Some items from the Bronx…
- Indians right-hander Danny Salazar was one of several pitchers the Yankees considered as potential trade targets last winter, Joel Sherman of the New York Post writes. Salazar is controlled via arbitration through the 2020 season and he has shown excellent promise when healthy, posting a 3.82 ERA, 10.5 K/9, and 3.27 K/BB rate over 587 1/3 career innings with the Tribe. Unfortunately, Salazar has also been bothered by shoulder and elbow problems over the last two years, and he looks to miss at least a bit of time at the start of the 2018 season due to rotator cuff inflammation. Despite the health risks, Salazar has been a popular trade target for multiple teams, with the Cubs and Brewers both being linked to the righty this offseason.
- Also from Sherman’s piece, he doesn’t blame the Yankees for jumping at the unique opportunity to land Giancarlo Stanton, though in terms of pure payroll allocation, rotation help was more of a need than another big bat. Aside from re-signing C.C. Sabathia, the Yankees didn’t do much to address possible questions in the rotation, though they did explore trades for the likes of Salazar and Gerrit Cole. New York was only on the periphery of the Yu Darvish hunt, with GM Brian Cashman telling Sherman that “We talked about Darvish with [his agent] Joel Wolfe, but it never got off the ground. We kept seeing if his market collapsed and it didn’t.” Cashman also noted that “Darvish was never a choice for us, in terms of length [of contract request] with a pitcher,” which Sherman interprets as the Yankees no longer being comfortable handing out major long-term deals to pitchers in their 30’s and/or with notable injury histories.
- Tyler Wade will be on the Yankees’ Opening Day roster, manager Aaron Boone told MLB.com’s Bryan Hoch and other reporters. Wade’s multi-positional versatility will help a New York team that is only planning to have a three-man bench for now, in order to deploy an eight-man bullpen. Wade’s roster opportunity may come at the expense of Jacoby Ellsbury, who Boone said isn’t likely to be ready for the start of the season as the veteran outfielder continues to recover from an oblique injury.
- The Yankees have long been considered a prime suitor for Manny Machado when the Orioles star hits free agency next winter, though Mike Axisa of the River Ave Blues blog questions whether the two sides are an ideal fit. For one, New York has solid-to-very good shortstop and third base options both at the big league level (Didi Gregorius, Brandon Drury, Wade) and coming up in the minors (Gleyber Torres, Miguel Andujar), so even though Machado is an elite player, the Yankees might prefer to spend their money on pitching instead of the left side of the infield. To that same end, Axisa wonders if the Yankees will, as rumored, once again far exceed the luxury tax level for big-money free agents like Machado, given Hal Steinbrenner’s desire to keep payroll relatively in check, at least by the Yankees’ standards.
Kenleyfornia74
Darvish’s market did collapse. 120 million is cheap for how much top of the rotation arms have gone for
stansfield123
It’s $126M, front loaded with an opt out. It’s worth just as much as the 6 years, $150M that was supposed to be his market value.
reflect
Darvish isn’t a top of the rotation pitcher though. He’s very good but not a #1 on most playoff teams.
biasisrelitive
I’d say he’s a Tor guy but not an ace
Mikel Grady
He is #2 or #3 on playoff bound Chicago Cubs team. Could have made brewers or cards and a few others playoff bound. Nationals would have been favorites if they signed him. Dodgers weaker without him.
biasisrelitive
it was a bit down but didn’t collapse like Lynn or mouse
walls17
Yankees definitely do not need Machado as things stand now. Yes things can change, but even looking at Didi Gregorius, how much better would Machado honestly be than him?I think it’s closer than you think. Hal Steinbrenner believes (and he’s right) that you don;t need a 200 million+ payroll to win a title. Pitching should be the priority for the Yankees going forward, they have the offense necessary to win.
