The Marlins continue to discuss center fielder Christian Yelich and catcher J.T. Realmuto with other clubs, but there’s “nothing imminent” on the trade front, Mark Feinsand of MLB.com hears (Twitter link). Although the Marlins are in teardown mode, it would reportedly take a “huge overpay” for them to deal either Yelich or Realmuto, their two most valuable assets. The 26-year-old Yelich is controllable through 2022 on one of the majors’ most appealing contracts, while Realmuto (27 in March) is set to play his first of three arbitration-eligible campaigns in 2018. Kyle Downing of MLBTR examined Yelich, Realmuto and the rest of Miami’s trade candidates over the weekend.
More on the Fish and a couple other East Coast franchises:
- Miami traded both Giancarlo Stanton and Marcell Ozuna earlier this offseason, thus subtracting a pair of in-their-prime sluggers who combined for a whopping 96 home runs in 2017. Now, with those two in other uniforms, the organization is “looking for guys who can provide power in the middle of the lineup,” vice president of player development and scouting Gary Denbo told Joe Frisaro of MLB.com. Unsurprisingly, though, the Marlins aren’t competing for high-level free agents who would serve as short-term upgrades, per Frisaro, who writes that “their vision is more long range.”
- With the Red Sox still interested in acquiring Orioles third baseman/shortstop Manny Machado, Ian Browne of MLB.com weighs in on a potential trade between the AL East rivals. Browne senses that the Red Sox don’t want to trade either shortstop Xander Bogaerts or center fielder Jackie Bradley Jr. this offseason, but he concedes that it wouldn’t be a surprise to see the former head to Baltimore as part of a Machado deal. The Red Sox would be losing two years of Bogaerts for a single season of control over Machado. As such, if Boston acquires Machado, it would make an aggressive push to re-up the superstar in order to prevent him from leaving as a free agent next winter, Browne adds.
- The Orioles still face a difficult path, all the more so given that the team will evidently be paying Zach Britton a full arbitration salary for what might be little more than a half season of work. Jon Meoli of the Baltimore Sun writes that, while the rotation market still hasn’t moved much, some of the arms from Baltimore’s potential target demographic are among those that have found new teams. Meanwhile, Steve Melewski of MASNsports.com considers the question of whether the team will look to make second baseman Jonathan Schoop a part of a new long-term core — and, if so, how much it might cost to get something done.
camdenyards46
Please extend schoop orioles
tonypro7
YES!!!! Build the defense and offense around him.
Ken M.
2 years of Bogaerts do not equal 1 year of Machado.
dynamite drop in monty
Nor does nothing at all equal one year of Machado. I like olive loaf.
Ken M.
“I like olive loaf.”
Savage.
pinballwizard1969
There will be no shortage of teams that would go for Machado if all it took was a defensively challenged type like Bogaerts (-11 DRS) defensive runs saved that had a terrible 2017 season offensively and is only under team control for 2 years.
Bruin1012
Yup I’m sure Bogey’s wrist injury had nothing to do with his struggles last year Still managed to be a 3 WAR shortstop coming off back to back almost 5 WAR the two previous years. You Yankee fans crack me up on Bogey there are very few teams who wouldn’t want Bogey.
bronxbombers
We could probably name at least 15 SS teams would take over bogaerts
cxcx
Bogey.
pinballwizard1969
I see as a Red Sox fan you haven’t lost the knack for coming up with excuses. What did the so called wrist injury have to do with his terrible defense.: -11 DRS in 2017, -10 DRS in 2016, -1 DRS in 2015 and -9 DRS in 2014. He’s been terrible defensively since day one.
BTW I see you cherry picked FanGraphs War number had you chosen to show bWAR (Baseball-Reference) including Bogaerts 2017 bWAR of 2.2 his career war (2014-2017) 4 years is just 11.1
22222pete
Has a career 84 OPS+ away from Fenway.
22222pete
Onviously he would just be one piece. They still need to field a team in 2018
mikeyank55
Here’s a slap shot Bruin. The Yankees wouldn’t touch him. Care to debate Bogey vs. DD?
GaryWarriorsRedSoxx
I’m a Sox fan…. DD had a GREAT year. Nice young player. Wish we had him. Nice segue from Jeter.
