While the Mets have received substantial interest in both Jacob deGrom and Noah Syndergaard, a trade of either still seems unlikely to happen, per James Wagner of the New York Times (all links to Twitter). The Mets are seeking elite prospects and/or young MLB-ready talent for both pitchers, and it’s been tough to find a fit. Contending clubs, such as the Braves and Yankees, have that type of talent but are reluctant to include it in deals. Other contenders, like the Giants and Diamondbacks, don’t necessarily have the type of pieces the Mets are seeking in return. As Wagner notes, many of the best prospects in baseball are on non-contenders/rebuilding teams, such as the White Sox, Blue Jays and Padres — clubs that are spending more effort to trade pieces away at the moment. Wagner adds that he hears the Padres like Syndergaard, though, and hope to contend in the near future, so they could pursue him this offseason. For now, however, Asdrubal Cabrera, Jeurys Familia and Zack Wheeler are the likeliest Mets to be moved.
More from the NL East…
- Adding a reliever or two appears to be the Braves’ top priority prior to the July 31 non-waiver deadline, tweets David O’Brien of The Athletic. Atlanta could alter that approach and pursue a rotation option, but there’s a considerably larger supply of available relievers, even after this morning’s blockbuster sending lefty Brad Hand and right-hander Adam Cimber from the Padres to the Indians. General manager Alex Anthopoulos recently suggested that the team would be reluctant to part with too much young talent in order to acquire a rental player.
- It’s not entirely clear what the Phillies were offering in their efforts to acquire Manny Machado prior to the trade that sent him from Baltimore to L.A., but Jayson Stark of The Athletic tweets that the Orioles did “extensive background work” on right-hander Adonis Medina, outfielder Adam Haseley and left-hander JoJo Romero. Ultimately, though, the Orioles believed that the Phillies couldn’t (or perhaps weren’t willing to) match the upside that existed in headliner Yusniel Diaz, which prompted the O’s to ship Machado to the Dodgers.
- Though many Phillies fans are disheartened to see Machado head to the Dodgers, Jim Salisbury of NBC Sports Philadelphia writes that the club will remain active on the trade market. Salisbury lists Twins shortstop Eduardo Escobar, another impending free agent in the midst of a strong season, as a potential target for the Phils. Escobar, 29, is hitting .271/.327/.507 with 14 homers and an MLB-leading 35 doubles to this point in the 2018 season. He’s better at third base than at shortstop but has substantial experience at both positions. On the pitching side of things, Salisbury suggests that Jeurys Familia, Felipe Vazquez and J.A. Happ could all emerge as targets for the Phils. Adding Happ could allow the team to move Vince Velasquez or Nick Pivetta to the ’pen, Salisbury adds.
- It’s been suggested that if the Marlins don’t trade All-Star catcher J.T. Realmuto this summer, the team could approach him about a long-term contract in the offseason. Realmuto spoke with Andre C. Fernandez of the Miami Herald about that possibility, and while he stressed that his current emphasis is on the 2018 season, he’s not closed off to the idea even after last offseason’s reported request for a trade. “If they approached me, I wouldn’t be opposed to having the conversation,” said Realmuto about a possible extension. “…The fact that they would think of me that way, to build around me, is an honor.” Realmuto acknowledged the Marlins’ improved play recently — they’re 21-18 over their past 39 games — and expressed confidence that the club will continue to improve over the season’s second half.
arp7241
I wouldn’t mind the Braves going all in for deGrom.
dirtydan
Freddie Freeman, Albies and Acuna would do it
bravesfan
I would mind. lol. Mets would mind. Yes I would love him, but not enough to mortgage our entire farm which would likely be the case.
tharrie0820
Degrom is the type of player you mortgage your farm for. top 5 player at his position and he’s not just a rental
jkurk_22
You say that, but everyone still criticizes the Red Sox and their lack of prospect capitol due to trading for Chris Sale and Craig Kimbrel (yes I know there were a few other trades made, but most of the ‘good’ prospects traded were involved in these two trades). My point is, yes Degrom is great and he is worth top prospects, but it’s probably not a good idea to mortgage you farm for him or anyone really. Especially since as much as I hate to say it, the Braves are likely more than just a Degrom away from sure fire World Series threats. I’d rather we save the prospects unless a good deal comes around and keep going for the future
DarkSide830
You aren’t giving your entire farm for him. Braves have the most deep farm in basball. You could give Wentz + Allard + Contreras and be most of the way to a deal, and still have loads of depth.
jdgoat
Aha that’s not close to enough to land Degrom imo
rocky7
There is less of a chance the Mets would trade DeGrom to Atlanta then entertaining the thought of trading him to the Yankees.
