The Nationals could be willing to “revisit” talks with the Marlins about J.T. Realmuto, according to Fancred Sports’ Jon Heyman. The Nats have long been connected to Realmuto, though GM Mike Rizzo seemingly threw cold water on the potential of a trade a few weeks ago by saying that his team wasn’t willing to meet Miami’s very high asking price for the star catcher. Now, there is some belief that Washington could be open to dealing star outfield prospect Victor Robles, though Heyman notes that this is unconfirmed. The Nats were firmly against the idea of dealing Robles or Carter Kieboom to the Marlins for Realmuto, which is what brought talks to a halt in the first place.
Robles entered the season as a consensus top-10 prospect in baseball, and after making his MLB debut in 2017, there were whispers that he could emerge (like Juan Soto has) as an everyday option in Washington’s outfield this season. Instead, however, Robles has missed almost the entire year due to a hyperextended elbow, and has only recently begun a rehab assignment. He’ll have only a couple of weeks to fully return to action and prove his health prior to the July 31 trade deadline, though one suspects that Robles’ stock is high enough that he would have to appear drastically limited (or suffer another injury) to lose too much value as a trade chip.
Here’s some more from around the NL East…
- The Nationals are also one of the many teams interested in Rays starter Nathan Eovaldi, Marc Topkin of the Tampa Bay Times writes. Washington won’t necessarily have any room in the rotation once assuming Stephen Strasburg returns from the DL when expected, though Eovaldi could conceivably replace Jeremy Hellickson or the struggling Tanner Roark. The Yankees, Brewers, and Braves have also been linked to Eovaldi, and scouts from at least five other teams have been watching his recent outings.
- Braves GM Alex Anthopoulos discussed his team’s trade deadline approach with Mark Bradley of the Atlanta Journal-Constitution, in the first part of a wide-ranging interview (the second part will be published on Monday). While the Braves have a deep farm system, the GM aren’t keen on dealing from that prospect depth for players only under contract through 2018. “We would prefer not to go after rentals unless the acquisition cost just makes so much sense for us,” Anthopoulos said. “There’s a lot of pain that has gone into putting together this young talent. We’re not ready to throw that all away just because of one season. That said, I do think we owe it to the players and the fan base and the organization to make this team better, one way or another.” Anthopoulos said that the trade market is currently flooded with teams shopping their pending free agents, estimating that “90 percent of the players that are actively available right now are rental players.”
- The Braves will be able to afford some upgrades at the deadline, as Anthopoulos said that the team set aside some payroll space before the season should some more spending be required midway through the year. That original total has now increased since team revenues have also risen as a result of the Braves’ success. “I’ve been given very specific instructions, and I can shop in any aisle. I can at least have a conversation. I can tell you right now in all the discussions and all the players we’ve discussed, there’s no single player that we can’t afford,” Anthopoulos said. “Where ultimately we’d have an (in-house) discussion is if we’re looking at adding three or four big-league guys at big contracts. That’s when maybe the numbers start to add up and we’d have to evaluate it. But one or two guys right now would not be a problem at all.”
TradeAcuna
Braves will acquire a C level player and call it. Got to maintain that prestiges top farm system to reassure the fans.
Eddy Treadway
This is an asinine comment. This regime has been in office for less than a year, and Anthopolous has been known for big trades. Also, the last group always stated the gaining prospects was in the mindset to bundle for trades for bat’s. The Braves are a mid market team. Any organization that isn’t top dollar has to hold their in house home grown pieces in high regard.
Caseys.Partner
“The Braves are a mid market team.”
Atlanta is the same size market as Boston.
thenextbriankenny
That doesn’t mean they have the same attendance and revenue of Boston.
Yankeepride88
The Diamondbacks play in the 5th largest city in America. Does that make the Dbacks the 5th largest market?
Eddy Treadway
A large part of market placement for sports teams are their TV deals. The Braves have notoriously one of the worst TV deals I all of sports. It’s a huge reason why they went from one of the largest salaries in the hayday to a mid market budget of today. Also brand value goes into team worth. Along with ownership ceilings. All that make your Boston comment irrelevant
Caseys.Partner
What are the terms of the Braves TV deal?
Provide sources.
