The Yankees, continuing to seek help for their rotation, have “monitored” free agent right-hander Lance Lynn’s marketplace this offseason, per Jon Morosi of MLB.com. However, a Lynn signing may be difficult for the Yankees because of their desire to stay under the $197MM luxury tax threshold in 2018. They have around $15MM to spend, Morosi notes, and Lynn’s next deal could pay him somewhere near that figure on an annual basis. At the beginning of the offseason, MLBTR predicted Lynn would receive $14MM per year.
More from New York and a few other major league destinations:
- The Yankees have also shown offseason interest in Rays right-hander Jake Odorizzi, as have the AL East rival Orioles, Ken Rosenthal of The Athletic reports (subscription required). Odorizzi would represent an affordable option for the Yankees, Orioles or any of the other teams known to be pursuing him, as the 27-year-old will earn a bit north of $6MM in 2018 – his second-last year of arbitration eligibility. Although, given that Odorizzi’s an extreme fly ball pitcher, it’s debatable whether he’d be a good fit for either New York or Baltimore – both of which play their home games at home run-friendly venues.
- The Diamondbacks and Brewers discussed outfielder Domingo Santana earlier this offseason, but the teams couldn’t work out a deal, Nick Cafardo of the Boston Globe reports. Milwaukee was seeking starting pitching in return for Santana, per Cafardo, which you’d expect for a team that has been on the lookout for rotation help throughout the offseason. The D-backs, meanwhile, want another outfielder and have attempted to re-sign the top hitter available in free agency, J.D. Martinez, making their interest in Santana understandable. Santana won’t even be eligible for arbitration until next winter, so he’d obviously make far less of a dent in Arizona’s payroll than JDM.
- In addition to the previously reported Yanks, the Mets asked the Diamondbacks about utilityman Brandon Drury at some point this offseason, Nick Piecoro of the Arizona Republic writes. Drury is still with the D-backs, though a deal could still come together before the season, Piecoro suggests. It probably won’t be with the Mets, though, considering they’ve signed third baseman Todd Frazier, outfielder Jay Bruce and infielder Jose Reyes in recent weeks.
Just my opinion but I don’t see the Yankees signing any FA starting pitcher that turned down a qualifying offer which both Lynn and Cobb did.
Why not? Who is the last first round pick they’ve kept, Judge?
Death you’re losing it my man. Judge wasn’t drafted that long ago so it’s not like they’ve traded that many. You can do better…
All first round picks are protected now, but there’s value in 2nd and 3rd rounders as well.
I share pinball’s opinion, because the Yankees will have more money coming off the books next season and could likely afford a better option from a better cast of free agents.
If the right deal is there and there’s a clear need, I’m sure they would target another starter. But right now, it would seem more like a luxury. They’re pretty well set.
I think the Yankees will trade for a pitcher SOON!
They have a top 5 farm system and more money than God. You really think they are that worried about a 2nd round pick. People these days lol
Actually they have made repeated comments that they want to stay under the tax threshold. Better to be silent and thought a fool than to speak and confirm it.
You have to be crazy to think of it was the final piece of World Series rotation they wouldn’t break the bank.
Samuel Clemens said that- any relation to Raja?
I wonder how much money god has.
I don’t know but they have more than that.
Actually I don’t think they are interested in SP that aren’t difference makes. That don’t strikeout a lot players and that RH’ed pitchers that in Yankees Stadium that give up HR’s. And in Lynn’s case a pitcher that has spent his entire career in the NL moving to the AL East. Personally I don’t think either 30 yr old is worth 4 yrs and upwards of $15 plus million dollars per year. Plus as has alredy been pointed out a draft pick. Which unless you haven;t been paying attention the Yankees the past couple of seasons thend to want to hold on to their draft picks.
I’m sure the O’s are interested in Odorizzi, but I don’t see them having the prospects TB would want in return.
