10:18PM: “The industry belief” is that the Yankees and Brewers are the front-runners for Happ, Sherman writes. The Cubs still “might be in play,” though Chicago also asked the Jays about Marcus Stroman. In another tweet, Sherman mentions that the Blue Jays like Yankees infielder Brandon Drury.
9:33PM: The Yankees still look like the favorite for Happ right now, with Feinsand calling them “the leader” of the teams in pursuit, and SNYTV’s Andy Martino saying the Bombers are “in strong position.” A trade may not be imminent, as Joel Sherman of the New York Post hears that a deal is “unlikely” to take place tonight. (All links to Twitter.) Both Feinsand and Martino list the Cubs and Brewers still being involved, with Martino adding the Rockies as a new team to the Happ rumor mill. Feinsand feels the number of teams in on Happ will result in a nice trade return for the Blue Jays.
9:10PM: There are conflicting reports about the Yankees’ involvement in the trade, as Steve Phillips of MLB Network Radio on SiriusXM tweets that the Jays are “focusing on finalizing” the Happ deal with New York. Fancred’s Jon Heyman, however, reports that other teams are still in the running, and the Yankees “seem unaware they are getting [Happ], as of this moment.”
3:46PM: The Yankees are “heavy in the mix” for Happ, Feinsand tweets, with other teams (such as the Brewers) still possibly being in play. The Cubs are one of the other teams involved, according to Gordon Wittenmyer of the Chicago Sun-Times.
3:39PM: As the Blue Jays and Twins began action at 3:07pm CT today, Happ hadn’t heard about a trade, Fancred’s Jon Heyman tweets. Happ is in Toronto’s dugout, Sportsnet.ca’s Ben Nicholson-Smith and others have reported.
2:54PM: The Blue Jays “appear close” to striking a deal to send lefty J.A. Happ to a contender, according to MLB.com’s Mark Feinsand (via Twitter). Particulars of the potential match are entirely unknown, though certainly a variety of contenders make sense generally as destinations for the veteran starter.
Happ has mostly been a quality performer for the past several seasons. He currently sits at a 4.18 ERA on the present season, with peripherals suggesting he has been even more effective than the results would suggest. Though Happ endured a few rough outings recently, he racked up nine strikeouts and allowed just one earned run over five innings in his last start.
As a pending free agent on a struggling Toronto team, it has long seemed clear he’d be dealt this summer. Happ ranked sixth among trade deadline candidates on MLBTR’s recent list.
Last we heard, the Jays were said to be lowering their asking price on Happ as the deadline draws near. The Yankees, Phillies, and Cubs have been linked to him in recent weeks, though it’s not at all clear whether any of those teams is pressing to land the southpaw today.
I’m gonna guess he’s going back to Seattle.
Well done!
Hope so. The Ms shouldn’t have let Miranda go to Korea. They could use him now.
Miranda was not an answer
your not an answer
*You’re
Neither is Happ-less
Excellent pun lol
He was not ariel answer at least
Whoops swing and a miss on this one
Yankee bound?
Frank, Yup, Especially watching Cessa today who might be related to Schreve!!
Did we watch the same game? Cessa’s line today was 5.1IP 2ER, his last start he went 6 shutout innings.
Agreed, I’ll take numbers like that every 5th game. I’d rather see prospects traded for a better starting pitcher than Happ.
Plus, no way Cessa and Shreve are related. Maybe half-siblings, step-cousins, or in-laws, but full on related? I doubt that assertion.
Adam. yes
I have only seen him win that shut out 6 inning game since he is with the Yankees, and it slays me when management thinks these pitchers have great stuff, so they wait, and wait, they shouldn’t wait that long anymore,
they should shut the door behind them.
Guess you all like
Herman too lol.
Hey Doc,
cannot you believe really think I meant about those
2 being related, omg
Cessa has been very good in his past couple of starts. I would have no interest in Happ. He will not pitch in the playoffs, and I don’t think he’s better than what the Yankees can pull from their farm system.
