5:15pm: The Orioles “have had places to send” Jones, tweets Joel Sherman of the New York Post, but Sherman echoes Kubtako’s sentiments in reporting that Jones, to this point, does not want to waive his no-trade protection.
Specifically, Fancred’s Jon Heyman tweets that “there was a chance to go to Philly,” though it’s not clear if the two sides had firmly agreed on a deal that Jones vetoed or if he simply nixed the idea while the O’s and Phils were negotiating. Heyman cites Jones’ family, friends and charity works in the Baltimore community as reasons for Jones preferring to remain with the O’s, even at the cost of a potential playoff race in the season’s final couple of months.
11:43am: Orioles center fielder Adam Jones has been popular in the rumor mill as Tuesday’s non-waiver trade deadline looms, but it doesn’t appear he’ll be part of a deal in the coming days. As a guest on 105.7 The Fan on Sunday, Orioles general manager Dan Duquette revealed that Jones is likely to stay with the team through the the deadline (via Steve Melewski of MASNsports.com).
“I do. I believe he’ll be an Oriole on Wednesday,” Duquette said. “These veteran players it’s a tough, tough decision. Rest assured that we have wrestled with that decision.”
As Duquette alluded to, Jones has a major say in his future, given that the pending free agent is a 10-and-5 player. Jones would be able to veto any trade as a result, and so far, he has told the Orioles that’s what he plans on doing, Roch Kubatko of MASNsports.com tweets.
Jones’ situation could change, Kubatko notes, but as Dan Connolly of The Athletic (subscription required) explained earlier this weekend, he may not be in position to waive his no-trade rights in the middle of the season. Not only is the 32-year-old a Baltimore institution who has ongoing charitable endeavors in the city, but Jones also has a young family — one he may not want to uproot with a couple months left in the season. Of course, Jones told Melewski earlier this week that he’d like to play for a winner, which isn’t going to happen if he stays in Baltimore through 2018. The Orioles are competing for the No. 1 pick in next year’s draft, not a playoff spot, whereas teams interested in Jones are pushing for postseason berths. To this point, Jones has reportedly landed on the radars of the NL East-leading Phillies, the AL Central-leading Indians and even the below-.500 Giants, per Kubatko, who adds that Philly was “making a strong push” to acquire the veteran.
In the event he’s not dealt this month, Jones could still have a change of heart and end up on the move in August, when his pricey salary (he’s currently owed roughly $7.2MM of his remaining $17MM) would make him a candidate to clear trade waivers. Jones may not be a significant upgrade for many teams at this stage of his career, though, and between that and his salary, he’s unlikely to bring back much in a trade. The five-time All-Star has only offered league-average offensive production thus far in 2018, having batted .281/.307/.431 with a 98 wRC+ in 424 plate appearances. Worse, Jones has endured a third straight rough season in center, where he has accounted for minus-15 Defensive Runs Saved, a minus-10.1 Ultimate Zone Rating and minus-8 Outs Above Average. Unsurprisingly, all of those figures rank toward the bottom of the majors.
While Jones has fallen off in center, he’s nonetheless primed to finish the year at the position should he stick with Baltimore. Otherwise, Jones could move to a corner if a trade occurs this season or at least vacate center heading into 2019. For now, the question will continue to be whether Jones will close the year as a member of the Orioles – with whom he has played since 2008 – or a World Series hopeful.
RegularEd 2
Going to Philly isn’t necessarily “uprooting” his young family but it would be less convenient than staying with the Orioles.
I’m just interested in seeing what happens with his free agency since he recently purchased Cal Ripken’s old place for $3.465mm.
That’s not exactly peanuts.
justin-turner overdrive
Did you know baseball-reference has his career salary listed?
It IS peanuts to a guy with $100 mill!!!
sovtechno
3.5% of your total worth is hardly peanuts.
Polish Hammer
Really? If I was a millionaire and bought a $35,000 house I would consider it peanuts, I should have a $350,000 house with that wealth.
Phillies2017
If you want to pay me about $6m over two months to commute from my place in Philly to Baltimore, I’m down. Just hop on I-95 at like 6 to beat the traffic.
tonypro7
Or he can not waive his no trade clause, stay in Baltimore and STILL get that $6 million.
Polish Hammer
And enjoy all those winless nights at Camden Yards.
thegreatcerealfamine
Maybe there’s more important things to him.
sufferforsnakes
It is in Kalifornia, especially the SF area.
DannyQ3913
Uproot your family holmes let us know how you make out
bravesfan88
This is off-topic, involving Adam Jones, BUT I do have some… BREAKING NEWS…
Interestingly enough, one of the Braves’ top prospects, and one of MLB’s top 5 LHP prospects, 20 year old, Kolby Allard has been scratched from his start at AAA today…
It could be a precursor to a big move for Atlanta, or it could be nothing..lol Although, there have not been any reports of Allard suffering an injury, so either way, it is definitely an interesting development, and should leave me glued to MLBTR today!!
justin-turner overdrive
Allard is going to make his Braves debut, this isnt “breaking news” this is a thing I read on twitter like 2 hours ago
bravesfan88
Have you read that he’s actually been added to the roster yet??
