As the Mets have now managed to check off their most pressing needs at fairly reasonable prices, some attention has turned to the question whether the organization might now go on to spend on a starter. GM Sandy Alderson noted that “some opportunities arose for us that probably would not have been expected right after the end of the World Series,” as James Wagner of the New York Times reports. Given the noted health questions for the talented Mets pitching staff, the thinking goes, perhaps the team will look to score some rotation value and thrust itself into clear contention status. To this point, though, the Mets “have yet to engage in meaningful discussions” with free agent hurlers Lance Lynn and Alex Cobb, according to Ken Rosenthal of The Athletic (Twitter links). Rather, the focus seems still to be on finding some pitching depth.
More from the division…
- At a recent Nationals Hot Stove event, GM Mike Rizzo plainly stated that, as things presently stand, right-hander A.J. Cole is his team’s fifth starter (link via TalkNats.com). “Our number five starter, you know, is A.J. Cole which I’m really looking forward to seeing where he’s at this year,” said Rizzo. “If you look at his numbers last year, his last seven starts were outstanding. He pitched in eleven games last year in the big leagues with eight starts and had a 3.81 ERA… Look at the other teams in our division. See where that ERA ranks on those other staffs.” Of course, fielding-independent metrics like FIP, xFIP and SIERA all pegged Cole north of 5.00, due largely to a 4.7 BB/9 rate and a pedestrian 7.6 K/9 mark. One would think, too, that a strong Spring Training effort from someone such as Austin Voth or Erick Fedde could impact that plan, as could the addition of an arm via free agency or trade. At present, though, it’s certainly noteworthy that the job is Cole’s to lose. Cole figures to make the roster in some capacity, as he’s out of minor league options.
- Jon Jay “appears to be a consideration” for the Marlins in free agency, FanRag’s Jon Heyman writes in his latest notes column. Jay has some local ties, having played his college ball at Miami, though it’s not entirely clear at this point how much the Marlins are willing to spend. Heyman suggests that their payroll is south of the $85MM mark at present, though between the commitments to Wei-Yin Chen ($10MM salary + $8MM deferred signing bonus payment this June), Martin Prado ($13.5MM), Starlin Castro ($10MM), Brad Ziegler ($9MM), Junichi Tazawa ($7MM), Derek Dietrich ($2.9MM), Justin Bour ($3.4MM), J.T. Realmuto ($2.9MM) and Miguel Rojas ($1.18MM) they’re at nearly $68MM. Add in the $13MM they owe Edinson Volquez, the remaining unresolved arb case of Dan Straily and a slate of pre-arbitration players to round out the roster, and it’d seem they’re still north of $90MM.
- Heyman also notes that the Braves would add a third baseman if they can find a match on a one-year deal, but they’re comfortable using Johan Camargo there for a year while waiting for prospect Austin Riley to finish off his development in the upper minors. More generally, he adds that they’re looking more at “depth” signings than anything else at this point of the offseason.
jb19
For some reason I remember the Astros rebuild going much better, not as painful. Much easier to handle. But it’s probably just bc of the World Series. Hang in there marlins fans. Going to be a rough couple years.
sidewinder11
Houston was the worst team in baseball for about 3 years. It was pretty dreadful. It may have seemed shorter because they switched leagues (bringing new uniforms and new opponents) in the middle of all that, which gave fans a jolt that they normally wouldn’t have gotten in the middle of a rebuild
HalfAstros7
It really was dreadful.
jb19
I just think it’s recency bias. Sometimes I will hear a name, like Lucas Harrel or Rick Ankiel, and just cringe. We were so terrible.
brucewayne
I wish the Cards would trade for Bour
brucewayne
and Straily ! Help Miami’s budget
bigkempin
The Astros didn’t have a $300M contract to get rid of and this the 1st year of the Marlins rebuild. The Astros fielded a AAA team for 3 years in a row…..
jb19
Based on this article, the marlins can’t sign Jon Jay due to budget constraints…. so marlins will be fielding a AAA team, plus Starlin Castro for at least 1 year.
DVail1979
Hey when healthy Martin Prada can play … and Realmuto and Bour … after them it’s anybody’s guess
TradeAcuna
Exciting new information about the Braves as per usual. They still have #1 farm system though right?
RunDMC
And #1 fans
czontixhldr
Hardly, you didn’t fill Turner Field during playoff games.
stephentr
#1 fans on the MLBTR pages.
mj-2
Best move Braves can make is to do nothing right now
EndinStealth
Their farm is better than the ChiSox? serious question.
chrisones
Yup. Much deeper.
