Third baseman Brandon Drury was in the package the Yankees offered the Orioles for shortstop Manny Machado, Nick Cafardo of the Boston Globe reports. The Yankees’ proposal didn’t suffice for the Orioles, who sent Machado to the Dodgers for a five-player return on Wednesday. Drury has also been part of a 2018 trade, an offseason deal in which he went from the Diamondbacks to the Yankees, but he hasn’t been able to find steady playing time in New York. After entering the season as the Yankees’ starting third baseman, the 25-year-old Drury headed to the disabled list with migraines in early April, paving the way for rookie Miguel Andujar’s emergence at the hot corner. While Drury also offers a fair amount of experience at second base and in the corner outfield, the Yankees have set starters in those spots.
Thanks largely to the presences of Andujar, Gleyber Torres, Aaron Judge, Giancarlo Stanton and Brett Gardner, Drury has amassed just 54 plate appearances with the Yankees and spent most of the season in the minors. Drury hasn’t done much in his limited work with New York, as his .184/.259/.286 batting line demonstrates, but he has posted a .294/.403/.447 slash in 233 Triple-A plate appearances. He’s also not far removed from a decent showing with Arizona, where he batted .275/.323/.453 with 29 HRs in 979 PAs from 2016-17, and comes with a cheap salary ($621,900) and three years of arbitration eligibility. Perhaps the Yankees will find a taker for Drury in the near future, then, though they’re surely not in a hurry to give away any depth.
- Sticking with the Yankees, Cafardo relays that teams are scouting right-hander Sonny Gray, and some clubs are under the impression New York wants to trade him. The Yankees paid a high price to the A’s for Gray at last year’s trade deadline, but the move hasn’t worked out as hoped for the Bombers. Gray has taken sizable steps backward this season, with a 5.34 ERA/4.42 FIP in 96 innings, and may not be worthy of trusting in a playoff series should the Yankees get to that point. The 28-year-old’s making $6.5MM in 2018 and is only controllable via arbitration for one more season.
- The Blue Jays “hope” to trade pending free-agent third baseman Josh Donaldson this summer, according to Cafardo. A superstar with Oakland and Toronto from 2013-16, Donaldson’s amid his second straight injury-plagued year and has only appeared in 36 games this season. Not only has Donaldson been on the DL twice (including since May 29 because of calf tightness), but he hasn’t offered his usual excellent production when healthy. The 32-year-old has hit a middling .234/.333/.423 in 159 plate appearances, helping to hurt his value on the trade market and hamper his future earning power. In the event Donaldson returns in the coming weeks, he could wind up as an August trade piece, though his injury problems, decline in production and lofty salary ($23MM) would make it difficult for Toronto to get much back in a deal.
- It’s “likely” the Rangers will find a trade partner for left-hander Cole Hamels, writes Cafardo, who adds that the Phillies, Yankees and Braves undoubtedly have interest. The Red Sox may also be among teams with Hamels on their radar, per Cafardo. Phillies general manager Matt Klentak doesn’t seem keen on dipping into the trade market for starters, though, and it’s no lock Hamels would even be part of the solution for them or any other team. The 34-year-old’s struggles this season are well known, and his $22.5MM salary for 2018 and $6MM buyout for 2019 don’t help matters.
- Marlins righty Dan Straily is drawing interest, per Cafardo. The 29-year-old’s not having a particularly good season (4.02 ERA/5.27 FIP with 7.24 K/9, 4.25 BB/9 and a 33.5 percent groundball rate over 78 1/3 innings), but he’s affordable and controllable. Straily’s on a $3.37MM salary this season and has another two years of arbitration eligibility remaining.
c1234
No surprise Yankees tried to pull off another weak trade
Adam6710
How can you grade a trade when you don’t know what was in it? And it really shouldn’t surprise you. Cashman has pulled off many trades that heavily favored them.
jb19
No top 100 prospects and Brandon Drury for Manny Machado? That sounds like a yankees’ fan’s idea of a “fair trade.”
qbass187
Yankee fans think other teams want all their trash and should be happy it was even offered.
jekporkins
Yankee fans also say their top prospects are leagues better than other teams’ prospects, and should be considered gold compared to bronze. I’ve read that here a couple times in the last month and I shake my head every time a Yankee fan reacts to trade proposals.
rocky7
So I would guess all you Yankee haters think that the Dodgers return was “solid Gold” for a rental player that will test the free agent market.