Trading him, within their division would never, never happen…..they’d have to watch DeGrom beat them 3-4 times a year and there is “0” chance that the Wilpons will ever sign up for that.
nymetsking
Winning the backpage trumps winning on the field to the Wilpons. Trading deGrom to the Yanks is a backpage loss unless they bent the Yanks over for Torres, Andujar, Sheffield & Adams. Even then, it’d be a push if the Yanks won a Series with deGrom and the Mets won two with that core.
slider32
Cashman will just wait 2 years when he becomes a free agent, by then he will be a good short term free agent.
mikeyank55
It’s great to be totally delusional, right King?
That’s a great trade of your dreams.
callingoutdummies247
Damn Mike, you beat me too it
oriolesravenstimberwolves04
Agreed the Braves should absolutely attempt to get Degrom. If you get the chance look up Braves farm system logjam. There aren’t enough promotions to go around
frankthetank1985
So based on that, maybe a Noah for Mejia and another prospect or two deal with the padres?
deSynmatzvey
Noah is 25 and is a top ~15 pitcher in baseball with 3+ years of control yet. Gonna cost more than that
Knowthemarket
The man can’t stay off the DL. He’s pitched one full season in four years. At nearly 26 with already having an extensive injury history I don’t know that I would trade Meija to get Syndagaard
Birch
He pitched fully healthy for 24 starts following his initial call-up. Don’t know where you’re getting his extensive injury history from. He had a lat injury that caused him to miss significant time. He’s added one injury to that and neither of them correlate with one another.
mikeyank55
True Birch, though he has definitely caught cespedesitis. So trips to the DL seem necessary to avoid boredom.
ExileInLA 2
Noah and Rosario for Gore, Mejia, Quantrill and Urias.
keepinthafaithsd1
They must have really good crack in LA cause your tweakin…
bigkempin
They must have really good crack where you’re from because those prospects aren’t from LA. Stick to the WNBA
a37H
What? I’m so confused. He was commenting about ExileinLa having LA in his name. Not that the prospects are from LA. Maybe stick to just not commenting
keepinthafaithsd1
You must be on drugs i was reffering and replied to you saying noah and rosario for Gore Mejia quantrill and urias and they are all from SD… you make no sense..
keepinthafaithsd1
You are just as stupid like i said above i was reffering to the noah and rosario for quantrill mejia gore and urias. Maybe you should stick to reading comprehension before you open your mouth.
jamesalba32
If they want Rosario AND Syndergaard they need to come with Mejia and Tatis Jr just for starters. People act like Rosario wasn’t the 4th ranked prospect in all of baseball last year
jakethesnizake
I think this quote is BS as far as the Yankees go:
“Contending clubs, such as the Braves and Yankees, have that type of talent but are reluctant to include it in deals.”
They would absolutely include that type of talent for either of Syndergaard or deGrom. It’s the Mets who won’t part with those players if it means dealing to the Yankees.
That’s a stupid approach for a team that can gain big returns on players that are in high demand right now. If the Yankees offer the best package, they absolutely should consider it.
Any fear they have about watching deGrom or Thor thrive with a crosstown rival would be negated by the likelihood that at least one of the guys they get in return (Frazier/Andujar/Sheffield/Florial) will thrive in Queens for years to come. I’d bet Cashman would include two of those guys plus more to get either of these pitchers from the Mets.
its_happening
The Mets may be thinking if they win the Manny Machado offseason sweepstakes they can contend. Not saying that’s true, but Asdrubal is a free agent and with a healthy Cespedes they might believe they are still contenders for 2019. Therefore holding onto DeGrom & Syndergaard makes sense. But they’d be wise to deal Asdrubal, Ramos, Familia, Blevins.
Tom
On what planet are the Wilpons going to spend the kind of money it will take to get Machado?
RunDMC
The same planet that Cespedes is healthy.
moviepoopshootdotcom
Dead on balls accurate
its_happening
Look, I’m not saying this is what they are doing. To keep their assets in the starting rotation means they aren’t rebuilding in 2019. In order for that to work out they’d have to be in on the Machado sweepstakes.
The point; do one or the other. Go for Machado, or rebuild. Pick one.
jakethesnizake
CaseyPartner, I totally agree….so annoying when you hear them call this crap a “sweepstakes”. I’m pretty sure it was one of Heyman, Jayson Stark or Rosenthal.
jakethesnizake
Machado ain’t signing with the Mets, but I get your point.
