The Cubs are among the slew of teams continuing to monitor the market for bullpen upgrades, and they’ve “closely” scouted Blue Jays right-hander Ryan Tepera and Padres righty Kirby Yates, per Bruce Levine of CBS Chicago/670 The Score. Both relievers figure to come with a relatively high cost of acquisition, as Yates is controlled through the 2020 season, while Tepera is controlled all the way through 2021. Each is in the midst of a fine season, though Yates has been among the NL’s best relievers thanks largely to a newly adopted splitter that has been a wipeout offering in 2018. Tepera is sitting on a 3.71 ERA with nearly 10 strikeouts per nine innings pitched in a tough AL East (and a tough home park, Toronto’s Rogers Centre). Both players are plenty affordable, with Tepera not yet eligible for arbitration until this offseason and Yates earning just $1.0625MM in his first trip through the arb process last winter.
Also on the Cubs front, Ken Rosenthal of The Athletic tweets that while it should be considered a “long shot,” the Cubs can’t be ruled out as a candidate to add a controllable starting pitcher. Doing so would likely mean building a package around young infielder/outfielder Ian Happ, controlled through the 2023 season, or a similarly enticing young hitter. Happ, 24 in two weeks, has displayed plenty of promise this year with a .253/.375/.445 slash, but while he walks at an impressive 16.1 percent clip, he’s also punched out in more than 35 percent of his plate appearances.
Here’s more out of the division…
- The Reds haven’t gotten that much traction in their trade talks surrounding Matt Harvey, tweets Joel Sherman of the New York Post. Sherman adds that the team feels Harvey has been a model teammate and may just hang onto him if no suitable offers crop up, though he also notes that that line of thinking could be mere posturing on the Reds’ behalf. Fancred’s Jon Heyman, meanwhile, tweets that outfielder Adam Duvall’s name continues to bounce around the rumor circuit, calling him and Harvey the two likeliest Reds to move. Heyman notes that the Reds would need to be “blown away” to move closer Raisel Iglesias, which largely lines up with previous reports that the Reds believe they can be significantly more competitive in 2019 despite a dearth of quality starting pitching.
- The Brewers are still in the market for upgrades after acquiring both Joakim Soria and Mike Moustakas, tweets Rosenthal. Specifically, Milwaukee is continuing to explore the market for a starting pitching upgrade and the market for some help behind the plate. The Brewers have recently been linked to the likes of Zack Wheeler and Chris Archer, though the market offers myriad opportunities to add an arm to the staff. There’s a more limited supply of available catchers, though Marlins star J.T. Realmuto, injured Rays backstop Wilson Ramos and Mets rental Devin Mesoraco are all candidates to change teams between now and the non-waiver deadline, which is roughly 24 hours away.
Padres2019ha
Yates should easily get a top 50 prospect based on what was given for Britton
masnhater
Yates doesn’t even belong in the same sentence as Britton, let alone comparing this trade value.
Padres2019ha
Sure, prior to his injury.
Yates has far better numbers, far better contract, and far.more years of control. TF are you talking about? Britton is just a fancy rental name
MC77
Yates has an extra 2 years of control, much better numbers, and doesn’t cost much. He should and will definitely cost more than Britton.
Travis’ Wood
Yes he does…. Yates has been significantly better. This isn’t 2016. Pay attention
masnhater
I rather have Mariano Rivera right now than Yates.
SixFlagsMagicPadres
I always find it funny to see people who think that relatively little-known players always suck compared to the “name brand” guys who get their name thrown around the national sports media circles and ESPN.
Astros2333
Keep in mind that the return for Britton was high because he was traded to a division rival.
The-Beast
Keep in mind the return for Britton was crap. Tate’s barely hanging on being an over-aged prospect, and you have another non prospect throw in. The prize is Carroll and bad teams are routinely afforded the opportunity to fix talented BP arms.
wrigleywannabe
That has nothing to do with it..
mattp
Reds are going to screw this up. Not trading Harvey is downright irresponsible.
BravesCanada
He’s a replacement level pitcher this year. What do they expect to actually get for him?
BrandonGregory74
He may want to stay and is willing to accept a reasonable contract extension. I know that seems out of character but he may really like it in Cincinnati.