Also s/o to RiverAveBlues, the best Yankees blog, Mike and the staff mentioned in the article do a great job, and the commenters are, shall we say, interesting to say the least
thegreatcerealfamine
PinstripeAlley is pretty good also. So glad Wade ended up making the team,despite some people posting negative things on here about him.
walls17
Wade definitely deserved it, Andujar and Torres will get their chance but Wade was too good this spring to get sent back to AAA
xabial
I was one of the Wade naysayers, and I’m glad he’s doing well. From all reports, his defense is legit; and He’s been Hitting this Spring. (One of their best hitters)
I wanted to trade him because his debut last year felt LOT LONGER— than 58 AB.. I thought he would follow up his 2017, with a similar 2018– and didn’t want the Yankees to waste potential trade value. I was wrong to call him a scrub, and hope his ST carries to his 2018. I’m a Yankee fan and just want this team to do well, even if Wade makes me look like a fool, and hits in 2018, like ST
walls17
to be fair, he did apparently make some adjustments this offseason, working with pujols. his bat was always his biggest question, but it is seeming to come together for him, not that ST stats are indicative of anything.
he should be a valuable player for the yankees this season, no matter what his role is
Mike Angarone
Now they have Wade who can play multiple positions. What’s that do to Torreyes? Can they carry all those OF’s and 2 utility players?
xabial
I think they will carry all these OF and 2 utility players. Torreyes hit well filling in for injures last year, is hitting well this spring, and Wade’s ST has been nothing short of a resurgence.
Your guess is as good as mine. PinstripeAlley does a pretty good “Making the team” graphic every week for every player on the roster, based on their ST, and NYY depth. Check it out: pinstripealley.com/yankees-spring-training-prospec…
jdgoat
Ya, signing Machado seems to be something that would be bringing a guy in just for his name. Gregorius isn’t getting moved, and they’d almost have to trade one of Andujar/Torres if they were serious about bringing him in. They should definitely invest in their rotation instead.
Adam6710
Well there is another possibility: sign Machado and trade the youngsters for pitching.
With their current rankings, I have to believe that the likes of Torres, Andujar, Frazier, and Florial– packaged alongside some other lower prospects– could potentially bring back TWO cost controlled, young, elite (or close to elite) starters.
And they’d STILL be able to field a top 5 lineup for the next few years.
Mattimeo09
Really, which two?
biasisrelitive
grease but what I’m saying is a lot of teams seem to be wanting to add to the rotation next year and there isn’t many free agent pictures that look good. I would be stunned of Kershaw leaves La so that leaves you with guys like keuchel Drew pomeranz and Garrett Richards
Familia1931
Ok, this is starting to feel like the Yankees the 90’s and early 2000’s that were involved with every name out there. Pretty soon they might have a line up of Torres, Harper, Stanton, Judge, Machado, Sanchez, Bird and Andujar. This is very possible. Scary too.
rsoxfan4ever
Dream on idiot
rocky7
I thought the IDIOTS were the Red Sox!
Cowboy Up!
The Oregonian
How is them getting Harper AND Machado next year “very possible”?
Adam6710
$$$$$
I don’t agree that it’s “very” possible, but certainly feasible if they wanted to. An outfield of Stanton/Harper/Judge is certainly a possibility, and it wouldn’t be the first time they added TWO massive contracts in the same offseason (2008 comes to mind).
I’d prefer they didn’t though. Would rather see the young players play.
biasisrelitive
how does adding Harper work defensively
Mikel Grady
Throw in Kershaw too. If your going to dream big.
customcrown
Dreaming on it
deweybelongsinthehall
LOL. Machado AND Harper? As the article says, with the everyday roster you already have, get a true number 1 assuming those in the organization don’t develop into one. Severino could be that person but only time will tell. The team has the minor league talent to trade for a true top of the rotation guy (never happen but a Dr Grom for Frazier, Sheffield and third but lesser top talent could be a win-win. Let’s see in two years how the Sox’ Sales trade plays out. Kopech could be the Sheffield and Moncada the Frazier.
Bocephus
Severino is a #1 starter right now. Nobody really cares that Sox fans don’t think so.
jdgoat
He had one good season. He’s still gonna need to replicate that before he’s considered a top pitcher.
srechter
Yankees fan/Severino proponent here, and I ultimately agree with you. Being an ace is more than one productive year, but rather a trend of elite production that suggests such production will continue. Severino has yet to achieve that, but he’s well on his way.
Pedro Cerrano's Voodoo
There’s still questions. Nobody really cares that a yankee fan thinks there isn’t.
thegreatcerealfamine
He’s the top of the rotation pitcher on this staff. Since this is what is being addressed..your two cents are rejected…
thegreatcerealfamine
He’s obviously answering to the Sox troll. He is the Yankees top pitcher and is taking the ball on opening day…
PopeMarley
Try maybe educating yourself on the Yanks staff!
mikeyank55
Such insight Goat. Glad you bring your point of view to the discussion.