My point, above all else, is that the Yankees would pony up legit prospects for either guy (and who don’t come with Machados price tag). To claim otherwise is buffoonery.
its_happening
Jake I hear ya. The Mets just can’t stand pat and not do one or the other. If they aren’t being serious about next year they should think about 4-5 years from now. As for the Yankees….yeah, they would stack the chips for a stud like DeGrom. Will they? Don’t know. But a team might do it in the offseason if DeGrom isn’t dealt at the deadline. Possibly the Yankees if they feel they made a mistake NOT getting him at the deadline.
Caseys.Partner
Why wouldn’t Machado sign with the Mets?
A-Rod wanted to sign with the Mets eighteen years ago. The Mets publicly went to war to drive A-Rod and Boras away.
Bryce Harper would sign with the Mets too.
The only issue keeping the Mets from signing both Machado and Harper is Fred Wilpon stealing that money from Mets fans.
mikeyank55
That’s another reason Casey that true Mets fans should suffocate the finances of the team by boycotting both buying tickets for games AND not watching SNY.
TheMikeAG
Harper and/or Machado to the Mets… You must’ve forgotten to use the sarcastic font.
mikeyank55
Hello Trim. Earth calling. Time to plug into reality outlet.
Manny is going from a perpetual loser to the Dodgers for a post season run. Then he’s going to field offers based upon two factors:
1-Financial Package
2-Potential of Winning
Which one of those do you not get?
1-Cheap Wilpon’s (aka Abbott and Costello.
2-Chances of winning in the next 5 years: ZERO
Mets are a mess with an old riddled roster and no farm system.
dust44
Yah. Frazier is absolutely available for deGrom or Thor. Probably for Fulmer too. The Yanks also have some high level arms even without them including Sheffield or Adams. I think Acevedo, Stephens and Frazier maybe a low level guy or 2 for deGrom and Familia
jakethesnizake
I don’t think that gets it done for either. Adams sucks so let’s not hype him up.
Any package would start with two of their top 10 guys and you go from there. It’s identical to the Chris Sale situation. Pony up the talent or sit on your thump. They got Kopech and Moncada plus others.
mikeyank55
If Adams sucks jake, then he would be perfect for the Mets. Bundle him with some other risky minor leaguers and the Mets will have plenty of players to shuttle around between the team, AAA and the DL.
jdgoat
Lmao that’s a horrible deal for the Mets. Would you trade two years of Severino for that package?
fabulous61
The Yankees have already said NOBODY is getting Sheffield. I can see why y’all aren’t GMs somewhere.
brucenewton
The Mets would likely want Torres. Cashman has stated he will not trade him. Do the Yankees have a better shot at a WS the next three years with deGrom or Torres? Cashman must think Torres. If not I’m not sure why he’s holding the trade up.
ronnsnow
Would the Braves be willing to pay the price for both Vazquez and Starling Marte together?
As a Pirates fan I’m trying to see what would get us the most back. I know the Braves have alot of pitching prospects but how much is too much?
its_happening
Probably not. AA wants to protect the cupboard for now.
WAH1447
They wouldn’t be after marte and I doubt they would give up a top 5 prospect maybe kolby allard is the most they would want to offer for Vazquez, plus he really isn’t all that experienced anyways as a closer
braves25
That would be a huge return for the Pirates! I am not sure Atl would part with that much! As a fan Marte, Acuna, and Inciarte would be a very nice outfield!
Soroka would likely be off the table. Could 1 of either Wright or Anderson packaged with Allard, Fried, and Pache be enough to at least get the conversation going?
fabulous61
That’s too much. Not likely Allard nor Pache are going anywhere. Pache was one of if not the top homer guy for the Braves in spring training. Pache is the right fielder of the future.
joew
the price for Felipe is bound to be crazy high. All-star closer crazy contract control and a low price… top on marte a gold glover who is good with a bat…. the braves and no one else would pay for both unless the need is crazy high.
add on to the price that that pirates are now (surprise) not so far out of the hunt.
IMO: pirates should be looking at picking up rentals and semi rentals (happ, hamels, soria,Mesoraco) to fill in positions for a run at the wild card.
Why? The pirates have little in the way of trade bait that has much value… but they can get ‘cheaper’ rentals to make a push then off load freese, dickerson, harrison, cervelli, nova in the off season if their performance improves.
of course there is still a little time before the deadline.. by the time the dead line hits the pirates could be 10games under .500 then.. yeah.. whoops hahaha 😉
acmeants
The Braves should be looking at Polanco as their next RF.
