While the Dodgers had hoped to put an ugly April behind them, they’ve now lost seven of eight games and sit just a game up on the cellar-dwelling Padres. Clearly, it’s not too late for the club to get back into the division race; they sit eight back of the Diamondbacks, a large but hardly insurmountable gap at this stage of the year. But the questions and the pressures are only increasing in Los Angeles, where fans had hoped for a strong follow-up to a 2017 campaign that ended agonizingly close to a long-awaited World Series win.
President of baseball operations Andrew Friedman chatted with Bill Shaikin of the Los Angeles Times about the rough start and what he intends to do about it. It’s well worth a full read, but these are a few of the highlights:
- Manager Dave Roberts does not appear to be at risk of losing his job, with Friedman saying that “[t]here is no doubt in my mind that [Roberts] is the right guy to lead this team going forward.” At the same time, Friedman did not make any express guarantees of job safety for Roberts, who can be retained via club option in 2019. More broadly, Friedman said the preference is to focus on improving rather than assigning blame for a middling run to date. But “if we had to assign blame at this point,” he added, “it should be me who is taking that, and not [Roberts].”
- As Shaikin explains, the Dodgers’ lineup and starting rotation have actually produced at decent rates. While more might have been expected from those units, it’s a fairly short sample and injuries (to Justin Turner and Corey Seager, in particular) have certainly played a role. As Shaikin rightly notes, though, the bullpen has been a major problem for Los Angeles. Friedman acknowledges that issue, and generally expressed ample openness to seeking mid-season upgrades. But significant trades, just aren’t realistic at this point, he says, so the organization’s collective attention is on internal improvement. “When you’re evaluating things in May, the outside is not really a viable option,” says Friedman. “So all of your focus is on helping your own guys to perform up to their ability.”
- Of course, the relief unit lost some key pieces (most notably, Brandon Morrow) over the winter, with the Dodgers choosing to prioritize financial efficiency in finding replacements — due in no small part, it seemed, to the fact that the club preferred to stay beneath the luxury tax threshold. Shaikin pressed Friedman on the question whether the luxury line would continue to constrain the organization’s options as they weigh deadline maneuvers. The Dodgers’ top baseball executive did not commit to a willingness to go past the line, but did say that the competitive balance tax situation will generally be treated “just like trading prospects,” in that the club will need to “optimize the current year while putting [itself] in a position to sustain it.” It certainly sounds, then, as if the club will not be drawing any firm lines in the sand when it comes to taking on salary (versus parting with other resources) in mid-season trade talks.
em650r
Trade Hill already or get his blister fingers out of LA
sacball
nobody’s going to take on that contract for a pitcher made out of paper mache
AGAVE
X2
Kenleyfornia74
Hill is fine. They baby him, he even said weeks before he came off the DL he was fine to pitch. Do you think its a coincidence that during both years here he pitched for as far as they went in October? He will be healthy down the stretch
Steven Chinwood
Well this October he can watch all the games from his lazy boy while mending.
Solaris601
Should have never signed him for more than 2 years. He’s on the DL a little less than half the time for blisters, and Roberts can only use him for 5 innings on days he starts. No team will want that at any price.
justin-turner overdrive
They signed him knowing full well he was most likely only going to throw 20-ish games, that’s why they never traded Buehler, who is great. Stripling is also very good too. It’s not the starters, its the bullpen that’s a tire fire currently. What is wrong with Kenley?
Can’t expect a team to win games without their best 2 offensive players out either. I think LA will still contend though, it’s still really early in the season to be panicking, you do that in July, not early May.
greatdaysport
Friedman knew it was a bad rotation after Kershaw. All those starters have been injury prone or just crap before the season started.
Same with the bullpen after Jensen.
The position players are weak defensively.
They were blessed with few injuries last year and first year players playing over their heads.
puigpower
This is incorrect. They had plenty of injuries last year also. Those starters that you mention as being crap we’re actually just fine last year because the bullpen was better. Now that the bullpen is worse you think they’re crap. The position players are absolutely not weak defensively, it just happens that the best ones have been injured. Like the article states, the team hasn’t actually been that bad. They’ll right the ship and contend for WC. I don’t buy Arizona anyway so we’ll see how that goes too.