I guess you can’t teach dumb!
rocky7
jb19….I guess you and Cash worked long into the night crafting the trade proposal for Machado that ultimately failed the way you talk about knowing what was in the proposal other than what that blowhard Cafardo says…..too bad but you’ll catch up on your sleep as you seem to be half asleep as you write your comments!
Bocephus
They obviously sit on their hands hoping for meaningless stuff like this. Cafardo has even less credibility than Stormy Daniels.
driftcat28 2
To be fair, a lot of the yankees “trash” still tops other teams minor leaguers
Adam6710
Who said it had to be a fair trade? The Yankees weren’t interested in doing a fair trade. Because they didn’t need a shortstop.
If they could get him for something less, they’d have done it. Maybe use your brain.
yankeeempire
Why would they go nuts and offer better players for a 2 Month rental when they already have talent at SS and 3B. Best case scenario happened. He went to NL. They need to get pitching.
KnicksFanCavsFan
Where does it say that Drury was the only player on the Yankees side? Torres, Andujar and Sheffield weren’t the only Yankee guys on the earlier released top 100 lists. And if a team had a 3b in thier system they would be happy if he ended up being the next Drury, so don’t sneeze at him either like hrs garbage. He still has 3 to 4 years of control left.
Cuso
Where did you read that it didn’t include any top 100 prospects. Oh, that’s right, you didn’t.
Also, if you believe anything Nick Cafardo writes, you’ve been huffing too much glue.
ac106
I don’t think credibility means what you think it means
Boogaloo
Judge, Sanchez, Bird, Torres, Green, Holder, Andujar, Severino.
Hard to imagine where they got the idea their prospects are better, lol.
thecoffinnail
Agreed Boogaloo but you left out Betances and Montgomery. Gardner and Robertson were Yankee prospects as well.
Speak da Truth
Actually the Dodgers got as good of a chance to sign Machado long term as any team does.Imo i believe it’s why they gave up what they did for him. Hopefully counting on him signing with them once seeing how it is in L.A and how they do in the post season.
I don’t think they would’ve traded for him if they didn’t think they could persuade him to sign long term with them.
Begamin
did you expect the Yankees to dump the farm for a player they didnt need? they probably threw out an offer they were comfortable with. the more desperate you are to fill a position the more comfortable you are giving up more. the yankees had no desperation to fill an infield position so they didnt offer much. its how it goes
Begamin
+coffinnail
dustin fowler, jake cave, and solarte too. just to name a few of ones they traded away
mikeyank55
Qbass and Jek-your mommy’s have sounded the alarm clock. It’s time to
Go home and take Xanax so that your mouths are not foaming when they
Put you to
Bed.
mikeyank55
There’s a perfectly rationale explanation for CT1234’s post. He’s suffering from Mets syndrome which is a combination of multiple tommy John procedures, a dozen rotator cuff surgeries combined with water deprivation, hip and quad issues coupled with foot problems impacted by hoof and mouth disease.
WARNING: wear a mask EVERY TIME CT1234 posts or he could infect you!
MB923
All it said was that he was in the package. It didn’t say straight up. And as Adam said , Cash has usually been successful with this trades (Hicks, DiDi, Swisher, etc)
tonypro7
As an O’s fan I’m very happy with the prospects received from LA. Particularly Diaz of course. I wouldn’t have minded Drury included in a Yankee deal, but with being in the same division the Yankees would’ve had to add at least 2 of their top prospects. According to reports they wouldn’t even offer ONE. I get it…. if they didn’t sign Manny long term they would’ve had to face those prospects for years. But the same goes for the O’s. If they would’ve taken lower Yankee prospects, THEY would’ve heard about it for years. Probably better for everyone that a deal wasn’t made.