Eddy Treadway
How’s this?
google.com/amp/s/www.talkingchop.com/platform/amp/…
Eddy Treadway
Or this one
google.com/amp/s/www.ajc.com/sports/baseball/leado…
Eddy Treadway
Or the one that calls it the worst deal in all of sports
google.com/amp/s/rowlandsoffice.wordpress.com/2013…
reflect
Technically yes, that’s what the word market means.
But in sports a lot of people use it incorrectly, and say “small market” or “mid market.” What they should say is “low revenue” or “mid revenue.”
But whatever… everyone knows what the original user meant. The Atlanta Braves clearly have less money than Boston or New York.
3rdStrikeLooking
Nice work. Someone throws out the ‘prove it’ burden of proof angle and you dump wheelbarrows of data on them. Golf clap for you.
GarryHarris
The city size will sometimes give a wrong impression of it market size.
The Population size should also include the metro population, not just the population within the city limits. Metro fills the stands.
The market size includes fans outside the metro. Market tunes into the airwaves.
Two contrasting markets are Phoenix and St. Louis:
Phoenix has an enormous city limit boundary. St Louis has a very small city limit boundary. Phoenix city population is very high compared to its metro population. St.Louis metro population far exceeds the city itself and not only covers MO, but the other side of the river in IL.
The D-Backs have a large number of fans. However, Phoenix metro is populated with a large number of transplants loyal to LAD and the teams from the Great Lakes region.
The Cardinals not only have the loyalty of the majority of state of MO, surrounding states such as AR, OK and southern IL are avid Cardinal fans.
baseballfanforever
Phoenix is not the 5th largest city in America. 2017 estimate: Atlanta #9 5.9 million , Boston #10 4.8 million, Phoenix #11 4.7 million. The Atlanta metro area is 21% bigger than Boston. They also draw from the entire Southeastern US since there is not a single team within a 500 mile radius and they draw from all over. You can’t count political borders since that doesn’t count the true population.
AlvaroEspinoza 2
Yanks = big market
Mets = small market
Caseys.Partner
“How’s this?”
There’s nothing there.
Literally nothing.
I want the TV contract. Not bloodsucker Greg Maffei’s story.
Greg Maffei stuck a syringe into the necks of the Braves fan base and removed almost $400 million from Liberty Media in one year.
$400 million in one year! That’s more than three years of Braves payroll.
Caseys.Partner
“The city size will sometimes give a wrong impression of it market size.”
Google: neilsen market size 2018
Technically I was wrong, Atlanta is bigger than Boston.
Neilsen sets the $$$ figure for corporate advertisers like Apple and Samsung.
Salionski
What Maffei does with Liberty has nothing to do with the Braves. Maffei or Liberty can not legally invest or take away money from the Braves system. That includes payroll.
The Braves are owned by Liberty but they are legally independent in all financial matters.
Eddy Treadway
Getting the actual deal is pretty impossible. It’s a private company which doesn’t have to give the actual details out like a public school. This article does break down the details which clearly state the revenue received was close to only 10 million a year which is one of the lowest. This is the best anyone that doesn’t work for Liberty Media can obtain
google.com/amp/s/rowlandsoffice.wordpress.com/2013…
Eddy Treadway
Getting the actual deal is pretty impossible. It’s a private company which doesn’t have to give the actual details out like a public school. This article does break down the details which clearly state the revenue received was close to only 10 million a year which is one of the lowest. This is the best anyone that doesn’t work for Liberty Media can obtain
google.com/amp/s/rowlandsoffice.wordpress.com/2013…
Eddy Treadway
Here’s one with a graph that shows how bad the tv revenue is
fangraphs.com/blogs/estimated-tv-revenues-for-all-…
Cat Mando
Well CP/aec, since you are so angry at the rich folks you could drive by Maffei’s house and shoot the windows out of his cars with a pellet gun although that didn’t work out so well for you in CA did it?
Eddy Treadway
And it doesn’t matter if the price to run every commercial is that of a super bowl add. The money the team gets is set and the rest goes to the network
NL_East_Rivalry
Hey now, don’t come in here and start telling the truth. If liberty wanted to they could breach their contract because it helps my argument
baseballfanforever
When people point out discrepancies in the city size vs team spending, they do so because it’s quite clear that the team SHOULD be spending more money because they have the market for it. The Braves do NOT have the worst TV deal in sports. That’s completely exaggerated. With SunTrust in 2017 they brought in 50% more revenue than with Turner Field and that was part of the plan. That’s well over $100 million. So clearly they have the money.