Blue_Painted_Dreams_LA
They are actually not weak defensively. They were first in def efficiency last year for a reason. When you lose a plus 3b, a plus/above average SS (both are their best and 2nd best hitters), and a plus/above average 2b they of course aren’t going to be the same caliber defensively, not to even mention even what it has meant to them offensively. The rotation comment is also false concerning your comments about being crap, but hey. Pen wise they haven’t been good. I just don’t think we’ve been able to see this team as it truly intended to look due to injuries. Due to the loss of Seager, we won’t, but hey teams deal with injuries. The only thing that plays in the Dodgers favor is the fact that one they are starting to get healthy offensively and they should absolutely be buried with such a poor start. Beyond that they really just need to play good baseball which I’m not sure they haven’t done beyond that one 7-3 stretch. By no means are they doomed,because inevitably they’ll go on that hot streak. At which point if you’d hope they’d be close to striking position. It’s really simple though if they don’t start playing good baseball then well their only real tradeable chip is Grandal. Beyond that it’s sort of just salary dumps.
justin-turner overdrive
“Bad rotation after Kershaw”
Wood 2.67 FIP
Maeda 3.20 FIP
Ryu 3.14 FIP
Hill 6.38 FIP
Buehler 1.64 FIP
Stripling 2.83 FIP
Ummm….you don’t know what you are talking about. How about sitting this one out?
semut
Dodgers actually set an mlb record for number of DL trips last year. But don’t let facts get in the way
Solaris601
The current CBA has not only incentivized tanking for teams who are rebuilding or retooling, but in the case of the Dodgers and Giants neither team can add significant players in season because they risk stepping over the luxury tax threshold for what? A third place finish instead of 4th or 5th? Friedman is between a rock and a hard place. Machado would help, but would he be enough and at what cost?
PopeMarley
SALARY CAP
Cat Mando
1994
PopeMarley
Well if a strike-walkout is what it takes to stop this tanking, so be it.
Cat Mando
It would have to be a lockout buy the owners not a strike since every MLBPA head since then has agreed on at least one thing…No Cap. One reason for the 94 strike was the owner insisting on a cap and the players saying no, not the other way around.
PopeMarley
Then the owners should hold their ground similar to what Hockey did. There needs to be a minimum payroll floor and a cap ceiling. This system is so wrong for so many reasons. My buddies don’t watch MLB and one of the reasons is the separation between haves and have-nots. Plus large market teams playing the rebuilding card-White Sox.
Cat Mando
The owner tried to hold ground in 94-95 and it almost destroyed the game completely. Do you really think they would risk that now considering the record profits?
Two things the MLBPA has been adamant about for years is no cap and there will never be non-guaranteed contracts when a player qualifies for such.
jekporkins
This is a Dodgers post and you’re talking about tanking? Name a team that has spent more than them the last five years.
PopeMarley
No team or teams should be allowed to spend like that. Look where the Dodgers are now.
Cat Mando
The Dodgers made their own choices. They still make money as does the league. “MLB Sets Record For Revenues In 2017, Increasing More Than $500 Million Since 2015. Major League Baseball continues to hit home runs on the business side. According to sources at the league, 2017 marks the 15th consecutive year MLB has seen record gross revenues, surpassing the $10 billion mark for the first time.” forbes.com/sites/maurybrown/2017/11/22/mlb-sets-re…
The CBT is a soft cap and the Dodgers or any team can go over if they want. Boston is $38,325,600 over according to Cots and they will pay penalties. LA is still $15,508,614 under (again according to Cots.
docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/e/2PACX-1vRghSG2xRO….
No one is forcing the Dodgers not to spend, it was their decision. All a hard cap would do is put more money in the coffers of some teams…that’s it.
joshua.barron1
Your friends don’t watch baseball because of the separation between haves and have-nots? As in the teams or the players?
PopeMarley
Average age of a MLB fan 55.
#3 in popularity , #3 in ratings.
As the ethnic population changes even more over the next ten years Soccer will leap over it.
When you lose the main revenue source cable deals because their attention is paid to another league “ Soccer” and the Boomers continue to die out, what’s left. No younger market 18-35, or coveted 35-50, no huge new cable deals then ???? Oh if their doing so well why are so many teams tanking?
PopeMarley
Combination of things, and that’s just one of them. Other reasons games too long, too many Strikeouts, Boring, hardly any American born black stars, the way the league freaks on PED’s, hell they even hate the way the games are broadcast.
oaksbossko
Yes because everyone wants to watch a bunch of guys running around chaotically while scoring maybe one goal and then ending the game in a tie. That will be sad if soccer overlaps baseball.