KnicksFanCavsFan
It doesn’t imply they weren’t willing to give up top prospects. It just said they didn’t want to include Sheff.
thecoffinnail
You do realize that the Yankees would be playing against those top 2 prospects for the next 6 years? If the Orioles thought the Yankees package was better than the Dodgers then Machado would be a Yankee right now. Regardless if the Yankees top prospects were included or not. He was a luxury that they took a shot on. Nothing more nothing less. Look through prior deadlines. Teams are very willing to trade 2 month rentals within their own division. They don’t do it when it’s multiple years of control remaining. I seem to remember the Orioles only having to give up one semi-decent pitching prospect to the Red Sox for the best rental reliever on the market a few years ago.
tonypro7
It was reported that the Yankees wouldn’t offer any of their top 10 prospects.
tonypro7
Coffinnail.. your first sentence. Did you read what I wrote. I said EXACTLY THAT in my post. Also, the semi decent prospect you’re referring to is now 11-3 with 3.44 ERA
Free Clay Zavada
Had to go back to Swisher as an example, a trade from like 10 years ago? Haha
Adam6710
Giancarlo Stanton, Aaron Hicks, Didi Grigorious, Starlin Castro. All excellent major leaguers acquired at minimal cost of talent over the past 3-4 seasons.
Does not even include the Chapman and Miller trades that got them Gleyber Torres, Clint Frazier, and Justus Sheffield.
Very happy with Cashman’s trades, and when I hear a trade didn’t happen (like Machado), I trust it was for a good reason.
MB923
I also did DiDi and Hicks which were in the last 3 years.
Mjm117
Stanton “minimal” cost was paying 260+million of Stanton’s contract. Besides both prospects that came back to the Fish are doing quite well.
bigkempin
Stanton was acquired at a minimal prospect cost because they’re paying the majority ($265M) of his contract.
thegreatcerealfamine
It was a beneficial trade for both sides. 265 or 365 doesn’t matter they have both the money and threshold space.
arc89
Did I miss something when did Drury become a covet piece by other teams. He is nothing more than a back up utility player. They will eventually open up their farm system to trade but it sounded like they didn’t want Machado if Drury is part of the package.
ctcramer46
Haha I know. Any team can search through the last 10 years of trades for their team and find 5 examples where it worked out well for them lol
KnicksFanCavsFan
Please learn the difference between a utility player vs a player that can play multiple positions. Drury is our utility guy simply because he was “Wally Pipped” by Andujar. Otherwise he’d be our starting 3b. Look at his numbers from 2016 and 2017. Not an all-st s r but certainly could start for most teams at -eb.
jdgoat
Knickscavsfan, who would Drury be starting 3b on? His numbers have always been league average at best and were actually below average last year. He is what he is, a utility player.
Boogaloo
Ok, which is your team and tell me the 5 great trades.
Lol
ShieldF123
JDGoat, last season with Arizona Drury was good for 1.6 WAR. That is equal to or better than the WAR produced by 18 of the 30 teams in the league at 3B so far this year. So I’m pretty sure he could start at 3B on alot of teams.
And that includes the Red Sox by the way, who are dead last this year with -0.4 WAR at 3B
jdgoat
You can’t say he put up more WAR in a full season than what guys have put up in a half season. How does that possibly make sense? If anything, it hinders your argument. 18 our 30 have already been better than what he was last year
ShieldF123
Negative. You have the number wrong first of all.
12 have been better than his WAR so far in well over half of a season. The All-Star break is not the halfway point. Most teams have already played 100 games. And I’m using a teams TOTAL production at 3B, not just their starter.
Point still stands that teams like Boston have negative WAR at 3B which is not going to trend upwards or ever come close to what Drury could provide them.
jdgoat
Ok I misread a bit. But still, he could not start on a lot of teams like you stated before.
Almost every team has a primary third baseman that’s better than him.
