June 7: The Yankees announced that Montgomery underwent Tommy John surgery today, adding that Dr. Christopher Ahmad also discovered a loose bone chip that was removed as well.
June 5: Yankees left-hander Jordan Montgomery, who has been on the 10-day disabled list with an elbow strain for a bit more than a month, will undergo Tommy John surgery on Thursday this week, the team announced to reporters (Twitter link via MLB.com’s Bryan Hoch).
Obviously, the news comes as a blow to a Yankees club that was already likely to be in the market for rotation help on the summer trade market. With Montgomery now out of action for the balance of the 2018 season and a significant portion of the 2019 season as well, that need will only be emphasized more strongly by general manager Brian Cashman and his staff.
[Related: New York Yankees depth chart]
The 25-year-old Montgomery entered Spring Training 2017 as a dark-horse candidate for a rotation spot but forced his way into the organization’s plans and appeared to seize a long-term rotation spot with a very strong rookie showing. In 155 1/3 innings last year (29 starts), Montgomery notched a 3.82 ERA with 8.3 K/9 against 3.0 BB/9 and 1.2 HR/9. He started six games for the Yankees in 2018, working to a 3.62 ERA in 27 1/3 innings, though his final outing lasted just one inning, and he’s been on the DL since.
Montgomery will still accrue service time in both 2018 and 2019 as he mends on the 60-day disabled list. By the time he’s likely to be healthy enough for a full season of work in the rotation (2020), he’ll quite likely have gone through the arbitration process for the first time as a Super Two player. Montgomery entered the season with 153 days of Major League service time, so he’ll be at two years, 153 days once the 2019 season wraps up. That makes him a virtual lock for Super Two designation, and he’ll be controllable for the Yankees all the way through the 2023 campaign.
With Montgomery now done for the year, the Yankees will continue to lean on Domingo German in the fifth spot of their rotation for the foreseeable future. He’ll fall in line behind Luis Severino, Masahiro Tanaka, Sonny Gray and CC Sabathia, though it’s possible that the Yankees will ultimately turn to another option in the five-spot — at least until a presumptive trade acquisition comes together.
German, 25, threw six no-hit innings in his first MLB start back on May 6, but he’s been rocked for 19 earned runs in 21 innings since that time. Top pitching prospect Chance Adams has struggled with the Yankees’ top affiliate this season, though lefty Justus Sheffield has been more impressive and could conceivably earn a look in the coming weeks as the Yankees plot a new trajectory in the wake of Montgomery’s unfortunate diagnosis.
Arodsneedle
Rip
Christian Larsen
Hamels!
walls17
Oh no
srechter
Well, damnit all to hell. That’s a massive bummer. The search for a more permanent rotation option must begin right now.
sam1897
Yankees are waiting for Happ to become available
deweybelongsinthehall
Do you really see Toronto trading within the division? Not likely to happen unless the Yankees offer considerably more than someone else
nymetsking
because Happ would haunt them for years to come?
sam1897
Yes I do see Toronto trading inside the division, and he is 35 year old free agent at the end of the year, his is that haunting them.
its_happening
Happ should be 100% available, but I don’t think the Jays agree. Also don’t see a trade within the division even though the Jays should be considering it.
thegreatcerealfamine
If they want win then..HELL NO.
jdgoat
What are you taking about Cereal? Happ would be their third best pitcher, debatably second best.
jbigz12
He’d replace Montgomery but Happ isn’t the rotation upgrade that is going to separate them.
srechter
This will never be read, but, Sam, you are fully vindicated my friend.
brucewayne
Do the Marlins have any pitching they would trade ?
davidcoonce74
Dan Straily is probably the best, but not really a difference maker.
Supilikethat
We need Bumgarner now
sam1897
SF will never trade Bumgardner, not going to happen
MB923
Is it because he’s arguably the face of the franchise? People said the same thing about Detroit and Verlander, and then he got traded.
I don’t expect SF to do it though because they could still contend in the NL West’s
southbeachbully
So to replace our young starter who’s out with an injury you want us to trade prospects for an older pitcher who has been on the DL since last year?
I’m good.
