The Rays have lost a second highly touted pitching prospect to a torn ulnar collateral ligament, as Marc Topkin of the Tampa Bay Times reports that right-hander Jose De Leon is headed for Tommy John surgery (Twitter link). Fellow right-hander Brent Honeywell, widely regarded as Tampa Bay’s best all-around prospect, underwent Tommy John earlier this spring.
Acquired last offseason in a straight-up swap for infielder Logan Forsythe, De Leon was thought to be a near-MLB-ready asset at the time of the trade. However, De Leon battled a flexor strain and tendinitis in his elbow for much of the 2017 season and was ultimately limited to just 41 innings on the season as a whole — 38 1/3 frames in Triple-A plus another 2 2/3 innings at the big league level. Now, with today’s news, the Rays won’t have the opportunity to reap much benefit from that trade until 2019, at the earliest.
While the Rays have an enviable stock of MLB-caliber arms on the precipice of breaking into the Majors, there’s no question that the team’s pitching depth has taken a massive hit in recent weeks. The Rays felt comfortable enough with their depth to trade righty Jake Odorizzi to the Twins in a move that looks to have been largely motivated by finances, and in the three brief weeks since that trade they’ve lost both Honeywell and De Leon — effectively removing three rotation candidates from their roster in under a month’s time.
Tampa Bay will open the season with Chris Archer, Nathan Eovaldi, Blake Snell and Jake Faria in a four-man rotation, with Matt Andriese reportedly likely to jump in as a fifth starter after a few weeks. (The early schedule affords enough off days that Andriese can be used as a multi-inning reliever in the interim.) If Faria can build off an impressive rookie season (3.43 ERA, 8.7 K/9, 3.2 BB/9 in 86 2/3 innings) and Snell can continue at the pace he showed in a very strong second half of the 2017 season (3.49 ERA, 8.6 K/9, 2.9 BB/9), then the Rays still boast a solid mix of starters even with the recent rash of injuries.
Beyond that quintet, the Rays still have lefties Anthony Banda and Ryan Yarbrough in addition to righty Yonny Chirinos waiting in the wings at Triple-A. Nonetheless, Tampa Bay is considerably less equipped to handle a major injury (or injuries) in the rotation now than it was at the onset of Spring Training. The organization no doubt has Double-A arms that can move up to step into the Triple-A vacancies, though it certainly wouldn’t be a surprise to see them pursue some additional veteran depth from outside the organization after losing both De Leon and Honeywell for the year.
nste23
Rays are just getting torn up
Padres2019ha
Eek. Time to trade Archer for some pitching prospects
bravesfan
Braves got a couple waiting. But they need to stop over valuing archer at a Chris sale type lvl. He’s worth maybe 1 elite pitching prospect and roughly 2 other top 30 organizational prospect. If that
One Fan
Well said Braves fan. I wish others understood that Archer is not an ace
ronnsnow
I feel so bad for all 5000 Rays fans. The last 4 months have been a nightmare.
woodguy
Lmao
Slipknot37
Damn, their pitching depth just keeps getting hit.
soxfan1
Twins staff must feel accomplished
hatstotheleft
Two years ago Jose De Leon was a top 20 prospect & Julio Urias was top 5, where are they now? Never put too much in pitching prospects.
Kenleyfornia74
And thats why the Dodgers wanted to trade him while his value was high. Which they did.
Flubby
Not sure a return of Logan Forsyth should be considered a “high value” return
Kenleyfornia74
For the season he came off of it was. His poor 2017 didn’t exist when the deal was made.
All Baseball No Xabial
It was better than De Leon’s season! That’s called a “win” in trades.
mcdusty31
Plenty of pitchers get injured and/or have TJ surgery these days, I wouldn’t write off those two just yet…especially Urias he’s still only 22 years old
BlueSkyLA
True, but it also has to be said that Urias’ injury was considerably more serious, and the surgery to correct it much less routine. He has youth going for him but if he does return to where he left off some time this season it will be a major comeback story.
leprechaun
When was Urias traded and to who?
czontixhldr
TINSTAAPP!
hatstotheleft
Two years ago Jose De Leon was a top 20 prospect & Julio Urias was top 5, where are they now? Never put too much in pitching prospects.
ef1t
you can say that again.
wiggysf
And they did.
twins33
I wish no ill will towards JDL and hope he heals quickly and does well upon his return, but I’m even more glad the Twins didn’t trade for him. This type of bad luck is so Twins-ish.