The only teams that might not are the Orioles, White Sox, Red Sox, and Twins
rocky7
MB923….you don’t have to defend what you said too all the holes that only comment to denigrate the Yankees or their fans…..just idiots talking out of their rear orifice.
luclusciano
Like the ones that work? Yeah, pretty weak
c1234
I never said a weak trade is a bad thing. It’s smart it’s just that they never give up prospects. They are very good at keeping there prospects.
dobsonel
If I recall they gave up several top 100 prospects last year.
rocky7
And I guess you would call Oakland’s return to the Mets for Familia by BB a “strong return”?
Judge Judy
I don’t know what Cash was thinking. Drury should be saved for a young controllable ace.
nfunk115
Hamels to the Yankees please
rivera42
No, thank you.
jonnymac2for1
No surprise? What does that mean?
xfloydsterx
straily to the mariners.
Mjm117
For a package highlighted by Sam Carlson or White sure
embalmer
Back to the Reds
Mjm117
Im down for Santillan and Shed Long
acarneglia
I wonder if Gray could be included in a trade for a higher caliber starter like MadBum or Archer
nyy42
Archer is closer to Gray talent than higher caliber!
Mjm117
Stop it. Yankees would be doing jumping jacks if they had Archer instead of Gray
Mjm117
And why would SF want Gray to give up a top 10 SP?
Adam6710
A plausible scenario: SF wants Andujar, Frazier, and Sheffield. Yankees balk at the price, but agree to part with the trio if SF takes Gray.
I don’t think that happens, and I do believe Gray still has value, but something like that is the way a Gray trade probably happens if at all.
99Trey
Gray doesn’t have negative trade value, his struggles are mental and mostly related to pitching at Yankee stadium, there are tons of teams, especially smaller markets that would love to have a chance to get him for cheap. He keeps pitching like he has the past two starts and the best player available at the deadline could be Sonny Gray.
nyy42
Lol
rocky7
Don’t think so…..Archer for all the “potential” that has been hyped for years by all doesn’t seem to be able to put a big year together and distinguish himself from the rest of the Rays pitching squad….it seems as if they always have 2-3 pitchers that are on the radar of many teams.
Gray, was touted as a breakout pitcher that would flourish when surrounded by the offense he needed to succeed. He still can’t get past the 5th inning of even his last 2 wins…..not what the Yankees thought they’d be getting when making the trade….seems like BB fleeced another team with him over-hyped Oakland players!
rocky7
Line those teams up right now that want Gray….the Yankees are ready to talk!
grant schibilia
Archer isn’t even a 500 pitcher after all these years. He is at best a 4th or 5th starter for the yankees.
KnicksFanCavsFan
Archer is a solid #3. Please don’t use wins/losses as your go to stat.
KnicksFanCavsFan
Why would the Yanks do that? Gray is not a salary dump. He’s not on some huge multi year dealmi think he earns $6 mil this year, has 1 more arbitration year and then becomes a FA. Yanks could just nin-tenderb him and not owe ANYTHING to him at all past this year. That’s obviously not going to happen t ho as he can still be useful in the back of the rotation.
Adam6710
In a vacuum he has positive value, but whether his problems are mental or not, he has put up ghastly numbers and to move him, the Yanks may have to make some concessions.
Boogaloo
Ok, which is your team and tell me the 5 great trades.
Lol
jdgoat
Trey, No team is going to write of the past year because of a couple starts. He might return a couple lottery prospects but it’ll be nowhere near what they gave up
pinstripes7
Yeah, against the last place Orioles and the last place Mets…
jdgoat
Lmao
Perksy
San Fran is in the race, they’re not trading madbum.
PopeMarley
Even if they weren’t they’re not trading Bumgarner.
99Trey
Bumgarner is not the same guy from 2 years ago. The Giants would be smart to trade now rather then to watch his value slip over the next year. He’s worth two top 25 type prospects now, next year they’ll be lucky to get a Machado type top 75 prospect + junk deal. Playing .500 ball isn’t exactly “in the race”. There are at least 7 teams in the NL that are markedly better. I don’t understand their reluctance to sell, they still have home grown guys like Posey to placate the fans, and they can always resign him after next year. 2 stud prospects plus a few lottery picks would really help get their barren farm system going again. If they are still bad in two years, which they clearly will be at this point, Bum might not even resign.
arc89
Giants will not sell off madbum because the season ticket holders love the old giants. Look how Pence and Sandoval are still playing on the team. Yes the Giants should trade Madbum for a huge package of a top prospect and a few very good ones. probably could net 5 minor league players with a top 20 overall prospect. yanks would need to package Sheffield, Andujar, Frazier, and Estan Florial. They will not do it so no use bringing up his name in trades.