Let’s keep rolling with German and see what happens in the next few weeks.
thegreatcerealfamine
You’re kidding I hope…
sam1897
Not arguably, He is the face of the franchise. I live in Sacramento, trust me its Warriors, then Bumgarner, then Posey, then the 49ers all day long here.
thegreatcerealfamine
I was responding to Southbeach
davidcoonce74
I think Posey and Bumgarner are Giants for life – Bumgarner’s on an affordable contract and the team is still hoping to contend – they wouldn’t have gone after Longoria etc. this off-season. As long as SF plays in their cash-cow home park, they’ll probably never rebuild.
Selkies
Yeah, people are kinda slow on the Jimmy Garoppolo/49ers uprising thing. I live in Northern Nevada and any SF club is basically the hometown team.
It’s strange how much Giants fans *still* love Pablo Sandoval.
Tiger_diesel92
Rip. There goes this season and next. Kid have potential.
xabial
No Monty 🙁
Chris
Damnnnnnn…. thought he was close to returning. The Yankees needed rotation help even if he came back. Unfortunately Hamels has been way too HR prone, Archer has sucked, and I don’t see the Giants trading MadBum like ever. Maybe an awesome prospect on top of a great package can intrigue the Mets for one of their studs
virginiascopist
Fulmer from the Tigers?
Begamin
Im wary of Fulmer given his meh numbers and his mechanics. He whips his shoulder around and has gotten on the DL for it already. Id rather get someone else unless he is cheap
sam1897
my thought was to call the Rays and see if you can swing something for Snell, it will cost alot but they are YEARS away from making a serious run
Chris
Snell is probably better but I think Fulmer would be easier to acquire given his down year.
thegreatcerealfamine
The Rays are not trading Snell.
Priggs89
And do you intend on giving up Gleyber? Becuase that’s about the only way you’re going to get Blake Snell.
The kid is only 25 years old and looks like one of the best pitchers in baseball this year. He’s not even eligible for free agency until like 2023. He’s not going anywhere anytime soon.
TapDancingTeddy
I doubt the Rays would trade Snell, but they probably should. The Yanks have both pitching and hitting prospects to give them and Tampa is very, very far from contending with no hope of FA quick fixes.
However, there is organizational pride and not wanting to trade in the division, and sometimes these things override logic.
jbigz12
and Blake Snell is controllable til 2023. He doesn’t fit their contention window? You have to keep some young players that actually pan out. Why in the world would you trade a proven young commodity for other non proven young commodities that you could control fotr what? one more year? Makes zero sense for them to trade Snell. Archer, sure. Snell, no way.
MetsYankeesRedSox
Bartolo Colon
deweybelongsinthehall
LOL. He could simply use C.C ‘ jersey…
thegreatcerealfamine
Back from whence you came troll!
kimball0401
Justus Sheffield, COME ON DOWN!!
sam1897
too young, not ready, he will be rushed. He is also pitching only about 4 innings a game in AAA. Not the answer right now
srechter
He’s had both injury and performance concerns to this point. Reports are that his command is still incredibly spotty, and his walk rates support that. I agree that he’s not the answer at this point. A guy like Trevor Stephan might be more realistic.
sam1897
Stephan got ruffed up last start. I hate to say but the rotation answer is not currently on the roster. The only kid in position to help is German and even he is too inconsistent.
TooTall
Not saying Stephan is the answer, but last outing was (5.2IP, 2H, 0ER, 1BB, 7K).. He goes again tomorrow. Rough first outing in Trenton (4.1IP, 9H, 6ER, 2BB, 5K) but the bounce back was good. Made it to Trenton with less than 80 career innings and in his first full season of pro ball?
southbeachbully
There’s no need to call anyone up right now. We have German. His outings have not been as bad as the results might indicate.
sam1897
Agreed, its going to be Germain probably to the trading deadline. Just hope that Grey does what Tanaka did last year. Really unless their isn’t a blockbuster involving somebody else young pitcher, is their anybody too include Hamels that will make that big of a difference for the Yankees in September and October.
xabial
Worth noting, although his replacement, German (0-4) doesn’t get run support —giving up 19 ER last 21 IP (4 starts) raising his ERA to 5.44. (4.40 FIP, 4.14 xFIP)
Yeah, Yankees need SP, but I like German.
thegreatcerealfamine
Like him for a role back in the BP. This sucks cause Adams has seriously regressed. I watched Sheffield pitch against the Indianapolis Indians Saturday and he gave up a five spot in the first, but he settled down for 4 scoreless..alas he’s not ready though. Wouldn’t degrom fit, but such a pipe dream.
xabial
Jon Mororsi tweets:
“Yankees are well positioned to add a starting pitcher, after news that Jordan Montgomery will have Tommy John surgery. They can add at least $12 million in salary obligations for 2018 (by AAV) and still avoid paying the luxury tax.”