Bruin1012
Hey pin I just used Fangraphs because that is the one most people use on this sight. Nice use of cherry picking yourself. Xander has averaged 3.5 WAR over the last 3 years. The fourth year you are using to sway his stats was his rookie year and we all know he struggled that year. So way to go way to way to cherry pick yourself. Xander is a very good player period.
Bruin1012
Sure DD had a very good year last year but the two years before Xander was easily more valuable and better. So yea if you want to base on one year then sure DD was better but over the last the last three no matter how you look at it Xander was better.
dynamite drop in monty
Y’all hatin on olive loaf
Bruin1012
Please give me the list I would love to see it.
brucewayne
Name them SS!
Cashford64
Machado would immediately improve several lineups, and any team who is seriously contending for a World Series in 2018 would find incredible value in having him, even if it was just one season.
Cardinals17
That’s the same thing I’ve been saying about Machado. Even if they trade numerous prospects for him for a year, they are as the word says….a Prospect. Machado is established already. Machado and Ozuna back to back for one year??? I’d do that and make every effort to resign him in free agency in 2018.
PeterDipersio
I believe the Red Sox young core is the stability of the future! We don’t need manny machado
alexgordonbeckham
What would it take from Boston to get Machado? Would be crazy if they landed Machado and JDM.
kbarr888
Baltimore is asking for……..
“Two Young, MLB Ready Pitchers with several years of team control……..for starters……”
Cardinals have both the Prospects to acquire Machado, and the need. He probably won’t re-sign there long term, but they have the money…… you never know.
Cardinals17
Agreed! At least one year of bliss with Machado. With all of the standing ovations he will get during the season, maybe it’d woo him over in 2019. The Cardinals, even though the deck is stacked against them, will never know unless they get Machado and see what happens!!!
mikeyank55
Sorry Alex…there’s no farm system any longer. So Machado is a figment of your imagination. As far as JD, though an offensive force he will kill them in the field. Typical Red Sox team with redundant 1B/DH options that will be overexposed when they are forced to play positions.
GaryWarriorsRedSoxx
The Orioles aren’t getting what they’re asking for. He would have been traded by now. But you’re probably right. All we can do is hope as Sox fans LOL.
Padres2019ha
Renfroe, Spangenberg, Quantrill, Laurer for Yelich. Who says no?
dirtydan
Me
Friarfaithful117
I think its going to be more than that to land Yelich. I would love it if we did though. Especially if we do sign Hosmer we would have a core.
Padres2019ha
Add Naylor and have them include Barraclough
kbarr888
Naylor CAME from the Marlins……and he’s not worth Barraclough’s spikes.
Kyle is Miami’s version of Brad Hand (who also came from the Marlins)….and will require a similar return if traded.
Padres2019ha
Hand was 1.7 war to the claws .06 Not even close
kbarr888
We’ll see what happens when The Claw is closing in ’18. His value will rise (that was my original point)
jrwhite21
Using war for relievers really isn’t a fair indicator of how good they are
Padres2019ha
he’s good but inconsistent, walks too many, and hasn’t been proven in high leverage situations
sandman12
Tatis Jr. and Chris Paddack and another pitcher.
Injediwetrust
Being a SD fan, it is robbing Peter to give to Paul with Tatis or Gore. A Quantrill, Morejon, Renfroe and say Austin Allen would be a strong offer. If you substitute in say Lauer or Lucchesi (closer to ML) for Morejon throw in a further away higher risk/higher reward like Almanzar. or Ona..
Tatis, Gore, or Urias inclusion would just not be worth it as the Padres arent Yelich away from a contender.
AndThisGameBelongsToMySanDiegoPadres
No.
socalbum
Margot, Tatis, and Quantrill
kbarr888
You’re getting closer, I’d guess.
Tatis, Gore, Quantrill, and Margot could create interest.
