7:02pm: Patrick Mooney of The Athletic also hears that the two sides are making progress on a deal (Twitter link). Mooney notes that Class-A Advanced right-hander Rollie Lacy was scratched from tonight’s start.
6:58pm: A trade between the Cubs and Rangers is “getting close,” tweets Jesse Rogers of ESPN Chicago. Chicago made a “strong push” for Hamels earlier today, thus leading to the increased buzz surrounding their involvement in the Hamels market.
5:36pm: While the Cubs appear to be the “front-runner” for Hamels, per Ken Rosenthal of The Athletic (via Twitter), there are still other clubs in play for the lefty. Rosenthal and Steve Phillips of MLB Network Radio on SiriusXM (Twitter link) both suggest that the Braves are in the mix for Hamels, and T.R. Sullivan of MLB.com tweets that the Phillies may still be involved as well.
4:55pm: Sherman tweets that there are stronger signals that a trade of Hamels to the Cubs could come together — perhaps even today.
4:25pm: The Cubs are in “strong pursuit” of Hamels and would send lower-level prospects to Texas in the deal currently being discussed, tweets Jim Bowden of MLB Network Radio on SiriusXM. Fancred’s Jon Heyman tweets that there’s a “decent chance” of a deal coming together between the two sides.
2:21pm: The Cubs have recently scouted Rangers lefty Cole Hamels, and Joel Sherman of the New York Post reports (via Twitter) that Chicago appears to be “making inroads” to try to acquire Hamels from Texas. While Hamels has a 20-team no-trade clause, the Cubs are not on that list.
Hamels, 34, has delivered middling results with the Rangers in the final guaranteed season of his six-year, $144MM contract. Through 114 1/3 innings, he’s worked to a 4.72 ERA with 9.0 K/9, 3.3 BB/9, 1.81 HR/9 and a 43.4 percent ground-ball rate. Hamels’ velocity has bounced back after an alarming downturn early in the season, but he’s still been plagued by home runs more so than at any point in his career; thus far, just over one out of five fly-balls allowed by Hamels has resulted in a long ball.
Of course, those struggles have been largely confined to Hamels’ hitter-friendly home park. While Wrigley Field isn’t exactly a pitcher’s paradise, no stadium in baseball has been more conducive to home runs thus far in 2018 than Hamels’ current home of Globe Life Park in Arlington, per ESPN’s park factors. Baseball Prospectus’ park factors paint a similarly grim picture. Between a move to a friendlier park and a move to the National League, there’s certainly some reason to believe that Hamels’ performance could yet improve.
Hamels is earning $22.5MM in 2018 and is still owed about $7.98MM of that sum through season’s end, plus at least a $6MM buyout on his $20MM option for the 2019 season. The Cubs, however, don’t appear to be discussing the possibility of taking on all of that nearly $14MM commitment. Rather, Sherman further tweets that they’d pick up about $4MM of his deal and send secondary prospects to the Rangers in return.
Chicago entered the season with a solid on-paper rotation featuring Jon Lester, Kyle Hendricks, Jose Quintana and offseason signees Yu Darvish and Tyler Chatwood, but Darvish has missed significant time due to a triceps issue while Chatwood has walked more hitters than anyone in baseball. The Cubs have about $14MM of breathing room beneath the $197MM luxury tax threshold,so taking on roughly $4MM of Hamels’ remaining salary would allow them to supplement their rotation while leaving some room for additional acquisitions between now and the July 31 non-waiver trade deadline.
xabial
Just before Hamels got traded by the phillies, he was getting killed, start after start…and then he pitched a No-hitter against the Cubs. History will repeat itself. I stand by my opinion.. Most underrated SP available.