ShieldF123
You guys need to get realistic with your proposed trades and expectations. You say 1 top prospect and then some good ones, and then proceed to list the Yanks top 2 prospects who are both top 100 in the MLB and two young controllable starters with upside.
Get real, there isn’t a player in SF that would be worth that, and there are only a few players in the entire league that would be (Trout).
Caseys..Partner
“Blue Jays ‘hope’ to trade pending free-agent third baseman Josh Donaldson this summer, according to Cafardo.”
This is like going down to the local 7/11 and getting the name of someone buying a lottery ticket and noting that the buyer “hopes it’s a winner.”
Connorsoxfan
Sonny Gray back to Oakland? That would be awesome. It won’t happen, but it would be fun.
pinstripes7
For Trivino, sure.
jdgoat
I wonder why they’re ok with parting with Drury but not Wade. I think a reasonable ceiling for Wade would be a Drury type player, but Brandon has actually had success in the minors.
KnicksFanCavsFan
Wade doesn’t profile to have the power you usually expect from a 3b. He’s more contract and speed. Think Gardner when he was younger.
Boogaloo
Wade had a .842 OPS in the minors last year with 26 steals and is a well above average defender at 22 years old.
Think that qualifies as success in the minors.
jdgoat
One out of five years and he’s back to being mediocre this year
E munchy
Ok we’ll take Drury. Y’all take Chris Davis and his contract and we’ll call it a deal! Win Win! Haha
ray_derek
Milwaukee should be all over Drury, but they’ll want him without having to give much up.
rocky7
Drury is not getting traded for “not much”…..he was a starting 2nd baseman for 2 years in Arizona, and can play all over the diamond. Plus his offense, especially his gap power is awesome.
He just hasn’t gotten the chance in NY unfortunately, although he should.
Maybe you should catch another Happy Days rerun!
jdgoat
He’d get a couple lotto picks but I doubt he’d get a prospect in a teams top 15
KnicksFanCavsFan
That’s insane to say that. Yanks traded a good prospect to get him. What has he done negatively other that suffer thru an injury?
jdgoat
He’s been in the minors the whole year pretty much and struggled in the majors. They won’t be getting back a guy as good as Solak. If they really are open to trading Drury, it’ll go down as one of his few recent misses
Houston We Have A Solution
While you watch all the rocky movies for the billionth time. Your expectations for drury are as bad as rocky v.
rbm915
The Yankees will likely be interested in a discounted Donaldson considering they were also interested in Machado.
I wouldn’t be surprised if NYY and TOR discuss a deal built around Happ and Donaldson to NYY and Andujar + going to Tor. It would be like the NYY/CWS deal last summer, but with higher profile assets.
thegreatcerealfamine
It will never happen and if it did it would be nothing like the White Sox deal.
Adam6710
I’d be very surprised if Cashman parts with Andujar for that kind of return. Straight-up (Andujar for Donaldson & Happ) I wouldn’t even do that deal, not this season the way Boston is playing.
KnicksFanCavsFan
Yanks weren’t interested in getting a 3b. They were interested in getting a Manny Machado. Donaldson has no nothing that we don’t have.
Philliesfan4life
The phillies should be looking at Britton, Vazquez from the pirates , and another bat. They are going to win the nl east and prove everyone wrong.
steelerbravenation
If Donaldson shows he is healthy I wouldn’t mind the Braves taking a chance on him for the rest of the season
elscorchot
I wonder what the Marlins would have to give up for Gray. He just seems overwhelmed by the pressure of playing for New York. He did well in Oakland without that stress.
