As spring camps begin to open around the league, J.D. Martinez is among the prominent free agents who is still trying to work out his next contract. It has long been supposed that he and the Red Sox have been engaged in a staredown, with the team sitting on a five-year, $125MM offer and Martinez’s camp searching for more.
The latest reports indicate that is not quite an accurate picture …
- The Red Sox’ current top offer to Martinez is “in the vicinity” of only $100MM, according to Alex Speier of the Boston Globe. That’s quite a lot less than has generally been stated, and certainly paints a different picture of the present state of affairs for the market’s top slugger. While the Sox are still smitten with Martinez, Speier writes, the organization is also not particularly interested in running up its bid when demand from other teams is questionable. The article discusses the broader opportunity that Boston may have on a still-dragging market, given its willingness to move past the luxury tax line in a winter where others are declining to do so.
- Of course, demand can have a way of forming to fill vacuums, and Martinez and his reps at the Boras Corporation are no doubt hoping that’ll occur over the coming weeks. The Diamondbacks are, notably, still working on creative means of bringing Martinez back into the fold, per Jon Heyman of Fan Rag. That could mean broaching the idea of a shorter deal with a big annual salary and opt-out opportunities, Heyman suggests, though the details of any offers to this point remain hazy. Such a pact might ameliorate concerns with locking into another massive, long-term entanglement, though it’d cut down on the upside for the team and would no doubt still require a big jump in payroll (or further creativity in the form of shedding other contracts). Whatever the details, though, Heyman says there’s some added optimism on the Arizona side that the team could have a real shot at pulling off a surprise deal.
That’s still the top offer out there. Hard to see the D-backs coming up with the money to beat anything the Red Sox can offer him.
I’m 99 percent sure the dbacks plan revolves around a 1 year deal for pry 25-30 mil.
That would suck for him. The Diamondbacks can offer him a QO and hurt his value a bit. Right now, there is no compensation attached to him.
Great point on that. I’m sure that’s something his agent would forget to point out, that a one year deal with AZ opens himself up to having a QO attached to him next year. Can’t see that helping him any at all.
A player can sign a contract with a clause that prevents the application of the QO, and I’m sure he would seek that if he were willing to take a one year deal.
No he can’t. Forbidden in the current CBA
He was traded mid season. Players traded during season can’t receive a qualifying offer for that offseason.
Hey Josh…it’s ok to let redsoxu571 make up his own rules. It’s part of their fans DNA.
Just like it’s ok to steal signs and use an Apple Watch, right?
A little salty aren’t ya that your team didn’t figure out an Apple watch is much more effective at sending signs than a 3rd base coach using hand signals lol
Thats career suicide on JD’s end. He’s be going back into the market next year with the Harper and machado… he thinks the offers aren’t there now???
If anything, I would think he could earn more next year…given the machado harper class. Clearly teams are trying to save money to make a run at these elite talents. The money will be there next year. Large market teams will not sit out to free agent classes. Imagine the fan base outrage?
If I were him I would sign a deal with an opt out after one year. He gives up some money on last few years, but in essensance that forgone money is an insurance premium. Injury or non career year, he keeps current deal. If he has a big year, opt out and let one of the losers of the machado/harper sweepstakes over pay with that saved up money
How is taking 25-30 million dollars career suicide in any field?
Thank you. An intelligent question.
But then wouldn’t that mean he’s a FA next year and that would mean he’s up against Harper and others?? Would that matter?
I think the logic is that teams that miss out on Harper or Machado will overpay for JD to show their fans they did something.
By that same logic we would have teams overpaying players left and right, so Arrieta bound to get more than Yu, just so a contender shows they did something?
Not by overpaying. JDM is a talent but only on offense and there is no way Machado and Harper bring up the rest. That’s exactly the thinking that the owners are ridding themselves of. they are value driven and he adds nothing on defense.
I do not think it would matter as I do not think that he is in the same class as those two superstars. Those two guys will be seeking $300-$400 million or so. It actually may make JD’s demands look cheap. Lol
30 years ago, that strategy would have worked…..but today’s GM’s are just not that gullible. They’ll still only pay whatever they feel is the right price.
There are so many quality players graduating from the minors right now, it’s sick. Players are “playing longer”…..but there hasn’t been any “new slots opened up”…..so we still have 750 active slots for 30 teams.
More are arriving than leaving the game.