As a side note… people REALLY need to stop comparing everyone to the Yankees or Red Sox. What is really the point of that?
Here is the current payrolls for all 30 teams: ibtimes.com/mlb-payrolls-2018-red-sox-rank-ahead-d…
If you consider the top 10 as big market teams, 11-20 as mid market, and 21-30 as small market, you will see that the Braves are the largest of the small market teams. What’s going on there? If you consider what they have done with SunTrust they really should be spending upwards of $140-$150 million which would put them right in the middle of the mid-market teams.
Whoever said that the Mets are a small market team is completely 100% wrong. They are #11 so they are only $3 million from being a large market. Come on: They are in NYC, they have a huge TV market, and they dominate all of Long Island. They are just messed up as far as the ownership.
Caseys.Partner
“Getting the actual deal is pretty impossible. It’s a private company which doesn’t have to give the actual details out like a public school. This article does break down the details…..”
That is a 100% contradiction. You either have the actual details of the TV deal or you don’t.
“which clearly state the revenue received was close to only 10 million a year which is one of the lowest”
Clearly state from what, Greg Maffei’s rear exit hole?
GeoKaplan
Correct…but when the team owns the network (NESN), then it has access to more of the ad revenue, compared to teams which have deals with the Fox Sports regional networks. The Braves fall into the latter category.
In that case, market size can take a backseat to the ownership of the service providing the televised games.
Injediwetrust
So did John Moorse when he sold the Padres the 2nd time in five year and the ink wasnt even dry on their new TV deal..
mookieman
No. Same Market
Caseys.Partner
“but when the team owns the network (NESN)”
The Mets own their TV network – SNY – in the nations largest market.
baseballfanforever
The Mets are truly screwed up. They should be on par with the 5 biggest spending teams in the league given their market. There is something seriously wrong in Queens.
badco44
Add the Sox have an owner that cares about winning….does Atlanta?
chrisones
Yea, Terry M has been with the Braves forever. Liberty doesn’t run the Braves, he does. It’s he and Scherholtz’s party.
Bedminster Abby
The Atlanta metro market population ranks 8th in the US. .The Atlanta Braves rank 8th in revenue (2017) and 11th in attendance this year. That follows four seasons of 83, 95, 93 and 90 loss teams. That puts them clearly in the top 30% of all baseball markets. They can afford to spend more money but it may not increase profits. The TV deal hasn’t been the same since Turner sold the company to Time Warner.
baseballfanforever
The Braves are not 8th in revenue. They are currently 21st. They are also the 9th largest metro area in the US (2017).
ibtimes.com/mlb-payrolls-2018-red-sox-rank-ahead-d…
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_metropolitan_statist…
The TV deal they currently have is no longer the biggest factor. They have generated tons of money from SunTrust, the Bullpen, and the hotels they own. They are up 50% in revenue from 2016 and it’s only going to grow with increased fan interest with the team winning and with the rest of the SunTrust complex being completed.
Houston We Have A Solution
Honestly, the Braves should use their prospect capital to swing a mega trade with the Reds.
Braves get- Iglasias, Suarez, Schebler
Reds get- Wright, Anderson, Allard, Riley, Wentz, and 2 more prospects
The Braves lock down 3B for the next 5 years with Suarez and sure up the pen with Iglasias.
You can argue over the price and what not for both, but wanna make a statement thats one way to do it for the Braves to get cost controlled young assets.
Houston We Have A Solution
You can argue over prospect price but 4 top 50 prospects in Wright, Anderson, Allard, Riley (3 pitchers) plus boarder line top 100 talents in Wentz and say Touissant would help the Reds fill their biggest need- pitching. Senzel can replace Suarez and Winkler can replace Schebler.
Meanwhile the Braves pick up a long term piece at 3B in Suarez, elite pen arm, and an OF to replace Markakis.
bravesnation5
Yeah why dont we add Acuna and Albies in that deal also. This has to be one of the craziest trade thoughts I have ever seen.
OnTheBrink
That guy is nuts lol.
Ronk325
Pitches seems like a delusional Reds fan who thinks Suarez is worth way more than he really is. In an earlier post he suggested the Yankees trade Andujar, Sheffield, Adams, Abreu, and Acevedo for Suarez alone. I can’t decide which of his trade proposals is worse
jleve618
The second one is way worse, no question, but I doubt that was actually posted.