We have the prospects. I’d rather not go for Odorizzi with all the mid-lower tier options on the FA market. Odorizzi has put up decent numbers pitching half his games at the Trop, I don’t foresee a positive jump at OPACY. I’d imagine the rays would look at Tanner Scott or maybe hunter Harvey in any package. Hopefully we don’t move Harvey while his value is relatively low though. Odo only has 2 years of control and is coming off a bad season. He shouldn’t cost any more than a headliner like that. He may be better than a guy like cashner or Jaime Garcia but I don’t think it’s significant enough to cough up a decent prospect for.
Umm… no we don’t. Unless the Rays want catchers. We got tons of those.
How do we not have the prospects for Jake Odorizzi? He’s not costing multiple top prospects. Ryan Mountcastle would be another guy we could hypothetically move for him. He’s not Chris Archer. Don’t tell me we don’t have some mid=range prospects that the rays would look at.
What about Snell or Honeywell ?
Moving Harvey would be awful.
I agree. I wouldn’t want to move Harvey for Odorizzi under any circumstance. Realistically though that would be an option. Our system isn’t deep enough to give up prospects right now. We could certainly get him but I don’t see the value in thinning out our system for him. Not when there are alternatives who have pitched at around the same level sitting out in FA.
Jake would never pass an O’s physical and the Rays aren’t trading Jake to a team in their division. This is all winter fodder.
They traded Beckham to Baltimore. Neither team is expected to contend, so it won’t matter. Baltimore needs to fill out its rotation, and the Rays want to move Odorizzi’s salary and open up a spot for Honeywell.
Great point. I wouldn’t be surprised to see the Rays finish in third place and battle for a WC…
Nobody wants Santana. Milwaukee grossly overplayed its ability to deal him for front line pitching and now they are stuck with him…and a garbage heap of starters.
Garbage heap of starters. Not a bad position to be in. Patients is a virtue. The Crew appears to be “All in” and will sign or trade when it makes sense. Lynn fits that bill. Yu did not.
Nice malapropism.
how did yu “not fit the bill”? that’s laughable.
He was too expensive.
patience is a virtue. patients go to the doctor
The Mets pitching staff are patients
Hahaha. Milwaukee’s consolation prize is Lance Lynn? Ok, then what other two starters will they sign?
Anderson, Davies, Chacin, Suter, Gallardo…let that sink in for a minute because that’s the trash heap they currently will be going with. You surely don’t expect a 30-year old journeyman in Anderson to repeat a career year or an entirely soft Davies to do the same. The rest is laughable…and do some quick research on labrum surgery and the throwing athlete before claiming Nelson is returning. Hot garbage indeed.
Suter, Gallardo won’t be starting genius. Woodruff is two-time Top 100 and will start over both of them. Guerra will most likely start over Suter. Gallardo is in the pen as the long man or will be cut. Anderson made mechanical adjustments before last season as well as a new workout regimen that resulted in a velocity increase. He also used his secondary pitches more frequently so, yeah, he can continue to pitch very well moving forward (you also don’t know the meaning of “journeyman”). Davies knows how to pitch. Anybody that’s seen him, and knows about the game of baseball, sees a guy who knows what he’s doing. He’s 25 this year and also used his secondary pitches more often last year. It’s called improvement.
They’ll sign one of Arrieta, Cobb, Lynn and also trade for another. While Nelson is back in June there’s a zero percent chance they’re banking on him bouncing back to what he was hence 2 future acquisitions, Chase, Davies, Chacin + Woodruff, Suter, Guerra and Nelson mixed in depending how he recovers.
Brewers starters had the 10th best ERA last year with Nelson, Chase missing over a month each + starts from Garza (22), Guerra (14), Wily (8), Milone (3), Espino (2), Blazek (1 – gave up 6HR)….that’s 50 starts right there that will be much improved in 2019.
The Brewers still have the prospect firepower to land Chris Archer like, anytime they want to.
Maybe lefty Jamie Garcia who induces a lot of ground balls . Which would help in that smaller stadium.
Why because you didn’t get YU. Had you signed him you fans would be on top of the world. Yeah your rotation is med if even that. You really think Yelich going to bring your Brewers to the promise land. If Stratton, Yelich, Gordon, Ozuna couldn’t even bring Miami to over 500 together one guy not going to go it for the Brewers. Not hating real fact. To add Milw over achieved last year got out the box hot with Themes. That won’t happen again and reality will set in. Just like I said their pitching won’t hold up all year and they won’t win the division last year. You Brewer fans have your hopes up will soon be crying on the boards this season. Bank it.