Harper is NOT leaving DC….Baltimore clearly doesn’t want to pay Machado though but realistically who is going to take his $200+ MM contract he’s going to ask for? Yankees seem content on staying below the luxury tax threshold…..Boston? They got that Sandoval albatross I still I don’t know when that’s off the books….The Cubs? Maybe…..my point is there is also pricing yourself out the market these aren’t cheap contracts
Not a smart Move to come back and get into next years free-agent class. He’ll probably end up doing even worse at that point going against who’s out there in 2019!
Why would Martinez ever want to enter FA again in a year that is ABSOLUTELY loaded like next year? He is signing with the Red Sox! He knows it, the Red Sox know it, Boras knows it, hell everybody knows it. He is just trying to milk every last cent out of Dombrowski.
Let him walk. That is a bad signing waiting to happen.
The Dbacks are said to be offering a deal for 4 years with an opt out after 2018. Just a guess that the deal would be more than the $25 million AAV that the Red Sox offered. Early on in the process, several writers wrote that they felt Martinez would not accept a deal for less than $27.5 million the AAV that Cespedes got. I think a 4/110 deal with an opt out after 2018 or a 1/30 deal gets him in a Dbacks uniform.
Arizona doesn’t have the money! They either sign Martinez now and are forced to let Goldschmidt walk or they pass on Martinez and sign Goldschmidt, they don’t have the money to do both.
He’d be shooting himself in the foot to take a one year deal. Next year he would not be alone at the top of the pile. Darvish’s $126m 6yr contract has set the market. He was the top pitcher in the market and probably didn’t want to go up against Kershaw and several others next year. Martinez would be in that same boat! He should be talking about the rumored $112m for 5yrs with an opt out, for either side in two years, and if neither opts our, the deal goes 4 more years at $25m per. If he’s as good as he was last year and the Sox continue getting into playoff games, both sides would be very happy.
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So alas the “fish story” has declined from $200M (in November) to now maybe as little as $100M.
Your guess is as good as mine?
6/$108M?
5/100. That’s what I’m guessing the Sox’s initial bid was, and it probably hasn’t changed.
I doubt 6 at 108 million gets it done. That amounts to 18 million per year and he is just worth more than that.
Not so fast. He is worth less than that.
More than that? With his (lack of) defensive skills?
He thinks he’s worth more than that. He’s only worth what any given team is willing to pay him. At the moment that’s the Red Sox by themselves in a multi year sense and AZ on a short term deal. Why would Boston ever cut their throat and bid against themselves when there are no other teams willing to pay him anything?
LOL I wish you we’re a bidder when I sell guitars on eBay! No telling how much I could make. I might think the ax is worth $800, but the highest bid is $500, and then you come along and offer $1200! Things would sure change on eBay!!
The reports were a 5 yr deal between $20-$25 per
5/125 and it was confirmed by DD.
No, it wasn’t. The Red Sox offer is said to “be in the area of 5/$100 million”.
Speier said it was probably in the area of 5/100. I posted 4 links including one to DD’s interview on MLB Network Radio that confirm the 5/125, but it says awaiting moderation.
Poor silver spooned Alex, if he isn’t picking on some poor little girl – whom I.heard Alex has always aspired to become -then he’s getting twisted sadistic rumors while getting worked over by some rough play biker types. Not too worrry, even when he’s completely wrong on his leads and scoops, Daddy Speir s will just by a new paper, magazine, radio or TV station so the apple of his eye can keep on making a hot mess of. things, at least he’ll be the boss and wont suspend or fire himself.
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DD already confirmed the 5/125 to reporters earlier. I think one of two things are in play. JDM wants more years at that AAV or he wants a $27.5 million AAV with that many years. Or both.
So confirmed Boras mouthpiece Heyman is trying to drum up a market for Boras client JD when one likely does not exist. No NL team in their right mind would sign JD.
seriously. i feel like all the “OH the Dbacks are still in play” stories are plants by Boras. As far as i can tell, the Dbacks have absolutley NO desire to balloon payroll even more.
A playoff run to the NLDS is worth $40 million. Make the WS and its worth $80+. Win the WS and it worth more. I am sure that signing JDM is at the top of the Dbacks list if they can do it on a shorter term than 5+ years. Their window is now.
Not at 25 MM per when Goldschmidt is going to get at least $30 to 35 MM per….Goldschmidt is priority and JDM is secondary
The Diamondbacks, an NL team, traded away prospects to get him last season, so obviously, they valued him. That they have confirmed that they are still in negotiations for him indicates that at least one NL team would sign him if they can.