#Fantasygeekland
Overpay imo Yelich is under control for 5 years and how many of those will SD be in contention? 2 *maybe* 3. Giving up 3 top 50 prospects and Margot for that makes no sense. Especially for the Padres
dirtydan
I don’t think there’s any chance that they’d trade tatis. Take him out and that might do it
Padres2019ha
Hahaha you’re trippin’. Margot(top 30 prospect last year) Gore AND Tatis and Quantrill could create interest?? riiight
kbarr888
Baseballnerdom…….Padres might say no, but the Marlins aren’t going to lower the price because “SD isn’t going to contend for 3 more years”. If Yelich likes playing there, and he thinks you’re headed in the right direction, he’ll probably sign an extension.
Good player, good teammate, solid character. Speed & power with the ability to leadoff if you need him to (you don’t).
kbarr888
Padres2019ha…………..
The article CLEARLY states that it’s going to take an overpay to get either of them. The package that I suggested qualifies as an overpay…..Right?
I’m not suggesting that “he’s worth that”…….just that it might take a package like that to get him.
marlins17
Tatis, Gore, Laurer or Espinoza, and Cordero.
Friarfaithful117
That is too much of an overpay. Tatis and Gore are pretty much off limits. Margot is already on the ML club and we are looking to add to the core not take away. The offer that I think would be reasonable is Baez, Espinoza, Renfroe, and one more B prospect. I know you have to give talent to get talent but any more than that is mortgaging too much on one player. Baez is a legit 2 if not a 1 albeit with risk. Espinoza is injured (TJ) but would be the Marlins number 1 prospect right now. Renfroe has power and is still young. May never live up to his potential but you take those risks in a trade.
Padres2019ha
I don’t like giving up Baez or Espinoza, ha. Too much upside. Spangenberg and Renfroe would both most likely be in the scenario. So it comes down to the other 2 and I would think Baez or Espinoza would be included but not both.
sandman12
Yelich would instantly become the team’s best player … and you have prospects that are untouchable?
Padres2019ha
Yes, we do. Especially during a rebuild. If we were the Yankees, and competing every year, and we’re a player away, we wouldn’t have untouchable prospects. Yelich was from what I saw the 27th best player in the league last year. All Star for sure, but not a superstar
Injediwetrust
Its pick your poison but they would for sure need to give up alot. im a fan and by no means a scout. Tatis, Urias, Lucchesi, even Laurer show the most signs of helping sooner than later. So it becomes offer your top pitching prospect, take your choice of Morejon, Espinoza, or Baez and fill in a couple more names.
From a Padres standpoint if you are going to pull off the ML roster its going to be OF, 3B, and 2B. Is it Renfroe and Spangenberg or Solarte. Maybe they bank on Corderos big fall and who could very well be a Yelich type.
We havent even gotten into players further away that eventually be like a Tatis in Almanzar, Ruiz, Arias or Ona. In my mind parting with one or two of these players to minimize losing players that are closer to contributing to the Padres success is the way. They arent just one player away..
AndThisGameBelongsToMySanDiegoPadres
No.
Go away.
Annoying.
#Fantasygeekland
Convincing offer if the padres add in something else
AndThisGameBelongsToMySanDiegoPadres
How bout no?
#Fantasygeekland
Marlins, they can do better
AndThisGameBelongsToMySanDiegoPadres
I’d be hesitant to trade with the Marlins anyway. They’re just going to trade us more injured pitchers then go crying to MLB about OUR medicals.
Padres2019ha
Tatis will be a top 5-10 prospect, Gore a top 15-20 and we won’t have to give up them just because they are our best. Nor would we. Renfroe was a top 50 last year, Spang, a former 1st rounder who played really well 2nd half of last year and is young and can play many positions, Laurer may have passed Quantrill in rankings, and Quantrill was a top 8 pick a couple years ago w pedigree who was also a top 50-75 player. That’s a pretty decent haul. I know Naylor came from The Marlins, but it doesn’t mean anything w a new regime…you could argue they really like him since they drafted him
Mjm117
How could you argue that the Fish “really like” Naylor when Fish traded him by the previous regime and the new regime I still being ran by the same person who gave up on Naylor in the first place?
If Padres want Yelich, Fish would understandable want Tatis and one of their top SP prospects like Quantril or Morejon AT LEAST. Or Gore as the centerpiece.
hojostache
You can “really like” a player and still trade them bc the right deal presented itself.