RunDMC
Acuna is their next RF when Kakes inevitably moves on. That could change with a short-term sweetheart deal, but Acuña would be better suited for RF at SunTrust.
bravesfan88
Pache has the ability to immediately move up and provide excellent defense in CF; HOWEVER, he’s still only in Advanced A-Ball…
His plus, plus defense and his plus arm are definitely Pache’s carrying tools, but he’s worked extremely hard on his approach at the plate. He’s cut his K rate down by 3% to 17%, but he’s still walking at a miserably low rate of 4%
Even with his low walk rate, Pache is putting up the following line: .290/.316/.440 with a 112 wRC+..
He also had never even hit a HR in his short professional career, but with his new approach he’s tapped more into his power by hitting 8 HR’s in 340 ABs coupled with 17 2B and 5 3B. All together Pache has more than doubled his previous career ISO of ~.070. This season, Pache has raised his ISO ALL THE WAY up to .150!!
That improvememt in power has also translated into helping Pache’s overall hit tool improve. Not only is he striking out alot less, hes also manahed to raise his batting average from .280 to .290, while also managing to lower his previous BABIP from .360 down to .335…
Pache is still only 19, and he won’t turn 20 until the middle of November, so he’s typically much younger than his current competition. Even still, Pache is developing excellently, and all the hard work he did this past off-season has already paid major dividends. He has a 6’3″ 190 pound frame, which he still has some projecton for growth. With Pache still growing, he should be able to tap into even more power, having scouts labeling him as potentially a player that could hit 15-20 HR’s. Couple that, with his already Major League, GG caliber defense, his excellent ML-ready arm, his plus speed, and an improving hit tool, and the Braves have their next big-time prospect coming through their ranks..
With another productive off-season, it wouldn’t shock me at all to see Pache’s stock take a meteoric rise, similar to that of Juan Soto this year. Like I stated earlier, he could already start defensively and be among the game’s elite defensive CF’s. Braves’ fans might expect to see Pache get a cup of coffee next September, if he continues to make adjustments at the plate.
bravesfan88
After Pache, the next 3 solid CF/RF prospects the Braves have are Isranel Wilson (Adv-A, Drew Waters (A), and Greg Jenista (A)..
Wilson has the highest ceiling of the bunch, since he’s a LEGIT 5-tool prospect, but he’s also the most likely to bust out, considering he’s been terribly inconsistent with high peaks, but more often lower valleys..As of now, even though they’re at the same level, Pache is just clearly the more consistent prospect at this stage in their development. It’ll really take Isranel reaching his full potential to surpass Pache, but I’m not so sure Izzy is capable of reaching his full potential..
Drew Waters has been an absolute menace to A-Ball pitchers, and has provided them with nothing but nightmares!! He’s already tapping into his power potential, has already hit 30 doubles this season, and he’s even swiping bases with relative ease. He should become a fixture among top 100 lists very, very soon, but he won’t pass Pache, unless the Braves decide to be extremely aggressive with Waters. Since this is only Waters first professional full season out of high school, that’s probably not in Waters best interest..
The prospect that may challenge Pache, as the Braves next top tier prospect to make it to the big leagues, is Jenista. A product of Wichita State, Jenista has really come out swinging since the Braves drafted him this year. He’s already tapping into his plus power potential, and it is clear that he has an advanced hit tool thus far. Unlike Wilson and Waters, Jenista is more polished, since he had time to improve his game in college, even winning the latest Cap Cod league’s MVP honors. He should start 2018 in Advanced A, but I wouldn’t be at all suprised to see Jenista get an early jump to AA if he proves too advanced for High A Florida..
Even with 3 extremely talented prospects, and even with Waters and Jenista already showing out, my money is still on Pache being the Braves next big prospect.
fabulous61
Acuna will likely be in Center Field within the next 2 years. I wouldn’t be surprised to see Ender dealt at some point within that 2 years and Markakis signed to a 1 year deal until Pache is ready.
southi
Drew Waters should definitely rocket up public prospect charts but Pache is, as you said, likely to be the braves next big position player prospect. Wilson has the tools but his makeup is questionable. The flashes for Wilson have been there, but he still has a high bust chance.
southi
For Marte and Vasquez together??
Right now I wouldn’t hesitate to send Inciarte, Allard, Alex Jackson, Travis Demerritte, and Joey Wentz to the Pirates.