LukeTheDrifter
His character may have changed given the reality check he’s had this year.
joeshmoe11
Whether he likes Cincinnati or not is irrelevant. So is him signing got the Reds in the off-season. Trade him now for a lottery ticket to get something for him now and you still can look at him as a free agent
mattp
I see no reasonable way that Matt Harvey will re-sign with the Reds, assuming they intend to hold onto him through balance of 2018 season. They cannot offer him a QO so wouldn’t ANY return be better than watching walk away for *nothing*? Not to mention, Robert Stephenson is beating down the door in AAA to get another shot in the majors. Ideally, the Reds should jettison Homer Bailey to the moon, but since that doesn’t appear to be an option, getting a small return for Harvey and opening the door for Stephenson to finish the rest of 2018 in the bigs isn’t a bad course of action.
LukeTheDrifter
If Harvey’s decent pitching helps the Reds finish as a 500 club then not trading him would be acceptable in my book. It’s not like they gave up anything to get him anyway.
dhud
More than absolutely nothing as he walks out the door as a free agent at least
jbigz12
I think the prospect you;d receive for Harvey right now is marginal enough to keep him around if they really do want to resign him. If Harvey truly doesn’t want to be dealt and they intend on giving him an offer this offseason, it’d be best to keep him around now. If he was going to bring back a significant prospect that’d be one thing but you’re not getting that.
dhud
This assumes that simply by being on the Reds now they somehow get an advantage in signing him
I doubt it, but we’ll all probably never know
jbigz12
You never know and if all your missing out on is a C- level prospect it may be worth the roll of the dice. Don’t think you’;re getting anything other than that.
BravesCanada
Ya but no contending team needs him
ksoze
Exactly, I’d rather run out the season with him, and give the Reds a chance to hit 500, than get a lottery ticket.
rodge816
Agreed
joeshmoe11
He’ll get traded, with his value low they’ll wait until waiver deadline if need be
BrandonGregory74
I think if it were going to happen it would have right after his start Friday. I think Harvey stays.
fisher40
They won’t get much for him if they do trade him
Leody Taveras
It makes no sense to give up Happ unless it was in a package for someone elite, and it that case Cubs don’t have the additional prospect capital that would take.
Dankgesang
I don’t know. Happ for five years at 2.0 WAR vs Degrom for two years at 5.0 WAR seems like a trade that could be done with adjustments at the margins.
justacubsfan
I think the cubs would do that in a heartbeat. But I doubt the Happ is best offer Mets would receive. Also, cubs not having high end prospects at the moment limits the offers for SP in this market. DeGrom is a bonafide ace that would make any team WS favorites I believe
Dankgesang
Agree with everything you said, and the above is not to say that Happ for Degrom straight up is reasonable, just that on a strict WAR basis the Cubs have enough pieces they’d be willing to part with to give the Mets a premium over what they’d be losing for two years of Degrom. But of course you’re right, the fact that the Mets are likely looking to actually contend next year, coupled with the fact that the market for Degrom would dictate a crazy premium means the Cubs don’t effectively have the goods.
michaelw
I agree. But the Cubs do have the players to get that done IF they really wanted to. Everyone goes on prospects but TBH any combo of MLB ready players would throw any prospect deal 2nd nature.
A package of Happ (5 years Control), Bote (7 Years Control), Montgomery and Alozolay
Would get that trade done today on both sides. The Mets might even have to add a no name in there.
That might even be an over pay on the Cubs part,
Happ Bote and Alozolay would probaby get it done. The Cubs would then hope to extend him.
Dankgesang
Who knows, I guess. But even I (a legit dumb homer Cubs fan who believes in his heart that Ian Happ is going to OPS like Jr Griffey over the next five years) think that the Yankees and Dodgers have probably already made offers that the Mets like more than what you listed here. (edit: I also think that Bote is Mike Schmidt.)
justacubsfan
Yeah I think that’s a little light. If the Mets are serious on contending, then yeah cubs have goods, but if they’re rebuilding, other teams have way better prospects to offer up. I think cubs, if healthy, could win pennant as constructed
Dankgesang
And if the Mets are serious about contending it’s all moot anyway as Degrom is then likely locked up short of something that offers them a net plus over the next two years, as opposed to the next five; e.g. Happ+Schwarber+Bote+Montgomery. Which is obvs more than the Cubs can spare.