PopeMarley
Yea cause the majority of the world is wrong.
yonkers22
Here’s 2 problems with your argument…first, the soccer thing. Soccer has been the “most popular sport in the world” forever. I’m almost 40 and I’ve been hearing that since I was a kid and guess what? It’s still not more popular than any of the major sports in America, including baseball. Secondly, who won the world series? The Yankees? Nope. The Dodgers? Nope? Red Sox? Still no. It was the Astros. Not a major market, not a huge payroll. They were awful just 2 years ago. Baseball has more parity than any other sport as it relates to payroll and success. Nowadays, it’s the team’s that are smarter with how they spend their money that are successful and not teams that just spend a ton of money.
JayKay
Majority or minority, baseball seems to be doing just fine. If people think it’s boring then they don’t have to be invested in the game, do they?
Btw You say their isn’t enough “black stars” in the MLB, but what about the NBA? If we go by your logic then the NBA doesn’t have enough ‘white stars’.
And baseball has “black stars”, no? CC Sabathia, Robinson Cano, Adam Jones…
PopeMarley
“A they don’t have to be invested in the game, do they?” problem with logic is the people that are invested in the game are getting older, that is one of the reasons MLB is trying to make changes to attract younger people.
Of those players you mentioned none are stars, and Cano us not from the US, the closest things to stars now are Judge and Betts.
There no active MLB players in the 100 most recognizable sports stars, wow Jeter and Arod are.
The NBA has embraced to most popular culture in America, the hip hop culture, and has marketed its stars second to none. I really don’t want to go down the road of the majority of ethnicities that are invested in baseball.
PopeMarley
Parts of the country Soccer is more popular now, the NW for one, and again that’s why I covered the population change. In the NFL every team spends the same amount on players and every fan feels their team will compete. The Astros tanked along with the Cubs, but how long were their fans told it would take. How many teams will lose 100 gamesthis year.? When have the Yanks, Dodgers, or Red Sox had to tank to win?
JayKay
Hmm, fair enough. Ill admit that I skimmed through your posts and as a result had an inconclusive idea of what you were trying to prove. Looking back at your previous posts, including the one to me, I see that your getting at something else rather then what I assumed.
With that being said, I still think the MLB is, to some degree, fine. Certain changes could be made to make the game more “fair” as well as provide homegrown players the same benefits as foreign signed players or a draft including said foreign players. But of the changes possible, an equal payroll of sorts is near impossible, at least at this point as greed trumps equality in this case.
I’m fine with the sport NOT being popular with the masses. I enjoy it for what it is, faults and all. If you do have an issue with any of these things, I recommend taking your argument to where it has merit. Close to zero people on this website will care to pay heed to your argument and even if it did get around, the impact would be minimal.
Nonetheless, you will decide for yourself as will I. Best of luck in your endeavors.
PopeMarley
Thanks for the fair and polite reply. Yea the downside to discussing these subjects here is, most on here never want baseball to change. I love the game and hate having 1-2 people at work out of hundreds (none under 50) to talk to about the games.
JayKay
I can understand were your coming from, as I’ve had that same issue. I’m but a wee lass at age 21 and most fans I come across are young teens at age 13 to (as you mentioned) older adults at age 50. MLB might eventually have to deal with this discrepancy, but it’s just as likely that they won’t. It all depends on how the money flows.
Btw, what about baseball do you discuss with your fellow employees, if don’t mind me asking, as I’m curious as to what a group of fans of the sport talk about in the physical world.
PopeMarley
Mainly the Sox-Yanks, but we do discuss all manner of topics, such as Ohtani. Bummer is when we talk about seeing a game from Sunday Night Yanks-A’s we receive smart comments from others like..I’d rather watch paint dry. I’m 35 by the way.
JayKay
Interesting. I’ve never had any person, let alone coworker, who would care to converse baseball. I suppose the internet is partially to blame for that.
Thank you for your time. If you ever feel like talking again, you can find me on Twitter: mobile.twitter.com/drunkenstupor17
I don’t take things seriously on that site, so any topic is fine.