Paul Heyman
Probably Dan Straily and one of either Kyle barraclough or brad Ziegler. Also a prospect or 2
ctcramer46
That’s a good joke
mike156
Love it when Cafardo tries Jedi mind tricks and stirs the pot with the barely plausible/ possible to get people nuts.
Bocephus
It’s not just his cluelessness but the fact he’s a Boston writer trying to predict Yankees moves. Give me Joel Sherman over this guy anytime and I think Sherman is an idiot.
madmanTX
Hamels to your team for all your prospects. Your team takes on his full contract.
TheAdrianBeltre
We will also throw in Odor and maybe Choo for all your tradable international money.
bobtillman
It’s incredible….Dury labored in relative obscurity for years, gets traded to the Spanks, and all of a sudden becomes Mike Schmidt…….only in Yankee-land….
Dury’s not a bad player….nor is he an especially good one……but as a “centerpiece” of a Machado or MadBum deal??????????
I see the ghost of Rob Refsnyder walking down the halls of the “House that Horace Clarke built”……
thegreatcerealfamine
“Drury labored in relative obscurity for years” Drury only had two full seasons with the Diamondbacks in which he hit quite respectively..you act like the guys is way older then 25 and played for 10 seasons.
Yankees weren’t the only ones this past winter that showed interest in him. I don’t know who your team is and could give a rats behind, but I’m sure we could have some fun with them like you’re trying to do here with the Yanks. Try checking your facts dude.
arc89
Drury is a utility player but his range is not that great. Every team has a Drury like player on their team. That is why the Drury in a package for Machado is strange to mention. He would be a throw in a package nothing you would center any package around.
99Trey
If every team in baseball has a Drury type player why are the Sox still playing Eduardo Nunez? Drury would be an immediate upgrade at second for about 5 major league teams and probably another 2 at 3rd. He was never mentioned as the centerpiece in the Machado proposal so chill out. He’s also much more then a throw in. His value is probably somewhere in the top 150-200 prospect range.
ShieldF123
He’s a better player than Devers all around. So all those Sox fans trying to propose trading Devers for a big return should be lauding Drury as the second coming
mehs
Drury Career WAR 1.3 over parts of 4 seasons.
2015 -0.2, 2016 -0.4, 2017 1.9, 2018 -0.4.
Ryan Flaherty has a career WAR of 2.4 over parts of 7 seasons. He matches up pretty well by the numbers including his first 4 seasons.
2012 -0.3, 2013 1.3, 2014 1.4, 2015 -0.1.
Basically the same utility player. Flaherty was a prospect once also as he was drafted in the first round in 2008.
bernbabybern
Where does it say “centerpiece”?
PopeMarley
It doesn’t he’s obviously another hater.
Houston We Have A Solution
Every yankees fans comment thinking drury is worth more than he is.
Yankee fans think a guy hitting .184/.259/.286 that strikes out nearly 4x as much as he walks should net them syndergaard or degrom while keeping most their prospects.
KnicksFanCavsFan
PLEASE read the article and show me where it says he was the highlight of the proposed package. I’ll wait.
Also, he’s only two years into his career and while he’s no All-Star he has averaged 15 hrs and 34 dbls each season. If he came out of YOUR system I guarantee you your attitude towards him would be “at 25 he’s still maturing but is showing he can be a possible all-star with more experience”.
majorflaw
“ . . . while he’s no All-Stat he has averaged 15 HRs . . . each season.”
Time out. We’re talking about Drury, right? He has hit 32 HRs in 4 years in MLB. By my calculations that’s an average of 8 HRs per year. Which one of us is missing something?
ShieldF123
You don’t math very well do you.
He had less than 60 plates appearances one of those years, and he’s got less than 60 his year as well. So basically two full years in the majors
majorflaw
“He had less than 60 plates appearances one of those years, and he’s got less than 60 his year as well.” (sic)
Um, those years count too. He has <60 PA this year because the Yanks believed they had a better option.
“So basically two full years in the majors.”
Yet it’s four years for HoF and bb-ref purposes.
“You don’t do math very well do you.”