AndThisGameBelongsToMySanDiegoPadres
I say no
pmhockey35
One name I haven’t heard much on is Kyle Barraclough. Could he become part of the fire sale?
kbarr888
He’s probably not a candidate to be moved. He is still under Team Control in ’18, then has 3 years of arbitration to go through.
He’s very possibly sliding into the closer role in ’18. That makes him More Valuable next winter or July 2019
sandman12
He makes the minimum and he and Steckenrider anchor the pen.
floridapinstripes
It makes zero sense for Baltimore to ask for Boegarts or JBJ when they won’t contend in the near future.
Groome and Chavis are not enough by themselves.
The only way Boston gets Machado is if Devers or Benintendi headlines the deal.
Please don’t yell at me saying “There is no way they trade them!”
Tell me something I don’t know. Hence there is no way they get Machado.
dynamite drop in monty
This is a good post.
sandman12
One year of Machado is not worth a controllable young star – especially with Manny coming off a crap year.
floridapinstripes
Good luck creating a good enough package without him considering they want to MLB ready starters and Boston doesn’t have any of quality besides E Rod
slider32
Does anyone really think that the O’s are going to trade Machado to any team in the East?
chevyheston
This is just PR on Boston’s part to make fans think they’re trying to counter the Yanks acquisition of Stanton. They’re not getting Machado. And even if they did, it would be a one-year rental before he leaves to join the Yankees as a free agent..
#Fantasygeekland
I agree, and it is even more unlikely considering they are in the same division
gorav114
They have lined up for deals in the past so sure could again. I agree with u, the question is if Boston is willing to give up that much. Most likely not
jdgoat
Rodriguez could be the headliner
mehs
E-Rod a league average pitcher coming off of knee surgery, who was worth 2 months of Andrew Miller in 2014, now with 3 years less of control you think is worth a year of Machado.
jdgoat
Rodriguez plus prospects obviously. Machsdo didn’t exactly set the world on fire either though
pinballwizard1969
Going to take a hell of lot more than Bogaerts for the O’s/Peter Angelos to trade Machado to the Red Sox even with Machado becoming a FA after the 2018 season.
Austin0723
Doesn’t Manny like hate us with a passion?
Mark 21
Yes.
whosyourmomma
Yeah, Machado was either drilled or thrown at by several BoSox pitchers. IMO every BoSox “rumor” is to somehow try and drive down the price for JDM.
badco44
It’s all totally bubkus! O’s want too much for one year…
Lefty_Orioles_Fan
Xander Bogaerts or center fielder Jackie Bradley Jr.
Can you even flip these two?
I have bee saying (typing) it ad nausea, I want Machado to go to the Diamondbacks because he is an excellent fit for them and should make that infield one of the best in the entire league. I want back Zack Greinke because if he does well, you can flip him and a prospect or two. That would be a fair and righteous trade
Travis’ Wood
You’re an Orioles fan and you want to trade Machado for Zach Greinke? Is this a joke? You have to be joking. Greinke has negative trade value lol
Lefty_Orioles_Fan
*shrugs*
Also, if the O’s are send money, it would help make the deal even more fair.
Hiro
Not to mention the financials as well. Flip Greinke for a prospects?
Lefty_Orioles_Fan
Yes for prospects.
If Greinke pitches well and the O’s are out of contention, I think he would fetch some prospects
Also, if anything he gives the O’s a bonafide opening day starter.
Something of which they have not had for a long time
tbonenats
I don’t see how Greinke could net legit prospects. I mean we just saw the MVP get traded for nothing and the Marlins had to kick in $30m to get nothing. Greinke would net nothing and the O’s would have to eat money to flip him.
Manny makes the most sense on the Yankees, Cards or BoSox imo. Don’t see any of them yielding what the O’s want so will come down to O’s either keeping him or shifting asking price
Lefty_Orioles_Fan
Just say No to anyone in the AL East
kbarr888
Lefty…….What have you been smoking? Whatever it is…..please ask your dealer for something fresher….. LOL…..jk…..
Cardinals have much better prospects to offer……guys that are under team control, and could turn out to be excellent pitchers. Greinke? WAY too much money on his contract.
D-Backs would LEAP at that deal……..(Machado plus cash for Greinke and his mammouth contract….LMAO). The Commish might even Veto it…..