Something to keep in mind for prospective NYY SP trade-targets. twitter.com/jonmorosi/status/1004096959114874880?s…
deweybelongsinthehall
The price for whomever Cash wants goes up with each injury.
Begamin
German has the stuff, but he is a bit wild. Reminds me of an early Severino in that sense.
TapDancingTeddy
Quite true about the Severino similarity. They’re both 3 pitch pitchers with FB, Slider and Change. However, Severino’s FB is better and his command pretty good. German’s secondary pitches seem to move more, but he has a bit less FB velocity. Nevertheless, fix the command issue (mainly FB command) and I think he’d be very good.
driftcat28 2
Damn that sucks. In Retrospect he probably should’ve had the surgery after the injury occurred. Would’ve already been a month into recovery. This doesn’t change anything though, that Yanks were already in the market for a pith e for two. I can see them dealing for one pitcher and then giving Sheffield the other spot if they deem it necessary.
I really liked Monty, I hope he recovers and comes back strong!
gleybertorres25
Yankees get: LHP Patrick Corbin, RHP Archie Bradley
DBacks get: RHPs Chance Adams and Luis Medina, LHP Josh Rogers, INF Thairo Estrada, OF Clint Frazier
sam1897
That not happening, but Yankees do get Corbin as a free agent next year. And do even talk deGrom. Absolutely no way in hell the Mets make that trade eve. with Torres included.
Cat Mando
gleybertorres25…….In what universe would a contending team with injuries to their own pitching staff do that trade?
Bocephus
I hope he’s really not trying to be serious.
Cat Mando
I hope he’s not serious too, but he is not the first I have seen on these board suggest that the D-backs should and would trade Corbin
gleybertorres25
DBacks will continue going down hill and realize they should trade Corbin before free agency. The addition of my proposed trade will incentivize them to add Bradley. All the prospect in the proposed deal are or are close to MLB ready
Cat Mando
gleybertorres25….Well then, by all means, you should log off right now and get on the phone with Cash and Hazen. You can act as middleman and I am sure one or the other will have a job for you in the FO. /s
thegreatcerealfamine
Please dude just quit…
RedKing22
No way in hell Arizona makes that trade. Sure we’ve been slumping but Ray, Miller, and Walker are all hurt so the answer is to… trade our best starter? I get that he’s probably not coming back but come on man. Plus, since when are Medina, Rogers, and Adams close to, if not MLB-ready?
Judge Judy
Hate to see it. Nobody wants to see a young Ace lost to TJ. See you at he front of the rotation in 2020.
gleybertorres25
There wasn’t a young ace lost to TJ
xabial
It’s painfully obvious you’re trying to troll. I lost because took the bait, but guy will be out this year probly next. Try to show some class. I’ve never seen NYY fan call him an “Ace.” Nobody calls him “Young ace.” He was coming on his own, and his biggest issue (was) going deep into games but he was serviceable. “Young ace” is a word pple who don’t follow baseball, or trolls, use, to describe Monty, who was the Yankees’ 5th starter.
mike156
Yankees are winning 2/3 of the games, without Montgomery. They are a younger, exciting team because of the prospects they kept and the ones they traded for. They have executed (so far) on a plan to get below the CBT. Don’t mess up by selling the farm to get a 34 year old with a big contract, or by doing anything rash.
mike156
Amazing this post has managed so many down votes. Tough neighborhood.
Begamin
Yankees are fine with the pitching staff they have concerning the regular season. However, the need about one more arm to seal off the playoffs.