Kenleyfornia74
Twins could have traded Dozier for him. That would have been very bad
twins33
Exactly. I’m glad they held their ground, even though I liked JDL.
I was always firmly against a 1-1 trade, which it may or may have not been. Either way this would have been a massive blow to lose Dozier and get basically nothing out of JDL for two years.
phantomofdb
Yeah Twins definitely were right to not pull the trigger on that trade.
yanks02026
Never want injuries on players but sounds it like Karma is coming around to the Rays for how they treated this offseason.
joparx
Ha, the mlb is about to lose Florida completely from baseball fandom, both teams are jokes
ducksnort69
You realize the Rays just signed a billion dollar TV deal & the Marlins have a brand new stadium that they’re contracted too right?
Robert Kuzmins
Once again another misinformed comment from a misinformed fan……Both teams are reorganizing in the right way…..like the Royala,Astros and Cubs did…….
Ungerdog
thank you. there is a dearth of informed comments on this site. it seems like the most vocal are the least informed.
norcalblue
Best wishes to JDL and the Rays.
ThePriceWasRight
now the move to a four man rotation is making more sense. We don’t really have depth just haven’t announced all our injuries yet. hopefully we can avoid more TJs by having out starters only pitch 3 innings at a time.
xkeiserx24
I wound hate to be a rays fan, the couple dozen of them anyway. Trading the face of the franchise in Longoria, not signing Morrison/Duda. Cutting Dickerson and then trading Souza. Then Honeywell/ de Leon tj surgery’s. What a horrible winter for a team that wasn’t that far away from the playoffs last year.
mehcky
As one of the “dozen” Rays fans… Longoria was a good baseball trade as was Souza. I hate how they treatd Dickerson but he was horrifically awful the second half of last season. No real need to resign Morrison/Duda since Bauers will be up after the service clock window opens this season. The tommy johns suck..but its part of the game. Looking forward to seeing the kids up later in the year 🙂
cxcx
Now the four-man rotation everyone is criticizing is looking even stupider..seven-man rotation or bust.
darenh
Brutal.
snotrocket
Dodgers could have gotten a huge return for Urias a couple years ago. Swihart-esque.
Kenleyfornia74
Like who Cole Hamels, David Price? No one is kicking themselves over missing out on a couple of declining overpaid players.
fasbal1
Didn’t he pitch for Pirates and Cardinals like 25 yrs ago
hiflew
Same name, different guy. I assumed this was a joke, but on the Internet…you never know.
Sideline Redwine
Rays may lose 100 games this year. Unless Cash manages the whole year…then it could be 110. Something is not right w all the injuries suffered by guys in this organization.
ducksnort69
I don’t think the injuries are the “not right with this organization” problem, it’s the way it’s run top down. After Friedman & Maddon left, the org fell into decline. Hickey leaving was the final nail.
JA L.
Feel bad for JDL and the Rays. However, I am very thankful the Twins didn’t acquire him and what else was it rumored, like Brock Stewart for Brian Dozier. Like I said at the time, Dozier would be one of the best players on the Dodgers. Happy to have him still in Minnesota.
Kenleyfornia74
Dozier would be the 4th best hitter on the Dodgers which is probably lower then he would be on most other teams
jbigz12
At the time of that trade Cody Bellinger was nothing but a prospect. Only Seager would’ve qualified as a better player. Maybe Justin turner but that could’ve gone either way.
Kenleyfornia74
Dont get me wrong i thought JDL for Dozier was a lowball offer. But trading one of Verdugo Bellinger Buehler made no sense on the Dodgers part.
fisher40
I have them pegged for at least 100 loses