Frank kemble
The Marlins signing a decent free agent this off season…that’s funny. Jay actually signing to play in miami… Now that’s funnier. Lol
andrewgauldin
How? How many other teams are looking for a 4th outfielder, and how many of them are still free agents? I wouldn’t be surprised if Jay or Dyson goes to Miami
HayMazer
Or both. They could put up career numbers..
And be trade bait for playoffs.
fasbal1
Jay saved Cubs last year, his obp was considerably higher than anyone else batting leadoff before him, Shcwarber and Zobrist..he played a bunch as a 4th of
steelerbravenation
What about Neil Walker for 3rd ??? My thing is this lineup needs power and if Camargo plays 3rd then it’s gotta come from the OF and unless they move Markakis then adding a power bat will slow down Acuna’s debut which I wouldn’t mind him staying half the year in the minors.
I say sign Neil Walker & let Camargo be the super utility guy. Then sign CarGo and by the deadline move him or Markakis or even both and bring up Acuna.
I really hope they don’t do him like they did Heyward & he gets enough development time.
brucewayne
Trade for Prado from Miami. He’s well liked in Atlanta
brucewayne
and can be had for a lotto ticket!
SoCalBrave
he has 2 years remaining for too much money. Not going to happen. They could have signed Tod Frazier for less and the same amount if years.
steelerbravenation
Frazier is from Jersey he obviously took a hometown discount so he would have definitely cost more money & more years to have gone to Atlanta so no they couldn’t have had him.
Also Prado is owed too much money but if Marlins would pay some down I wouldn’t mind it.
I still feel Headley at 1 year with Padres paying some salary is the best option.
iamhector24
Did someone just say the Mets got someone on a “hometown discount”? No one wants to play for us. We have to pay like 20% more as a “we aren’t the Yankees” tax.
RunDMC
Heyward and development? He had an amazing start that was hampered by early, nagging injuries. If anything hurt his early development, it was nagging injuries.
mj-2
Heywards development didn’t suffer because of injuries, it suffered because he had no idea how to make adjustments.
And he hasn’t learned at that. Typical guy who breezed through the other levels based on raw talent but when he got challenged for the first time in his life at the MLB level he couldn’t adjust because he never had to in the past.
You could see it coming a mile away with him.
chrisones
I disagree. Heyward never could learn discipline…but he always had that as an attribute in the minors. He didn’t learn to hit (or lay off) breaking stuff.
Deivi bastardo
Los bravo deben esperar al próximo año y firmar 2 agente libres de elite
thegreatcerealfamine
Another day another account…
Mattimeo09
¿Que?
Caseys.Partner
The Mets have no legit MLB starter at 1B, catcher, 2B or SS. CF is mediocre to begin the season and 3B is as well for the duration.
That’s a team that should either be lining up to buy both Bryce Harper and Manny Machado next winter or be in full rebuild mode.
Open a browser tab at Baseball-Reference and look at the Mets Franchise history. Now do the same in another tab for the Phillies. What’s past is prologue. 50 years of history says the Mets are just dragging this out for another year and then they will announce their rebuild and sink hard to the bottom of the division as the Phillies ascend. For 50 years this has always been how it is, the Phillies and Mets always pass one another in the standings, one on the way up and one on the way down.
Free Clay Zavada
But why do you still comment here?
Cat Mando
Because he has been banned for almost all baseball sites and no one reads his blog.
BlueJayFan1515
Another gem.
limjaheytrailerparksupervisor
Saying the mets don’t have legit starters at those positions and then saying they should go all in on machado and harper next year makes no sense. 1: like all teams mets have a budget to maintain so signing those 2 guys is not gonna happen espically with their positions occupied for the next few seasons on the Mets and 2: if your interested in such a superstar team I suggest you just watch the all star game in a few months. It’s pointless just like your post.
padam
@Casey – what are you talking about? Rosario was a BA top 10 prospect going into last year, Cabrera put up decent numbers, Walker does most things well but BA, and D’Arnaud is ok offensively and one of the best framers in MLB.
And where did the Mets/Phills accent/decent come from?
Bill
Walker?
nymetsking
walker sounds so similar to Frazier. maybe that’s what he said but we couldn’t understand his accent.
mikeyank55
Hey padam, how about the glass half full side;
Rosario player in Vegas, home of over inflated offensive stats. Mets have zero patience on development and will yank the kids chain as they have done to so many others.
Cabrera is a prima dona me first player on the downside of his career.
Walker is not a starting quality player. The team is weak up the middle.