That would immediately better the braves offense, without drastically hurting the defense. It would also means the braves could kick Sam Freeman to the curb and better the bullpen.
Both Marte and Vasquez are good controllable assets that would significantly help the braves.
joew
I’m baffled why people think the pirates would trade or would want to trade felipe. He is under control through 2023 through options and relatively cheap until he reaches those option years. Unless they’re getting elite near ready prospects (plural) at needed positions…. I don’t see talks going far
66TheNumberOfTheBest
If the Indians offered Mejia AND McKenzie, maybe I’d look for a new closer, but…agreed, short of a “too good to say no” deal, there is no reason to trade a 25 year old All Star with 6 years of cheap control.
joew
Mejía is a Padre now
ronnsnow
Look at the returns that Chapman and Ken Giles got. Cashing in on Vazquez now might be a good idea.
joew
if they can get a Torres type and another top 100 ok.. talk some and if you can milk it further… maybe go for it. but really. The pirates would be worse next season with out felipe unless they go make a big signing (haha hahahaha ha…) or get another arm back that effectively replaces felipe
and it isn’t like they’re going to get Chapman type return on felipe. Chapman had established himself as a top reliever.. felipe is still working on that
Caseys.Partner
The Pirates aren’t going anywhere. If you are not headed for the playoffs then it’s a great time to sell a closer.
Relievers are volatile.
justinept
1- Closers are volatile. They can go south in a hurry.
2- A losing team has no real need for a closer.
3- Control through 2023 for an above-average late-inning reliever could bring back 2 top-50 prospects at the deadline.
4- They’re one of the easiest pieces to replace during the off-season of a team decides it has the pieces to contend.
tharrie0820
I think you need to look at the return for Brad hand, and revise #3
joew
1 true, but one bad outing out of 10 can really skew stats.
2.. pirates have very little chance of being a winning team with out a closer especially given the pen and pitching in general has been their biggest weakness.
3. they’re not going to get two top 50s for him unless someone is desperate.
4. you say that like they pirates would be able to pull it off. the past few seasons they haven’t been able to effectively fill in pitching roles.
Mjm117
(Finally)Building a long-term winning ball club around Realmuto would be nice but I’ve seen that movie before. Cautiously optimistic.
jekporkins
In their 25 or so years of existence there is one thing everyone knows about Miami – don’t trust a word they say. Ever.
Mjm117
And they’re automatic to win it all whenever they make it to the postseason.
sluman46953
what are realistic returns for degrom syndergaard wheelier matz cabrera familia and please mets trade and rid of cespedes
Padres2019ha
Padres will be trading their surplus of prospects for bonafide, young, controllable ready mlb’rs
Syndergaard to the Padres for
Renfroe, Mejia, Quantrill, Spangenberg
Realmuto the the Padres for
Hedges, Laurer, Naylor, and a low level guy(Still have rising prospect C Austin Allen as backup)
Resign Galvis 2 year 8 mil
Sign Donaldson for 3B 2 yr 40mil
Sign Kuechel 2 yr w 1 yr opt out
Resign Ross 3 15 mil
Lineup:
Margot
Realmuto
Myers
Donaldson
Hosmer
Urias
Cordero
Galvis
Rotation:
Syndergaard
Kuechel
Ross
Lucchessi
Paddack
Allen
Closer:
Some waiver claim we’ll turn into an all star
Houston We Have A Solution
No way mets do that or marlins.
Itll take a stronger package for syndergaard. Padres have the prospects but itll take qunatril morejon espinoza easily for syndergaard. Padres have enough pitching with Lucchesi Lauer Lamet Paddack Gore Nix Baez Allen they can afford to go after a bonafide ace.
Caseys.Partner
“qunatril morejon espinoza easily for syndergaard.”
ROFLOL!
Preller would load those three onto his back and carry them to NYC for Thor.
You don’t know who the Padres best prospects are.
Cat Mando
This from the same brilliant mind that spent two days telling the world the the Phillies were bidding against themselves for Machado.
bleacherbum
The Padres shouldn’t even entertain that. Stay the course. Let the pitching develop like Atlanta has. No need to knee jerk to acquire an ace right this minute:
RedRooster
This from the same brilliant mind that questioned me when I said Machado will be traded to a team that has their eyes on this year and that they won’t be concerned with keeping him beyond 2018 and thinks that Rich Hill and Yoenis Cespedes signed because they liked their first two months in LA/NY rather than because they overpaid and feels the need to be jerk to anyone who disagrees with you.
So basically you are what happens when an unrivaled ego meets a constant state of stupidity. Let’s follow that note with one of your stupid expressions.