Ronk325
I couldn’t possibly make that up. He said that in the comments on the East Notes and Rumors article from early this morning. Machado going up to bat is the picture for the article
3rdStrikeLooking
Stay on topic of this article, please.
Next posting will be about the color choice of the Mazda down the street for sale?
sheff86
That’s not a bad trade for a mid market team. OMG LOL.
Houston We Have A Solution
26 year old 3B locked in on a 6 year 66 mill contract hitting .312 / .399 / .574 dont just grow on trees.
Hell if you wanna pay machado 25-30 mill a year instead go for it.
Houston We Have A Solution
You dont get talent unless you give up talent.
If braves rather hold on to pitching prospects instead better hope those pitchers can hit lol. Cause braves wont be winning anything any time soon.
murphy
Keep repeating the same ole line. You aren’t a gm stop, fam.
Ronk325
Why do you insist on doubling down on your awful trade proposals? Eugenio Suarez is not a superstar and would not bring back anything close to what you think he would. Look at the trade packages that netted Marcel Ozuna and Christian Yelich over the winter. They are better players than Suarez and didn’t return nearly as much as you seem to think he would. You need to stop living in fantasyland
Houston We Have A Solution
Oh weird. Here I thought I also included a CHEAP ELITE BULLPEN ARM and a CHEAP power bat in the outfield for the braves.
My mistake. Clearly I just said all that for Suarez. Silly me.
Look if youre clueless about tbe value suarez schebler iglasias have given their production AND price thats fine. But dont comment until you actually have a clue about what they bring.
Scott schebler is hitting .278 / .351 / .470 with 4.5 years of team control hasnt even hit arbitration. Hes naking a paltry 580k.
Already told you suarez and how hes doing all that for 11 mill.
Iglasias is an elite pen arm with 2.5 years of control.
And really? Yelich netted the marlins a top 15 prospect in brinson another top 80 in the other OF.
Ozuna didnt cost as much cause he had 2 years of control already making 10 mill via arb. Not exactly a “bargain” when youre gonna pay him 2 years 25 mill most likely. Try harder.
Ronk325
The Braves don’t need Suarez or Schebler and they would never give up all of those prospects you listed. As far as your ridiculous trade package for Suarez involving the Yankees goes that would be astronomical overpay. You said it yourself Yelich only fetched the Marlins 2 top 100 prospects and he’s a much better player than Suarez. You telling anyone to try harder is hilarious considering the only thing you’re trying to do is compete with CaseysPartner for most delusional commentator on this site
jkurk_22
“No thank you” – AA
jdgoat
I’m don’t know too much about the Braves farm but I think a lot of people on here are undervaluing how much the package the Reds are giving up would be.
ronnyalton
Pithes love Velocity…. You should be beaten with a sock filled with coins. You have lost your fu#&ing mind. Worst trade proposal i have literally ever seen on this site. May god have mercy on your soul.
Bubba 5
Braves also known as Dodgers East. Can’t trade a prospect and 2years later umm who was that. Anthopolusus had a couple bug trades in Toronto was generally afraid of his own shadow and did nothing. All that will come to life in Atlanta and they won’t win with him on charge.
its_happening
Yep. 2015 trades were done to save his job. 2012-13 was done out of pressure to be competitive and sell tickets. the offseason season ticket holder press conference got a bit testy leading up to the Marlins and Mets trades.
Little Whirl
I’m still surprised that those trades didn’t save his job honestly. They absolutely worked.
mmarinersfan
Well, except the Tulo one.
Little Whirl
I mean, he was a 3.4 bWAR player in 2016! Obviously injuries have hobbled him to the point of being an afterthought now, but I’ve never had an issue with that deal. The primary reason I think that trade is palatable (if not a win) is that Troy Tulowitzki was a big part of two teams editions that advanced to the ALCS (the Jays hadn’t been in the postseason since Joe Carter’s legendary jack). & also the fact that it jettisoned Jose Reyes (who was actually making slightly more per year through 2017.
its_happening
Anyone that says the Tulo deal was bad has no clue how awful Jose Reyes was in 2015. Remember, this is before the assault allegation. Reyes was putrid on both sides of the ball and was more concerned with his high-five celebrations than his bad play. You have to take on a bad contract to give away a bad contract sometimes.