Im with you about the youth movement being the way to go. Thing is, im sure they can get a decent SP without giving up the packages that the geniuses on here suggest. I see a lot of king ransoms for starting pitchers with an ERA around 3.50
Cole Hamels should not cost a lot in terms of prospects considering his salary size, age, and the fact that the Rangers are not in contention. That would be something I would be OK with. However, i dont want Frazier, Sheffield, or Andujar to be touched (and Gleyber ofc, but i shouldnt even have to mention that)
dobsonel
THIS!
gleybertorres25
Yankees get: RHP Tyson Ross, LHP Brad Hand
Padres get: OF Clint Frazier, RHP Freicer Perez, INF Abiatel Avelino
RedKing22
This is almost as bad as your aforementioned Corbin to NYY trade…
thegreatcerealfamine
Did you just create this account today for things like these posts?
Cat Mando
All we need now is the guy who used to propose 15-20 player trades.
jdgoat
Lmao totally forgot about that.
Yankees get Hand, Yates, Stammen, Pirela, Ross, Jankowski, Lamet, Perdomo, and Myers
Padres get Frazier, Andujar, Sheffield, Estrada, Austin, Kahnle, Florial, Acevedo, Adams, Schmidt, and Medina
Cat Mando
LOL…that’s close. One of my favorites of his (I forget the teams and names) was a three team trade that involved 33 players, I counted them.
sam1897
Yeah, just another not a chance in hell that trade is happening. But I would discount just Ross going to the Yankees. San Diego wanted the moon last year for Hand and with the contract extension he just signed, that price only goes higher. And if your san diego, why in the hell do you trade for a young pitcher in Perez that has 28 hits and 19 walks in 25 innings and is currently on the disabled list.
dobsonel
Yankees are not trading Frazier for a rental.
gleybertorres25
If it’s just Ross, Frazier wouldn’t be invluded, but Hand isn’t just a rental
dobsonel
I didn’t really see that Hand was mentioned, I was more commenting on the fact that so many people on this thread are mentioning Corbin or Ross. I just don’t see Cashman trading a major league ready piece for just a one year starter.
As for Hand, the Padres could probably get more on the trade market trading those two individually at the deadline. The price for closers is still insanely high.
thegreatcerealfamine
Not for that guy of course, but the Yankees will trade Frazier because he’s not in the future plans. They’ll trade Frazier if it bolsters their pitching be it for a rental or cost controlled pitcher. Frazier is just not that good anyway.
dobsonel
I think he is in their plans. Who takes over for Gardy next year?
thegreatcerealfamine
First off he’s another RH bat which they are right hand dominant now, and teams are exploiting that as is. “Who takes over for Gardy next year” probably someone who’s currently outside the org, this winter is going to be interesting. I don’t see him with the Yankees much longer, pitching will be the key.
dobsonel
Yes pitching is key, which is why with almost $40 mil coming off the books this offseason, it makes more sense to keep the minimum wage outfielder who could be just as productive next year as Torres and Andujar have been this year.
Yes I agree that with Frazier they will be even more RH dominant then they already are, but with a struggling Hicks, a 35 year old Gardner, and no one else in the farm ready to come up and play OF, I’d be surprised if Cashman cuts bait on Frazier at this point unless it’s for a starting pitcher with at least 3 years of team control.
dobsonel
Of course there is still the possibility that they replace Gardy with Gardy by exercising the option, but that’s an extra $10 mil gamble for a 35 year old.
thegreatcerealfamine
Frazier for one can’t play CF, and is not a proven commodity at all. Hoping that he produces like Torres has so far is wishful thinking. They are going nowhere this year without adding a starter of significance to take the ball after Severino for a playoff series. So you would rather have Frazier then Bryce Harper?..please don’t say anything of the cost..
dobsonel
I don’t have to mention the cost because the Hal already has “I’ve been saying you can have a world-championship-caliber team and not have a $200-plus-million payroll.”
They have $40 mil coming off the books and they NEED pitching. Why would they invent all of that in Harper and not get any rotation help?
Plus they have huge contracts they need to give out beginning in 4 to 6 years if they want to keep their core together, so why would they hamstring that future by having almost 40 mil per season tied up in a Harper? I think the addition of Stanton ended the Yankee’s pursuit of Harper.
dobsonel
I never said anything about Frazier playing CF. I’m just pointing out that that the Yanks have 2 OFers underperforming. One is possibly off the team next year and the other is injury prone. Why would Cashman trade the only current OF depth he has when he has Drury, Austin, Florial, Adams, Abreu, and countless others they can form a package around to grab a starter?
thegreatcerealfamine
They can sign Harper and stay under the threshold and add a pitcher.