Eileen is an idiot troll
Cessna is a good minor league pitcher .
An even better airplane!
Cessa pitched very well today. Not his fault they lost. Youre gonna have a thought time winning when the offense gives you 1 run
agreed !!!!
I say back with the Jays.
Seconded. Makes the most sense.
How can Toronto trade him to the Jays?
waz, lmao, I had to read that twice!!
Alternate Realities. -insert X-Files theme- The Yankees in an alternate universe will acquire J.A. Happ since Happ is retired prematurely in that universe. Once he’s done, he’ll be sent back to the Jays of this universe along with alternate reality prospects. It’s so crazy that…it’s crazy!!!
More like Sliders
True…I was just going with the conspiracy theorist vibe that the X-files theme gives off.
Dana Scully vs Wade Welles
That’s a tough call!
please not Milwaukee
Hmmm, pretty sure he’d instantly become the ace of the Brewers staff.
Lol Happ would be at worst the brewers 2nd best starter as someone who has watch every jays and brewers game except for last nights game which at pvr
Pretty sure they would probably throw him in as #4 behind Guerra, Chacin, and Anderson for the time being. With the injury news on Suter and Davies he would definitely make sense.
Happ is certainly better than Anderson
OMG brewer fans are ridiculous
His track record the past 3 years are stronger than every starting pitcher in the Brewers organization. Keep in mind he’s been playing in a big boy league, not the NL.
Happ would instantly be their ace. They have 3 #3s and 2 #4 pitchers.
Don’t worry, Milwaukee isn’t interested in giving up anything of value. Happ would be a huge upgrade for them, probably their ace, worst case #2. But they like sitting in their hands, he won’t go there
*on their hands
Ray_Derek why are you so obsessed with the Brewers? It’s like you’re sitting at your desk (pantless) waiting for a story to say the Brewers won’t make a trade (because they’re actually smart).
Who are these comments for? As a Brewers fan I find them pretty funny, mostly because you probably feel like you’re accomplishing something through them.
Brewers
Agree
No, they’d have to give someone up. They’ll sign Tillman instead.
Haha, you win today sir!
What source do people have for Brewers not wanting to trade anything? They traded for Yelich? It doesn’t take Hiura to get 2 months of JAHapp. Not to mention a history of trading for aces
Well, what in the world is Stearns waiting for? Did the fact that they were tied for the division lead a few days ago surprise them? Did they have a plan to contend next year first? They need starting pitching (deGrom) and a shortstop/2nd baseman who can get on base at a .350 clip or better. Get it done. Striking gold on all prospects is very rare. Hang on to Hiura and start dealing everyone else.
Well, 1st of all they’re certainly not getting deGrom without giving up Hiura and the rest of the top 5 in the system. The Crew give up prospects when it’s for controllable players.
all top 5? lol. good luck with that from any team
The Mets aren’t contending anytime soon. Two of the top five from the farm (Phillips, Ray -they need outfielders Cespedes…), add in Broxton, and maybe 2 pitchers from the top 10. That really doesn’t hurt the Crew that badly, but it sure helps the Mets. We get deGrom for a few years, which they need badly.
Jays trade Happ to Milwaukee for Herman Perez Twins trade Dozier to Milwaukee for 3 of their top prospects including Brett Phillips
Twins trade a prospect to Toronto to complete the 3 team trade. Obviously this is a joke. And I’m not serious. The best the brewers do is Asdrúbal Cabrera
Who is an upgrade for 3rd SS and 2nd.
A’s written all over the place….
I would say back to Pirates but they don’t carry a contender label
Won 11 in a row before today. I don’t think they’re up there with the elite teams- but they’re contenders enough to add.
Pitt needs 3 of 4 from the Mets the next 4 days.