Have a nice day.
thegreatcerealfamine
I’m surprised you’re back on this board with the Padres having spit the bit like we all knew they would.
Houston We Have A Solution
Hand netted them top a 5 to 20 prospect depending who you ask who is MLB ready. Preller got his asking price.
keepinthafaithsd1
Especially one thats not healthy
DVail1979
I wasn’t going to say anything but as bad as the offer for Thor was … why in the world do you think the Marlins would accept that “package” for Realmuto?
Padres2019ha
Don’t be afraid to raise your hand Dvail.
oh I dunno, Hedges is still a gold glove catcher who will be an all star if he can raise his avg 20 pts. Naylor is a top 100 prospect, and Laurer is a #4 starter w 5+ years of control.
Quantrill was included in the proposal for Thor. Renfroe(former top 30 ready mlb’rs w upside) Mejia(top 25, Keith law#5 prospect(Spangenberg) Former top 10 pick that’s versatile and still under control for a couple years. So, those offers seem reasonably fair, and a good start to negotiations. Meanwhile we keep all of our top prospects(minus newly acquired Mejia and Quantrill)
Blue_Painted_Dreams_LA
Stop with the prospect rankings please. They are meaningless in creating a package. Teams don’t look at prospect packages and use them as FV evals. You’re basically assuming the Mets are going to look fondly upon a guy that they may not be convinced can catch; therefore diminishing his actual value especially if they are high on Alonso. Because realistically if they don’t believe he can catch then he better be on of the top offensive corners with power. Quantrill, sure maybe if they are convinced he could be a TOR guy, but filling a package with 26/27 meh corner fillers isn’t really conducive to how the Mets probably feel about Thor. The same goes with Realmulto in a sense that of their ask was/is a premium positional impact prospect Hedges/Naylor don’t cut it just because they were/are former 100 prospects. If you’re asking about those guys expect to be asked about guys you don’t want to give up at all in any circumstances. It’s part of the reason why these trades are so unrealistic. You have to build a foundation first before you make those moves. But yeah those packages make sense on the Padres side, but def not on the other sides.
halos101
that marlins package isn’t even a starting point. mets one isn’t enough to
bleacherbum
Too many moving pieces.
bleacherbum
Mejia isn’t going anywhere, he is going to be on the next winner in San Diego. However it does make Austin Allen expendable. Allen, Naylor and Asuaje are all going to be logjams here soon that need big league playing time. That group I’d be okay moving for a TOR arm. Syndergaard scares me price wise an the type of pitcher he is, big arm. I’d rather look elsewhere, too pricey.
Codeeg
Mejia is going to have 2 good year then the padres are going to sign him to a great extension and then trade him for the “real” rebuild.
bleacherbum
Why isn’t this rebuild real? How much more re-building needs to be done when you have the number 1 farm system in the game. Stay focused on what’s going on with whatever team you root for because you obviously don’t root for this team. Later troll.
SixFlagsMagicPadres
The current rebuild is the “real” rebuild. The Padres will Iikely end up with the #1 farm system in baseball by season’s end and in a few years from now, the NL west might be looking very different. It baffles me why people come in and bash rebuilding teams and their fans. Do you have nothing else better to do? Were you doing this in Cubs and Astros articles years ago when they were rebuilding?
fabulous61
Braves are going after Keuchel during the off season.
Bruin1012
I think both DeGrom and Thor are available but barely. The Mets would have to be given offer they could not refuse is my guess to move either one. This is why it probably won’t happen.
RunDMC
ATL would be more interested if they took NYM seriously. Add in the fact that we’re still figuring out long-term assets and we’d have to part with some of them – that realistically could be better playing for our rivals – makes ATL gun shy. I’d feel a lot better about this if the other team was OAK, LAA, KC, etc. But if Allard, Wright, Touki are better than the guys we keep, we’re going to be reminded of it by Keith Hernandez/Ron Darling every other game.
Houston We Have A Solution
Padres should offer Quantril, Morejon, Espinoza, Naylor for Syndergaard
bleacherbum
Replace Espinoza with Michael Getty’s and I’m down. Mets aren’t going to want him recovering from TJ. His value is low, Padres are better holding him, re-jabbing him completely and keeping him in the plans to being a major contributor to the next competitive Padres team.
The-Beast
Syndergaard isn’t going to pull close to his true value with his injury concerns and the looming TJ. It would be like expecting to pull full value out of Wil Myers.