Pedro Cerrano's Voodoo
Ahh and the insightful guru that is mikeystank makes an appearance with sarcasm and nothing else to offer. Yaaay
jdgoat
I know they’re the evil empire and if any team could do that, it’s them, but the chances of that team happening is probably less than 5%.
stansfield123
It’s not possible, because your lineup doesn’t have a center fielder on it.
Adam6710
If you’re referring to his fantasy of Harper/Stanton/Judge, it’s worth noting that Harper has 121 games at CF across his career. He’s not a natural center-fielder, no, but given the offensive output that trio would be capable of I’m sure any defensive issues would be absorbed pretty easily.
I mean, you’re talking about a the starting outfield for the All-Star team, a trio that would hit 130+ home runs, 350 RBI, and take 325+ walks.
FWIW though, I doubt Harper is ever a Yankee now that Stanton is in the fold.
Perksy
They really don’t need a lineup like that. Just concentrate on pitching and development of the young hitters and they should be fine.
biasisrelitive
good job with some of the worst Outfield defense ever you don’t have a center fielder LOL think before you post
Mike Angarone
Hicks is a pretty good cf. Gardner is above avg. In left and Judge above avg in right! Nothing wrong with their defense
brucenewton
Their current OF defense is fine. He’s talking about adding Harper and sticking him in CF with potentially Judge and Stanton in the corners. That would be comically bad.
Mattimeo09
Doubles would turn into triples lol
customcrown
Dreaming of this day..
Yankee Notesssss
xabial
Dreaming of this day..
No more Trollsssss
PopeMarley
On this one I concur!
javier 3
The Yankees will not get Machado or Harper. There lineup is already elite. There outfield is crowded with Judge,Stanton,Gardner,Frazier,Ellsbury and Hicks. There infield is very crowded with Walker,Gregorious,Drury,Wade,Torres,Andujar,Torreyes and more. They need to upgrade there rotation!! There is no way they will sign Machado or Harper and if they do then that is a horrible move for the Yankees!!!
thegreatcerealfamine
Not saying they will or won’t sign either but understand a couple things.
Gardner is gone after this year.
Didi is a FA after 2019.
Frazier doesn’t have a spot and so might be used in a trade.
Everyone outside of NY talks about their need for pitching but it was fine last year and is only gonna improve with what they have.
thegreatcerealfamine
If they due indeed feel they need pitching they have a deep farm to trade from. Bottom line if they want to sign Machado they know best…
toomuchpie
Gardner has a team option for 2019. Not out of the question NY keeps him one more year.
xabial
I used to think Gardy’s 2019 club option was guaranteed exercise. Look at his 2017:
1) Elite Defense— +20 DRS, +6.8 UZR in OF.
Among all LF: #1 DRS (+17), and #2 UZR (+7.1) in 2017
(Career: +120 DRS, +83.4 UZR in OF)
2) .264 BA, with .350 OBP— 21 HR, 23 SB in 2017.
With OF depth, 2018 FAmaybe it gets declined.. in 2017: He is best Defensive LF in the game, despite his age.
Regardless what happens… Brett Gardner’s a really underrated player!
fangraphs.com/leaders.aspx?pos=lf&stats=fld…
brucewayne
I can see them going for Arenado over Machado or Harper! In my opinion, he’s the better all-around player anyway.
xabial
Thank you for citing River Ave Blues. They are my favorite news source, that focuses on only Yankees. They are better than a lot of mainstream media outlets for Yankee news and their analysis is exceptional. hope you cite them more often!
Adam6710
I don’t know what you’re talking about MLBTR cites them regularly.
walls17
On the contrary, I am mostly against giving big contracts to aging pitchers unless they are truly elite (scherzer, kershaw) so I think it would be wise for the Yankees to use their prospect surplus to get starting pitching rather than singing “elite” guys. Signing a big time position player is still possible, but I think they would be better off going after bryce harper instead of machado. You move Bryce to left, Stanton to DH full time. There wouldn’t be any issue at all
KnicksFanCavsFan
I don’t think anyone is swearing he will be a star. I for one, was against the trade and ready to go with Andujar out the box. However, he’s only 25 , has shown power potential and Cashman and his scores have liked him for a while. Considering what Hicks started to show last year and the emergence of Didi as a power hitter it’s not far fetched to think maybe their scouts are right and maybe he can become a solid 25 hr/35 dbls hitter with a .275/.330 bat/obp line and slightly better than league avg glove at 3b.