ElectricEddie
The trade is straight up Bryant for DeGrom
We have a great team that just needs pitching
This would get us to the WS
Dustin Michels
Need a lot more than just Happ for DeGrom imo. Chicago does not have what it takes for DeGrom but could have a start of a Happ for Archer possible deal.
Dankgesang
Absolutely. ‘At the margins’ probably doesn’t do a good job of describing the other pieces a Happ-Degrom deal would require.
wrigleywannabe
Way to ignore the part about other prospects
ray_derek
It makes tons of sense to get rid of Happ for pitching, there’s no spot to start him!
wrigleywannabe
Yet, he continues to get at bats
Adolpho67
Happ & Bote aren’t going anywhere as long as KB is out of action.
snotrocket
Sam Dyson for PTBNL?
neonkeon23
I could see Corey Ray as the centerpiece for Realmuto
KingRyan227
I agree but personally I’d love to hang onto him as he has good power and we parted with Phillips already we gotta keep one good outfielder of the future
twentyforty
Ray is a K machine. Fits right in with the Milwaukee philosophy.
Dustin Michels
Ray would be a 2nd piece in a deal for JT at best possibly a 2a or 2b piece. I’m a Tigers fan but you cannot keep your top 2 prospects and expect to get JT. It probably would cost Hieura and Burnes to get in the conversation
ray_derek
And what else?? You’re going to have to give up a lot more than Ray for him, and if he’s the centerpiece, Miami laughs and hangs up the phone. He is the best catcher in the league.
mikeyst13
For a top 3 catcher in the league with 2 years left I think IF Ray was the centerpiece there would have to be significant other pieces around him, like 3 of the Brewers top 10, say Ray, Ercig, and Ortiz. Also may be hard to convince the Marlins they need to trade for yet another CF prospect after already getting Brinson, Harrison, and Sierra in the last 6 months. I would think they start the conversation with Huira and then move to Burnes when Milwaukee says no.
neonkeon23
look at the package DS gave Miami for Yelich. expendable top prospect and multiple solid parts…corey ray can be the centerpiece for another 4 for 1 swap
mikeyst13
Brinson was a top 25-30 prospect (depending on the site) with a 60 grade, Ray is not even top 100 anymore (though back on the upswing) and a 50 grade. They are not the same players.
ray_derek
No he can’t, not for Realmuto.
ericdbright
Realmuto isn’t a great pickup for MIL if they have to give up Burnes or Hiura along with any other player of value. The future needs of the team are starting pitching and middle infield. Cheaper options (albeit not as valuable options) will be available after the non-waiver deadline. It wouldn’t take much for a catcher to be an improvement over the Brewers’ current catchers.
augold5
D. Santana, F. Peralta, J. Nottingham, L. Castillo and M. Lazar for C. Archer and W. Ramos. Milwaukee gets their C and SP, Tampa gets their young catcher and Power hitting OF along with a promising young SP.
Dustin Michels
Guessing your a Brewers fan. To get that package from Tampa you have to give up Burnes or Hieura. Trying to have your cake and eat it too does not work. Trying to keep your top two prospects Brewers fans and get JT or Archer is not going to work.
jbigz12
I could see a world where Freddy Peralta was the headliner but it would take significantly better secondary pieces than domingo santana. Ray, Turang, and Nottingham with Peralta may be attractive to TB for Ramos and Archer.
b.to.the.rian
Turang can’t be traded until after this year’s World Series, like all 2018 draft picks
jbigz12
True, Forgot about the new Trea Turner Rule.
augold5
Burnes and Peralta are pretty comparable prospects. Both RH, major league ready SP with #2/#3 upside. Both are also backend T100 prospects. Burnes relies more on location and Peralta on a deceptive fastball, but not a crazy difference in value.
vtadave
Peralta is a good starting point, but don’t see a MIL deal happening without Ray. Santana doesn’t have much value left.
mikeyst13
Yeah, I’m not sure why fans still think that Santana has any real trade value right now. We’ve seen power hitting (which he is not currently hitting for any power at all) corner OFs with defensive limitations get moved for next to nothing and struggle to find contracts in the free agent market. At this point he’s more of a throw in to tip the scales a bit than any kind of main trade piece.
twentyforty
Nobody has wanted Santana in two years, including Milwaukee.
dewssox79
lol degrom for happ. oh how i love cubs fans.