Mikel Grady
Cubs offer package (3) of Schwarber happ Almora russell Montgomery caratini aldolays? Rotation of degrom Lester darvish Hendricks and Quintana .
Houston We Have A Solution
Happ, Russell, Caratini, Lange, Little, Bote would be what the Mets would want for Syndergaard.
Rich Hill’s Elbow
Would Duke and Rodney be enough to aquire Toussaint from the Braves?
RunDMC
H-no. Toussaint is passing most of our P prospects on many lists and could be our MiLB Pitcher of the Year (with Bruce Zimmerman being a contender). I’d love to think AA can see when stock is up and stock is down on his players and the return value.
halos101
zach duke and fernando rodney? Braves would not do that
66TheNumberOfTheBest
What if it were John Wayne and Rodney Dangerfield?
Resurrected, of course.
jjburke2017
Redsoxs for syndergurad for devers and a couple of prospects
ctguy
Devers and “a couple of prospects” isn’t enough for Syndergaard
Bruin1012
The Red Sox would almost certainly have to move Devers for DeGrom or Syndergaard and it smells like just the deal that DD would try and pull off. It would depend on how the Mets look at Devers if it would be feasible enough.
thegreatcerealfamine
Can we be realistic here, even with Devers the Sox don’t have enough to get Thor.
thegreatcerealfamine
*let alone deGrom
Bruin1012
Well they do it’s just doesn’t make sense to trade the guys that would get it done. I’m just saying that you know DD at least checked in with the Mets and probably would offer Devers and the Mets would probably say 10d and that would be that. I’m not saying Devers is enough but you never how another organization views guys like Devers who has enormous upside.
mikeyank55
That’s true though a 3B with a Swiss cheese glove sounds appealing to the Three Stooges.
Bruin1012
Probably said the same thing about Beltre when he had 29 errors his first year how did that work out for you.
bucketbrew35
Are the Padres really in a position to deal for an ace with a few years of remaining control?
SixFlagsMagicPadres
They would be stupid to do that, but this is just the media trying to stir the pot again since there likely won’t be any more big trades until closer to the deadline.
bleacherbum
If I’m the Padres I look to Baltimore and grab either Bundy or Gausman with access pieces rather than paying what the cost will be for Syndergaard.
Figure Bundy has a lot of mileage left on his arm. He isn’t a big power arm to the extent of Noah so the injury risks are more settling.
Send Baltimore Eric Lauer, Jorge Ona and Austin Smith.
Bundy slides into Lauers spot in the rotation and vise versa.
Baltimore adds another International power outfield bat to go with Diaz, Ona will play the other corner with Hays in the middle of them for the future outfield.
Austin Smith is a big armed former second round pick of Preller’s, just outside the top 30 and someone that is a nice project for a now rebuilding team in Baltimore.
Why waste anymore bullets, waive the white flag and maximize value with returns.
MetsYankeesRedSox
Dustin Pedroia for David Wright straight up
thegreatcerealfamine
How do you expect anybody to take you seriously with that username?
MetsYankeesRedSox
What’s wrong with my name?
thegreatcerealfamine
Gosh I can’t imagine.
mikeyank55
ADD
sportsjunkie24
Mets are not going to get alot for degrom and wheeler they cant stay healthy
mb22
DeGrom can’t stay healthy?
Pax vobiscum
Matt Klentak still just watching…..,
jwr0223
My fear based on Met history is that they don’t make a trade, don’t extend deGrom and then make the same type of moves they made last year with the same results. Then they wave bye-bye to deGrom after 2020 or sell low because they have lost leverage.
charliesnutlikker
Flaherty for degrom
Straight up
firstbleed
Cards would still have to add another decent prospect + may a lower level one. 1 for 1 isn’t happening.
tonysdog01
Ok Met fans listen up. Don’t drink the kook aid that they’re serving. There are certain ideas out there that the minions want you to believe. Pay no attention to some Goober with a computer rating farm systems. Systems are cyclical. The Mets took DeGrom, Harvey, Matz, Wheeler, Familia and more recently Comforto, Nimmo, Lugo, Gsellman and a number of others out of their system. Some have been great others not as good just like other teams. The Mets system does not have much major league ready talent but they do have talent coming. Justin Dunn, Anthony Kay, David Peterson along with a number of other pitchers. Everyday players like Alonso, Gimenez, Guerrero. There are many others too.The Mets have signed some excellent international talent. Ronny Mauricio Adrian Hernandez last year and Francisco Alvarez and Freddy Valdez this year. Top prospects. Check it out. People just follow the line that the Mets are only rated 27 or whatever in farm systems. As players work their way up those rankings go up. I’m certainly not here to defend Met management but you have to be fair. The cupboard is not bare.