Phillies
5.20 ERA last 7 starts. 4.18 ERA over 20 starts. 35 y.o rental.
What helps his trade value: 3.84 FIP, 3.62 xFIP, 10.69 K/9
What will the they get?!
Gotta impinge the Eovaldi deal set the market. So prolly someone like Jalen Beeks, a prospect outside the top 100 whose had some success in the minors.
Happ has been killed by the defence behind him in the last couple starts. He’s also been left in deep into games where no contending manager with any bullpen would leave him in the 8th inning or 7th for that matter.
His last start he threw 102 pitches over 5 innings, and 2 starts before that, he failed to make it to 4th. Happ’s gave up 27 runs in 31.1 innings last six GS. He got lucky Mookie’s Grand slam, all unearned.
How much worse would ERA be if 5 unearned runs Happ gave up against BOS, were all earned?
That’s the whole reason they’re unearned, because he should’ve been long out of the inning. Happ is rock solid and has been for years now. Not an ace but rock solid.
Agreed. It’s just unfortunate for Jays he seems to be crumbling at the worst possible time. But kudos trading him now, not risk getting less.
Well he wouldn’t have given up a grand slam if there wasn’t an error made….
Oakland A’s
Braves.
I doubt it’s the Phillies. I could be wrong but (I would think) they probably want to see how Suarez performs tomorrow.
Suarez is just a spot starter. It’s more likely that they’d bring up cole Irvin or roll with Enyel DLS than trade much for Happ.
I hope it’s not the mariners
Cubs. Baez isn’t in the lineup he’s going to Toronto. No but seriously it’s probably the Yankees
That’s not gonna happen. He has a sore knee anyway. It’s called a day off.
Shanghai Dragons or Hanshin Tigers
Wouldn’t mind seeing him on the A’s
he may literally deliver quality innings to whoever he goes to
And he may not, point?
Giants
Pittsburgh
Cowboys.
I don’t doubt it but I heard they are bringing in Herschel Walker and OJ Simpson for tryouts in case Elliott gets suspended again.
Maybe the Devil Rays?
I’m betting on the Expos.
Probably the A’s. He’s cheaper than Cole Hamels and they’ve been super aggressive adding Familia. Also, their rotation lacks experience.
Milwaukee makes perfect sense with Suter and Davies injuries
Yuuup.
I’d like him back where he had his greatest success in Pittsburgh. Try to resign him to a reasonable 2-3 year deal and then find a taker for Nova.
The Patriots?
Lakers
Warriors
Real Madrid
The cast of Hamilton
yanks pitchers are tired, they need to act now
severino needs a rest, cc is gonna have heat stroke
they both need 10 day fatigue dl rest
britton then happ, lefties back to back
Now Justreading. now this post gets an A Plus.
My thoughts exactly
I can see this being the A’s swooping in. They have tons of prospects they can part with without giving up the farm.
I say the Phillies would be the team. Maybe a package with Happ and Granderson. Happ and Donaldson if they got the prospects. Get some help on the left side of that infield. Either that or go after Happ. Then talk to Minnesota about getting Escobar.
I’ve always wondered how a team can “appear close” to trading someone. Do they have a tell like in poker? Did Atkins wipe away sweat from his forehead with his left hand when asked about Happ?
did kgb eat the oreo cookie like in rounders with matt damon?
Don’t splash the pot!
To Milwaukee for Burnes and Phillips
Fat chance of Burnes being traded for Happ. Stearns wouldn’t budge on giving him up for Machado
Just saw a note somewhere that Domingo Santana was pulled from a Triple A game and a separate one about something involving Clippard … so maybe a package deal of some kind with the Brewers?
He was taken out as part of a double switch, wouldn’t read too much into that but I guess you never know.
Ah, wonder why that note didn’t mention the double switch? But hey, it’s fun to try and put the pieces together yourself before the news gets released.
^^^^Agree. Just fun and games.
Colorado Springs made two double-switches. We shall see.