Not if you had Matt Kemp for 2yrs. Doesn’t JDM’s production make up for his below average defense? He is a hitter that would look pretty good in most team’s lineup!
I really want his bat for the Sox, but thought 5/125 was too steep. When I saw what Darvish got, I thought that it was a missed opportunity to say to JDM that he wasn’t getting more than Darvish under any circumstances. If it’s true that the Sox have only offered something around $100 M (who knows, that report has gone back and forth over time), then I’d be happy to negotiate between there and what Darvish got. Given that the Sox will pay tax on every penny of it, 6 at a $21M AAV would be a lot cheaper for them than 5 at $25M would end up being.
The best part of this is the Redsox will lose out on him in the end. This will be a Cespedes situation and the Redsox will be left over paying to Eric Hosmer or winding up with Logan Morrison. No offense to either player but the Redsox need a 40 hr guy in the middle of that lineup. If they lose out on Martinez they have no other options.
Morrison isn’t a bad idea regardless of what happens with Martinez.
Who cares. The Yank!ees still have to go through Boston with an unproven coach roster and outfield.
The Sux lineup scares nobody. And Boston has a “proven” manager? Come on
Who are the Yank!ees, what is a “coach roster,” and who actually thinks the real Yankees have an unproven outfield of all things?
Robert Doyle Are you just trolling or just not that knowledgeable about the sport? Unproven roster and outfield? What? They didn’t lose any major pieces. This is pretty much the same roster that went to the ALCS. Gardner, Stanton, and Judge are their starting outfielders. How is that an unproven outfield? The Red Sox manager has zero experience as a manager as well. Not sure if you have been paying attention this offseason but Farrel was fired. If anything Boston has to go through the Yankees. Winning the division against your top rival dosen’t mean as much if that team gets a wildcard spot and goes on to get deeper into the postseason then you while you get sent home after winning only one playoff game.
Hosiery is better player for Beaners
I hope they get Morrison.
Why would the Red Sox overpay for Hosmer when there’s like a 99% chance they wont sign him now that they reup’d Mitch Moreland for 2 years? Hosmer is not a power bat, so he’s off the radar. They’re either going to get JDM for what they offered or a little more, or focus their efforts on LoMo and hope last year wasn’t some flash in the pan for him.
And with Hanley’s shoulder being fixed, there’s a possibility he returns to something approaching his 2016 form. I’d be fine if the Sox fielded the same team as last year, as what their rotation does is more of a concern to me than whether every slumping play from last year continues to slump again.
Boston isn’t going to sign Hosmer, period. “Boston will overpay him” was something that Boston haters wanted from the start off the offseason, and it was never in the cards.
Cespedes was a headache in Boston. He refused to play right. They were never going to resign him and got Porcello. Basically it became Lester for Porcello. Not a wise move but that’s another story. You can’t win every trade. You just don’t compound one mistake with another. Personally, I wanted Frazier as I’m Leary that Devers will take a step backwards. I hope I’m wrong. The kid has so much talent but he’s not read on defense to play third fulltime.
Yankeeaddiction, Are you that clueless? Why would they over pay for Hosmer, a guy they have no interest in? They have Hanley and Moreland at 1B/DH and much cheaper FA option in L. Morrison.
skankee cheater. .. please graduate high school before u talk. .. learn critical thinking ..
a team is not one player … Martinez is a huge gamble over large dollars to an older guy with only about 3 years of over performance … owners are awaking to the fact that past performance does not reassure future performance. .. and the team is likely then stuck with a Retirement player with way over paid wages and subpar performance. .. to a limited skill set before he even gets signed…. a fools bargain
YOU SKANKEES HAVE BEEN RAPING AND CHEATING BASE BALL FOR YEARS WITH BUYING CHAMPIOSHIPS … NOT ONE EARNED … THE FIX IS IN WHEN U BUY OFF PLAYERS FROM LOWER MARKET CLUBS
Devers has shown power since being called up….I know he’s unproven but he did hit what 8 or 9 from being called up at the end of last year. I’m willing to say he’s going to hit 30 he’s going to have to and the Sox needs JDM to protect this kid. That was one reason the Yankees went and got Stanton. First of all Jeter gave Cashman a damn discount there’s zero doubt in my mind about that, if there was ever a possibility of tampering anywhere it’s in that trade it doesn’t smell right to me. But that doesn’t matter now what’s done is done the reason the Yankees wanted Stanton was so teams wouldn’t pitch around Judge. Boston needs another big bat to go with Devers so he doesn’t get pitched around
No offense to Arizona, but I’d wanna play for the Sox over the D Backs. Boras is clearly holding up this market. I doubt the Cubs would have signed Darvish already if he was repped by Boras.