Bottom line: trade not to stockpile your system. Trade to get better. Teams don’t want to give up high end talent? That’s fine but don’t mention any of our pitchers because pitching is what they all need.
mikeyank55
Hey Tony.
27 is 27th.
Bottom of the stack.
ALL teams have players in the low minors that look good.
FEW actually make it, period.
So your line of thinking is NOT realistic. That’s why teams rarely deal their top prospects and are more willing to deal the lower prospects because it’s a lower % chance.
tonysdog01
The point is that it’s all cyclical. As you graduate players your system becomes more depleted. The Mets had a top five system a few years ago and now it’s down but they come back up. It’s not that the Mets system isn’t as good as some others now. It obviously isn’t but some writers just assume there is nothing there and it’s not true.
justreading
wow, they are one of the worst run farm and scouting teams in baseball and they do not have a management team in place to provide direction so they couldn’t even trade degrom or noah even if they discussed it, I do not even know what else to say……………………………..
tonysdog01
You know some of the non Yankee fans actually make reasonable offers for players. What the heck??
Backatitagain
Would like to see the Braves acquire Zack Wheeler from the Mets. Wheeler is naturally more affordable than deGrom or Syndergaard and could be obtained for a high ranked prospect and another MLB ready pitcher. I would suggest the Brave try to get Wheeler and Asdrubal Cabrera for Luis Gohara, Rio Ruiz and Brandon McCarthy. Wheeler would close for the Braves later in the season.
mb22
Looks like Yankees are punting this season .. doesn’t make sense .. they have the prospects to get either guy and won’t part with prospects? Cashman won’t make a deal if it’s anywhere near fair .. needs to be lopsided in Yankees favor .. works in certain situations but Yankees don’t have a chance with their SP as presently constituted .. JA Happ and Cole Hamels are not an upgrade
Bruin1012
I think part of the problem is that for Thor or DeGrom it would have to be a clear win for the Mets to even consider trading with the Yankees. Highly doubt Cashman will let that happen.
blackleather
very interesting, this Syndergaard/Padre rumor…but it makes sense, given the variety of prospects that SD has. And by that I mean, they have the sort of prospects to offer in trade for a superstar…and they have the prospects that they can use for less than that. And the assortment, is deep.
bleacherbum
I would assume the Padres go the route of similar small market clubs like Minnesota and Milwaukee and let their ace develop internally instead of paying an asinine price to acquire one.
When healthy Jimmy Nelson and Jose Berrios are two of the best young aces in the game. One of Gore, Quantrill, Paddack, Espinoza, Morejon, Seem to have the pedigree to be that guy in San Diego.
I’m all for adding a solid younger 3 via trade like a Gausman or Wacha but I wouldn’t pay the asking price for DeGrom, Thor or Archer. Get someone on that next tier with prospects that are blocked or that there are an abundance of in the organizations.
blackleather
I think you’re thinking conventionally, and there’s nothing wrong with that. But if there’s any substance to the rumor, what it tells me is that Preller is 5 steps or more past everybody’s pros/cons of why it should or shouldn’t happen. He’s so unpredictable, I won’t waste time trying to get in his head.
But I will throw this out there, where money is concerned…and say, I don’t think WilMyers is very long for the Padres, for a number of reasons. And yea, AJP will have to eat money, but not so much that extending someone like Syndergaard in the future, is impossible. One thing is for sure, he’s got pieces to get what he needs to get.
And with every other team in the West having more money, he’s got to think outside the box. He’s acquiring kids that will be all stars pretty soon. But they’ll be cheap for awhile. That’s impressive when you think about how much LA is paying their stars right now and for the foreseeable future.
sluman46953
why san diego .. tats is a shortstop. why not Toronto vlad or bisc. 3rd base and 2nd base
justreading
the mets do not have a management team in place to provide direction so they couldn’t even trade degrom or noah even if they discussed it, the 3 stooges just do not have that authority.
oh yea, preller is 5 steps ahead – he obtained meijia to DH for the padres in 2020
Armaday
Yankees are the ONLY team that can afford deGrom. He is an absolute perfect fit for them. Under contract beyond this season, keeps them under luxury tax, he has post season and World Series experience and has proven he can handle the pressure in NY. Mets should look for: Frazier, Drury, Sheffield, Florial, Abreu and one other prospect in return. Perfect trade for both teams needs.