JKB 2
Why is he underrated?
lowtalker1
He isn’t under rated
He isn’t as good as he once was but he is lights out in the post season minus that one start for Texas
Priggs89
He’s 34 and has a FIP over 5. The fact that anyone thinks he’s one of the top starters on the market proves that he’s not even close to underrated.
knolln
3.27 FIP and every traditional stat says all-star prior to trade. sooo
but ya he’s trash now
xabial
I posted this before this became a story. (mlb.com/cut4/cole-hamels-threw-no-hitter-at-wrigle…)
I don’t know why (this guys) so mean. You keep removing the (same user’s) replies to mine, but the dude never leaves me alone.
ncaachampillini
I have no idea how to feel about that. As a Cubs fan it doesn’t make me want to do any cartwheels. Any reason to be even remotely happy about this possibility?
CubsRule08
1 reason: move Chatwood out of rotation.
That should be plenty enough reason for you lol
KJ0911
Yes, Amen, hallelujah, holy $hit, you are correct
CubsRule08
Lol
Caseys-Partner
The price is probably nothing after the Yanks robbery of Toronto.
xabial
Yes, Because Happ will lead us to the promised land. Cmon, Casey? That sounds like a hot take…
DVail1979
Toronto did very well getting Drury and McKinney for 2 months of Happ … both teams there got what they wanted
lowtalker1
Yankees have been trying to move drury for a month or so but only Toronto had interest
wellhitball
Wow, that is the biggest fleecing I’ve seen from Toronto since the Donaldson trade!
driftcat28 2
It was by no means a robbery. Bother teams did well
srechter
Casey is doing Casey things to get a rise from you. He’s just not great at it. I offer my troll services to you, Casey!
vtadave
Surprised Casey hasn’t been banned.
justinept
Significantly better road numbers. Low walk percentage. Dodgers struggle against lefties.
66TheNumberOfTheBest
“Any reason to be even remotely happy about this possibility?”
Yes. For the first time this season I think the Pirates could have a chance to win the division (if this trade happens), but that’s probably not what you meant.
JKB 2
Sure. It sounds like the Cubs are not giving much for him so its a depth move and he is better than Chatwood
Adolpho67
A no-brainer if the numbers and “mid-level” prospect price is accurate. Globe Life definitely takes its toll on pitchers this year. Given Chavez’ recent performance, Cubs need to keep their Texas pipeline open!
snattoo
Agreed! Texas has supplied a lot of quality Cubs pitching over the past few years. Hendricks, Edwards Jr, Grimm and Neil Ramirez had a serviceable few years. Christian Villanueva was also in the Hendricks/Dempster & Soto deal.
baseballhobo
Hamels doesn’t make the Cubs better. I don’t see the point.
wrigleywannabe
Except, he does
adkuchan
The Cubs have no idea when Darvish will be back. Tyler Chatwood leads the majors in Bases on Balls (84, the guy in 2nd has 64!) None of the Cubs starters seem to consistently pitch 6 innings. Being forced to use Mike Montgomery as a starter makes their bullpen thinner. This move is a decent insurance policy for the Cubs.
GareBear
You could literally replace Chatwood with Joe Rookie from MLB The Show and get better results
CubsRebsSaints
For 3 months? He does. Not if it was a 3 year deal
brewfan27
send Yu to Texas
Nortexfan2
Great news…with the cubs stellar farm system we should be able to do something we are accustomed to in Texas…strikeout
Not that Hamels is worth good prospects
SilvioDante
I think Hamels is definitely worth a roll of the dice. He brings a lot of playoff and WS experience to the table. I would also have to believe the chance to win a WS with the Cubs would amp up his competitive juices all the more. Besides the Cubs wouldn’t be looking for him to be the ace of the staff — with Yu Darvish’s availability being so uncertain, and Chatwood’s crazy wildness, Hamels would likely be looked upon as a No. 3 or 4 behind Lester, Hendricks and Quintana. So as long as the prospects going back to Texas aren’t considered “top-shelf” (not sure if the Cubs have any in the first place), but are at least decent to make it worth while for the Rangers, I think this could be a win/win for both teams.