I love your overly optimistic darneau being “one of the best framers in the business”. He is an open invitation to steal and crate havoc on the base paths as he rolls the ball to second.
jakem59
Nothing wrong with Brandon Nimmo/Juan Lagares at CF, Frazier at 3B, Cabrera a 2nd, AGon/Flores/Smith at 1st, yeah not great but not terrible and D’Arnaud/Plawcki aren’t great offensively but both can play passable defense and are better than average pitch framers, which is what you want from the catcher spot. Plus, Roasrio at SS, I’d take that any day of the week.
iamhector24
The Mets have one of the best prospects in baseball at SS and Cabrera is a fine player. He’s not going to make an all star team but he’s a “legit major league player”. I’m a Mets fan and I’m REALLY HARD on them but if you’re going to talk you should at least know what you’re talking about.
Coast1
I feel like we’ll be reading these articles into August, “The Mets are looking at Lance Lynn again but have made no formal offer. Considering they are 20 games out of first place, they might not.”
These teams have no sense of urgency. If the guy is too expensive for you, you aren’t kicking the tires. If he isn’t, make an offer and sign hi.
jakec77
If the Mets have the budget for another pitcher, I think it makes more sense to go after another reliever rather than a starter.
If you assume Degrom and Synndergaard will both be really good, then between what they have in house and maybe adding a veteran or two on minor league contracts the rotation should be fine; if you assume one or the other is hurt or ineffective, then they are screwed whether they add a Lance Lynn or not.
Only way they should add a starter is if they get someone at a deep discount or a one year pillow contract that is just too good to pass up.
hojostache
The Mets need to fill 3 spots (4 if you believe the report they are going 6 starters) with a bunch of question marks. Matz is most likely to gab one. Then it is one of Harvey/Wheeler and Gsellman/Lugo. Best case scenario they get 5.5. Slotting in Lynn/Cobb or maybe Cashner lets another SP get bumped to RP where their stuff can play up. Adding a reliever just puts more pressure on the question marks to perform.
mikeyank55
Hey Hojo. What is your June 1st an when “Agon” is a gone, Reyes crawls out of the gate and guys like Matz are still in Florida trying to get healthy?
tomrantmore
Question marks no doubt but with Callaway a pitching guy coming in you have to have faith he’ll turn St least one of those guys around.
Also, I’ll love and hate it, if Harvey is healthy he’ll have a really good season with an expiring contract, then someone will overpay him next off-season (Boras client).
Backatitagain
Braves need to trade for Jose Ramirez CLE or Martin Gonzalez HOU.
mlb1225
A.) Indians would not trade Jose Ramirez right now.
B.) *Marwin Gonzalez, also will not be traded.
C.) The Braves wouldn’t trade for either of them because they already have a future plan at 3rd. At most, they’d trade for a guy to bridge the gap for their prospects.
strosbro96
That’s funny if you think either of those players are available.
nymetsking
clearly not them, but maybe Aredano or Bryant?
mlb1225
What happened to Joe Ross? Is he still hurt, or is just not an option?
kbarr888
Pretty sure that he had TJS last summer….not sure on the date.
mlb1225
I forgot it was TJ surgery.
lettersandnumbersonly
i’d expect Ross to be getting back around the all-star break and ne slowly worked back into the rotation if the Nats are struggling with either Cole or Fedde. not considering potential other injuries/regression from any of the other starting 4. keep in mind, Scherzer had neck issues last year, Strasburg almost always has some kind of ailment, Gio pitched a little over his head and Roark regressed a little, could be related to his WBC duties missing a lot of spring training. would really have liked the Nats to have gone after Lynn but i realize its expensive in picks given up and loss of int’l pool monies in addition to the salary. but his innings eating and solid pitching really could have been a diference maker this year. have to hope Eaton and Murphy come back strong from injuries and Harper has an MVP like last year before free agency
fireboss
John Heyman, telling people what anyone paying attention has known for months and acting like it’s news.
He was slapped down on Twitter by Josh Donaldson today for writing insider information about the next contract Bringer of Rain wants, all of which Donaldson flatly denies on multiple levels.
Heyman’s rapidly becoming a joke.
One Fan
He gas been a joke for awhile
stymeedone
Jay may be on the Marlins radar, but I wonder if the Marlins are on his?
Braves Homer
Hey Trade Rumors love the app but…Can you please not give us Braves fans anymore ‘updates’ on what they’re not going to do?! It’s not your fault the Braves don’t do anything impactful besides NBA style
salary dumps and there is noting to write about, but it gives us a quick second of hope that is disappointing every time we tap Braves news…that’d be great, thanks. Ha!
iamhector24
I’m a Mets fan… I feel your pain. At least you won the division 14 straight years and have a plan moving forward lol.