Neil Walker tells Billy Witz of the New York Times that his camp held fairly extensive talks with the Yankees before they acquired Brandon Drury (all links to Twitter). Walker said he and his agents felt that they were “fairly close” to hammering out a deal with the Yanks, who instead swung a trade to bring in Drury for added infield depth. The 32-year-old switch-hitter felt the Yankees were a strong fit, as he knows the rigors of playing in the New York media market and was “certainly willing” to bounce around the infield and play multiple positions. Walker was hoping for a multi-year deal with the Yankees, though, and suggests that the team ultimately “decided to hang onto money for midseason,” when they could be in the market for adding veterans via trade.
More from the division…
- The Rays have taken plenty of heat for their offseason moves, though Travis Sawchick of Fangraphs observes one common thread among the hitters they’ve let go: a susceptibility to whiffs against four-seam fastballs. Corey Dickerson swung through more four-seamers than anyone in Major League Baseball last season by a wide margin, Sawchik notes, while Steven Souza was third on that list and Logan Morrison tied for seventh. Sawchik also notes that each of the three had declines in the season’s second half (though Morrison maintained above-average production). Replacements such as Carlos Gomez and especially C.J. Cron had fewer struggles against the fastball, he adds. Sawchik has written in the past about how the Tampa Bay organization emphasizes utilizing elevated fastballs as a weapon more than most other clubs, so perhaps that trend applies to both sides of the ball.
- The Boston Globe’s Alex Speier runs through some troubling numbers for the Red Sox’ offense from 2017, observing that the team’s lineup was startlingly ineffective in hitters’ counts. Boston took an abnormally passive approach at the plate last season, per Speier, and while they were among the game’s more productive clubs in 0-2, 1-2 and 2-2 counts, they ranked in the bottom third of baseball in 3-1, 2-0, 2-1, 1-0, 0-0, 1-1 and 0-1 counts (by measure of OPS). The Red Sox ranked last in the American League in batting average, on-base percentage and slugging percentage in 0-0 counts, he adds. Speier spoke at length with principal owner John Henry about the trends, which did not go unnoticed by ownership or the front office and may have played a notable role in the organization’s coaching overhaul. Notably, Speier adds that new skipper Alex Cora saw his Astros pounce on the first pitch with regularity and with great success in 2017.
thegreatcerealfamine
So glad they didn’t sign Walker…
BSPORT
Agree, would be another overpaid average player to sit next to Ellsbury on the bench.
jamesorange12
Walker’s problem has never been mediocrity…it’s been his ability to stay healthy. When he stays healthy he’s a solid player. He’s amassed a 20 WAR over his career – even with his back issues
pasha2k
Well NYY were dying to get Ellsbury, as they were Damon, see where it got them?
costergaard2
Damon won the WS and stole an extra base though the shift. The mistake was giving Ellsbury Cano’s exact deal. They should have signed Ells to a four year deal like they did Damon.
whitemule70
Yup. The Drury deal was ideal.
Psychguy
More RS items please, we don’t get enough.
mike156
Harsh environment here….
dynamite drop in monty
Red Sonja is underrated.
Ken M.
I agree. Conan the Barbarian!
Cuso
I prefer Conan the Destroyer with Bombatta – Wilt the Stilt!
nutbunnies
Walker would have been a nice addition, but obviously a guy like Drury is gonna be more desirable due to age and the arb situation.
66TheNumberOfTheBest
Walker is the perfect example of the type of player the union failed by constantly selling out the young players for the benefit of veteran stars.
Brandon Drury will make about $500,000 this season. (Every single NHL player makes more than this in a sport that generates 40% of the revenue, for comparison’s sake.)
Why would a team pay Neil Walker $5 million, let alone the $12-15 million he probably expected, when they can get Drury for $500,000?
Repeat this same logic across dozens, maybe hundreds of roster spots and it explains why few have left the free agent camp so far.
gocincy
This is spot-on. The union has made poor choices that betray their veteran players. And they have been out-negotiated by the owners repeatedly.
SG
So what did the Red Sox hitting coach do differently in 2016?
And, as I recall, David Ortiz had a great year in 2016.
Or are we saying that Big Papi was his own hitting instructor?
So why don’t we just get a guy Big Papi likes as hitting coach?
It’s had to believe the hitters could be so pathetic after talking with Ortiz for multiple years. Or was Big Papi just keeping them in the middle of the team stats 2016+?
pasha2k
Papi made everyone better.
hozie007
The Red Sox lack of power last year was a weakness that was exposed in the post season and will be troubling for them in 2018 if JD, Moreland and Hanley don’t produce consistently. The Astros were very consistent in hitting all year…..which paid off in the end. The problem is the RS don’t have an ‘Altuve’…that guy single-handedly won about 20 games for the Stros last year.
anarchoburrito
There are 29 teams that don’t have an Altuve.
BlueJayFan1515
There are 29 teams without a Trout.
costergaard2
There are 29 teams without Ellsbury
R.D.
Nah but betts and benintendi are definitely potentially one peg below altuve this year. Its smart for them to be a little patient with them.
MB923
Betts yes. Benintendi? Not even close. (Yet).
pasha2k
Severs may turn out to be a huge weapon.
pasha2k
Devers^^
tyronbiggums
Moreland isn’t going to be an offense guy, he’s known for his glove. Hanley will need a big year if he wants the 22m for next season
mikeyank55
Hanley is washed up. He can’t get around on a fastball anymore. By the ASG he will figure a way to DL so he doesn’t have to play 1B.
They will need more that Moreland and JD. The lineup is awfully short; especially in light of losing their Apple Watch advantage.