1. There’s more then 40 million coming off.
2. The threshold Is increasing for next year.
3. Hicks isn’t going anywhere because a lot has to do with his glove.
4. Florial is going nowhere
5. Frazier will get traded this summer..Bank it.
dobsonel
1. No there isn’t. There is something like $46mil coming off if Gardy is not picked up but this is before all of the Arb. raises.
2. True so that does add $9mil, but again… Arb raises
3. Hopefully not, but if that OPS dips down again then all bets are off
4. He’s 20 and struggling in A ball. He’s 3 seasons away so I doubt he’s untouchable.
5. Maybe but Cashman has landed more with less. I think he keeps him around. At least until winter.
top jimmy
Call John Lackey.
Rickeo02
Wow it was already a shaky rotation
southpaw2153
Yankees need to look outside the organization for pitching. Adams and Sheffield are both relievers masquerading as starters. I don’t expect anything from either of them in the rotation, now or in the future.
I believe Cashman will target Hamels in the near future, especially if another starter goes down.
sam1897
Disagree about Sheffield, I do think he is a starter, but again at 22 years old, he is not ready for the majors. Totally agree about Adams, never really thought that he was going to make it as a starter, but would be a pretty good reliever. I just hope that the Yankees dont jump too high for Hamels, I think that he has regress to a flyball pitcher, and that doesn’t work in Yankee Stadium. Again just dont think that there is that October difference maker this year without a blockbuster trade with a team for a young starter..
thegreatcerealfamine
Adams yes. What in the world makes you think Sheffield is anything but a starter? Nothing Sheffield has done or the way the scouts and FO feel about him remotely says BP. WTF
sam1897
Well the fact that he was a first round pick as a starter, and that he is the 21st ranked prospect by baseball America and the 41st ranked prospect by mlb scouts as a starter. Also that he has a plus 70 scale fastball with a slider and change-up that is rated as above-average to plus pitches and are 55 scale. Sure sounds like a starter to ME. What makes YOU think that he is not a starter?
thegreatcerealfamine
Are you responding to me?
dobsonel
Not sure why you got 5 down votes. You might be right about Adams (although I think you’re wrong about Sheffield).
I think Hamels is on their radar as well. Because of the big contract and the $6 mil buyout, the Yanks can land him without having to deal anyone too important.
jbigz12
?Cole Hamels has regression written on his forehead, His GB% is down, his HR rate is way up. His LOB% is really high right now. His K’s are back up, but that’s really been his saving grace so far. He shouldn;t cost much at all, my only question would be do you really want him?
SippingthatHaderade
LETS GOOOOOO
Cat Mando
Where? Are you buying?
SippingthatHaderade
nah we splitting it 50/50 my guy
Cat Mando
Oh well, count me out, I’m broke..
Bocephus
Speak English.
thegreatcerealfamine
There’s 3 or 4 of him on here today!
SippingthatHaderade
I am the one and only. 😀
thegreatcerealfamine
Don’t upvote your own posts Richard.
mlb1225
Are The Padres listening on offers for Tyson Ross?
linc_case
If Arizona falls out of contention then perhaps Corbin would become available though the price would understandably be exorbitant. Figuring on the usual names to be offered is going to hurt for sure (I like Frazier but I would think he’d be in the package) I would still prefer Corbin over Hamels who has the Yanks on his no-trade list and IMO really does not want to come to NY.
baseball365
Unfortunate news. Honestly, I don’t like many of the trade options either. Not a fan of Fulmer. Corbin is obvious, but I just don’t see the Yanks giving up much considering he’s a free agent and also has voiced some interest to sign with them so it’s not like we need a crystal ball to see where that one is going in the offseason. Who knows.. I mean if the D-Backs want Chance Adams and swap for Corbin, ok, but I just can’t see much beyond that. Maybe I do Adams and a guy like McKinney. Two solid prospects. Or Adams and Tyler Austin.
