July 9: Vazquez will require surgery and is expected to miss six to eight weeks of action, tweets Evan Drellich of NBC Sports Boston. Manager Alex Cora tells reporters that he’s comfortable with Leon and Swihart doing all of the catching during Vazquez’s absence.
July 7: Red Sox catcher Christian Vazquez suffered a broken right pinky while sliding on Saturday and will head to the 10-day disabled list, Pete Abraham of the Boston Globe tweets. Vazquez will undergo an MRI on Monday to determine how much time he’ll miss.
Vazquez’s injury is to his throwing hand, which seems to suggest he’s in for a somewhat lengthy absence. The defensive-minded Vazquez has long been adept at throwing out attempted base stealers, having caught 41 percent during his career, and that has been the case this year. Prior to his injury, he caught 31 percent of would-be base thieves, beating out the league average (27 percent). The 27-year-old has also been one of the game’s top pitch framers in 2018, per Baseball Prospectus, which has no doubt been beneficial to red-hot Boston’s pitching staff.
Thanks in part to Vazquez’s defensive prowess, the Red Sox own the majors’ best record (61-29). He hasn’t contributed much to their elite offense, however, with a subpar .213/.249/.300 batting line in 218 plate appearances. Likewise, fellow Red Sox catchers Sandy Leon and Blake Swihart have offered below-average offense. And even though Swihart, 26, was once a prized catcher prospect for Boston, the team has been reluctant to use him behind the plate. After donning the tools of ignorance 83 times in 2015, his rookie year, Swihart has appeared as a catcher on just 15 occasions for the Sox over the past two-plus seasons.
Given its unwillingness to rely on Swihart as a catcher – not to mention his paltry .175/.241/200 line in 87 PAs – it’s possible the club will seek help at the position prior to the July 31 non-waiver trade deadline. The best catchers in the rumor mill of late have been the Marlins’ J.T. Realmuto and the Rays’ Wilson Ramos, and acquiring either would serve as a major response to Vazquez’s injury. Realmuto isn’t a strong bet to move, however, and would likely be too hard to acquire for a Boston team without a well-regarded farm system. Conversely, Ramos is a near-lock to end up elsewhere in the coming weeks, but whether the Red Sox are interested in him or have the prospect capital to land him is unclear. It’s obvious, though, that Vazquez’s injury is a less-than-ideal development for the Sox as they continue trying to fend off the archrival Yankees in the AL East.
And that’s why the Red Sox carried Sswihart rather than expose him to waivers or trade him.
Swihart is awful though.
Maybe two years ago catching knuckle baller I would agree, that’s not the case now even though his bat has been a disappointment but to be fair, cold off the bench and not all but mostly from the right side, and he is a much better lefty…also that being said, none of the other catchers in the trio have been a ball of fire at the plate either…. so let’s see what we can see with what we have and shore up the other areas in a few weeks at the deadline!
Well, besides that though.. 😉
Other than the fact that Dombrowski had planned to release Swihart nearly two months ago before Cora objected, and the fact the Sox have tried hard to trade Swihart since spring training, you’re 100% correct that the Sox didn’t want to let him go on waivers.
And that’s why the Red Sox carried Swihart rather than expose him to waivers or trade him.
It will be interesting to see if they’re content to rely on Swihart, or if this inspires them to make a move for, e.g., Ramos or Realmuto. They might lack the prospects to land Realmuto, but Ramos seems like a feasible option.
I agree with that. Robinson Chirinos might be another option too
Statistically (this season) Leon was actually playing better than Vasquez. I think that Leon and Swihart should be more than sufficient to handle the load until Vasquez comes back (Assuming he will be on track to come back this season) if it looks like he’s done for the year – then (if Swihart can’t prove his worth) the Sox might need to go out and get someone. But not JT – he’s great don’t get me wrong but giving up the prospects needed to get him when you already have Leon and Vasquez coming back — that just doesn’t make any sense.