I checked the Braves transactions, and he has not been added to the 25-man roster quite yet..
Also, all the reports I read said “he might” “he could be” in line to make his debut against the Marlins, etc..
Nothing I’ve seen says that Allard has officially been called up..
But thank you for bursting my bubble…lol
jkurk_22
Bursting your bubble? I’d rather call him up than trade him unless we’re making a move for Degrom or someone of his ilk, which isn’t likely. No way I’d want to move him for Archer and that’s what I would be afraid of
Boogaloo
Good God. Hes a decent prospect but stop overvaluing him.
What are the Braves planning on going wirh a 9 man rotation?
People need to be traded to upgrade the team.
acarneglia
That’s a good note
yaketymac
Allard is not dominant. He likely has a serviceable career ahead as a 4th or 5th started with above average poise.
None of that has anything to do with the fact Dan Duquette should be unemployed yesterday.
arc89
What the GM is saying we will not pay part of his contract just to get rid of him. Nobody wants Jones for the amount he is making. Instead of paying down on it they say just let him be a FA at the end of the year.
dimitrios in la
Well, I think it’s less about the money and more about what the O’s think is a good return. If he only fetches a fringe prospect, the O’s will do right by him and keep him through his contract.
Polish Hammer
Do right by him? Or take the draft pick compensation?
dave13
What draft pick compensation? He will not sign a contract large enough next off season to merit any draft pick comp
highplainsdriftr
Somewhere in a dark room Bobby Evans is plotting the trade details and Brian Sabean is putting the final balance touches on a 5 year 100 mil extension that matches the one he worked up for McCutchen.
Lefty_Orioles_Fan
“I do. I believe he’ll be an Oriole on Wednesday,” Duquette said. “These veteran players it’s a tough, tough decision. Rest assured that we have wrestled with that decision.”
Also maybe no team could use him as a CF’er
RunDMC
“competing for the No. 1 pick in next year’s draft”
How does one compete for the first overall pick? Isn’t it a lack of competing that one inherits that first pick?
allweatherfan
There are degrees of non-competition so, in a way, you compete with others when you intentionally not compete.
RunDMC
Agreed, just sounds like an oxymoron.
OPACY
I had a feeling Jones would not be willing to waive his 10-5 rights. I hope Baltimore does not QO him in the off-season or offer him a contract since he is unwilling to waive his no trade. But I do believe the O’s would receive a compensation draft pick if he stays with the team until the end of the year and elects free agency.
Phillies2017
If he gets a QO, he better accept
He’s not getting anywhere near $17m a year on the market.
OPACY
Agreed. Especially if Duquette’s comments about lowering payroll over the next two years is accurate.
arc89
Nobody is paying Jones $17 million a year which his QO would require. No way the Os will offer him a QO. He is on a steady decline and the Os need to rebuild.
Solaris601
Exactly what I was thinking. Jones would guaranteed accept the QO. BAL gets nothing if they let him walk, but they aren’t gonna get much in a trade either. Having his salary off the books after this year is enough.
gary55wv
No need to keep anyone hitting over 260. Team full of quitters.
O's Fan_JMiller
Jones isn’t going anywhere. O’s will sign him after this season for 3 more years. He’ll be a mentor to Mullins, Stewart, Hays, and Diaz. Mancini will eventually move back to 1st, where he played in the minors, pushing Davis to DH, Trumbo only has 1 more year on his contract after this season. O’s won’t move Jones, and Jones prefers to stay.
Solaris601
If he returns it will have to be at a serious discount. Can’t afford to pay a mentor who is in decline more than maybe $7M/year, and 3 years is a stretch. I’d be surprised if they offer him 2 years to be honest.
O's Fan_JMiller
It will definitely be at a much less salary, no doubt about it. Probably 3 years $25M-$30M overall. I say 3 years because of what the OF is projected to be in the years to come. Mullins will be called up in September, and most likely be the every day CF in 2019. If Jones is re-signed, he’ll take over RF in 2019. Stewart plays LF…. Stewart will probably be called up at some point in 2019, and Diaz (and possibly Hays) may be the late call-up in 2019. Jones would still have plenty of playing time in BAL in 2019 and 2020. It just depends how Mullins, Stewart, Diaz, and Hays progress hitting at the major league level.
andrewgauldin
I guess Jones doesn’t want to win
atomicfront
What about all the fans who support losing teams? Do they not want to win? They should all change allegiance to whatever team has the best record at the all-star break.. They move to that city as well.
doxiedevil
Jones is taking a gamble, why stay in Baltimore knowing the youth movement is underway.
Polish Hammer
No, just being greedy and leveraging a buy-out of the no-trade.
jdgoat
Yep. That’s definitely what’s happening hammer /s
tsolid 2
He’s EARNED the right to do whatever he wants to do, but I guess butthurt fans can’t understand that. He’d be stupid not to use his leverage.
