Matt Harvey will be staying with the Reds despite a flurry of trade discussions, tweets ESPN’s Jerry Crasnick. In my opinion, Harvey remains a candidate to be traded in August.
Earlier Updates:
- The Giants have “entered the fray” for Harvey, tweets Jon Heyman of Fancred. MLB.com’s Mark Feinsand finds the Giants unlikely for Harvey, however.
- Reds beat writer Bobby Nightengale Jr., reporting for the Cincinnati Enquirer, would be surprised if Harvey isn’t traded today. Nightengale tweets that the Brewers and Braves have shown interest. He’s backed up by his father, Bob Nightengale of USA Today, who says the Braves have been Harvey’s most aggressive suitor. Nightengale Sr. also adds that the Chris Archer trade talks are slowing down the Harvey discussions, suggesting Harvey is a Plan B for some Archer suitors.
- On the other hand, Jon Heyman of Fancred says Harvey is not likely for the Braves, while the Brewers and Cubs are “among the main teams in the mix.” Similarly, David O’Brien of The Athletic hears the Braves are not in on Harvey. Harvey wouldn’t seem to have an opening in the Cubs’ rotation, unless perhaps Yu Darvish’s injury issues persist and Mike Montgomery is moved back to the bullpen. ESPN’s Jerry Crasnick hears the same interested parties as Heyman, regarding the Brewers and Cubs.
rtrgobraves
Please don’t Braves… even it it just costs international dollars.. just dont
baseballfanforever
What would the Braves gain by bringing in a 4.44 ERA pitcher ? Because he would be cheap??
Ian Gray
Please Alex No!!!!!!!! The last thing the braves need is a washed up pitcher with an ego twice as big as his best fastball. Won’t accept anything other than a starter position, and pays more attention to the radar gun reading than the batter he’s facing. No thank you!
woodstock005
Please don’t do it giants Bobby Evans
Giants not going any where
Giants had enough bad contract
Including Mark M
Sign 64 million four years not a single save???
cjbay
NOOOOOOO!!!! THEO…STAY AWAY!!
Tim Newport
Day games..Rush Street..
No problem.
ReverieDays
Montgomery is better than Harvey.
pinstripes17
Lol!
BravesFan80
I really hope the Braves don’t end up with Harvey. He’s a rental and not a very good one. If they do get him, I hope they don’t give up too much, as he’s not worth much.
Ray 14
Harvey wouldn’t be terrible to be had for insurance purposes, however, he wouldn’t be worth any cost paid for him.
brewcrew08
go get em Cubs!
michaelw
Cubs don’t need him. See the Brewers struck out again for a pitcher. Another year of wishful thinking fircsilly Brewerfans
IronBallsMcGinty
Rick Hahn will send the crew James Shields for a cooler of Gatorade and a couple buckets of bubble gum.
Zombeels
Do we really need a thread for Matt Harvey rumors? He’s a washed up has been and will bring back nothing.
Ray 14
3.82 ERA over last 7 outings with a new team, new coaches, etc. say otherwise. Plenty of starting pitchers that haven’t been as effective over last 7. Stil, it’s the trade deadline. Backup catchers get their own thread today.
Brad Connelly
I remember a pitcher in 1999-2001 going 17-17 with a 5.08 ERA and also in 2004 went 8-8 with a 4.20 ERA. Looks like “washed up” stats until Roy Halladay changed his throwing motion a few degrees. You know the rest.
thegreatcerealfamine
Give us a break.
nymetsking
Roy also humbly went to A & AA, and put in hard work to make a change. Humble and hard working do not apply here.
embalmer
Excuse me all to Hades? As a Reds fan, I would love for the Reds to give him a two year contract. He’s ten times better than Bailey or any one else on the roster. If they just give him away like they did Duvall this is one Reds fan that will give up on them after 50 years
aknott1
Giving away Matt Harvey is what would make you give up on the Reds after 50 years? He’s a #4 or 5 starter that they basically gave up nothing for 2 months ago.
embalmer
Yes it definitely will. I’m sorry, but I for one am tired of losing on the field and losing in trades. Reds scouting department and their assortment of gms are the worst of the worst.
thegreatcerealfamine
The Mets bumble-heads would like a word or two.
Dan8550
Worst of the worst huh? So when they scouted suerez, scooter, schebler, Peraza, Senzel makes them the worst. The reds are going for 500 baseball after the worst start prob ever lol. Harvey cost to much let him go. Duvall was trades for three players how did they give him away. Duvall is average defender not fast and a 200 hitter why would you want that?
embalmer
Duvall happens to have been a gold glove finalist so don’t give me crap about him being an average defender.