What prospects…the cub bard is bare buddy!
JT ain’t coming for the bag of balls the Sox can offer as best!
Funny thing is that you think cupboard is bare. Sure they don’t have top-tier trade chips, but they have some good prospects. I don’t believe they need Realmuto, maybe just a small rental until Vasquez is back.
The real interesting issue is Leon and the Wright issue of catching the knuckle baller when he comes back… even Vezquez has struggled with it at times and it just plain ate up Sweihart two years ago
As a White Sox fan I’ll offer you Kevan Smith for CJ Chatham or Bobby Dalbec.
They are players, down the road, that may have to replace Devers and/ or Bogaerts.. It appears As you probably know they were college players–my guess, Like Bene, they may get to AA in July, get a little more experience at AA Portland. One or both might get a September call up.
If I were the GM I might consider Dalbec and Chatham for Kopech and Smith–2 for 2.
I was sorry to see Kopech included in the Sale trade. Got to give something to get something good. Both teams got what they were looking for.
It’s well documented, the farm system lacks talent. It was all traded away or promoted so there is NO DEPTH. That’s what you get with Trader Dave in charge.
The funny thing is you actually think Realmuto is a realistic option
Me? I certaintly don’t. I mean let’s not be stupid the Red Sox have the pieces to acquire him – but they wouldn’t be willing to give those pieces up. Just because their farm system isn’t what it used to be – the whole “will they have the assets to trade for xyz?” thing is overblown. There are still plenty of guys worthwhile in their system – not to mention guys like Devers in the majors who could hypothetically be trade chips. But I sure as heck hope they don’t do anything (and they won’t) that foolish.
DREAMiNG buddy! To think the Sox have the pieces to acquire him is just fantasy. Jeter isn’t taking what the Red Sox have to offer…..
Dude Rocky the Red Sox could acquire Realmuto it’s just not smart too. They would have to trade Devers or 10d to do it and that just wouldn’t be smart.
No Bruin1012, Jeter obviously doesn’t drink the Sox cool aid on Devers when it comes to his all star catcher or talks would have progressed further than nowhere which is where they have been.
Actually no Rocky the Red Sox aren’t trading Devers that’s why the talks haven’t progressed. The Red Sox could get him but like I said it would not be smart to do so. I’m sure Jeter would love to have Devers but not going to happen.
“might lack the prospects to land Realmuto”?
Not on your best day do they have the prospects to even open up a conversation with Jeter and the Marlins…..Jeter is no fool when it comes to evaluating talent and the Sox got very little to none on the farm.
Rocky7, I would love to hear how you have determined “Jeter is no fool when it comes to evaluating talent”. Your laughable for making such a comment.
J. T. incoming
Devers outgoing.
LOL.. Red Sox don’t have the players to get JT unless they trade a devers or benintendi
Why on earth would the Marlins want Devers? BA looks legit at third
Oh I don’t know Kenneth why would he Marlins want a 21 year old who is already playing in the big leagues who is just scratching the surface of his potential is controlled through 2023. Yea why in the world would a team like the Marlins want someone like him.
Benintendi would automatically be the best player on the Marlins. By a long shot. He is going nowhere.
They can’t get Realmuto then
Devers aint gonna do it…..Jeter isn’t drinking the Sox cool aid on that guy.
rocky7 is stone cold drunk off his azz from Jeter cool aid. Rocky7 has Jeter going into the HOF as a GM now.
Maybe the Red Sox should go after Peter O’Brien. He doesnt get rave reviews as a catcher, but still depth.
Quality use of MLBTR memes, friend
But does his OF defense draw rave reviews?
I think I once beat a dead horse who told me O’brien, in fact, does NOT draw rave reviews on his defense as a catcher or OF.
Call up the padres about Aj Ellis. Rental, having a great season. Low cost acquisition.
I say cash in while you can.