It would also explain the lack of dialog between Arrieta and the Cubs.
Yep, but it worked out. The Cubs got their top choice on a great AAV. No chance that happens if Boras was his rep. I wonder how many of his clients aren’t happy with him right now.
What is JDM doing. The best offer he is going to get is by the Sox’s and he knows it
Get it done DD!!
Dbacks offer 5 years, $101M front loaded- 28/28/15/15/15, with opt out after year 2.
He gets 28M per for two years, opts out and tries again after next years class, and dbacks can still sign Goldy. If he gets injured he just rides the 15M annual guarantee, and it doesn’t cripple them.
Idk..
might as well just offer him 2 years 56 million
Well that’s effectively what it would be in JD’s best case, but it offers him insurance against the unpredictable. It’s probably unrealistic, idk.. Just playing what if.
I’d be surprised if he gets a better contract then what the Red Sox are offering.
I think the Sox need to withdraw offer and see how season goes. JD might end up as a useless carl crawford type on the dodgers!!!!!!!
I know the market is different this year, but man this guy seems like he’s always pushing a boulder up a hill.
Redsox will have atleast 5 30 homerun producers this year. benny bogie hanley betts maybe devers or jr!!
HaHaHa GTFO
It’s unlikely, but not out of the realm of possibility, especially if the juiced ball returns and Boston adjusts for it.
Devers could easily do it.
Betts did it a year ago, so obviously he can do it.
Ramirez and Bradley are both capable (though not much more, to be sure) in an “on” year.
That means either Benintendi or Bogaerts would need to tap into their considerable hitting/contact skills and just have a great fly ball season. Again, unlikely, but not even close to impossible.
“GTFO” should be reserved for the ridiculous. RD’s claim, stretch that it is, was not ridiculous. Betts, Benintendi, Bogaerts, and Devers are all PREMIUM talents, Ramirez is an aging former premium talent, and Bradley is flawed but actually does have power. Nothing ridiculous about it.
Heck, I think with their current roster Boston is more likely to have 4+ 30 home run guys than even a single 40 home run guy.
More like 4, 25-30 homer guys in the line-up. Benny, Betts, Hanley, and Devers.
Yankeeaddiction, Are you that clueless? Why would they over pay for Hosmer, a guy they have no interest in? They have Hanley and Moreland at 1B/DH and much cheaper FA option in L. Morrison.
MLB,
You forget Moreland played 2 months with a broken to and hit 20 bombs, Bogaerts played most of the season with a sore wrist and hit only 10 Hrs, Benintendi was a 20-20 player as a rookie and Devers hit 10 bombs in 222 and. So the Sox could have easily have 6 guys with 25 or more Homeruns – Betts, Bradley, Benintendi, Moreland, Hanley, Boggy and Devers. With Possibly Betts and Hanley being the only 2 from the group to hit 30 bombs.
Honestly, JD had a nice little career going into 2017, but probably never figured he’d ever get a $100M deal…so after a monster second half in 2017 Boras dubs him “king Kong” and starts throwing around $200M…sure, the market is slower than expected and the FA contracts are down, but really- anything north of 5/$100 for JD Martinez was a pipe dream 8 months ago
Didn’t he only recently switch to Boras?
His old agent probably told him what his real market was while Boras told him $200 million.
Does anyone really think he will hit in Boston with Hanram hitting behind him? … not!
How dare they offer him chump change to work. Right now he is hanging with Sprewell who is advising him to just chill and not take the chump change. By the way does anyone have some change to spare for Sprewell?
Who is giving this a down vote? I hadn’t even thought of that, but Spree and his infamous “feed the family” comment is the perfect citation for this situation.
I think is clear the RS are out of the picture. If they wanted him, they would’ve got him a while ago. Perhaps he does not want to be a full DH? This article is just to give him leverage. Boston is out fellas.
I think it’s 100% clear that Boston is the only serious contender in the picture, and that Martinez simply wants more than even the best offer from the only team giving him a big offer. Hence why Boston is hanging around and Martinez isn’t signing.
Let’s not overcomplicate this, eh?