His home run total and rbis are heads above what we got for him. Senzel will never make a big league roster because he can’t stay off the disabled list! Peraza and Herrera will never be the duo that our “scouts” proclaimed them to be. Cody Reed can’t pitch his way out of a paper bag. He was what 1 – 12 or so when he was up? Finnegan, another Homer. Lamb, shall I continue? This front office sucks since Castellini bought them.
Dan8550
Bye Felicia! You really are on the nuts of a 200 hitter wow. You have no idea what prospect will do when they haven’t been given a chance. Gold glove what finalists. lol when at double a. The reds traded for two pitchers and and outfielder so unless somehow pitches are now crushing hr that i didn’t know about them your comments are mute. Peraza is hitting above 300 guess they got that one wrong hmm.. dilson didn’t he have a walk off the other day yes he did. Cody reed will be in the bullpen next year and still young. Tell me again what scouts your talking about that are the worst. Once again suerez that was traded is a future mvp. Peraza is hitting over 300 this year and is doing a good job on d. Senzel rose through the ranks fast and will be up next year. If you want duvall jay Bruce bill ham type of players you should be a triple a fan. If not shut up when you so don’t know what your talking about
embalmer
You’re crazy. Plain and simple. Go check your facts before commenting back to me.
Dan8550
So I’m crazy for throwing facts at you lol. You say Peraza is not going to be any good. He is hitting over 300. How many times do I have to say that. Dilson hit a walk off just the other day. What else do you want. Duvall has been to one all star game that he prob shouldn’t have been to. He is hitting right at 200 this year with 15 hrs. You want to keep him. That’s a laugh. Have you not watched the reds. Suerez is dang good and ohh he was an all star this year that according to you the worst front office ever acquired. They also acquired scooter who again you think the scouts for the reds are terrible. I wonder who watches these guys before the fo pulls the trigger? Jesse Winker is a way better hitter than duvall younger too. Schebler, Taylor trammel, maybe Senzel. Why do they need duval. What did you really think they could get for him a number 1 or 2 lmao. With due respect to all players on the refs Votto is prob the only player worth that kind of haul. You can sit at home thinking how you use to be a reds fan when they go to the playoffs next year with what you think is a terrible front office and the worst scouts. You make all other reds fans wish fans like you rooted for the cards
bravesfan
Don’t want him
acarneglia
Am I the only one who wants Harvey on the Yankees? I believe he wants to be a Yankee.
Yankeepride88
You’re the only one
dust44
I could c it honestly. I wouldn’t mind but only if they can flip Gray for a better starter or a good prospect. But that’s doubtful. So where’s he gunna pitch? Scranton?
Cincyshawn
He has always wanted to be a Yankee and I believe he will sign there in off season no matter where he goes today
thegreatcerealfamine
The Yankees are gonna sign Patrick Corbin. They’re more apt to bring back CC long before even considering Harvey, maybe in bizarro world though.
tomrogic
Better than lynn and would have cost the same. Probably shpuld have went for him
MetsYankeesRedSox
Harvey wants to play for that other NY powerhouse.
thegreatcerealfamine
You’re losing ground faster and faster.
tomselleck
I think the bigger story here is that the rest of us non-Reds fans did not know there was a Junior Nightengale
neonkeon23
corey ray matt Harvey straight up
Ray 14
Lots of articles out there linking the Brewers to Harvey.
jobusrum9
Yeah, no…
tiredolddude
NY writers tried to push this guy as the new Tom Seaver, but he never approached being great. After the Pirates lit him up, I’m surprised he’s still a target. Overrated
Brad Connelly
Everyone got lit up in that series against the pirates….
ekrog
Yes, 6 great outings and one bad one. Clearly he’s worthless.
desertbull
Harvey sucks. I hope the Brewers trade for him.
watup0100
If they get any prospect in a teams top 30 this is a big win for the Reds…
Cincyshawn
I don’t get why all these fans don’t want him… Since he been a Red he been model teammate and in 14 starts 10 of them he gave 3 runs or less… No team has 5th starter that good… And won’t have to give top prospects to get him…
Ray 14
Agreed. If not today, I definitely see him as a waiver wire trade.
mike127
Exactly–I don’t think anyone is looking for him to start game one of the World Series or even be on a playoff roster. He should cost next to nothing. Since the Cubs and Brewers are mentioned above—it would give the Brewers another experienced arm and for the Cubs possibly allow them to move Montgomery back to the pen to reduce the load on him and allow them to strengthen their pen…or at least, deepen. No cost—no big deal if someone nabs them.
