason. Need to have some guys become major leaguers first.
For Archer….Quantril, Lawson, Gettys and Wingenter. Would solve a couple of Rule 5 slots for us and they’d get a couple nice pitchers in return. Wingenter is also almost ML ready.
Reggie Lawson is a low-key diamond in the rough. Look at his numbers this year. Trevor Hoffman taught him his change up in the offseason and his numbers are reflecting from adding that out pitch. He would be one of the untouchables towards to bottom of the top 30. Waaaaaayyyyy to much potential to let him go this early. He could easily be Tristan McKenzie in 1.5 – 2 years.
I agree with the people saying it’s too early to do this. What they should be doing now is something like what the Cubs did with Arrieta. Which, you could argue that Archer is a similar situation (not living up to his full potential). But Archer actually has done it before and unlike Arrieta, he will cost more than a rental starter. Much more in fact. Preller better not give up any of Tatis, Gore, Urias, Baez, Morejon, Paddack or Allen.
Padres have the most overrated minor league system in baseball.
more like the most over crowded
It’s the most talked about nauseating subject this farm system. Padre fans act like they are players already.
Padres have too many players to keep/protect. They have to bundle some to trade or just lose them. The big league roster has a bunch of average talent that cannot hit…….period. Myers contract is stupid and he should be moved. Margot is not 5 tool CF as projected. Where does hitting come from??? We have lots of young pitchers….but they break down….get surgery. Our GM values pitching over hitting but he misses the point that pitchers play every five days and only 2/3 of the game.
If he finishes season big if they should trade him on high note. All they do is lose with him so could lose without and save $
No one wants Myers.
Gee, do you mean prospects can fail? Maybe, move some while you have the chance.
Thete is a pitcher in the game at ALL times. Routinely, 3 or 4 are used, each game
Think about it.
Myers is making as much as some teams are paying for mid-tier relievers.
Every team would want Myers but he is not available…for a potential 30/30 guy…and to pay him 10 mil a year…again not sure why you are on a baseball website and making comments.
Idiot….it ramps to 20 million in coming years. U think he’s worth that…go try bingo.
No one is paying 20 mil for DH but they can include prospects + cash
The Myers deal was to get the MLBPA happy. Its really not that bad of a deal. When hes worth 15 WAR from 2019-2022, the contract will be looked at quite nicely. Never heard people talk about Margot having great power. He needs to get away from trying to hit homers and just hit the 5.5 hole and use his speed.
Padres sign players to appease MLBPA get real
We do, but not for the initial asking price. If the price was lower we would be all for it. No Tatis, No Urias, No Gore, No Mejia. Sorry.
That is the elephant in the room. Unfortunately the answer will be frank. Has he been hurt yet? Well no, but let’s face it, that many sliders will take a tool so when?
All risk is on San Diego’s end.
More evidence that the Giants front office has no clue, much less a solid plan, about where to go from here.
They only won 3 WS real dumb
tells me, NY must be asking for the World for Thor….I dont like this bit of news, tho’. I understand Urias may never hit a million homers, but his OBP is DESPERATELY needed on this team. And FOR ONCE, Id love for the Pads to have a SS/2B tandem like Urias/Tatis. Archer is a very solid pitcher, no doubt. But trading for him so close to his FA?…Just, no…unless they trade Wil Myers to clear some money, even with them having to eat a lot of it.