Don’t think you have ever watched Santana play dude can rake. Also has descent obp.
The Dude has raked for 1 season.
Lets not put him in the hall just yet.
Dude!
Terrible defender, terrible clubhouse guy…and EVERYBODY raked last year. His value is far, far less than you think it is which is why he’s still in Milwaukee as we speak.
Has the potential to be an average defender (far from terrible – that’s JD Martinez). Has a strong arm as well. How many 280/370/875 players were there last year? How many did that at 24? He takes in the minors being “minimum” 3.5 years young for age level but somehow people thinks he hit his peak. His peak is 300/385/940. His plate discipline is strong as he walks a good amount as well.
Terrible clubhouse guy? Now you’re just straight up lying.
He’s still in Milwaukee because the Brewers and several teams have hit a fork in the road regarding final agreement on the “additional” players in a trade.
I’ve never heard of Santana as either good or bad in the clubhouse but am curious. Do you have proof of bad?
Stuck with him ? Lol .280 hitter with 30 homers and good speed I’d rather keep him than get someone like Corbin
Just 26 and hit 30 homers. Has tremendous upside and will only get better why wouldn’t other teams want him? What your saying is laughable
Not sure that he will definitely get better. The player he is now is fine though. If he cut down the strikeouts, that’d be the next step but we’re talking about a guy who struck out in his first 15 ABS. I don’t think he’s going to ever be a plus there. He’s not going to steal any more bases than he did last season. If anything that will probably regress. He’s probably more of a what you see is what you get rather than a high upside guy. Which is fine because he’s a well above average player right now.
Upside? His hit percentage alone screams regression. Don’t forget how bad he is in the OF. Buy you’re the Brewers….it’s not like they’ve never played regular guys like him before…
Dude twentyforty you’re just talking out of your ass. Admit it, you’ve never heard that Santana is a “bad clubhouse guy.” You’re just making up random stuff.
Logan Morrison the moron
Good God, no kidding. If he’s getting 2/20 at this point, I’m an airplane pilot.
It’s easy to say it now. In any other off season he would’ve been looking at a 3 year deal for sure. Historical comps would’ve had his value higher than that deal.
What would it cost AZ for Santana? Corbin plus Banda?
Yes. Now.Done.
Brewers would probably have to throw in another prospect to make that work.
Uh no. Four years of control for Santana vs. one year for Corbin. It’s AZ that would need to pony up more.
so what there’s four years of control. he’s not good enough to give up a pitcher you’ll need and who’ll play a big roll in your postseason hopes and then next to duplantier your best pitching prospect
Sidewinder, please…. One year of Corbin for 4 years of Santana and the Brewers add more pieces??? Come on buddy, what do you think is a fair trade? I’d like to know
I feel like Corbin/Banda should be enough
The original proposal was Corbin PLUS Banda, not Corbin on his own. The Brewers would be getting one year of Corbin PLUS six years of Banda, so yeah they’d need to throw in someone else to get that done.
lol. 6 years of Banda if Banda is good enough to be a major league pitcher for 6 years. Dude got tuned up to a 5+ ERA in the minors and the majors last season. He’s as much of a relief prospect as he is as a starter at this point
Would Corbin and Brito for Santana work?
No.
i think that’s too much to give up for him
It’s not nearly close to enough.
What? Logan Morrison turned down 2/20 with the Indians? A team that can very well be world champions next year? Who is is agent? Please tell me not Borass
They could also very well be bounced in the first round of the playoffs like they were last year.
His agent isn’t Boras, but maybe there was some other things involved we don’t know that prevented them from signing him.
He rejected that offer early on in the offseason. He, like many others overestimated the market it appears. If that offer stood today I’m sure he’d reconsider.
I think The Yankees should sign Brandon Phillips. He’d be a cheap option they could get on a one year deal. Phillips can be the second base, and third base hold-over for Torres and Andrujar.