And remember–with Hand going to the Indians, Eovaldi to the Red Sox, the guys to the Yankees, Machado to the Dodgers, Moose to the Brewers, Hamels to Cubs—-I’m pretty comfortable in saying that AT LEAST five of those deals won’t turn into a World Series championship. You really never know who will really help.
watup0100
Having watched many of his games with the Reds, I always felt uneasy with him on the mound. He left a lot of fastballs over the plate and I thought he could have been rocked in every outing. That being said, he definitely improved a bit. I want him to be flipped for a prospect rather than kept for nothing.
sameichel
It’s sucks that all the controllable major league startling pitchers that we trade him in August for all are worse than him
wilson09
So you’d just rather he stick around and the Reds get nothing for him at all?
allweatherfan
Now that he’s increased velocity and shown improvement-and in a tiny park-, I’d move him back to the pen.
jasonpen
I’ll take him. As a Cubs fan, it’s nothing but upside. If he blows, just cut him. You’re not giving up anything of value for him…
thegreatcerealfamine
Whoever buys the most rounds is a lock.
Vanilla Good
Tim gets the Harvey story? C’mon guys!
Mino kawa
Terry Collins: “good job, kid. Lets let the bullpen wrap it up”
Matt Harvey: “shut up, i got one more inning in me”
Mets lose world series.
Steven Chinwood
Mikey is that you?
frankf
We should go all in on Harvey, says the guy who’s been in a coma since 2015.
Colorado Red
Dick Williams and the rest of the FO of the Reds should be Fired.
Stupid is as the Reds do.
Harvey has been pitching well, even if it is just a lottery ticket, pick it up.
Man the Reds are destined for another 5 90 loss seasons.
mymaus
They have to hope he gets through waivers and pitches well in August.
schellis 2
If he pitches well in August he isn’t getting thru waivers. If he doesn’t nobody will want him.
wilson09
As a Reds fan, I find this stupid and extremely disappointing. The whole point in acquiring him was rehabbing his value (which he did) and then flipping him at the deadline. Holding onto him does the team no good. In fact, it blocks guys like Stephenson from getting a spot in the rotation. Makes no sense at all
thegreatcerealfamine
Does anything they’ve done the last 5 years make sense? From retaining and promoting Jockety to letting him hire Williams to everything they’ve touched is just truly sad.
hiflew
Guys like Stephenson are blocking guys like Stephenson from getting a spot in the rotation. No one can claim that the guys in AAA in Cincy like Stephenson, Reed, and Finnegan have never gotten a chance. They just didn’t do the job when they got their multiple chances.
That being said, holding Harvey makes no sense unless you are planning on retaining him after this season. That might not be a bad idea if the price is right.
wilson09
Stephenson pitched well down the stretch last year and has pitched well in AAA this year, he deserves a longer look at this point
sameichel
I like keeping because we already have enough young talent and keeping him allows us to avoid needling to rush these other young guys to the majors also he seems to like Cincinnati so he could sign a cheep 3 year deal at the end of the season
sameichel
Also we need to contend next year
wilson09
No way will he sign a cheap three year deal after this season, nor should the Reds do it. Harvey’s agent is Scott Boras and he just doesn’t do cheap deals. Harvey is destined to sign a one year deal to try and rehab his reputation further.. And committing to Harvey for 3 years at this point would just be stupid on the Reds’ part.
I really hope someone claims him in August and either the reds work out a trade or they just let him walk
sameichel
The last thing they should do is let him walk unless he get a giant deal in which we get a draft pick for him
wilson09
They don’t get a draft pick for him, regardless of who he signs with or for how much.
let him walk in August, save the $ for a free agent in the off season, and open up the roster spot for one of the young guys
sameichel
I believe Stephenson is better suited for the bullpen because he always struggles after the first time they the order
sameichel
Thru
redsraiderspurs44
Even at AAA Stephenson still tends to give up too many homers even with as well as he pitched the last month or two. That being said he still needs another opportunity. However I don’t think they should stop trying to win just to see what they have. Too bad Senzel got hurt with Duvall gone and Winker out for the season he could either be at second o in left with Gennett at the other position. Oh well.
redsraiderspurs44
*or
ThatBallwasBryzzoed
Would it even be that bad If matt harvey was in the bullpen for the Cubs. They could give the red chatwood and 100% of his contract. Harvey would still be in the bullpen. I’ll take that claim wne trade all day.