Ellis, Ross, Yates, Stammen, Pirela for Groome and Cj Chatham. Two rentals and relievers for next year and Pirela to play 2B instead of Nunez.
5 mlb players for 2 prospects if I read this right… If groome was Ronald acuna and Chatham was Vlad Jr. then maybe, otherwise this makes no sense from the pads perspective.
I hope you’re both kidding… first off the move isn’t even realistic in a video game like you don’t just acquire 1/5 of your roster in June/July. Secondly… the Pads would jump at the opportunity to turn scrubs into Jason Groome – Chatham, eh maybe he actually could profile as an everyday IF but regardless — this makes 0 sense in the real world.
They aren’t scrubs. I agree that they can’t acquire that many people but it’s a pretty fair value deal
Talking about Groome pre-TJ surgery…..post you don’t know what you are going to get…..TJ surgery isn’t the golden ticket to success.
Rocky7, you forgot the part when you say, “Jeter is no fool”. It’s become blatantly obvious your the fool bud.
Ellis and Ross are free agents at seasons end.
Stammer and yates both are in their 30s- stammer is on a 2 year deal- yates is a fa after 2020. Padres have plenty of pen arms.
Pirela is redundant with spangenberg asuaje and soon urias to be called up.
Padres had interest in groome and I’m sure preller would love him
Now we will see if the Red Sox trust Swihart at all to catch.
Absolutely. BOS can’t keep him buried on the bench any longer. He’ll either have to back up Leon, be traded, or DFAd.
Guess we will find out tonight… he is in the line up!
Let’s say Vazquez is out 3 weeks. This should give Swihart approx. 5-9 starts behind the plate assuming a normal rotation with Sandy Leon. I guarantee the Redsox will know one way or another whether or not, with the trade deadline looming, to fish or cut bait on Blake Swihart by the time Vazquez returns.
They already know what they have. They can’t send him down and haven’t received a reasonable return offer.
They were hoping Swihart would up his value by hitting 250 to 280 but he hasn’t. He’ll wind up getting shipped out for a low-level minor Leaguer before the deadline.
Its a cather…sox will notntrade unless it’s meaninfull and package is meaningless
“It’s a cather….”
Sorry, Willa Cather is unavailable.
If the Red Sox don’t use Swihart behind the plate now, then they are effectively admitting they have absolutely no idea what they are doing with him.
They were hoping he would hit to improve his value in a trade. They’ll send him out at the deadline for a low-level minor leaguer.
Vasquez is a vastly overrated game caller. I think he’s overrated in general.
Preach
I highly disagree, he’s a great BAC. Being a great game caller is highly subjective anyways, that’s an anecdotal statement. Lots of catchers know what pitch to call based on their little cheat sheet on their wrist anyways, Cam Newton style. And pitchers can shake off.
Weakest argument in the book.
The bulk of the work for game calling happens long before the game actually starts.
Disagree. I think his game calling is shaky, I don’t think he frames pitches particularly well and I think his decision making is suspect. His defense is also truck or treat. Throwing out runners is his strength and he seems to prioritize that over pitch calling or pitch framing. He’ll call a fastball with a guy on base JUST so he has a chance to throw the runner out. His whole game rubs me the wrong way.
None of these is an option for 3 weeks; Crazy. Butler would work with Leon for 3 weeks.
Happ or Hamels maybe .
Ghatham can play. Let’s see if Mata does anything in the Futures game.
Bobby Dalbec has been hot @ Salem–19 Dingers and 70 RBI.
.245 BA—3 B—Chavis has been working his way back at Rookie level Lowell.. They could free up a Devers trade or his move to 1 B.
They have some people they don’t want to rush.
Dan Butler? See if Vartiek or Ross want to come out of retirement.
Why don’t they just call up Óscar Hernández? Oscar doesn’t hit, but is great defensively.
Good news for NY.
He may not add much on O but he is their best defensive catcher.
Leon is also very good defensively.