I did just fine. This isn’t a math problem, it’s a question of whether seasons in which a player played less than you like still count. They do, as the old perfesser used to say, “You can look it up.” You don’t do arguin’, typin’ or English very well. Cheers.
TheTrotsky
Baseball Reference puts his 162 game home run average at 17, and they are including all 4 years. So your math is off.
majorflaw
“Baseball Reference puts his 162 game home run average at 17, and they are including all 4 years . . . “
Right but that number represents HRs per 162 games played, not per season. It’s common for players to have a 162 game average which is higher than any single season because most players do not play all 162 games. It’s sort of a player’s theoretical ceiling.
“So your math is off.”
Once again, this isn’t a math problem.
Adam6710
When did anyone say he’s Mike Schmidt? He’s a good, relatively young player with a lot of upside, and is useful all around the diamond.
My gut tells me he could evolve into another Didi Gregorious if given everyday playing time. Maybe hit .275 with 25 home runs, with more value because he can do it at multiple positions.
The problem is, Gleyber Torres and Miguel Andujar give him nowhere to play in the infield, and the Yankees outfield is likewise jammed.
driftcat28 2
Gray will end up the same way Burnett & Nova did, banished to Pittsburgh
jdgoat
That’s actually very possible. I could see him in SD too
bleacherbum
Agreed. San Diego seems like a pretty logical landing place for Sonny Gray.
Something like Kirby Yates and Tyson Ross for Sonny Gray and Brandon Drury.
arc89
Why would the Padres want old players when they are in a rebuild? Rebuild teams want young controllable players. Gray and Drury do not fit that role.
KnicksFanCavsFan
Drury is 25 and has 4 years of control left. AND has already shown what his floor should be. He averaged 15 hrs AND 34 dbls his only 2 seasons in the minors. The only reason he’s not staying is because his migranes allowed Andujar to get playing time and he ran with it this making Drury a luxury to have. He’s too good to be utility guy but with Andujar and Torres both emerging this session, he doesn’t have a starting job anymore.
Houston We Have A Solution
Worked out well for them. Burnett enjoyed 3 good years with the bucs and nova got a new deal with decent money.
Adam6710
I’ m confused why fans are incredulous about Cashman including Drury in an offer for Machado. The Orioles didn’t accept that. But that was Cashman making the only offer he was willing to make for a player he didn’t need.
Fans reactionary idiocy is at an all-time high these days.
slider32
It’s all speculation nobody knows what was offered and it doesn’t matter anyway. It’s just all just sports writer fodder!
norcalblue
Thanks for that scoop on Drury. Come on, Drury is in every trade offer NYY make as he is not the player they expected when they acquired him. Drury needs to go to a small market, out-of-contention team, get some PT and re-establish his profile.
KnicksFanCavsFan
Seriously… You do know that he suffered migraines which kept him of the field right? It’s not like he failed. He had two very positive years to door what he can do. Yanks just don’t have a place for him since Andujar and Torres were called up. I can’t understand why ppl have such negative attitudes towards Drury and Frazier or why they think Drury was the centerpiece to a Machado offer.
Adam6710
He’s not the player they expected? How would you know? The Yankees haven’t given him the opportunity to play more than a handful of games in a row after returning from the DL.
norcalblue
They haven’t given Him the opportunity because he hasn’t earned it. Look at his splits in Arizona. He hit much better in that park than in less hitter friendly parks around the league. Why has he been rumored to be in just about every low ball offer the NYY are associated with over since April. Cashman wants to get rid of him.
TennVol
Prediction: Happ and Smoak to the Yankees for Gray and Sheffield. Fans on both teams will say its too much, but, it upgrades the Yankees rotation and 1b and unloads Gray and his poor performance to the Jays, who are winning nothing for the next few years. Sheffield may, or may not, turn into something. Happ and Smoak will help the Yankees win a championship now.
Donaldson to the Braves for a couple of their low minors but talented prospects somewhere in the Braves 5-20 ranking range. If Donaldson gets healthy, we would be the best hitter on the Braves team. Check out his second half last year once he was healthy.