As for Anthopoulos, there were many good moves and many bad moves. He was an average GM. Not a knock on him whatsoever. In Toronto, however, he’s looked at as a God.
charty321
Don’t forget AA traded Syndergard for RA Dickey back when he was in Toronto…he isn’t afraid to give up prospects for a below average return
jeffk-2
Dickey was the reigning Cy young award winner.
its_happening
And…Jays had already made the deal for Reyes and Buehrle. Dickey was supposed to “put them over the top”. Obviously it didn’t happen, but many moves were made over two years to do it.
JKB 2
I disagree. Its not about prestige its about intelligence. You do not trade your blue chippers for rental players. Period.
jbaker3170
Prestiges…HUH???
geauxbraves
The Braves are a few pieces away, no reason to go all in for this season when their future is so. right. I, of course, would love for them to win it all this year, but I can wait.
geauxbraves
*bright
baseballfanforever
But there also is no reason why they can’t make a trade or two without giving up their best prospects.
JKB 2
And bravesfanforever that is probably what they will do
baseballfanforever
Well, that remains to be seen. Despite what I said I remain skeptical that AA will make a deal for a significant player. From what I’ve seen since last year there hasn’t been ANY decent deals for anyone. All have been bit players. I get that the Braves are very reluctant to trade any of their best prospects–or any prospects of any consequence–but really, they have needed help all season and they keep parading Moylan, Freeman, Culberson, Bourjos, Bautista, Santana, and Flaherty out there… The only one who is marginal is Culberson. if they would just pick up a decent thirdbaseman for the season that would move Carmargo to the utility roll and would improve their bench considerably. This team has slowed to a crawl offensively and I predicted this early in the season.
badco44
Right now the Braves need a front line starter and pen help. And a moose from KC that will solidify the middle of the order. They have had a hell of a year no question. I’m rooting for them and am a die hard Red Sox fan, but they are very young and fun they watch!
bobtillman
I’m not all that fond of this “prospect obsession”; ALL prospects are suspects…..but the trading of good prospects that most comes back to bite you in the butt is trading away pitchers……with what’s out there this year ( 3 months of Manny isn’t worth giving away the farm, literally), I’d sit tight and let the talent bubble up some more…..
jleve618
I’d tend to agree with you, but as a phils fan, I think I’ve been persuaded lately. There is a rare opening this year, and the east is only getting better as a whole. Who know what next year will be like, but there’s a chance now, if it’s not the sun and the moon you have to give up, why not try?
Little Whirl
Am with you and I think it can be done without ceding Sixto Sanchez too fwiw. Manny Machado would be an enormous get for Philadelphia. Maikel Franco is barely above replacement level & JP Crawford & Scott Kingery have been negative WAR players thus far. It makes a ton of sense.
mj-2
I’d much rather the Braves promote Allard and Riley than trade for anyone. They messed around when Riley was hot and then he got hurt and they’re messing around now with Allard after Soroka went down the second time and opened up a spot. Allard in particular has done more than enough to earn a shot to show what kind of an impact he can have. And yet the Braves do nothing. If this organization wants to try and kill two birds with one stone, keep their prospects and make the fan base happy adding players who may help them contend, this is the only way they’re gonna accomplish both of those.
SteveMo
Allard is gonna get traded. I keep viewing his staying in Gwinnett as a sign that GM-AA doesn’t want him to come up to the bigs and get rocked in a spot start or two, and his trade value go down as a result. Right now, there’s still the unknown of whether his stuff can really compete at the ML level, even though many evaluators believe his ceiling is relatively low already. Gohara and Fried, on the other hand, keep going up and down because they stay 93-96 from the left side and both have an easy delivery, so nobody doubts that their stuff is legit. I honestly doubt Allard ever pitches in an ATL jersey.
baseballfanforever
I could not agree more. I’ve had many debates with others about Allard and most people seem to think this guy is the next coming of Greg Maddux (tended to be fair weather baseball fans though so they weren’t exactly informed). I’ve read about Allard and he doesn’t appear to have any overwhelming pitches so it seems he is getting by on guile alone. That will not make it in the majors. I think the same thing: He is being kept at AAA as trade bait.
bradthebluefish
AA sure is talking a lot about how money isn’t a problem. Curious how it helps/hurts him in trade talks.
vacommish
He is making it known the team will eat money for those “90% of players who are rentals”, which is appealing to mid-and-small market teams trying to cut costs on departing players. It’s the right plan for a team looking for pieces, yet unwilling to trade top prospects for one big piece.
baseballfanforever
Yeah, what’s up with that? Stop talking about your ability to spend and either SPEND or NOT SPEND. When people keep talking about their ability it usually means they are covering themselves for later. Makes you think the Braves are not likely to make any deals. AA has been making excuses since he took over last year and hasn’t made any ground breaking deals since. Maybe he will. I don’t know. But it’s odd that that he keeps talking endlessly about the money that’s supposedly available.