Djones246890
Good analysis. Completely agree.
Djones246890
He can’t be any worse than Chatwood. I just think he needs a change of scenery. From what I remember, he always pitched extremely well in Wrigley.
Also, Wrigley Field, when the wind is blowing in (which is most of the time), is EXTREMELY pitcher-friendly.
ThatBallwasBryzzoed
After he no hit the Cubs. I was really hoping the Cubs were gonna trade for him. Before going to texas.
That would’ve been interesting to see a pitcher join a team he had just no hit a week earlier.
simschifan
Probably won’t happen
Dan Grammy
I’m not sure why a lot of fans are expecting another huge trade at this year’s deadline. Hamels will eat innings and get Montgomery back to the bullpen which will be giving the Cubs another LHP. Two birds with one stone. Chatwood will likely stay in the rotation.
murphy
Your ego is strong.
baseballhobo
Hamels has an ERA over 10 in his last five starts. Hamels has an ERA over 6 in his last ten starts. The Cubs should look elsewhere.
xabial
2018 Season, Cole Hamels Home/Away splits
Home: 6.41 ERA, 1-7, .290 BAA, 10 GS
Away: 2.93 ERA, 4-2, .222 BAA, 10 GS
Priggs89
6.16 FIP at home
4.17 FIP on the road
He has definitely been better on the road, but he has also been a heck of a lot luckier.
citizen
nice addition, but cubs dont have the prospects to make a deal.
jide
They don’t need prospects to trade for hamels
xabial
They do if Texas covers a significant portion of Hamels’ contract for a higher regarded return, which Rangers indicated, are willing to do.
justinept
They would if it was 2015…
Rett Davis
They would if it included a lot upside.guys in A ball. We need to restock. Gotta remember that they are the same as collateral was their future players. More you got then. you can mesh money with trades. We need to trade everything to pump the system so it gives us the op to trade around spending cash.
citizen
ok, then tyler chatwood and justin wilson for hammels.
Adbert Alzolay is their only top 100.
Bet Your Sweet Bippy
Miguel Amaya is also getting recognition as a fringe top 100 but it is doubtful either are traded for Hamels.
rondon
They absolutely do have the prospects. The article refers to “secondary prospects”.
cjbay
Maybe they can work Diekman in the deal also?
pinkerton
ol’ Klentak hasn’t done a darn thing yet. Let him come back for another run and get Pivetta to the pen until he figures out his troubles.
T_Rexx2
I’m actually pretty mad he hasn’t done anything yet.
tsc32
Maybe Alex Lange or Brailyn Marquez as the headliner?
Hector_Villanueva_Fan_Club
For rental with lots of money left on his deal for the rest of the year even in the thin system I can’t see the Cubs give up either of those guys.
xabial
Hamels has $7.98M remaining in 2018, and a hefty $6M buyout on his 2019 $20M club option.
He’s owed just a shade under $14M. Get that he’s a rental, but don’t think amount is as prohibitive as many make it out to seem. Hamels sucking lately, really kills JD’s leverage, even moreso than $14M he is owed through 2019 imo.
TaylorLH
The real question is if it was Hamels + 10M to cover most of that what does that get you?
I think Hamels/Diekman/6M+ for Little be where id look.
Hector_Villanueva_Fan_Club
I think the money owed to him is doable for sure, I just think a team will use that against the Rangers in any deal. Him leaving the Rangers would or could be good for him, I think the money and how he has pitched lately limits the players that can be gotten for him even in thin Cubs system. I think it would be more lottery tickets like the Chavez deal than people that are more well known.
