Some news from around the AL West, as the division heads into the All-Star break with four teams over the .500 mark…
- There was some buzz last month about the Mariners discussing a trade for Cole Hamels, though the Seattle Times’ Ryan Divish hears that the Mariners’ “interest was greatly overplayed.” Whatever talks the M’s and Rangers had about Hamels could have been simply due diligence on the part of Seattle GM Jerry Dipoto, who “checks in on every player and will never toss away any proposal immediately.”
- The Mariners’ general need for pitching is further explored by Divish as part of his mailbag piece, as he isn’t sure Seattle will necessarily target a starter. For one, a clear top-of-the-rotation arm may not be available. The team’s search for such a pitcher is further complicated by the fact that some members of Mariners ownership and the upper-level management team aren’t keen on acquiring players who are only under contract for the rest of this season (i.e. Hamels or J.A. Happ, another pitcher linked to Seattle on the rumor mill.) It should be noted that Hamels is technically under control for 2019 via a club option, though at a steep cost of $20MM. As for a more controllable arm on a frequent Mariners trade partner, Divish doesn’t believe the M’s have the prospect depth to obtain Chris Archer from the Rays.
- The Angels have been getting calls about such relievers as Blake Parker, Cam Bedrosian, and Justin Anderson, Ken Rosenthal reports in a video update for FOXSports.com. All three right-handers have pitched well this season, with Parker stepping up as Anaheim’s first choice at closer in the wake of Keynan Middleton’s Tommy John surgery. Rosenthal suggests the Angels will be open to selling high on these arms due to the “volatile” nature of relief pitchers on a year-to-year basis, though obviously L.A. would want a decent return since all three come with multiple years of control.
- With the Athletics positioned to make additions at the trade deadline, the San Francisco Chronicle’s Susan Slusser figures the team will look to add pitching in some form. Though the rotation is Oakland’s biggest need, Slusser suggests the A’s could “get creative” by bolstering its already-solid relief corps, which would allow the starters to make shorter outings before turning things over to the bullpen. If the A’s do pursue a starter, it will be a mid-tier arm rather than a frontline ace — Slusser suggests the Twins’ Jake Odorizzi or Lance Lynn as the types of starters Oakland would look at obtaining, though there isn’t any indication that the A’s have specific interest in either of those Minnesota pitchers.
justin-turner overdrive
Slusser is usually way off with her rosterbation / “insider” knowledge, Beane makes bold moves, and never gets Lynn or Odorizzi types unless they’re free or off waiver claims. Anyone who’s not trying to offend her employers can totally see the A’s getting deGrom or Syndergaard at the deadline, but I personally really hope they move on from Lucroy and get Realmuto at no matter the cost. Having the best C in MLB will really take this team to the next level no matter who’s pitching, and his bat currently speaks to a .904 OPS so he’d be hitting in the top 3 maybe even leadoff.
jorge78
“Rosterbation?” Really dude, what are you 15? Or a frat boy. That’s just punk and noclass and uncalled for. You should apologize. Oh, and get some help please before you hurt someone or others…..
jleve618
Didn’t seem that offensive to me. I thought it was silly, almost funny.
#Fantasygeekland
It was disrespectful and childish
cmancoley
awh did your politically correct feelings get hurt?
kenneth cole
Yeah how dare you not be a progressive politically correct liberal.., you might hurt somebody’s feelings
#Fantasygeekland
There’s a difference between being politically correct and insulting another human being- whether you will admit it or not
HalosHeavenJJ
I’ve seen that term on many sites for many years.
I don’t I like it, but I highly doubt it was used with malice intent.
justin-turner overdrive
Exactly. It’s a really common phrase??? jorge78 and baseballnerdom are the ones being way out of pocket here.
justin-turner overdrive
That’s not an insult by any manner, its an actual word you’d know about if you followed baseball online in the last 10 years.
So, I’ll take that apology any time you want to give it, being that your ignorance just insulted me, a human being.
#Fantasygeekland
Not exactly sure why you felt like you needed to use the word “rosterbation” when referring to a female reporter who is speculating about possible trade candidates…
Eddy Treadway
Seems like the only ones bringing the gender into this are those complaining about it. It’s just a dumb term used without any actual sexual conitation to it directed at females or males
justin-turner overdrive
It’s a fairly commonly used term thats been around for at least a decade, it refers to personal preferences to changing the roster, I have absolutely no idea why you’re so upset about it. Grow up.
encorian
Interesting proposition. I was thinking of Realmuto to A’s before Lucroy surprisingly came over. It’s almost like the “bolster the already strong bullpen” argument. A’s offense is one of the best from top to bottom (especially when Canha starts in CF). Why not make it even more daunting? Not to discredit Lucroy, who had to learn the A’s ever-changing pitching staff on the fly, but two-way catchers are hard to come by.