Chewbacca
they stashed some money aside to be used this year if needed. and the attendance has boosted that number. this is his first year with Atlanta, in a season they weren’t expected to be contenders.
baseballfanforever
I know about that statement… We also know that they made 50% more revenue last year and didn’t spend the money. So we will see this year and during the off season if the Braves spend any money (more than $120 million). They are #21 in payroll. That makes them a small market team if you split the league into thirds. There’s no way they are a small market team given their revenue and the fact they are a corporate team who should be spending all of their revenue. They need to move up on payroll to be competitive.
Chewbacca
sure but maybe give AA more than a season to work with?
baseballfanforever
Why? Do we give all general managers a free year? I think he knows what he is doing. Do you think you understand the Braves at this point? It’s not like he was completely out of baseball fishing in the backwoods in Alaska. He knows who is out there and by now he should know the Braves system.
Chewbacca
I understand they were not expecting to be competitive this year. Any rational Braves fan knows that. So they’re in the thick of the race and they’re willing to make deals if it makes sense. If AA stands pat at the deadline with the Braves still competitive, then yeah, I have questions. But maybe see how this plays out before crying foul?
Caseys.Partner
No tweets before bedtime about Machado and the horse race to get him?
TribeTown
That’s what I came here for!
abravesfan 2
Anthopolous’ track record has me more concerned about him overpaying for a Chris Archer (who’s always on the block) than for a rental piece this year. As a Braves fan, you can’t help but be a bit apprehensive of another Teixeira-like deal (which didn’t help the Braves make the postseason that year, unlike the Wainwright for JD Drew rental)..
Eddy Treadway
I know the Tex deal is always the one brought up, but the main problem with that trade is the team’s system was weak enough where those prospects were huge. Secondly the biggest gaff in it was missing out on Trout when they traded Tex to Anaheim. Honestly wainwright for Drew was a bigger miss because for years after the trade the piece that was missing was a front line starter for the Braves which Wainwright would have definitely have been
realgone2
Trout wasn’t drafted until 2009. So how did they miss on him? Tex was traded to LAA in 2008
Eddy Treadway
The Braves traded Tex to Anaheim in 2008. He played out the year and was a class A free agent. They offered him a qualifying offer which he turned down. Back in those days a class a would net a team a first round pick from the team the player signs with and a supplemental pick. With those two picks the Angels picked Trout at 28 (which would have been a pick that the Braves would have had) and Tyler Skaggs with the supplemental pick they were awarded
realgone2
That’s quite the stretch there.
mdbaseball05
All of your logic is false. Plus, don’t go back wishing to reverse it. You’re right, the Angels had two comp round picks, but they were Skaggs at 40 overall and Richards at 42. Trout was drafted at 25, not in the comp round (Braves wouldn’t have had that pick).
If you’re arguing anything, be mad the Braves didn’t select him at 7, when they selected Mike Minor instead. 23 teams passed on Trout in that draft, including the Braves. Hell, the Angels had picks 24 and 25 and picked Randal Grichuk at 24, so even they passed on him in a way. And the reason I said don’t wish for a do over is because if that happens, Trout goes 1 to the Nats, Harper goes 1 overall to them the following year and then your division rival has Trout and Harper for 7 years.
Jon429
It was also Schuerholz’s last year as GM. He wanted to win before he retired and thought Tex was the missing piece to get the Braves into the post season that year.
AA said he learned a lot from Friedman in LA so I’m betting one of those things is to put more value on prospects and internal development. Doubtful we’ll see another Teixeira-like deal anytime soon.
ericl
Anthopoulos never cared about keeping his prospects when he was in Toronto. He traded half our farm system & Toronto currently has very little to show for it.The Donaldson trade was one of the few that worked out for the Jays. The only other piece still around is Tulowitski & that might be the worst contract in baseball. Anthopoulos traded away so many young pitchers that the Jays still haven’t replenished their pitching prospects in the system. He’ll trade prospects if he has the chance. If he doesn’t trade prospects, it is probably because someone else in the front office or ownership is telling him not to
its_happening
Nobody has panned out for Colorado in that Tulo deal. That had to be done to cut the cancer that was Jose Reyes. Hoffman would probably be a better pitcher just by staying away from Colorado but as it stands he’s still struggling.