Lefty_Orioles_Fan
I don’t want to help the Cardinals or the Cubs
If the O’s get Zack G, Money, and one or two prospects (depending on the quality) I would be all for it
Also Rob Manfred would do nothing, he could not stand up to a strong wind
kbarr888
I appreciate your zealous admiration for your O’s…..but they’ll take “the best package” that they get offered, especially if it’s an NL team.
Manfred is a complete Putz. He wouldn’t do squat…..but he should…..lol
Lefty_Orioles_Fan
LOL well as long as it’s good and Manfred is a Harvard Grad, who has no clue
slider32
Yelich is a younger and better player than any of the free agents available. Over the last 4 years he has a WAR of 15.9 which is 27th. Martinez had a WAR of 14.6 and Hosmer had a whopping 7.5. This is why teams are trading for players and not signing free agents.
Travis’ Wood
Not to mention Yelich is much younger
bigdaddyt
Incase you didn’t know free agents tend to be older players… Yelich is younger
sandman12
You are making a good case for Atlanta to give Miami Gohara, Wentz and Fried.
The article leaves out an important Miami trade piece: Straily. Lots of talk about G. Cole is circulating, but no one seems to realize that Straily was the more dependable pitcher the last two years … and cheaper. Miami should send him to Philly for Nick the Stick Williams as a means of adding some pop to the lineup. Splitting the season between AAA and the majors last year, he hit 27 HR and had 99 RBI. The Santana signing renders him available.
kbarr888
Slider…..another reason Teams aren’t flocking to FA’s….
It would be naive to not consider the fact that “Next Winter’s FA List” could be a major factor here. That’s probably why Teams are balking at the current FA players and their ridiculous asking prices. Next winter won’t be “cheaper” by any means, but the players are of a much different caliber.
Teams could certainly be “waiting to spend”….and saving their pennies so they can enter the bidding Frenzy for any one of the following players……….
Harper/Machado/Donaldson/Dozier/LeMahieu/Murphy/Blackmon/McCutchen/Pollock/Bumgarner/Kershaw/Carrasco/Keuchel/Herrera/Kimbrel/Britton
slider32
Agreed, the big market teams can’t sign all of these players.
ddj05
I don’t want Machado in Boston, as a Red Sox fan.
Cam
So you’re against upgrading?
Ichiro51
For one year, doesn’t make any sense for any team to rent him. it’s not upgrade and downgrade of your overall depth. This is a Yankee fan saying that. Only if a negotiation is in place and agreed upon. No reason giving up so many prospect for 1 season of Machado.
tbonenats
Banners fly forever man. Machado doesn’t guarantee anything but if you’re close and have prospect depth to trade from I think he’s totally worth a team trading for. It obviously doesn’t make sense for Phillies or Padres to trade for him but Yankees, Sox, Cards, Cubs make a lot of sense. But I don’t think the O’s asking price is realistic, no contending team has two controllable SPs that are in or close to the show just sitting around ready to be traded for a rental. If O’s adjust asking price then they’ll find a taker for sure.
sandman12
Question: Did anyone even hear of offers for Ozuna from anyone other than the Cardinals? He would have been a great pickup for Phillies instead of Santana. (Cheaper, better, and would have kept Hoskins at 1B where he belongs. Somebody had to be willing to give more than SL did.
matthew102402
I really think that if some time was willing to give more than St. Louis, they would have taken it…
sandman12
What you or I perceive as more may be very different from Michael Hill’s perspective. He traded Luis Castillo for Dan Straily.
stl_cards16 2
I don’t think trading prospects for 2 years of Ozuna makes much sense. They have plenty of cash and that’s all Santana cost. Next year is when the Phillies will make a big splash.
Houston We Have A Solution
Cardinals should just pony up Kelly, Bader, Hudson, Gomber, and Hicks.
Yelich, Pham, and Ozuna gives the cardinals probably the best defensive outfield in the league along with two bats to improve their lineup. They trade kelly but keep flaherty weaver and reyes
Meanwhile Marlins get a catcher to replace realmuto (kelly) who is blocked by molina, bader for the outfield, and 3 pitching prospects in hudson, hicks, gomber.
sandman12
Helluva a deal. Marlins got half the guys SL didn’t have any use for in the Ozuna trade … now they get the rest!
kbarr888
It’s not a bad idea….but what do the Cardinals do with Dexter Fowler and his no-trade clause?…………….Oooops!