Happ to the Brewers makes a ton of sense of course it also makes sense for the Yankees. What do you think if Blue Jays look at the offers the same do the Yankees have to sweeten the pot to get him over the Brewers?
They should.
On a pure rental they shouldn’t really care about keeping him in the division. Will come down to the better prospect plain and simple.
Yankees send rest of farm? Nooooo, I like the new, younger, more athletic Yankees.
not gonna take the farm
then when the deadline passes they can
bring up Sheffield (didn’t want to take a
chance bringing him up for a start or two
n possibly losing some value if they decided
to make a major play) to further help the staff
looks like the Yanks might be leading the LEFTY LOTTO HERE
Not too sure how they are going to bring up Sheffield when he’s a member of the jays. You know the previous ask was Sheffield plus right? Jays have lowered their asking price so the plus will probably just be a lottery ticket.
they wanted a top 3, they couldn’t get that
so they are off that, its a 2 month rental
no way they would give up Sheffield for
Happ
we shall see… jays will demand a top 100 pitching prospect close to the majors . Yankees don’t have any other candidates that fit that. So its either Shefield or he’s headed elsewhere
I would let him go elsewhere. I’d rather have Sheffield than Happ.
a top 100 is a top 3 since there are 30
teams, they are not getting that for a
2 month rental of happ, I think that has
been made clear
depends on the team. tell me the last time that the top starter on the market at the trade deadline went for less than a single top 100 prospect
he is not really the top starter on the market though
the right offer opens up numerous possibilities
lol who is then?
archer, hammels wheeler, matz off the top off my head
and other high end pitchers which would take
shefield plus plus
whatever dude. None of those pitchers a rentals except for Hammels and its universally agreed that Happ has higher value than him (substantially higher salary for a worse pitcher)
just saying that I don’t believe they get a
top3/top100 prospect for happ
agree to disagree, guess we will see
if they trade shefield for happ I will not
like it but I will say I was wrong
(rather even have harvey – just need
to give the starters some rest in august)
I don’t think any team will give them a top 100 starting pitching prospect., not just the Yanks. Let’s keep in mind we’re talking about a #3/#4 starter 2 month rental who’s pitching like a #5 of late.
You wait and see. He’s easily a 3 and was pitching like a 2 until 3 bad starts in a row. Righted the ship in his last start tho.
The only possible scenario where I see the Blue Jays getting a top 100 prospect for 2 months of Happ, is if the Blue Jays way 95%+ of what he’s owed for the remainder of the season. He’s not worth a top 100 prospect, especially as a rental. Machado is a much better player and also a rental, and the package the Dodgers sent to the Orioles was headlined by the #86 overall prospect.
If the Blue Jays eat 95%+*.. sometimes I wonder how these autocorrects work hahahaha. And even at that point, I really don’t see that happening.
jays are in the 4th inning
game is on mlbn
guess we gotta wait another hour and a half
Milwaukee should trade Domingo Santana for him. He’s being wasted in the minors
It’s amazing how many people are hoping he’s NOT traded to their team. You all realize he’s an upgrade in your rotation unless you’re the Astros, right?
and a lefty
bring your kids up to throw lefty
JD,
right you are!
It surprises me too. Not spectacular, but solid. Playoff experience. Been traded and played for many teams, so I wouldn’t sweat his mindset… Hate to say it, but I’d take him over Hamels easily. Eovaldi, Happ, Ross, Hamels rental preference order if I’m a contender, considering acquisition cost and contract.
He’s an upgrade to the end of our rotation. He would slot in behind Sev, Tanaka and CC. So he should be valued for what he is and his most recent performance seeing as how he’s a 2 month rental.
He’s much better than Tanaka. Both counting stats and analytics back it up.
Unreal how bad the SP market is this year Thor & DeGrom teases and the Usual Archer nonsense. I think if the Yankees don’t get Happ I think they are gonna panic and blow somebody away they got the prospects to do it
I wonder what it would take to get deGrom?