I highly doubt Boston is out of the playoff race, even if they don’t land JDM, they still have Betts, Benintendi, Bogaerts, Devers, Vazquez, Sale, Pomeranz, and Kimbrel. Price, Hanley, and Porcello could have bounceback seasons. When Pedroia returns from the DL, that will further solidify their line-up as well.
maybe he should just sign
“…willingness to move past the luxury tax line…”
The ONLY way DD can be effective. Over pay and hope for the best….
Is it fun living in false narrative land?
not when the facts do a better and provide more fun
Which facts? His work with the Expos farm system, building it from a hunk of junk into a force on a shoestring budget? Or taking an expansion team to the world series in just four years, winning it all, and than being forced to tear down that team and rebuild the team through scouting and the draft that would wind up producing the majority of players who were the key to another world series title a year after he left? Or how about turning the Detroit tigers from the laughing stock of the league into perennial contenders in just two years? Dombrowski is one of the greatest GM’s of this generation, all while working on tiny budgets(Expos), insane business models(Marlins), or an owner who wanted nothing more than to just give the city of Detroit something to be proud of.
Only $100 mil. GTFO, let this guy sit out
this
The Red Sox already confirmed that they offered 5/125 to other reporters.
Stop the presses..
It’s been a back and forth. One generally reliable reporter said a Sox source told him 100 to 110, then pretty quickly a usually good Boston Herald reporter said a source told him the real number was 125. That sat out there for weeks until this report from a very reliable Boston Globe reporter, so who knows. Olney said something like “actually 100” on his podcast today, but didn’t give a source. Speier seems to be his go to guy for Sox info, so he might just be relying on the same article as this MLBTR post.
Who knows at this point. I hope it was the lower number to give themselves so room to negotiate up to where Darvish landed. I’d take him at 6 years/$21M per year. That would save a ton of money since the Sox will be paying the tax on every penny of it.
Yea I’ve read and heard the same as you. This guy ^^^^OLF posts stuff like this on everything. Teams just don’t work like that…
bostonherald.com/sports/red_sox/clubhouse_insider/…
usatoday.com/story/sports/mlb/columnist/bob-nighte…
masslive.com/redsox/index.ssf/2018/02/boston_red_s…
Jim Duquette interviewed DD on MLB Network radio on Jan 20th and DD confirmed the 5/125 numbers.
The Red Sox probably want JD at DH, and JD wants to shiw off that slick glove of his.
I don’t think it’s in the Red Sox’s best interest to bid against themselves. It may be in JD’s best interest to take a 1 year deal with a contender and re enter the market. All the big market teams are sitting out hoping to land a big fish next year and he may be a good plan B for a lot of teams in on Harper, Pollock, Blackmon, etc
I don’t think anyone is spending huge $$ on Pollock (dude cannot stay healthy) or Blackmon (Hank Aaron at Coors, Aaron Boone on Road), Martinez would probably be the 2nd best outfielder available next year, problem is his glove is beyond bad
It’s strange, just a year ago Blackmon had even split stats (he hit .313/.363/.563 with more power on the road than at home). But that’s the only time he’s ever not had a MUCH better home slash than road slash.
This is ridiculous nonsense…I really want to see JDs bat in the Red Sox lineup, but for f**ks sake….camps are opening!!! It’s time to get this resolved, one way or another. It’s apparent he either wants more, or doesn’t want to play in Boston. So make him a slightly increased offer, throw in a 6th year that’s either a vesting or mutual option; maybe even give an opt-out after the 2nd or 3rd year…and tell him it’s a final, take it or leave it offer. Then he signs, or the Sox move on. The game of chicken they’ve played has gone on for FAR too long and needs to end; preferably this week
Sign Logo for half as much and move forward. Many times in life plan B turns out better than plan A
They already have a 1B, so they are not signing LoMo. The Red Sox need thump in the lineup. Either increase the offer and get JDM signed, or move on and make that publicly clear.
@bigworm
Boston should increase the number of years, the amount per year and give jdm a player favorable opt out, ignoring the facts 1/ nobody else seems as interested 2/ he is bat only 3/ the red sox are loaded with outfielders
No, I get where you’re coming from…why increase the offer when there’s no real competition? But all along “word” has been he wants a 6th year…and since the day after the ALDS, Dombrowski has been saying that the Sox lineup NEEDS more thump…they’ve been after the guy since November. So if he’s the one they really want…and it’s apparent he’s not going to cave and accept the current offer; then sure…add a little bit. If you really want him, go get him…I didn’t say to give him the world; but 5 years/$130m with a 6th year at $28m or so that vests at a certain performance level. I’m not a huge fan of the opt out, it gives the player all the power. However, it’s time to call the bluff here…they make my above offer (5/130, with vest 6/158); with no opt out and he still declines…then throw in the opt out as a last bargaining chip. If he still declines, it becomes apparent he was never going to sign here and they can finally move on. I think it probably gets done without the opt out, but who knows. All I meant was if you want him, get him…sweeten the pot a little.