The Marlins won’t take him because of the contract.
Houston We Have A Solution
Either trade Pham or trade Fowler to a contender. I mean Cardinals would have to eat money on the Fowler deal, but I am sure the Indians, Rockies, Twins would have interest in Fowler with the Giants likely having most interest in Pham
I am sure the giants and cardinals can help each other with the giants getting pham and cardinals getting belt with prospects being exchanged.
What about Giants get Pham, Gyorko to play 1st, legit prospects to round out the deal.
Cardinals Belt and another prospect like Beede.
kbarr888
Can’t “just trade Fowler”…….he has to waive his NTC. He’s not going to do that to go to the Giants.
Besides………I’d much rather have Pham and Gyorko than Belt and Beede. Pham is their best OF………and Cards already have a TON of almost MLB ready pitching………..many as good as Beede (or maybe better). Cards have OF Bats in the wings, plus a few SS’s.
If you want Pham+++……You’ll have to be willing to trade Bumgarner…….and we know THAT ain’t happening….
Houston We Have A Solution
Pham had a great year that hell most likely never replicate.
.368 BABIP isnt sustainable and the power output will regress.
Pham isnt worth Bumgardner.
Pham Gyorko and someone like fernandez is worth belt, beede, and maybe heliot ramos.
jogo
Boston wants Machado but doesn’t want to trade Xander or JBJ. What a joke. I wouldn’t trade Machado for both of them. They both slipped at the plate last year. And Boston doesn’t have any prospects worth a crap. D. Dom. has already traded away all the decent prospects. Somebody is dreaming on these scenarios.
Cam
Machado slipped at the plate last year too.
Just saying.
Cardinals17
Agreed….He slipped at the plate last year. But look how much better he was than Carpenter. Carpenter is a mediocre player at best. It blows my mind why the Cardinals keep moving him to a different position each year and removing other Cardinals of either better defensively on even talent overall, just to keep Carpenter. He’d make a great utility man!!! But I hope he doesn’t start. Numbers are declining each year. He’s definitely not the contact hitter that made him an all-star.
wrigleywannabe
Baez, Almora, Montgomery and their choice of minor league pitchers for Yelich
The Marlins get their starting second basemen, centerfielder and a starting pitcher, as well as a prospect.
It doesn’t hurt to ask.
sandman12
Chicago wouldn’t give even Baez alone.
Padres2019ha
You’re warped dude
Ichiro51
If the rumor is correct that Orioles are looking for two pitchers who are ready to be in the majors with team control, they are not going to get it. Machado is only on for a year and pitchers are way more valuable than hitters right now. I know the major upgrade to a lineup and to the field Machado has. However, two MLB ready starting pitchers!?!?! The inning they could eat up and you could get really creative with two young starting pitchers, especially with team control.
Draven_X_23
Some teams will give up a lot if they want to make it to the World Series. My Os gave up E.Rodriguez for 3 months of Andrew Miller. I know its not unheard of to see overpays at the deadline.
Manny is great on both sides of the ball. He helped turn the Orioles into contenders the last 5 Years. Any team that wants to contend trade out their 3B or SS for him and it will be an upgrade.
Draven_X_23
Oh and pitching is such a volatile product. So many prospects turn to crap. Manny is proven.
tbonenats
I agree Manny is valuable but for a contending team trading two young MLB ready SPs is hard to do. I mean take the three teams that make the most sense.
The Yankees would have to give up their top two pitching prospects, or a current starter and one of their the prospects. They’d then have to spend money to sign a SP and then try to sign Manny to an extension.
The BoSox don’t even have two SPs that meet that criteria. They have 1, but he’s hard to trade due to the awful Price signing. Cheap pitching is valuable to them right now.
The Cards make a lot of sense for a rental since they are unlikely to be able to ink Manny to an extension or as a FA. However, they probably don’t want to part with two of their 3 stud pitchers that meet the O’s price.
If the O’s were smart they would change their ask to true prospects or bats and use their other trade chips for arms.