Bet Your Sweet Bippy
No cubs fan in this comment section has suggested that, and the article above clearly implies there would need to be additional pieces, but that Happ could be a starting point. The only comment I saw from a cubs fan also acknowledges that the cubs don’t have the prospects to get the deal done. Get over yourself.
mikeyst13
Well someone did suggest Happ for deGrom with “adjustments at the margin.” Those would be some pretty wide margins that the Cubs don’t really have….
Android Dawesome
That is whats wrong with debate in society today. That’s not what the original comment said. It only told a quarter of the facts while painting an entire group as unreasonable. There is a huge difference between that and your comment.
Dankgesang
That was me, it was dumb and pretentious. Instead of “with adjustments at the margins”, let’s say “with Happ as the centerpiece of a four-guy trade that would then get blown out of the water by a better offer.”
mikeyst13
I could see him being a centerpiece, but just not sure that there are enough complimentary pieces around him that the Mets would have much interest in without majorly affecting the Cubs’ current 25 man roster.
Dankgesang
I think in some years, in some starting pitching markets, with a stable Mets front office that was committed to a four year rebuild and could face the storm, Happ+Amaya+Bote+Montgomery would get it done. This is not one of those years.
wrigleywannabe
I still dont think thatvwould bevenough.
Monty is a dwing guy and Bote is a flavor of the month guy.
watup0100
Trade Harvey for any “prospect” under the age of 25 and it’s a win.
NickGarren
The Cub need a closer with Morrow on the DL and possibly out for the season. Shows they should have paid Wade Davis over Yu Darvish who is washed up and the Cub got stuck with him.
twentyforty
Morrow isn’t even remotely out for the season….but nice try.
JKB 2
Yet somehow the Cubs are in first place with the best record in the NL and that drives Nick Garren insane!
ThatBallwasBryzzoed
I’d rather the Cubs keep happ.
Dan8550
I wish the reds would trade billy ham, duvall, scooter bailey and Harvey. Bh is a great defender but had a huge hole in his bat. Duvall made the all star game and then sucked all year. Scooter’s value is high right, so will be his contract next year for a player is average to below average on defense. Bailey has a huge terrible contract. He is injury prone and will post a 4 era when not injured. No way they sign Harvey. He has had a dencent year and is showing he can still throw 98. Small market club won’t be able to afford him with bailey and Votto contract. I like Votto but dang that was way to long.
redsraiderspurs44
They wouldn’t get value back equal to what Gennett and Hamilton bring to the team and probably not Duvall either. No one wants Bailey; they’d actually have to pay someone to take him. And who knows if they would get a decent return for Harvey.
Maybe they can make a decent trade with Harvey and an outside chance with Duvall. But with two starting outfielders injured is now the time to be trading outfielders. They have fought they’re back from a horrible start and have a chance to get back to.500. They shouldn’t throw that away. They need that positive energy and sense of momentum. They have been so bad for so long the importance of that new energy can’t be understated.
Dan8550
This season is over has been for a while heck with 500. Be nice to get another good draft pick. They have Taylor trammel that needs a call up for outfield. How are they gonna get lmao 500 if duvall and bh are barley hitting over 200. Hanging on to Harvey will be waste won’t be able to sign him anyways. I agree with bailey just wishful thinking there. Scooter was just an all star has another year of control and is killing the ball. Defense sucks bad. The fo needs to look at next year not this one. Trade duvall bh and scooter and get some pitching. The phils and Braves were terrible and they both turned it around. Why not the reds?
dust44
The reds r the reds they will try to resign him in the offseason and he will revert to the same nonsense as soon as he cashes in. The reds will b stuck with a untradeable player like Bailey and have them 2 taking up 2/5th of the rotation. Seen if happen way to much with Cincy teams. Then have to hear the reds fans around me complain all the time.