They really shouldn’t though. Bidding against yourself when it’s so obvious no one else has interest is a terrible move. Plus, agents will keep that in mind in the future and have their clients hold out in hopes of the same.
I see a similar yoenes cespdes (sp?) deal the Mets offered – with the diamondbacks coming in and signing him to 25-30 yr 3 yr with an opt out
Wellllllllll Johnson said
He is going to win
But we all know that ain’t true
You look at me Boy
When I’m singing
Cause I’m not finished with you
You may not know it
You may not realize
When this song over
YOU’RE GONNA GET THESE HANDS!
Wellllllllll Martinez said
He is going to win
But we all know that ain’t true
You look at me Boy
When I’m singing
Cause I’m not finished with you
You may not know it
You may not realize
When this song over
YOU’RE GONNA GET THESE HANDS!
The Red Sox get the JDM deal done this week.
Somewhere in the 5/$90M to 6/$108M range may do it.
In other words an $18M AAV.
Finally JDM comes to Boston.
That’s lower that what he hoped for but it’s a good deal in this market.
I’d take him in Boston at that price but I think his ego won’t let him. He is waiting for any offer from anyone else that he can pretend is close to what he wanted in November. Problem is there are no other offers, he sits or gets on board and ready be on a team going for its third straight division.
JD will sign with the Red Sox. In this negotiation, Boras has no leverage…the Red Sox are the only viable suitor. The Diamondbacks? Lol. Unless the Dbaks jettison Greinke or Tomas it is a non-starter, they are skint. Did you know Boras met with Ken Kendrick personally 3 times in the last week? (snicker) JD isn’t taking a short term deal w/ the Dbacks. This is just verbal masturbation by Boras.
Boras set bar at probably crazy numbers like 7 years 190$ which they are dreamers. Hold the line here he’s a DH , big Pappi never made more than 17 mil av
It was 8/210. Big Papi never had a season like JDM had last season. JDM is 4 years younger than Big Papi was when he was a FA.
Are you crazy? You better go look at Ortiz’s stats again!
What??? Lol. U need to download google
I stand corrected
JDM 2017 – .303/.376/.690/1.066 in age 29 season
Big Papi 2007 – .332/.445/.621/1.066 in age 31 season
Big Papi had as good a season on OPS, just not in power. What made that 2007 season so extraordinary was his league leading number of walks. A .636 SLG in 2006 was Papi’s best year when he hit 54 HR in 151 games.
Big Papi never signed a FA deal. He kept signing extensions with the Red Sox.
I’m sorry leftfield, but you just cannot put JDM and Ortiz even in the same category. Yes, JDM has had a good four years playing around 120 games a season (hurt a lot) and even had some clutch hits. Many many players have a few good prime years, but Ortiz:
3 postseason walkoff hits*, .295 BA/.405 OBP/.553 SLG/.962 OPS
*The only player in history with this distinction
Regular season – 20 walk-off hits, 541 HRs, 2472 hits (328 Go Ahead, 102 Tying – not including his final season)
.286 BA/.380 OBP/.552 SLG/.931 OPS
I don’t think you want me to list JDM’s career stats, because I’d feel like I’m rubbing in it in at that point.
That said, jdm IS recently a beast and pretty clutch too which is why I wouldn’t mind seeing him signed on a reasonable (~5/100m) contract, but even then, I’d bet the end of that contract is not good for the Red Sox.
Wow do you know how good offensively Papi was you better do some research before make stupid comments.
The D-backs have roughly $121M for 2018…they have plenty of room to pay JDM anywhere from $20-25M/yr AAV. If JDM is fed up with anyone, it should be with Arizona.
OneHundredMillionDollars
How much money does 1 man need to survive? Paid to travel the country and get the celebrity treatment and know he has no worries when he retires in 7 years?
Jdm got big hits in detroit late in games. He generally took good routes in the field. Good arm. Whatever team gets him will be happy at the price.