KnicksFanCavsFan
Not a bad offer but I can’t see the Yanks moving Sheffield for rental players.
its_happening
If the Jays were to make trade #1 you proposed to New York they might as well hold onto Donaldson, give him a QO and attempt to keep him around with a 2-yr deal after he rejects the QO. He’d be the starting 1B next year without Smoak on the team, be a leader for Vlad Guerrero and have a bounce back year to deal him next year. Due to injury and now a suspect throwing arm, Donaldson’s worth has dropped considerably. Keeping him in Toronto allows the Jays to sell more shirts with his name on it.
jimmertee
Frank, I like your thinking, Happ from the Jays for Gray from the Yankees is a good foundation for a trade the teams would have to agree on extra pieces.
Smoak might be too much value. Morales and a releiver not named Clippard might be a better peices from the Jays. Who knows what the Yankees are willing to let go. Jays need as close to near ready pitching that they can get.
KnicksFanCavsFan
I feel like this needs to be said. Drury and Frazier are ever bit the players they were when they were with their previous teams. They didn’t suddenly become bad because they’re with the Yankees. The ONLY reason why they are made available in trades is because they are both blocked by other guys ( Andujar, Torres, Hicks, Stanton, Gardner).
I don’t know the others offered by the Yanks but one like Drury, Frazier, Chance Adams and a lower guy like Garrett Whitlock would be amazing.
KnicksFanCavsFan
Maybe not amazing but a good haul of players mlb radii ready with 4-6 years of control plus a guy like Whitlock who’s not a top 100 guy now but might be headed towards that.
Adam6710
The knock on Drury is that he’s older: he’ll be 26 next month. If it weren’t for Andujar though I’d be very happy to have him play 3B for the Yankees every day. He seems like good line drive hitter who’ll play solid defense.
jdgoat
I feel like you’re really overvaluing Drury. You do realize he was a below average hitter last year and only average the year before. There’s nothing wrong with that for a utility player, but he’s not the starting player you’re making him out to be
doxiedevil
The Braves will get a brain freeze now knowing the Blue Jays are shopping Josh Donaldson fairly cheap. Cheap… now that is Liberty Press to a tee.
The Braves are interested in everyone until they see they are not free. Keep up the dumsper diving AA… your hands are sadly tied.
TennVol
You need to read up on your GM. His track record in trades: Donaldson, Price, Tulo, and many others should tell you that he is not conservative. If anything, he is a gambler. You might be surprised over the next few years by the trades he makes. I know Jays fans were!
jimmertee
I would have to disagree with Cafardo. Donaldson is going nowhere at the trade deadline. His current value is a lottery ticket and the Jays would want better value than that. If anything the Jays give him a qualifying offer.
The real issue with Donaldson is the glaring mistake by Atkins not trading him last year at the deadline or in the winter of 2017 when about a billion intelligent people were [correctly] calling for it.
cjh815
Ok I have interesting block buster I think would make make some since 4 team trade braves , Yankees , blue jays , and reds
Reds would get
Lp mike pike
Rp Wes Parson
3b rio Ruiz
Lp Justus Sheffield
And international money from braves
Blues would get
Sp mike Soraka
Pp Jason Hursh
Rp Brandon McCarthy
Ss Derian Cruz
Lp Ricardo Sanchez
Yankees get
Lp Sam freeman
SP MAtt Harvey
Rp raisel Iglesias
Lp AJ Happ
Braves get
Lp Amir Garrett
Sp sonny gray
Of Clint Frazier
Rp Tyler Clipper
3b josh Donaldson
cjh815
And here would be the braves roster
Sp Fotzy
Sp Tehran
Sp Sanchez
Sp Newcomb
Sp gray
Rp Carle
Rp winkle
Rp clippard
LRp Garritt
lrp biddle
LRp minter
Closer vizcano
Starting line up
Cf Inciate
2b Albies
1b freeman
3b Donaldson
Rf Markakis
Lf acuna
C flowers
Ss Swanson
Bench
C Suzuki
If Culbertson
If Camargo
If Flahery
Of Frazier
tonypro7
My man, You’ve got too much time on your hands.
JKB 2
Its never going to happen why bother