The real issue with Toronto during that time was the fact they drafted a ton of pitchers, and how many outside of Toronto has done much? Syndergaard? During Ricciardi and AA’s time the organization hasn’t drafted or developed great talent. Vernon Wells was Gord Ash’s pick. Halladay was Ash.
GarryHarris
Drafting players then developing them just has to be more difficult than anyone can ever know. It must feel like Alchemy to every organization.
kbarr888
Agree^^^……….Extremely tough job to “predict how players will develop”.
GM’s are hoping to “Strike Lightning In A Bottle” most of the time. Nobody knows who will pan out and who won’t. 10% are predictable, I’d guess……the rest are a crap shoot.
Little Whirl
I’ll never understand this narrative (and including Josh Donaldson is kind of goofy as he was an offseason acquisition). Without those trades, Toronto is likely still as irrelevant as they had been for the ~20 years leading up to the trade deadline in 2015. I don’t think anybody involved regrets anything there. Finally, if you’re implying that the David Price trade “didn’t work out” for Toronto, well, let’s just say that I disagree & heartily so.
its_happening
Price deal had to be made once the Tulo deal was made.
Dustin Michels
Yeah I tend to agree he will trade some prospects. I think he wanted to get know the system first and see what he had in his first year.
I’m a Tigers fan so his about this trade proposal:
Detroit trades Fulmer and Nick Cast
Atlanta trades Anderson,Riley,Pache and Touissant
GarryHarris
I don’t think the Braves expected to be in the hunt this season. If the Braves acquire players, it will be pitchers. They should stick with the original long term plan for Austin Riley to man 3B. Their farm has many players ready or near ready.
econ101
Realmuto is performing at a high level NOW, and is controlled for several more years at a position the Nats desperately need. Not only do prospects fail, but the emergence of Soto would make losing Robles a bit less painful. In my opinion, Rizzo should pull the trigger. Realmuto is a stud. Robles COULD be. Good trade. Hopefully a win-win.
JKB 2
A relief pitcher like Hand makes alot of sense for the Braves
Little Whirl
It would almost certainly “hurt” to acquire Brad Hand given his talent/years of control, but he’s probably the most desirable RP on the market, at least arguably. I doubt he moves though given the plethora of likely more affordable options out there. .
nybraves923
If Realmuto is not dealt at the deadline( I don’t believe he will be) I believe the Braves will really look to go after him in the off season. Nats are just reaching for anyone and everyone.
Mjm117
Ian, Touki, Contreras and Waters should do it.
Niekro
Two things the Nationals should be asking themselves is how likely is it they can win this year and how likely is it they can re-sign Harper, both seem like long shots but not impossible. The Yankees most likely being out on Harper helps but the Phillies are positioned to make him very wealthy.
Paul Heyman
The Phillies are probably going to wait for Trout, but it’s not like they can’t sign Harper to a deal and either trade for Trout or wait to sign him next year.
Paul Heyman
Rays trade Nate Eovaldi to the Nats for Hellickson, a prospect, and cash.
doxiedevil
Ironic, Braves beat Folty out of 200K in arbitration and he makes the all star team. Atlanta is all about profit, if the luck into a deal or wildcard so be it. They will wait for kids to come up……no hurry.
ronnyalton
Pithes love Velocity…. You should be beaten with a sock filled with coins. You have lost your fu#&ing mind. Worst trade proposal i have literally ever seen on this site. May god have mercy on your soul.
johnsonjack87
How Much Will It Help If Either Right Now Or Sometime Before The Trade Deadline,Brian Cashman Trades Albert Abreu,Domingo Acevedo,Clint Frazier & Estevan Florial For Either Madison Bumgarner,Cole Hamels,Patrick Corbin,James Paxton,Danny Duffy,Jacob DeGrom,Chris Archer,Felix Hernandez,Tyson Ross Or Michael Fulmer?
RedRooster
Stop Commenting Like This You Dolt!