Otherwise, I believe you should to have a nice day. Goodbye.
jkurk_22
I’m 24 and I absolutely love baseball the way it is and I absolutely don’t want all these changes like pitch clocks and all that crap. I hate that stuff and while you’re right to some extent about some younger people hating things like that about baseball (there always have been and always will be people who feel that way. Good for them, go watch basketball, or soccer, both sports that bore me to death.), I have many friends and know many people my age and younger that love baseball just like it is.
drysdale53
Andy cares only about staying under the cap. Period. End of story. Houston WON the WS last year and went out an IMPROVED its rotation, the Dodgers lost and did NOTHING. Oh wait, they signed What’s his Name… Koehler… You’re doing a helluva job Brownie, I mean Andy
johnrealtime
teams aren’t trying to stay under the luxury tax so that they can get fat on the saved cash. they do it so that they can have more money to spend in subsequent years instead of paying that money in. it is a good strategy
GarryHarris
No organization can abandon fiscal responsibility and be successful. The Tigers are paying nearly 1/4 of Justin Verlander’s salary. Before that, the Astros tried to make due with the acquisition of Francisco Liriano. The Astros will begin to shed salary this offseason.
azmacky
Someone needs to man up with bullshit excuses. Friedman in this article or Roberts after game press conferences. Roberts thru the whole team under the bus a couple days ago when he said he doesn’t have the players to play small ball or hit & run. I realize Lenny & Squiggy bring in the players but Roberts saying their not good enough is complete loss of trust in the locker room.
Kenleyfornia74
RIP this commwnt when a mod sees it
justin-turner overdrive
Imagine being this much of a crybaby on May 15.
stansfield123
Re-setting the luxury tax is a good strategy. Honestly, unless they go on a tear and end up in first place by the deadline, they should go a step further in laying the foundations for a dominant team in the next five years, and be sellers this summer.
Solaris601
I agree. Friedman can’t come out and say they aren’t making any significant additions to stay under the LTT or all hell will break loose in the fan base. Makes no sense for LA to give up any part of the future for a rental, and even in a perfect world no team rebuilds their bullpen in season. Dodgers will make do with what they have even if it means finishing behind SD. Puig, Ryu, and Forsythe are off the books after this year. Kershaw may opt out, and Grandal will walk unless extended. Dodgers aren’t necessarily tanking, but the wisest course in this CBA for them is to reset the LT and load up next winter.
BlueSkyLA
Yup, and if Friedman was honest with the fans they might accept that plan and ease up on him and the rest of the organization. Instead he seems to believe we aren’t half as smart as he is and we can be led by the nose and won’t care or notice.
Solaris601
Friedman reminds me of Mark Shapiro in that regard – never gives a straight or substantive answer to any question. He just goes into business speak mode until everyone’s eyes start glazing over. If you don’t think you can convince them, confuse them.
BlueSkyLA
Pure arrogance is what we are talking about here. Friedman should be fired if for no other reason than communications is an essential skill in this job, and his ability in that department is less than nil. He’s never found a fire that shouldn’t be put out with gasoline.
Next, Shaikin should get on the phone with Mark Walter or someone else in ownership (it would have to be on the phone since none of them show their faces at games) and ask them to explain the plan to the fans. Those are the people who deserve to be on the hot seat.
Blue_Painted_Dreams_LA
Well no team rebuilds a team a pen in season is sort of untrue the nationals did it last year to a certain extent last year. Although in that respect they didn’t have a Jansen in the back end. They can certainly do such. It’ll be interesting to watch how Alexander responds long term after the reset and how Cingrani does when they aren’t running him out there injured. But there are certainly potential back end pen pieces there. In another respect the Dodgers don’t have much to sell beyond Grandal. Puig is not coming off the books the next year as he’ll be in his last year of arb. Even if the Dodgers can’t figure it out by the deadline they might be in a position to still buy in the offseason. Realistically though they need to get healthy and play good baseball, none of which they’ve really done this season.
Blue_Painted_Dreams_LA
* still buy for the long term.
BlueSkyLA
If the point of resetting the luxury tax this year wasn’t to position them to spend next year, then what the heck was the point? Sure the team needs to get healthy and play good baseball, but ownership also needs to be accountable and communicate. This they simply will not do.
joblo
How they gonna afford Manny Machado?
mt in baltimore
Doesn’t seem to be in the cards.
justin-turner overdrive
trade Rich Hill for him lol
sportsfan101
MLB needs a hard salary cap like all other sports plain and simple. It would change everything in the mlb.
Adam6710
I get the argument for a salary cap, but how would that help the dodgers and the situation they’re in? Spending less money would not help them win more games.
Salary cap’s are, generally, to prevent teams with enormous financial incentives (like the Dodgers, Yankees, and Red Sox) from spending to acquire all the best talent and/or spending to improve their clubs at the cost of improving other clubs.
A salary cap doesn’t apply to the situation of the Dodgers struggling in the bottom of the division.