Frazier/Sheff/Florial ?
Frazier would still be a top 50 guy if he hadn’t been called up. Sheff and Florial both are top 75 prospects and the Yanks #1 and #@.
That would be a tough package for the Yanks to give up but tolerable? Our system is kind of weak in AA/AAA guys. Very deep below AA tho.
the problem is the mets do not have a
general manager who has the authority
to make that kind of trade. that will probably
be done in the winter if they can get some
semblance of direction
I agree I don’t think the current leaders of the Mets have the authority to trade Thor or DeGrom. Those guys won’t be traded until the offseason when there is someone in charge. I’m guessing just the non controlled pieces like Familia are the parts moves until the offseason.
A deal like that would have to be signed off on by the Wilpons, GM or no GM. If the Yankees come calling with an offer like that, I think it gets Jeffy-boy on the phone personally.
Guys I’m sure business doesn’t stop because there’s no GM. Isn’t that why there’s an assistant GM? I mean, he could still take it to the owners if need be.
The cubs have lost out on other players that didn’t make alot of sense but do now will they get Anyone?? U can’t win in playoffs with one starter essentially that’s what they have now.
don’t follow that closely but theo has been
real quiet?
He only made one trade thus far. Jesse Chavez. He only pitched once so far. He did good though.
Theo is always sneaky though. The trade for Quintana came out of nowhere. I have a feeling he’ll make a big splash by or before Monday.
Maybe not deGrom or Syndangaard but something like that.
gotta believe he has something in
his bag of tricks, can’t go into the
playoffs like this?
They need a reliever and maybe a starter like ja happ
Smart gangsters never let you know their next move. The Chavez trade looks brilliant.
Kid looks confident and has pitched extremely well on the Cubs. He’s also a reliever and a starter.
My guess is we’ll be seeing him a whoooooooole lot in the playoffs.
You’re really drinking that Kool aid. “Kid” is probably not the best term for a 34 yo journeyman.
Chavez has pitched a few times for the Cubs already and has yet to give up a hit or a walk.
Does 4 innings even count as a sample size?
It does if that is all you have.
Fortunately Jesse Chavez has many major league innings from which to draw evaluations from.
He was originally drafted by them. Never played for them. As he elected to go to school. Instead of signing with them. Later was drafted again drafted to the rangers. So to say the least he’s come full circle. 10 teams in 10 years. Which includes two stints with the blue Jays.
Phillies should be in on this and then push one of the younger starters to the pen. I think Milwaukee will pay a better price though.
When he gets traded, we can all cry, “Happ Happ hooray!”
you are right – every site had him traded 8 hours ago
yanks want to make the back page tomm, if their are any
newspapers still in circulation
Who knows what will happen. Ian Happ happens to be trade bait. JA Happ happens to be who the Cubs happen to need. Happ for Happ would bring both clubs happiness. Cubs should hop on Happ. I hope it happens
I do t see that Happening
I’d love that trade. I’d had to see the Jay’s end up hapless
That makes me happy
Happ for Happ. I wouldn’t do that for one reason. Ian Happ has 4 years of control. JA Happ is a rental. Maybe Ian Happ for Marcus Stroman. Definitely not happ for happ thats just not smart.
Happ to the Pirates for Adrian Sampson.
That’s what it cost Pittsburgh back in 2015. They were the only team to even call the Mariners about him.
A few years and over $30 million in his bank account later, he’s the top rental starter available. It’s amazing how crossing paths with the right coach can change a player’s life.