I’ve been a fierce critic of JD Martinez this offseason. And for the reason of NOT taking an offer like the supposed one from the Red Sox and as I’m reading the articles right now, it kind of just clicked, I really don’t think he wants to play for the Red Sox. I’ve read blurbs about this before in the offseason, but didn’t consider it. Now, however, this late in the offseason, $100mm on the table, with the Encarnacion comp being made (a very good comp), just maybe money isn’t the deciding factor for Martinez in this case. So much about this hasn’t made sense and maybe he’s just hoping that somehow the D-Backs find the money to do it.
And if I’m a Red Sox fan, I’d be concerned if this were the case and he takes the Red Sox offer if it turns out to be the only one of the table. That’s exactly what the Red Sox don’t need right now is both another bad contract and epic PR nightmare.
I don’t think we should, as Red Sox fans, let the perfect be the enemy of the good.
Perhaps an incentive based contract makes the most sense?
The Red Sox organization is likely gun shy about another bust contract.
What team isn’t?
But when I see Lorenzo Cain getting a $15-16M AAV contract giving JDM $18M AAV is fair where he’s 2 years younger.
JDM can hit and he can hit at Fenway and the Red Sox could use his bat for sure.
The Red Sox aren’t likely to keep Hanley after 2018 so JDM fits in even better after 2018.
DD knows JDM from his days at Detroit so hopefully DD sees a trustworthy guy in JDM.
So let’s just get this deal done at a $18M AAV 5-6 year range and finally wrap this up.
Sorry baseball365, but I think you should schedule an appointment with your Dr. That “click” in your head has caused you to garble nonsense! It has nothing to do with playing for Boston, perhaps you should re-read the articles and pay close attention to his agent is. Let’s not make this into something it’s not! “Click”
The DBacks need to sign Martinez and figure out a way to trade Greinke to the Braves
Perhaps the single biggest issues in getting a deal done with JDM is the trustworthiness of Scott Boras..
I understand Boras is paid to get the best deal for his client.
But I suspect many in baseball think Boras fabricates stories about unsubstantiated offers that are non existent.
In other words most GM’s and owners think Boras is a big time BS artist.
We saw the bidding supposedly start at $200M then to $125M and now perhaps $100M.
We are basing the $18M AAV on comparable deals just done this year not BS (AKA Lorenzo Cain).
So the biggest obstacle to getting this deal done is if Boras will look like a failure to his clients.
Boras has other clients and other years to contend with.
It’s like a realtor that lists your home for $200K and you settle for $100K.
You’re pissed.
So honestly I don’t think this deal can ever get done at a FMV of $18M AAV because of Boras’s ego and past, present his percieved future reputation.
Sorry JDM you’re just a pawn of Boras.
But a word to the wise, just ask ARod why he dumped Boras in 2010.
And ask the NYY why they regret that deal.
Which, by the way, was less than what Boras wanted and the reason why ARod fired Boras after talking with Warren Buffett.
To Buffett, throwing away that level of money for pie in the sky was nuts. So JDM is throwing away $100M from a viable well paying team a smart move?
We’ll see.
If I were running the Sox he would get a 4/88 offer….take it or leave it and he would have 48 hours to decide. Sox are his only viable market right now and offering him what he really deserves either gets him at a reasonable and fair price or opens the door for the another team like the Yankees to blow off resetting their cap penalty. Worth the gamble to me.
Why wouldn’t the red sox be interested in a 1 year opt out type situation? Still gets 5 years and allow him to go back next season proving he can stay healthy and take the sloppy seconds of machado,Harper and co.? The red sox get their slugger for a season and keep hanleys option from kicking in and possibly have 3 huge contracts leaving (wishful thinking on price).
That’s a great idea but somehow Boston never gets players to agree to those kind of deals because they have more money to blow …. LOL
I wish the D-backs ownership would just dish out the money and make this team a championship caliber team.
There’s a ton of Cardinal Fans that feel that same way. Teams have cash…..plenty of it with the new TV deals coming in.
Why bother even having a GM and a President of Baseball Operations? Just let the Fans decide where all that money should be spent. The owners can sell their Beach House to accommodate Fan Opinion. Then raise game ticket prices to $150.00 each for grandstands, and $250.00 each for box seats. Beer will be $20.00, Hot Dog $12.00, Peanuts $10.00. (All sarcasm, in case you missed it)
Fact is…..Teams DO have a lot of cash….some more than others. Fans have no idea what the True Bottom Line is for each Team.