KnicksFanCavsFan
Everything the Yanks have done this year puts them in a position where they don’t have to be pressed to sign Machado to a huge contract. They’ve liked Drury over the years and feel like he’s on the brink of having a breakthrough season. They have Did I who just came into his own with his bat at SS and a couple of really promising prospects that they seem to like. Also, with the young core of quality power hitters such as Judge, Stanton, Sanchez and Bird makes the need for Machado less of a need and more of a desirable luxury item. Truth be told, Machado glove makes him elite. His bat is great but in todays world is a .279/.329/.426 slash line truly elite? Isn’t a huge part of his value based upon his age? He has yet to truly show growth offensively. We’re all waiting for that MVP caliber year but we haven’t seen it yet. Forget about the name. Based off of the last two years is he truly worthy of a $300 mil deal? I can argue there were at least 4 3B THAT were better last year. I think Manny feels moving to SS might help his value and increase his chances at getting that $300 mil but I don’t think it’s ridiculous to speculate that Lindo, Seager and maybe even Did I might be just as good as Manny might be at SS on both sides of the ball. Shouldn’t you be posting the best numbers at your position to be considered elite?
wiggysf
Yeah, I’ve pretty much thought the same thing. Thanks for actually putting it into words
ammiel
surely Yankees go after Kershaw if he opts out.
rivera42
Kershaw never makes it to the market. Have to imagine the Dodgers will lock him up long before that.
brucenewton
Yeah I doubt he hits the market. Besides, he just turned 30 and already has 2000 innings on his arm. When’s the last time a pitcher with that workload worked out long term? Probably hasn’t past age 32 in modern times.
thecoffinnail
Grienke seems to be holding his own. I agree though. With Kershaw already having an injury history costing a good part of a couple of seasons it would be wise to stay away from him long term.
brucenewton
Greinke’s current contract is obviously bad news long term. At 30 he had a lot less innings than Kershaw does now and still had enough left for a good year at 33. C.C. and Felix are two recent pitchers who received Kershaw type workloads in their 20’s. Both quickly went from ace to back of rotation numbers by 32.
JaysForDays
I haven’t checked the stats, but I’d be confident Roy Halliday was on this list… and didn’t regress much or at all, even til the day he retired.
davidcoonce74
Not just modern times; pitchers who age well past age-32 are the outliers in every era. Even most HoF pitchers were done by 32.
davidcoonce74
Not just modern times; pitchers who age well past age 32 are the outliers in any generation. Even pitchers in the HoF. Pitching is an unnatural thing to do to a body and most pitchers aren’t built to hold up past their early-30s. we remember the ones that do because they are the exceptions.
Bald Vinny
AMAZING!! Drury has become a potential star since putting on the pinstripes.
srechter
Yeah, I mean, I’m optimistic about him, but it is pretty wild what happens when a player with potential growth left heads to New York.
meatloaf
Didi and Hicks say hi
Bocephus
AMAZING,you found a Yankees article to try out your material.
Burgeezy
A trade centered around Salazar for Clint Frazier would have been pretty great IMO.
Cuso
RAB represent
LF16
Brandon Drury is underrated.
tonypro7
Brandon Drury is now overrated.
dark vengeance
As a Yankees fan I think Hicks is overrated and won’t be around long term. Might not make it past this summer. Have seen nothing that says he can maintain anything even health over a full season. I’d prefer seeing someone else by the summer or next season.
RyCLa
Ok so let’s get this straight here. Severino an elite pitcher and Severino an ace? LOL Yankees fans do dream a whole lot but never face the truth. What is elite in that team is the bullpen also lineup. Not the starting pitching. Severino is well on his way to becoming potential elite but until he shuts down a lineup in the playoffs for 7 innings he is not elite. Until he starts an all star game he is not elite. Until he carries his team in his back in the playoffs he is not elite. Yes I am a Mets fan and yes I have plenty to say when it comes to pitching because I know what elite is have seen it up close. Give Severino another year because if he goes into this year and does the same as he did last year during the year and goes into the playoffs and shuts the astros down for 7 innings than yes you have gotten your ace and elite.