I don’t want Happ on my team
Well then don’t draft him on your fantasy team. I say that assuming you are not the online alter ego of Hank Steinbrenner,
Why in the world would they want Drury? We already have Travis, Gurriel Jr, Diaz, Tulo, Solarte, Donaldson and about a billion SS prospects
Exactly. Also, they have Vlad Jr., Bichette, Biggio and Smith in the minors. They got a middle infield prospect for Pearce & are apparently gettiing 2 first basemen for Oh. There isn’t a need for Drury anywhere
Why on earth do the Blue Jays want Drury? The one thing they don’t need is another infielder. Their top prospects are infielders. They have Gurriel already in the majors. Guerrero Jr. & Bichette are coming soon. The Jays also have Smith & Biggio in the minors. They just traded for at least one first base prospect, maybe two. They got a infield prospect for Steve Pearce. They also still have Travis & Diaz in the majors. Solarte is still on the roster as of now (he could be traded). Donaldson will be back soon & he isn’t going anywhere as of now because he hasn’t played. Where does Drury fit? It seems like a bad fit
Someone has to be offering up a prospect more valuable than Drury. That would be a weak return.
Weak return for 2 months of Happ?! Really? Four years of Drury for two months of Happ is a weak return?
I can’t blame you because it seems most people on here think like that. It’s incredible to me that is the case, however.
I’d be looking for something more interesting than Brandon Drury certainly.
Exactly, they need arms and corner outfielders. Everywhere else is set
The same reason Cashman liked Drury to acquire him. But, if it’s Drury and a young pitching prospect I’d be ok with it so long as Solarte and Travis are traded.
Ok good luck with hamels then. I agree Frazier and Sheffield is too high but c prospects is nuts. happ would likely be #3 on NY unless you truly trust Gray and Sabathia now.
you really need 3 in playoffs but obviously
wildcard hinders that
severino, tanaka, cc would be fine if you
could get cc and severino some 10 day dl
fatigue stints in august after the sox series
and have a happ available against sox thru
august and as a #4 in sept and as needed
in October
with that said I wouldn’t give up shefield for
2 months of happ
I know people think Drury is devalued right now, but no friggin way is two months of Happ worth 4+ years of Drury. Not in any universe.
I think I would give them drury
he is almost superflous
see the years of control is great but he has been hurt this year and when he has played has looked terrible. This is Frazier issue as well. people talk about him as the prospect he was but he hasn’t played well at the major league level and is barely playing this year. prospects are great but these are two guys the yanks are devaluing. drury could easily be the next refsnyder
Happ is a rental.
Say what you want, he could be the difference maker.
Many don’t realize: Since a visit to The Pitcher Whisperer in Pittsburgh back in ’15, in 88 starts, his team’s w-l is 55-33. On a team that could only be called “good” a month or two at a time….
The team he goes to will get, what, maybe 10 starts out of him. A better team, it wouldn’t surprise me to see that team go 7-3 or 8-2 in those games.
Kodion,
ABSOLUTELY KUDOS TO THIS POST!! LOVE IT
Is Marcus stroman controllable? I’ll take him over ja happ
Lol he’s got a lot of baggage. Doubt he’d be able to handle the media attention….though he seems to love attention.
Chicago wouldn’t nearly be as bad a New York or Boston or even LA or Anaheim.
My bad. After all the yankee fan comments I assumed you were a NYY fan. He’d probably do well somewhere like Chicago or STL. Def not NYY or BOS
Crazy thought. Houston could be in on Happ for lefty dominant bullpen help, ala Liriano 2017.
that is crazy. liriano was clearly a better pitcher out of the pen and had control issues throughout his career which lends better to a short role. happ has proven he can be dominant most nights but does have a clunker occasionally. I think the brewers make the most sense. the yanks likely see happ as a decent option but better for how he has pitched vs Boston for his career.
I would rather the Yankees stand pat then get Happ. I know that’s probably not going to happen. But I’m not a big fan of Happ. I would rather have Hamels on the rental side. Either way I think they get Patrick Corbin in free agency this offseason
Why would you rather have hamels? have you seen him pitch the last 2-3 years? hamels isn’t even an upgrade over gray.
Hamels is toast, lol