Semien SS
Lowrie 2B
Realmuto C
Davis DH
Olson 1B
Piscotty RF
Canha LF
Chapman 3B
BOOOOOOG CF (bring him back up!)
Oh yyeah! OOOOOOOHHHHH YYYYYEEEEEAAHHHH!!
jorge78
And stop taking BTO’s name in vain…..
BalcoBomber
Hey, Justin is just taking care of business.
justin-turner overdrive
At least you get it and aren’t accusing me of being a Dodgers homer like so many other peabrains in these peanut galleries do.
#Fantasygeekland
Grow up dude, she’s the reporter and your opinions don’t get past the comment section for a reason. It doesn’t claim to be insider knowledge, it’s just speculating about who potential deadline trade targets could be when there has been no news about who the A’s are targeting. You really didn’t need to say that.
Travis’ Wood
You’re the one who’s way off if you think the A’s are gonna sell the farm for deGrom/Syndergaard/Realmuto just for a one game playoff game against Sale or Severino. That is completely asinine. They will do something along the lines of what Slusser suggests: upgrading the pen or stabilizing the rotation. Anyone with a brain can see that.
rycm131
Don’t count them out to trade for Rajai Davis or sign Adam Rosales
justin-turner overdrive
Except they won’t, they traded Cespedes for Lester, remember??
Slusser is so pro-A’s front office she’s probably helping them create smokescreens for a massive move like that. She’s a fine reporter otherwise, but her trade ideas are literally never on point. Hmm wonder why…
hartattax
Dude, you need to know what your talking about before you say it. First of all the A’s don’t make moves like that to get a superstar like DeGrom or Syndergaard and the A’s have Sean Murphy coming. up next year and scouts have said he could be there next franchise guy.
#Fantasygeekland
Exactly, that’s why you get a rental like Ramos if you make a move at catcher.
justin-turner overdrive
Jon Lester is starting the ASG this year, that’s a deadline guy they got last time they contended….but I guess you weren’t following baseball in 2014, huh?
WhiteElephant89
That was a completely different situation, at that time their playoff window was closing so they had to go for it. Donaldson and Cespedes we’re going to be too expensive so a go for it move was made. The team now is just getting started with young players, they aren’t even suppose to be in contention yet. There is absolutely no chance they sell off have their farm system for a Degrom or other rental ace.
jbigz12
How you getting degrom? With Barretto and Mateo? That offer will get smoked by another club.
#Fantasygeekland
Luzardo and Murphy
jbigz12
All four? That’s what it’ll take to beat another teams offer.
AsNchill
If I’m the A’s Luzardo and Murphy are untouchable. As is Puk. Getting deGrom to build around nothing is dumb.
justin-turner overdrive
“Build around nothing”??? They literally are the hottest team in MLB right now and beat up on Boston at Fenway. How DARE you call Chapman, Olson, etc etc etc “nothing” – dumbest thing said in this thread full of really dumb things.
justin-turner overdrive
Get deGrom by taking on Cespedes’s contract and lessening the prospect return. Cheapo Mets will do this.
jbigz12
If the Mets will do that then there’s a chance you can get Syndergaard. I can’t imagine they’d do that with Degrom or Syndergaard for that matter. The A’s arent exactly a team who can just absorb bad money either. You add Cespedes and you’re strapped for cash.
AsNchill
I meant the pitching corps, calm down. The only guy considered a part of the A’s future in the rotation is Manaea. So then what, we roll out a rotation of deGrom, Manaea and Mengden? That’s not a championship caliber rotation.
If we already had Manaea, Puk and Luzardo up I’d agree with looking to trade anyone else for deGrom, but we don’t have those things right now. We literally have a single guy in the rotation that is part of our future.
Bruin1012
Well splitting with Boston at Fenway isn’t exactly “ beating up on Boston at Fenway” but the A’s are playing good baseball. I could easily see the A’s going out and making a move at the deadline.
CCCTL
A’s took 2 of 3 at both Coliseum and Fenway, hardly a “split”.
The A’s owned the Red Sox this year.
Bruin1012
Sorry my apologies to Justin Turner Overdrive and A’s fans you are right 2 of 3 both places. The Red Sox have always seemed to have trouble with the A’s for as long as I can remember.
aussiegiants53
The M’s interested in the Shark? Yep sweet, we will send him over right away… no? Haha
SeattleSlew
No thank you; however Ervin Santana (great rehab outing today) or Danny Duffy would be nice!!
zoinksscoob
YES… was thinking exactly the same thing! Both can be under control for next year (and in Duffy’s case, even beyond.) Santana can be kept with a team option at $14MM next year or let go with a $1MM buyout; so if the M’s acquired him without taking any money from the Twins, it would be a $6.4MM commitment, with basically signing Santana for $13MM for 2019 if he does well. For Duffy, he’s under contract through 2021 (roughly $5.6MM for the rest of this year, $15.25MM/year for ’19 and ’20, $15.5MM in ’21), so the Royals would have to throw in some $$$ to pay it down to a reasonable level, but that could happen.