No way. Phillips is washed up. I could see a guy like Neil Walker on a 1-year deal or they could go with Wade and Toe until Torres and Andujar are ready/delayed to pick up extra year.
Santana’s hit percentage, home runs per fly ball and expected stolen base rate were all way, way above the norm. Expecting him to repeat any of those is foolish. He’s in for major regression, and the rest of baseball knows it. It’s why Milwaukee went out and added to the OF….because they want to sell high in him. But his clubhouse presence and defense are both negatives and offense can be acquired by lesser names anyway. Any pitching they’d get back for him would be mediocre at best.
Cool story. Except the pitchers involved in deals for him are Archer, Salazar types (and potentially Odorizzi and that young talented kid in Oakland).
We get it. You hate Santana. You lie about his clubhouse presence. You over-exaggerate how bad his defense is. His professional track record says he’ll improve offensively, not regress.
He’s being traded because he has 4yrs of cheap control and Stearns is in win-now mode, meaning he’s targeting players that are all-around players (hit for average/low K/high contact, strong base running, strong defensively hence Yelich and Cain). Santana is a very good offensive player but isn’t a contact bat and is below average-average (on a good day) defensively with a strong arm – definitely better than JD. He’s not an all-around player. He doesn’t do everything well and that’s not a knock on him because not every good player is well-rounded. They also have Yelich, Cain, Braun (plus Phillips) so they’re stacked at OF. He’s also done it at the MLB level whereas Phillips hasn’t so he holds much more value individually. All that combined is why he’s being traded.
Try educating yourself
Thing about Santana is….he’s actually a 1B/DH. Still a good player but not an all-star. 3 WAR last year, if he can repeat that he’s a good piece.
Hearty lol at “all way, way above the norm”, pray tell, what is this 25 year old MLB players “norm”? Players do this thing called “improving their game”, maybe you should pay more attention as to whats going on?
Hey, AZ…How about the Phils take that horrendous Tomas contract off your hands so you have money for JDM? Add Robbie Ray to sweeten the deal, though.
At this point I think the Yankees best chance of getting a pitcher is through a trade.
The mets are so cheap I wish they would just spend some money on a great player for once
Hey 101. Sorry for your continual disappointment. You sound like a decent fan so I’ve arranged for the Phillies to allow you to do a fan conversion during spring training.
You will be required to wear a special t shirt, “I’m free! Glad to be done with supporting the Wilpons’ farce”.
Orioles seriously need to do something. As of now Bundy and Gausman are all we have right now. Mchugh and Odorizzi would be a great addition…..hell if they would Salazar would be great too. As for now we dont really have anything.
Why empty out the minors for guys like mchugh and Odorizzi? They’re marginally better than cashner and Jaime Garcia. That would be angelos solely being cheap. Doesn’t make sense to give up talent for both of those guys when you could spend a couple extra million and grab a garcia or a cashner.
Why would the Mets still want Drury though? They sure build their team in a really weird way. Cespedes and Conforto are better COFs than they are CF’s but they’re banking on that not being the case, so they sign Bruce to take a COF spot. Ok…
What about Jamie Garcia may be very affordable for yanks
I think the Yanks want to get one more pitcher on a short term deal. Adding Corbin and Drury seem to make the most sense right now. The question is what would the D-Backs want for them.
I cant see the yankees signing a starting pitcher for big money. I’d rather see them sign Jamie Garcia. They only need depth. I can see him getting a 1 or 2 year deal around 5-6 million per. The other spot of concern 2b or 3b what about s 1 year deal for alcides escobar. Escobar would only be insurance. He has great defense you dont need his bat. Those 2 guys together shouldnt be more than 12 million leaving the yankees under the tax threshold
Maybe a deal with the Braves where the Yankees get Julio Teheran and Arodys Vizcaino, best starter and best relief pitcher from Atlanta, with Estevan Florial, Domingo Acevedo, Clint Frazier and any one of (Miguel Andujar, Gleyber Torres or Ronald Torreyes) going to Atlanta.