Trolling Yankees fans yet again. You obviously know nothing about the Yankees.
Ouch, dang
The fact is Sandy Leon is one of the best defensive catchers in the game and the pitchers on the Red Sox love to throw to him. The big question is if the Sox pitchers will throw to Swihart. I do agree if they don’t use Swihart at this point then what are you doing keeping him. The Red Sox are not going to trade for Realmuto there is no reason to they don’t have the trade chips in the minors and they will not and should not deal Devers or 10d. If they do add someone it would be small add and would almost certainly completely torpedo any chance at future value of Swihart.
Agree with all you said except the part about Leon being one of the best defensive catchers in the game….a bit of an overstatement don’t you think. The Sox pitchers may in fact like throwing to him, just like the Yankee pitchers probably prefer Romines’s defense to Sanchez…but I wouldn’t call Romine one of the best defensive catchers in the game.
By the numbers Leon is an excellent defensive catcher he is a great pitch framer, he is good at controlling the running game and every has one of the best catchers era in the game so yes he is excellent defensively. He is a black hole offensively though:
On a team that has Vazquez, Devers, JBJ, Nunez and Swihart you are calling Leon a black hole? LOL! Sandy is middle of the pack in OPS right now among all 21 AL catchers with at least 125 PA’s. He’s also got a better OBP than the five teammates I named, and a better OPS than four of them. Most importantly, Sox pitchers have performed much better with him behind the plate than with Vazquez.
All we need is a decent backup who can hit above .230
Time to escort Doug Mirabelli to the field.
LMAO….u da man………
Oh where have you gone Tony Pena.
Realmuto would be such a pick up for the Sox if they got him. Mark my words that mans going to be a hall of famer one day
How many times do you all need to be told that the Sox don’t have the minor leaguers to even attempt a trade without throwing in Devers and then some.
This guy is an All Star and he’s not coming cheap….Jeter is no fool when it comes to a talent return for the future.
And that’s why the Sox don’t go there! Long term does not fit in Boston
Rocky7, How many times can you make me laugh when you say Jeter is no fool. Your obvious hard on for Jeter is becoming super creepy.
Just as many times that you ignorantly say, “Jeter is no fool” According to Rocky7, Jeter is now the grand wizard of assessing talent.
lol on the Sox having what it takes to get him. lmfao on the HOF prediction..come-on-man
Realmuto is out of every organization’s price range. He’s not going anywhere.
Lol
….since Swihart has to catch now, I guess that nixes his trade to the Mets even up for deGrom., huh??
You can have Russell Martin for pretty much any AA prospect. Just shout. 😉
I don’t understand the appeal of trading for someone like Realmuto. I hate the idea of an organization shelling out prospects for a catcher. Seems like more often than not there is a break offensive season for a catcher that is followed by middle of the road numbers. Offense isn’t a concern, at all. Pitching pitching pitching.
MARTIN!
If the Red Sox want to bring up a great fielding catcher, call up Oscar Hernandez. They lived without the offense with Vazquez. Oscar calls a good game and crushes runners on the basepaths.. Otherwise, pick up Cerveli who is readily available if the Sox are willing to pick up the contract.
Is Jeter a fool? Help me out friends; this seems like the time and place to raise such a question.
This has been great ‘Wall to Wall’ Red Sox chat–better than Sox Talk Radio in Beantown. Thanks.
Jeter is no fool and he got Stanton out of the NL and got some talent in return–not great but good potential.
The Yanks have a great blend of youth and veterans. They will be good for the next 5-10. The Sox will have to start planning soon for the next ‘gen’ as they will not be able to stay under the Luxury Tax and keep Betts, Boggie, JDM, Devers, Bene, Sale, Price, Porcello, Kimbrel and others. But for the time being it’s very entertaining!
If you had the tiles Swihart in Scrabble, you can make the word wraiths. Just saying.
Could they suck vasquez off anymore?? Smh.