The other pitcher under a long-term contract the M’s could consider is Jordan Zimmermann, who appears to be closer to his Washington Nationals form recently. He’s owed about $9.6MM for the rest of this year, and then $25MM/year for ’19 and ’20. Detroit would probably have to subsidize half of that to move him, but that would make him attractive.
bradthebluefish
I like the creative thinking. All three options sound good for the M’s, especially given their below average farm. (Personally, I think their farm is fine, it’s just young)
kenneth cole
I know this doesn’t apply to this division but what would it take for Cleveland to land Zach Britton? Their bullpen outside of Perez, Miller, and Allen is highly inconsistent and if they wanna go far this postseason they may wanna roll the dice on Britton.
Hand would be a lot more expensive from my outlook on things
angelsfan4life
The Angels would be stupid to trade Anderson.
cmancoley
I agree. Although I do think that it would be smart to trade Blake Parker while his stock is pretty high. Justin Anderson’s still has a ton of potential to build value before moving him. As for Bedrosian, I’m ready to move on from him as soon as possible. It just seems like he always fumbles whenever we need him most, but then goes on to throw 2 no hit innings when we’re down by 5+ runs
cakirby
It’s possible they might see him as a Mike Morin type, that once hitters have enough data and everything on him, he’ll get hit around a bit. If that’s the case, it would be wise to trade him now.
SashaBanksFan
I agree. Trade bedrosian and parker, keep anderson and test him as closer. See if it works out. Relievers are too unpredictable. Get something while you can. Hold onto Heaney and Skaggs unless you get a really good haul in return.
Go Angels
I would be fine with the Angels trading Bedrosian, but not Parker or Anderson. Parker and Anderson have been reliable, but Bedrosian has been wild. He’ll throw ten consecutive scoreless innings and then allow four runs in his next two innings.
And it’s not like the Angels’ season is over.
On August 2nd, 1995, the Seattle Mariners had a record of 43-46 and trailed the California Angels in the AL West by 13 games. Yet they ended up winning the division (in a tiebreaker game), finishing at 79-66.
On September 4th, 2011, the Tampa Bay Rays trailed the Boston Red Sox by nine games for the then-only wild card spot but came back to make the postseason.
Also in 2011, the St. Louis Cardinals trailed the Atlanta Braves in the wild card race by 8.5 games on September 6th, yet came back to win the World Series that year.
We’re just at the AS break and the Angels are down nine in the WC race. Seattle is just 2-7 in their last nine. An Angels’ comeback is, albeit improbable, not out of the question, and there’s no reason to trade away young talent (Parker, Anderson, Heaney, Skaggs).
skrockij89
M’s better do something quick before they completely fall out of the WC race. They need a SP and a bat.
mmarinersfan
Where would the bat play? Cano coming back already causes a headache in the infield, and our OF rotation is doing it’s job. Well except Heredia, then the bat would need to be a CF.
Double A
Nobody said a starting position player cant get traded. LF, Cf even 1st base can all be upgraded. Dee gets a past due to chemistry.
mmarinersfan
CF definitely could. But Span has done great (well, offensively) in LF since the trade, and I was thinking Lucas Duda to platoon with Healy, but, like I said, the Cano situation would cause a serious headache there.
RootedInOakland
Love Susan but screw those Twins pitchers, lets bring Tyson back home where he belongs
shanedelreal12
Hes not that good and a constant injury risk. We got that covered.
jbigz12
Ross is probably the best out of the three. Though that isn’t saying a whole hell of a lot.
Little Whirl
I agree, and I think the fact that he’s only signed through the end of this year is something of a feather in his cap, considering his injury history.
erauber
Either pitcher would be an improvement for the A’s. Realmuto at best, but if the cost is too high….probably the best move, is to stand pat.
erauber
Not be and improvement…. late night texting…
mohoney
I think James Shields would be a nice acquisition for the A’s. Shields is a guy who goes deep into his starts every fifth day, his problems with the long ball would be mitigated by the park, and the cost would be bare-minimum in terms of prospect capital. Between the money San Diego is paying and the money the White Sox likely would pay, the salary cost wouldn’t be ridiculous, either.
TreinenWin
Here’s a thought! The A’s are going to be looking for a starting pitcher come time for the Winter Meetings anyways and cannot afford 15-20 mil a year. Why not lock in an Ace SP NOW such as Degrom with 2 years of control and a shot at this season. He is young and controllable and is NOT a rental. Sure, you will have to give up strong prospects, but our farm system is pretty deep anyway. You can still keep Luzardo, Puk, Murphy, etc. to build for the future. A mid-tier pitcher is nothing better than we already have! What’s wrong with making a REAL move now. The A’s are right in this!
Angelfanforlife19
You know where this is going right the Phillies are serious about winning and they want the hometown kid in trout. They want to show him how serious they are.