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thegreatcerealfamine
Hey X, remember the other day you posted about how certain posters have gotten out of hand. Well go to the Happ article and read my reply to eileenyankees who posted an accusation of me being a “woman hater and a Yankees hater”, their post has since been cleared. Accusing me of being a Yankees hater, now that sure is rich. Majorflaw was on to something the other day about that person and a few others.
tsc32
Okay but say a deal ended up like this:
Cubs get: Hamels, Diekman, 8-10 million
Rangers get: Lange/Marquez and Rucker
Think that comes out looking well for both sides. Hamels is really strong away from Arlington and Texas would be covering a good chunk of what he’s owed. Quality lefty reliever thrown in on top. And all Chicago gives up is a good pitching prospect and another one that projects as a BOTR guy.
Hector_Villanueva_Fan_Club
I can see it happening your way if they include a lefty reliever as well. We will see.
rondon
That sounds reasonable. As patient as they’ve been, they have to be very close to sticking Chatwood in the BP or down to AAA (does he have any options left?) to figure it out. He walked SIX again today and that BS just won’t fly. I was actually hoping for Eovaldi, injury history and all, because I just have a feeling he’s hitting his stride. But… Hamels would be an upgrade over Chatwood. He and Darvish have great stuff, but really seem to be head cases.
Hector_Villanueva_Fan_Club
If it gets Chatwood out of the rotation and doesn’t cost us anything but money I am all for it. Curious what type of prospects would be going to Texas since we don’t have much that is big league ready.. I can hope for Zagunis and maybe another secondary piece.
TaylorLH
Rangers – Hamels, Diekman, and 6M (buyout)
Cubs – Little and Steele
Who says no?
Adolpho67
They’re not gonna trade their #1 draft pick from last year. Sherman said “mid-level” prospects.
oz10
But TaylorLH did add Diekman to get that up from a mid level prospect. I don’t know enough about the cubs system to know if it is good or not but the addition of a solid reliever and the cash for the buyout should be enough to leverage a better retrun, no?
TaylorLH
Bullpen arm plus paying down the salary considerably for a 21 year old who isnt crushing it in single A.
Little has the 1st round pedigree but he was even ranked down to like 8 on the cubs top prospects this summer.
Adolpho67
Just re-read post. Sherman actually said “low-level” prospects. So, we’ll see!
TaylorLH
I know he is a 1st rounder but he is a 21 year old who has a 4.85ERA in A ball.
Obviously he is good, but we arent talking about Lange/Marquez.
Hector_Villanueva_Fan_Club
I still can’t see the Cubs giving up Little at this point since Theo talked about building up minor league pitching depth a few weeks ago.
TaylorLH
Unless the Cubs want to take his entire salary they have to let go of someone. Its not even like i mentioned the top 5 of a thin farm.
Hector_Villanueva_Fan_Club
I still think it would be for someone that neither one of us has heard of. We will see.
frankf
Referring to anyone in the Cubs farm system as a “mid-level prospect” is being generous.
rondon
Don’t be ridiculous. They have plenty of “mid-level” prospects. They just don’t have any big name Top 100 talent… For now.
tsc32
I’d like that as a Rangers fan if Chicago refuses to give up one of Lange/Marquez
Dark_Knight
I think getting Hamels out of Texas will do wonders for him. He’s not going to put up numbers like he used to but he should see a major improvement. He’ll stabilize someone’s rotation and be a solid 3-4 guy.
Cubby
The price for Hamels kept going up with every Chatwood walk today
wrigleywannabe
Nope
oz10
We can finally do to them what they did to us in Dempster and Garza!
frankf
At this point, there’s pretty much nobody in our farm system that I’d miss, so why not.
simschifan
They need him today. Get Walkwood out of the rotation and give him a phantom shoulder or back injury and put Montgomery back in the pen when and if Darvish comes back and dfa Duensing cause he’s trash this year too
Vogt83
I honestly think he ends up with Philly in the end. Cubs fans need not worry.
simschifan
Probably, and then they will be forced to overpay for overrated Archer
koldjerky
I don’t think the Phillies will go for a rental starter.
srechter
I agree that Hamels has to be better than chatwood. I don’t watch the cubs often; cubs fans, what’s it like watching chatwood on the mound? I really don’t mean disrespect, I’m honestly curious what that looks like in person.
riphaggard
Ever seen a dumpster fire?