AGAVE
I really see a small change coming in a trade scenario that includes Puig.
He, although not playing up to his ability, needs a change. A new place to play may do it.
I think this will also free up small money in our overall team cost.
1,2,3 A player(s) works for me.
May need to include an additional player to get a deal started.
If AF is concerned about LTax hits, then at least create an opportunity to free up additional payroll to put towards a FA.
beto
It’s only about halfway through May. The Dodgers will be fine. Once JT and Kershaw are back that’ll give them a huge boost. Hopefully Bellinger improves sooner rather than later. Any of Forsythe, Taylor, Toles, Puig, and Pederson will heat up again. They have a deep enough farm system to fill out whatever remaining holes in the lineup they have. They’re definitely gonna have to get a new bullpen though and probably one more pitcher to make the rotation some combination of Kershaw, Wood, Buehler, Ryu/Maeda/Hill and whoever else they can acquire.
beto
Dodgers could get Lowrie/Dozier/Gennett for 2B. There isn’t much for SS besides Manny so they’ll probably stick with Taylor there. There’s plenty of rental OF SP and RP. Iglesias would be nice.
BlueSkyLA
You apparently didn’t read the article. Friedman is not going over the luxury tax threshold. No way, no how. That’s why this team is done for the season in May, even if Friedman doesn’t have the guts to say it. Nobody is fooled so the only question is why he bothers with these horse hockey answers. Maybe he hopes to get a raise for being such a good company man.
BlueSkyLA
“If we are able to do that, the answer is: maybe.”
—Andrew Friedman at his mealy-mouthed best.
bart4u
Been a fan for many years now. The Dodgers only care about making money. 3/4 of the Los Angeles residents still cannot watch the Dodger Network. Vin Scully cannot watch them because his cable network was shut of the deal. You would think the greedy Dodgers would had fixed it but they did not. The price for a good seat is for the lucky or the really rich and that goes for their bad stadium food. $7.00 for a coke is ridiculous. The Dodgers will always make a profit. They need a new GM and manager. Roberts decisions are very troubling. You never take a pitcher out in the 7th inning when they are throwing a no hitter. Roberts made bad choices during last years World Series. The Dodgers lost their set up man because they did not want to pay him. With Kershaw hurt we are left with a bad rotation of starting pitching. GM refused to build the pitching staff. Our number one shortstop will be out 1.5 years and the Dodgers did not trade to replace him. It’s bad moves left and right with this team. Last year they were very lucky because of low injuries but this year with so many injuries as a GM you have to have the ability to trade to improve the team. I do not see this happening and the team will finish 4th or last this year.
belfalbran
There is hope in only the Dodgers farm system. The big league level has too many issues. Start selling for whatever they can get. Get rid of Honeycutt and the hitting coach. Put Roberts on notice. Let kershaw walk. Start over. They have put together a nice farm.
BlueSkyLA
Is that you, Andrew?
The FO builds a defective roster, and the solution is firing the coaches and scorching the manager’s backside? Yeah, that makes sense.
They don’t need to start over. They need trade off everybody who isn’t in the plan for next year and commit to making a big splash in the free agent market this winter. They need to be honest with the fans. All of that is difficult to impossible for this FO because to them the fans are nothing more than a nuisance, a buzzing sound to be ignored.
Bryzzo2016
Didn’t the Dodgers just get to the NLCS in back to back years? The Cubs have gone 3 straight and played the Dodgers twice in a row, so… yeah, you don’t blow it up and “start over”. There are 3 reasons the market was slow this winter, not collusion, but Harper, Machado, and Kershaw. Friedman is not afraid to spend, like the Yankees, he wanted to reset the luxury tax penalty and not be a continual repeat offender. The same reason the Cubs low balled Arrieta and even Darvish, who was “projected” to get A LOT more than the 22AAV the Cubs got him for. These 3 major market teams are now all under the tax heading into next winter which will be the strongest FA class in our lifetimes. In other words, Theo, Cashman and Friedman are playing chess, not checkers.
All of that being said, the major issues with the Dodgers are the bullpen and quite frankly, health. Take any team’s ace and best hitter out of the mix and they’re gonna struggle. Kershaw will be back soon, same with Turner, hopefully that gets Bellinger, Taylor, Kenley and Puig motivated and going. If they’re within 5 games of the D Backs in July, which I think they will be, Friedman will upgrade the pen WITHOUT going over the luxury tax. The Dodgers will be fine.