Salaries have become exorbitant, and owners are done being fleeced by Boras.
They should just give J.D.what they gave Albert pulois 10 years 250 million a stake in the angel franchise arte Moreno’s 1st.born and a chance to never have any money left to sign free agents for the next 10 years im sure that would make Boris happy !!!!
Why on earth does this dude think he’s worth more than $25M/year? That’s like a 150% pay increase from what he made this year. That’s like going from $30/hr to $75/hr in the normal world. I get MLB isn’t a “normal world” but still. A 150% pay increase on a yearly basis is still a 150% pay increase. And at the age of 31 (in August)….. it’s not like he’s going to get any better….. in fact, odds are 2017 was the best year he’ll ever have. Either I have too sane of a perception of my worth/value to a company or I either greatly undervalue my worth/value to a company, because I’d have a hard time rationalizing to myself why I haven’t agreed to a 150% pay increase……. and an even harder time explaining that decision to my family, specifically my wife, haha. People (read as players and media) have been saying TEAMS are the ones being tight fisted this year and not offering these FAs contracts. To me it seems it’s the players that have done this to themselves. Seems like this free agent class just has a messed up idea of how good they actually are. For what Darvish eventually signed for and what is being offered to Martinez it seems these guys have had reasonable offers on the table for them, but it’s just themselves who have made it take this long. Like Jake Arrieta. He’s had offers thrown his way all winter and turned down every single one of them. We know for a fact he turned down 6 years and $126M…. a MORE than fair deal for what he provides on the field. It’s squarely on his and every other free agent’s shoulders as to why they are still free agents. What exactly the likes of Cobb and Lynn are waiting for is beyond me. How on earth they think they’re worth $17-19M AAV is just asinine. Someone needs to tell Cobb you actually have to stay healthy to be worth TOR-like money. And as for Lynn….. just be better, but he too has a significant injury in his past. IMO Lynn, at most is worth $17M AAV and Cobb is, at most, worth $15M AAV. As for length of the deal. Neither is worth more than a 3 year deal IMO. ESPECIALLY in the case of the oft injured Cobb, who at age 30 has yet to start 30+ games in a season or toss 180+ IP. $15M AAV on say a 3 year $45 mil deal is an INSANELY good deal for that resume.
Excellent analysis. I guess the short answer is that players don’t get desperate and go to a 1 year OAK A’s type contract until big spending blow hards like Boston stop bidding against them-self.
I guess that’s what Tony Clark and others mean by possible collusion. When the stupid rich stiffs don’t act stupid and players have to rely on teams with a limited budget that don’t pay well or will just bring up an AAA player for the league minimum because they don’t have many fans.
That’s why I say JDM has to be nuts not to take $100M from Boston as no one else will likely ever offer that
Kudos to Red Sox for not bidding against themselves! Dombrowski learned from Prince deal. IMO I like JD at 5-125M with a mutual opt out after 3 years. Gives player incentives and team options. Win win
Ok bidding against myself here. FGS lets get the deal done. After Hosmer I feel justified the structure is accurate. Final offer: 6-$140 with mural opt out after 4 years. 4-$100M, 2-$30M, $10M signing. Take or leave
DBacks now offering 1 year for $126 million with midseason opt out
– Heyman
I was just reading that. WOW! We are witnessing history folks. I was able to get a little info from Boras on this, apparently the DBacks front office has identified an algorithm in the stock market that is allowing them to pick out explosive penny stocks. They are using team money to capitalize all that they can before the SEC puts a stop to it…..I’m also hearing that the DBacks are now players in the fierce Hosmer bidding war between the padres and the royals, DBacks apparently offering big Hos 1 year, 150 mil.
JD’s mama needs to take him out to the wood shed if doesn’t hurry up and sign that 100 million dollar deal!
Who ever signs J.D.better hope he wasn’t hopped up on steroids in 2017 . They may have never tested him last year its only random testing .But we will find out soon enough.It’s funny how great these players play till they get that big FREE AGENT contract lol
DD needs to get this done. He is the key 40hr 125rbi in the middle of line up IF they could have signed Addison Reed favorites in AL East again
I think DD is quite right, the market THIS YEAR makes $125mil/5yrs a great package… the best out there. If he doesn’t want it, then Morrison, and his 40 HRs at $12:mil per for 2 or 3 yrs will be fine. By then Devers, and Chavez will be adding more power to the lineup, or they’ll buy someone else’s service.