Psychguy
Maybe LA can dump Kemp on the Marlins if they eat some of the salary?
Ichiro51
Why would the Marlins want to eat any part of his salary. They just went on a salary dump and now they are just looking for prospect.
Mjm117
Yeah makes sense. Or take on all of his contract and send Dodgers Yelich.
Draven_X_23
Orioles Fan here. Blow up the team. Trade Jones, Machado, Schoop, Brach, and anyone else of value that can help the teams future especially in the pitching. I know Davis and Trumbo are not in demand.
Extend Bundy and Gausman.
Sisco, Beckham, Mancini, Hayes, Givens, and those 2 pitchers are a solid young start to a team.
Solaris601
Couldn’t agree more. BAL shouldn’t even consider extending Schoop until they fill those huge holes in their rotation. The only team with 2 rotation ready SPs who MIGHT be willing to send them to BAL for Machado is CLE (Salazar and Tomlin). Otherwise the O’s could viably trade Machado to AZ for Greinke, then sign Todd Frazier and a 3rd tier SP other than Jimenez, Miley, or Hellickson.
madmc44
If the O’s want to trade Machado–ERod and Xander should be sufficient. If DD and DD can’t come to a mutual move it won’t happen with the R Sox.
The only way the O’s get Bene, ERod and Xander is for Mancini, Brach/ O’Day and Machado, This is really Bene for Mancini and Bene is a far superior defender and a better base stealer. This proposal should free up $20 M for the O’s to use elsewhere.
rmullig2
Maybe if they extended the trade to include Bradley and Jones the O’s might be interested..
fuchholz
as a lifelong Boston fan, I have to give respect where its due. Brian Cashman is arguably the best GM in baseball. i cant help but feel like if he were running the BoSox he would have figured out a way to trade and extend Machado, AND sign JDM forming a lethal 3/4 duo in the middle of that lineup for years to come.
KD17
Cashman’s success, like the Yankee front office, has always been over-rated since Steinbrenner took over. Baseball has been fortunate that the huge lop-sided money advantage that NY has had the last 100 years only netted them a championship every 4 years. A business that is 2 to 10 times bigger than it’s competition would out earn it’s competitors at a far greater rate or be considered a failure. The baseball world has been lucky that the Yankees front-office has been inept for years. This century, the Yankees are at best mediocre, winning 1 championship in 17 years yet still spending more money than most. Cashman got a break when a giant of a a player suddenly started making contact with the baseball. He got an over-hyped catcher who for years couldn’t live up to his hype suddenly become a power hitter beyond imagine. Seriously, we give Cashman the credit for these events? It’s time to starting looking at the “training and conditioning staff” in NY and LA Dodgers too. The proliferation of homers by all types of hitters in an organization suggests something like the Athletics in the mid 80s. You don’t have to be Dick Tracy to notice specific teams have had enormous power surges while others haven’t. Will this become the HGH era? How soon will the commissioner be forced by Congress to look into HGH abuse? Launch angle my butt… these guys are juicing just like Sosa. Didi Gregorious, Starlin Castro hitting homers like Pujols as a young man? Get serious. Something is happening beyond changed launch angles in the Yankee and Dodger systems. Chris Taylor? Cody Bellinger? If you aren’t scratching your head, you should be!!
Let’s not credit Cashman with too much savvy. He’s won next to nothing in 17 years. The best GM is and will continue to be with the Cubs! Theo turned around the two longest losing programs in baseball. No prolific jump in homers in Chicago because it’s a clean program. The Red Sox need to get power and Machado or Donaldson would be great additions because Bogaerts doesn’t appear to have the work ethic or ego to be great. JD Martinez also would be a great add if we can’t convince a team with a tough centerfield to take Bradley off our hands for something of value. Betts and Benintendi may be an extremely small step down from Bradley but Fenway makes that acceptable because LF is not a position that takes great athleticism to play it. JD will be better in left than Devers will be at 3B so lets get him moved to 1B for the long-term, pick up a 3B and LF and a right handed pitcher and go prove that Cashman isn’t the brilliant GM that was suggested. At this point, like many seasons prior, the front-runner may end up a big disappointment especially without Girardi at the helm.