Cam
Or maybe, he wants to stay in the city where he’s set up roots, and play out the contract he signed with Baltimore, in Baltimore.
deweybelongsinthehall
A key injury could throw another team into the mix or add intrigue to one already inquiring. End of August when his kids will be back in school might make him rethink. O’s can always bring him back after the year.
Boogaloo
Jones is a joke, always has been.
The team has done right by him for years and now he wont go to a contender for 2 months to help the team get a prospect? Lol
Its 2 months, half of which he’ll be on the road anyway.
For 25 games at Boone the rest of the way he won’t help his team?
Just wants his check and go home. What kind of athelete who had never won and is offered a shot at the end of his career says no?
Baltimore is talking about resigning him to be a mentor? Lol
I’d think you would want young guys around players who want to win, not guys who could care less.
jdgoat
Ya. How dare a guy use his 10-5 rights which he earned. In my honest opinion, the players union and league should work together to squash those rights. Why would a guy be rewarded for showing loyalty to one team for so long?
I know all guys aren’t like this, but if you’re a pro athlete, would you be able to go a couple months at a time without seeing your family?
Just another troll attempt by Boogaloo
its_happening
Many professions will force someone away from their family for 2, 3 months, sometimes more. Its a tough situation but some have to go through it.
Lucky for Jones he has a choice in the matter.
Want to do right by Baltimore? Accept the deal, go to a contender, attempt to win a ring, give Baltimore a hometown discount this offseason. If he really wants to be there he’ll sign there. By allowing the trade to happen he helps the organization. You’d hope O’s fans would remember that, and appreciate the gesture.
You’re in no position to call anyone a troll, JDGoat.
jdgoat
I don’t know why you’re so hostile Trim. I fail to see how you could possibly consider me a troll.
JKB 2
How was JDGoat trolling? I do not see it
JKB 2
Well Trim I would hope the fans remember all the good games and exciting plays from Jones and him wanting to stay but you want them to turn on Jones now?
its_happening
^JKB…the fans remember by looking at how much they spent on a ticket and ballpark concessions. They helped Jones and many others become multi-millionaires. They can turn on anyone they want as paying customers.
Boogaloo
The worst troll on here calling someone else a troll, lol.
Months at a time? Wtf?
I never heard of a 90 day road trip.
He would be inconvenienced for 25 days the next to months.
The guy clearly cares nothing about winning or helping his organization, only his own comfort.
Loser
jdgoat
Ok Boogaloo. As always, great insight. You should start a protest against MLB and it’s 10-5 rights.
its_happening
“I don’t know why you’re so hostile Trim”
Uh, you made a point and then decided to take a shot at the guy. It was a bit of a low blow but I come to expect that from you. I guess in order to properly articulate your thought you need to tear down someone else.
The part where you said “I fail”, is where we finally agree on something.
jdgoat
I respectfully disagree with your opinion Trim. I hope you can stop seeing me in that light, in no way do I mean to offend the non-trolls on this site. But when the same poster keeps on posting ridiculous statements, it begins to get annoying. I hope you can have a great night!
JKB 2
Oh boogaloo your calling Jones a loser for exercising rights he has earned? That says everything we need to know about you
JKB 2
Just another ignorant comment from Boogaloo
MetsYankeesRedSox
No one is worth the money some of these guys make. But it’s what the market will bear.
Just looking at his career stats, Adam has put together a nice career. I think he really wants to stay in Baltimore. I admire a person sticking with a team whether they suck or not. However it works I bet he stays.
tsolid 2
EVERYONE is worth what someone is willing to pay.
shoreoriolesfan
Jones is a great player I applaud him for wanting to stay in the city he has ment so much. His charity work alone not to mention he loves being a Oriole. The guy is a 280 26 85 guy throughout his career, his D has slowed a bunch but hes still the leader of this team. I hope he stays and resigns to mentor the youth that is coming.
DannyQ3913
Man has spent his whole career there, leave him be
nymetsking
So Seattle was a dream?
its_happening
Like Bobby Ewing dying.
Dogham
Adam Jones is holding out hope for a return to Seattle
tsolid 2
I wish some of these idiots would go into there next job and throw away all of their ability to negotiate for higher pay, or premier destination just to make it easier on the company’s behalf. You give up all their leverage and let the chips fall where they may.
athingortwo
Just imagine if you guys were all GMs! OMG
OMG !
bringinit247
It’s all about legacy. Being a franchise player and influencing a club and city. Some of you are so into the money side of things that you can’t see a bigger picture in life. Living with your parents till you’re 40 and playing COD and not having a job has taken its toll! For a guy like Adam, this is far more then about winning and money! He doesn’t need money, and winning can be defined in a variety of ways.
JKB 2
No actually winning is defined by championships
stymeedone
In other news, General Francisco Franco is still dead.
22222pete
Why give up vacation time for the playoffs with a playoff team. The pay is nothing, plus he risks injury entering free agency. Adam too smart for that
yankeeinil
So Jones is getting blasted on social media, mostly by O’s fans, for being selfish because he’s not catering to their self-serving wishes. Trust me, whatever comes back in return if he does decide to waive his no-trade isn’t turning around that dumpster fire.