SKbreesy
Hanley will do everything he can to avoid the DL, if he goes on the DL for an extended period of time his option won’t vest. And there’s no way he’s going to make anywhere near 20 mil anywhere else.
SKbreesy
And the most important hitter for the Red Sox is Mookie, can he return to his 2016 form? If so the offense will already be better.
pasha2k
And Bogarts
Pedro Cerrano's Voodoo
Go back under your bridge to spew your nonsense.
bandit
Moreland and Hanley produced consistently – they were bad all year
The Analyst
I think salaries are being suppressed because we’re in a transition period from traditional stats to advanced stats and the league hasn’t quite established which of these new stats are going to be universally valued and sought after. Once that happens, salaries will start getting bid up on those players and the world will resume turning again.
pjmcnu
I think it has less to do with figuring out the newly valued stats & more to do with (1) all GMs valuing the same thing (so there’s no diversity of opinion to create a true market) and (2) GMs deciding (again, uniformly) that players over 30 aren’t valuable, while outdated service time rules (uniformly manipulated by those same GMs to provide extra years of control) ensure most MLB players don’t hit their FA years until they’re declared “old”. So most players find themselves under team control for almost all, if not all, of the years that those same teams now uniformly declare are their useful years. I have no problem with new thinking on age, as long as new thinking on service time is implemented.
martyvan90
Steroids distorted the aging curve and data has clearly defined value. Why should “new thinking on service time be implemented” without a negotiation? Not a shill for owners but the MLBPA negotiated the current deal.
yesgeo
good point about age… but much more important are all the retirement players who burned the teams by long term high pay with low performance. .. lies about their skills..
better to do performance contracts or 2 year contracts so if proven to be retirement player them teams can negate the damage and put the clown on a farm somewhere instead in baseball…
customcrown
Only a matter of time til we return to the logic that had Heyward “settling” for a $190M contract lol
joew
I feel bad for Walker. I wish the pirates had a spot for him but as it stands they have Freese, S-Rod and Frazier already to fill in the positions one would consider him for (not to mention upcoming prospects)
Maybe if the pirates find takers for S-Rod and Freese and pick up neal at 3r/15M+small incentives and some options.on a bench/insurance role… if he is even interested.
He isn’t going to find a 10M/year payday anywhere, there are just too many young studs coming up that are as good as he is and frankly a 2-3WAR player isn’t worth 15M/year any more unless you are a starting pitcher (and even then maybe not)
the ‘problem’ isn’t that players or teams are greedy, the ‘problem’ is teams have realized they don’t need to pay 15M for an average everyday starting position player when they can get near the same on the field value for a fraction of the cost. Just because teams are rich doesn’t mean they should overpay.
jbigz12
Neil will be happy with a 2 year deal at this point. The pirates have room for him if they want to pony up the money. Anyway he took the QO and made 17+ last year so I’m sure he’s not hurting too bad.
joew
eh they’d have to make room, with david sean and adam covering the positions he would playing. If they could find a taker for david or sean (also to offset walkers salary not that it would be needed)
R.D.
Thats an interesting perspective on the rays trade decisions. Doesnt change the fact that dickerson had a good deal of trade value.
therealryan
As much as Rays fans, me included, thought Dickerson should have had a decent amount of surplus value as an above average hitting, 29 year old 2-2.5 WAR LF/DH with two arb seasons remaining, 29 MLB GMs did not agree. There is no way the Rays passed up better offers if they were out there. The average player is being highly devalued in this current market.
Blue_Painted_Dreams_LA
He clearly did not have much trade value. The market is overflowing with averagish, to be nice, corner defenders that are no longer in high demand. His bat wasn’t that special to demand surplus trade value. There are to many like type players that are cheaper to be had. His terrible 2nd half also did not do him any favors. So no it seems pretty clear the Rays only tendered him to try and extract some sort of value. The only problem with that was the saturation of these players on the market and the market really just at a complete stand still. The game appears to be running away from bad non versatile corner guys who aren’t elite hitters at their positions.
tharrie0820
Dickerson had a good deal of trade value? Oh, so you know better than the Rays and every other team they negotiated with? Man, what are you doing commenting on MLBTR, go get a job in a club’s front office! Bet you’d have that team winning back to back to back to back to back to back to back World Series in no time!
Ookashfah
You realize that front office execs comment on this site all the time, right?
Phillies2017
My problem with the Rays moves isn’t what they did, it’s how they did it
Logan Morrison, 38 home runs, no qualifying offer (Seeing as how he was projected to make over $30m, unlikely he took it)
Corey Dickerson- All Star- Pretty much just dumped
Jake Odorizzi-Very Valuable ML Starter- Given up for almost nothing
Brad Boxberger- Strong controllable reliever- Given up for almost nothing
I’m all for remodeling a team to make it a specific way, however at least get decent returns for what you are giving up. While it seems as if they have more of a plan, this reminds me of what Chip Kelly did when he massacred the Eagles by releasing DeSean Jackson and trading off Foles and Shady for almost nothing.
redsoxrob9418
Can’t wait to listen to the Yankees whine about there massive payroll and all the money they owe Over paid long term deals
stratcrowder
We’re pretty happy with our team, and last time I checked, we’re still under the luxury tax and only sitting on one ‘bad’ contract in Ellsbury. 2018 and way beyond is looking pretty good without the need to pay out another large contract.
kingbum
Salaries are suppressed because you can’t pay everyone 11 figures and expect to be viable in the future….There is a ceiling to the risk owners are willing to expose themselves to, and you minimize risk by bringing in pre-arbitration talent. What this does for the future is put a huge premium on draft picks