Mike Angarone
You may want to take another look at what Severino did in the playoffs last year! After the Twins game he was pretty good vs Indians and Astros! As I recall, the RedSox “elite” staff didn’t fair too well against the Astros in the playoffs or against the Yankees, for that matter, in the regular season
BSPORT
Who on the Mets shut down the World Series Champs 2 years in a row in the playoffs to reach your plateau of “Ace” worthiness?
Docbridaman
I gotta agree with you. I’ve been watching this team for a looong time. I know ace pitching when I see it, and I haven’t seen it from this kid yet. He has the skill set, but, so far, I think it’s the mental side of the game that still eludes him. Once he gets that to click, this kid could be scary good.
Docbridaman
I still think that The Yankees should bypass Machado, and sign Mike Moustakas long term. I know Andujar could be a great player. COULD be. But Moustakas is a proven hitter, A plus defender, he’s still young (29), and he’s a left handed power bat! How many of those in the Yankees lineup? You can get Moustakas for less than half what you’d have to pay Machado, keeping plenty of money free to sign a true staff ace. I believe this guy is one of the best 3rd baseman in the league, and all they’d be doing by adding him, is making this, already daunting lineup, that much better.
davidcoonce74
Moustakas is a bed defensive third baseman though, and will have to move to first eventually. He also doesn’t walk and the fluky power spike in 2017 would have to continue for him to keep any of his value. I think part of the reason his market dried up this offseason is directly because of those things.
joeybats19
Hope they get Danny Salazar
RyCLa
Well BSPORT The Who would be Harvey, Degrom and Syndergaard shut down the Giants with MadBum on the mound. So yes when healthy there is no comparison period. Severino has top of the league talent but he had a very good year but he never toyed with the all star starting team like Harvey did and the royals until Terry the idiot Collins screwed it up, or the Giants lineup with the reigning MVP on the lineup like Syndergaard did, or a Dodgers lineup like Degrom did. Or like Harvey did plenty of times to the Nationals before he got hurt. Nobody could get Harper out that year of the MVP meanwhile the entire Mets pitching staff treated him like a minor league hitter. So yeah I do have elite pitching performance experiences as a Mets fan. Last year the Red Sox has one elite pitcher and he just got tired because he dominated the American League including the astros all year long until the playoffs came when he ran out of gas but I don’t think anyone here questions the fact that Chris Sale is Elite and a beast of an ace that any team would dream to have pitching for them including the Mets. My point here is this let’s see Severino grow into a presence in the mound first before we enshrine him into Cooperstown. I like him and I rather not face the Yankees when he pitches because he can shut down the Mets and any other lineup at any given night he has the talent but letbhim do it for longer before he is mentioned in the same sentence as the Kershaw, Sale, Syndergaard and the likes of sort.
BSPORT
You were saying Severino had to do it two years in a row but the trio of Mets you spoke of all only had to do it once, in the playoffs, to a national league lineup not nearly as good as the Astros to reach your “Ace” status. It really doesn’t make a difference who was on the mound for the team they beat but more of how they handle a championship caliber lineup in a big game. I didn’t read the rest because it seams like senseless rambling from a Mets fan before an 80 win season.
RyCLa
Well your comments bsport sound like a sorry loser yankee fan who want to make an argument just so they can make an argument. The Mets sucked last year and if health doesn’t hold up they will stink this year too. If you knew your facts correctly you would make a better argument. Harvey did it for more than one year and this is his last year of control so no it wasn’t one year and Syndergaard this is year 3 and the playoff year it was his year one and a half and still and all if you look at them Syndergaard is scary when he is on the mound and Severino looks like he is not sure and that’s the difference. Yankee fans love to hype their players just because and that’s the entirety of the point. Never did I hate on Severino simply said let him do his thing and dominate in a significant game before we anoint him. The astros the best lineup in baseball hands down but you do know if you are a baseball fan that pitching shuts hitting down? How did altuve look like against Thor? I am just saying go check your facts out before making a weak the Mets stunk last year comment. lol
Cardinals17
As a Yankee Fan along with being a Cardinal Fan, the Yankees are solid where they are now. With talented back ups in the minor leagues. They don’t need Machado and his big salary. On the other hand, the Cardinals could definitely use Machado and could afford him. The infield of J. Martinez at first, Carpenter at second, DeJong at Short, Machado at third sounds rather appealing!!!