DeGrom is the real prize for me. Hard trade to pull off, but the Yanks certainly have the parts to do it. I don’t want to trade Clint Frazier to be honest. The Yanks are going to need him actually after the season and I can’t think of a better player to hold onto at the moment. I’d rather hold on to him and trade Florial, Sheffield, Tate, and pick one more in the 15-20 range. That’s two former first round arms and the Yankees top position prospect at this point.
Everything is just meh. Sure, Hamels is a useful pitcher and would be easy for him to occupy that roster spot temporarily, but unless the Rangers are sending him and $10mm for maybe, again Chance Adams, I don’t see it. They want to send $10mm and take Adams, go for it.
Carrington Spensor
You don’t want to trade Frazier?
The guy is a corner OF. He is not going to play ahead of Judge or Stanton, and none of those 3 can play CF. DH doesn’t work because teams like the Yankees now rotate the DH to give players rest from playing in the field. Frazier is a trade chip, as is Tyler Austin. Add a few minor league arms and maybe they can do something somewhere.
Right now it looks like Hamels is their best shot as he can get them through 2018 (same with Happ). Then they can pursue Corbin. No way I would trade both Frazier and Austin for Hamels as a rental though. Just a few secondary prospects. I thought Ervin Santana would be a possibility as the season unfolds, but his rehab has been pushed back. Junis of the Royals might be a possibility if Dayton Moore sees the Royals needing 3 more years to realistically contend. Junis would take a package of 3 good prospects. Other starters will become available as the season progresses.
Right now the Yankees are crying out for a #2 starter. They can only hope that in some way Sonny Gray regains his form in the next few months.
dobsonel
Stanton is the DH 50% of the time. Gardy is a corner OFer on pace for over 500 PA’s this year and he could be gone next year. So I’m not really sure how you feel the Yanks can’t use Frazier next season.
thegreatcerealfamine
They need a LH hitter because their RH dominant lineup is being exploited.
Bruin1012
Man sorry to see a young pitcher like that go down to TJS. I’m sure the Yankees will be in the market for a starter now.
Pudge49902
Rangers released timmy. There you go
Dorothy_Mantooth
Makes you wonder if the Yankees should have passed on Stanton and gone after a quality starting pitcher…I’d say YES
SippingthatHaderade
agreed.
gleybertorres25
No. They gave up only Guzman and Devers as far as prospects are concerned. They still have $11-$12M to spend under the tax, so I don’t think it makes a difference
jdgoat
This year and in the next couple the deal is no problem for them. The problem is that it will likely become an albatross in the next half decade. But even if it were a problem this year, I’m sure Th eYankees would go by the luxury tax if it made sense. They are one of the top four teams in the AL and adding at the expense of luxury tax penalties probably wouldn’t be the worst idea if it improved them
Adam6710
What pitching was available that you’d rather have had? The Tigers wanted Andujar for Fulmer (and Fulmer’s not doing that well so far this season), and the Pirates wanted Gleyber for Cole.
They tried. They didn’t match up. Everyone knew pitching was going to be the area of concern even going into the offseason, this is not a surprising development.
tonysdog01
Severino and CC and pray for rain come playoff time.
costergaard2
You’re funny. Tanaka was excellent last postseason.
Bocephus
Tanaka is less dependable then the weather.
jimmertee
In Cashman we trust.
Bocephus
Nice try
its_happening
You longing for the days of Bob Quinn?
Bocephus
Bob Quinn?
its_happening
You proved my point Bocephus.
bronxboy28
I don’t understand why the Yankees don’t bring up pitchers from the minors. Ok, so they not of have not the greatest pitching records in the minors but, many times when you bring them up to the majors it’s a whole new ballgame! They pitch so much better because they’re getting a chance to pitch in the majors and they want to make the best impression they can! It cant worst then some of the pitchers they currently have on the big club! Yankees have nothing to lose. It’s better then trading for some so call established good pitcher for your best minor league players and then they find out they traded for a dud! Minors are the better and easier route to take! It’s my opinion!
jbigz12
yeah, thats how it works. When they can’t throw strikes and consistently get out Ruben Tejada in AAA, I’m sure they won’t have any problem finding the K zone facing Manny Machado.
Adam6710
Where do you think Jordan Montgomery came from? And Domingo German who replaced him? Luis Cessa, Bryan Mitchell, Gio Gallego…
They bring guys up all the time.