Hector_Villanueva_Fan_Club
The most painful experience imaginable. He is so bad and looks to cement himself as the worst free agent signee in MLB in the off-season with each of his outings.
desertbull
It’s like watching a dog eat her own puppies.
srechter
Lol I absolutely love all of those replies. Non-rave reviews for chatwood.
Djones246890
Remember little league when the coach used to always allow his son to pitch, simply because it was his son and he wanted him to be the “star,” but he s u c k e d?
Therefore, everyone had to endure watching this little s h i t pitch, and get hammered into the ground, or walk almost the entire team. Yea. It’s a lot like that.
Los Calcetines Rojos
The prospect proposals here are just as outlandish as the ones last summer when Eloy and Cease were so called untouchables. If the Rangers eat cash AND throw in a RP then I’m not sure what the Cubs do here in terms of a package
wrigleywannabe
Eloy brought more than Hamels and an arm for the pen, assuming thats even included.
They will HAVE to eat large chunks of that money to even make the deal plausible.
Dont act like that is some exyra pary of the package.
You’ll get guys like Underwood, maybe.
Or some young low level A types.
We already took you bullpen arm, anyway, that we wanted
Los Calcetines Rojos
Adding money into a trade is in fact another component of a trade thus the term “cash considerations”
To my point though, the over valuing of prospects is pretty great in this thread. Spare change and junk from your system that is unwanted is almost always unwanted by other teams.
Additonally, since you believe I’m a Rangers fan and I’m not sure what brought you to that conclusion in the first place I’m actually a Red Sox fan that lives in Chicago. My name literally translates to The Red Sox.
baseballhobo
This deal will blow up in the Cubs faces.
simschifan
I love your username
wrigleywannabe
With another WS title
simschifan
Let’s not get ahead of ourselves here
rondon
The haters can’t resist.
tim815
The guys going back won’t likely be on lists other than rosters.
spudchukar
Looks like a major move by the Cards! Dakota Hudson held out of his start in Memphis.
rangers92
I’m thinking the rangers trade Hamels, Diekman, and a lower level prospect that we have an abundance of and the cubs trade Duensing, Cole Roederer, Brailyn Marquez, and Trevor Clifton.
pdubs2907
Why the hell would the Rangers take Duensing?
rangers92
To help offset salary and also to have an arm in the bullpen. They had 2 position players pitch the other night. Their season is done.
ThatBallwasBryzzoed
this week the Cubs had 5 position players pitch. Twice by back up catcher victor caratini
justinept
The Cubs didn’t have position players pitch because their bullpen is bad. They did it because they’re in the middle of a grueling stretch without an off day. You don’t blow up your bullpen in games that were decided before the 7th inning.
ThatBallwasBryzzoed
Their bullpen isnt bad. It was spent. The best part about it was Anthony Rizzo finally got his wish. Two pitches and he got an out.
Priggs89
And he threw 60mph like a little leaguer. Embarrassing.
rangers92
If the rangers trade diekman and kela after already trading Chavez they’re going to need some relief pitching back..Duensing is the crappiest guy in the cubs bullpen but has had some success in the past. Adding him in the deal would also offset some salary. Same reason the Rangers took on Austin Jackson and Cory Guerrin.. the rangers put guerrin in the bullpen for depth and then DFA’d Austin Jackson paying $4 million essentially for the one prospect Jason Bahr
wiggysf
Gearrin isn’t even that bad. He could be a trade chip if he keeps throwing scoreless innings.
rangers92
Yeah like the 3 runs he gave up last night? He has a 4.10 ERA.. not really impressed with him
tim815
Roederer can’t be traded until after the WS concludes.
rangers92
PTBNL then complete it at the end of the year
rangers92
Never mind mlb won’t allow that any more
rangers92
Hamels, Diekman, and Brendon Davis , for Duensing, Cole Roederer, Brailyn Marquez, and Trevor Clifton.
ab3b29
Hearing it’s Justin Steele and Dillon Maples for Hamels(Rangers paying this years contract and half of next year) plus Diekmann
TaylorLH
Seems reasonable
simschifan
Source?
Daniel Youngblood
Jon Daniels should be fired immediately if he agrees to this deal. A 22-year-old starter prospect in rookie ball and a scrub reliever with a 1.5 WHIP in the minors? No thanks.
If the Rangers are a) going to eat that much cash and b) include Diekman in the deal, they had better get something of real value back in the trade.
wrigleywannabe
Give them Underwood and have them throw someone in.
He’s 10 or so on our list, but that would be 20 with most teams.
Hes lazy and inconsistent.
Los Calcetines Rojos
So why exactly would the Rangers take him?
Hector_Villanueva_Fan_Club
He throws 98 and looked to have big league stuff when he was up earlier this year against the Dodgers.
ThatBallwasBryzzoed
And really he didnt do bad in that game. Except 40 pitches in the first only gave up 2 runs. Gave up zero in that first inning.
Hector_Villanueva_Fan_Club
I still haven’t figured out why they haven’t given him a second start in place of Tyler Chatwood or instead of Luke Farrell
ThatBallwasBryzzoed
They gotta try something. Its been away too long since they had their own home grown pitching that was really good. Wood , prior Zambrano had their moments but they were never really aces. Zambrano was like Andy Petitte he would throw 7 scoreless 3 hit baseball. The next start he wouldn’t last innings.
Adolpho67
They did say that Underwood was “under the weather” or he would have pitched on Mon.
bigdaddyhacks
Come on Jerry
aTexhoss
guarantee that JD will grossly get ripped off again. sad to think the rangers will get nothing in return. JD hit the jackpot trading texiera 10 years ago, but sadly he has struck out on every sellers trade he has made since. pays retail when buying sells at wholesale when it’s time to rebuild. he’s a joke.
Daniel Youngblood
It’d say the jury is still out on the Darvish trade. Willie Calhoun plus was about all they could expect given the way Yu was pitching at the time.
But in general, I’d agree with you. JD has done a terrific job of dismantling this franchise since the two World Series appearances.
aTexhoss
calhoun is a bum. he’s a poor man’s imitation kirby puckett.
Daniel Youngblood
You’ve made this determination based on 59 plate appearances? I’ll trust the scouts.
aTexhoss
based on the 73 ab’s last year as well. plus his crap attitude. he’s a poor man’s immitation kirby puckett.
oz10
He is also young. I didn’t have the greatest respect for authority at that age and figured I knew everything. This is why he has stayed in the minors and over the last couple of months has finally had something click on the maturity side, or so it seems. Good article about him on the Athletic.
ajetergiftbasket
Cashman swoops in and grabs Hamels, too.
Breezy
Who the hell is Rollie Lacy lol? Dude better have been scratched for excessive diarrhea, and not because he’s headlining a trade.
ThatBallwasBryzzoed
Come on theo and Jed get this deal done. Hopefully they dont only get Hamels. Get a reliever as well.
SlPkNtJP
This guy has given up 23 homers thus far …. I don’t know if he’ll work in the Windy City but what else is there? Julio Tehran? Chris Archer?The Mets want your whole farm system and other teams are offering Sonny Grays 2.0s.
xabial
Cole Hamels has given up 16 homers over 59 IP at home, and 7 homers over 55 1/3 innings on the road.
Gavin B
I’d just like to say I think this is a great deal or a terrible deal…. hamels will either be hamels on the road or he will be hamels from at home. If he’s hamels from the ride this is an amazing trade if he plays like he does at home then this trade isn’t good whatsoever