The Brewers have announced a blockbuster deal to acquire outfielder Christian Yelich from the Marlins. Outfielders Lewis Brinson and Monte Harrison, infielder Isan Diaz, and righty Jordan Yamamoto make up the return for Miami.
Milwaukee entered the winter with numerous quality young outfield options. Indeed, speculation has centered on the possibility that the organization would deal from its surplus, making this move all the more surprising. On the other hand, the Brewers were relatively unsettled in center field — where Yelich would presumably line up as things stand at present — and were reported recently to have made an offer for the quality young outfielder. The Brew Crew ended up improving an area of strength by sending out two prospects originally acquired via trade (in their recent round of veteran-paring swaps) along with a pair of 2014 draft picks.
What’s most interesting about this swap, perhaps, is that it could set Milwaukee up for yet further moves, perhaps helping to facilitate a move to deepen the organization’s rotation. The organization could still deal other outfielders if it so chooses after parting with Brinson to add Yelich. Keon Broxton and Brett Phillips are among the other players on hand that could be dangled. Interestingly, per Rosenthal (via Twitter), the club will not give up its pursuit of top center fielder Lorenzo Cain despite today’s move; in that scenario, presumably, Domingo Santana could even be dealt. Given that the Brewers also won’t be taking on much in the way of near-term salary in adding Yelich, the team could also still set out onto the open market to find a starter.
Yelich, who only recently turn 26, is guaranteed a manageable $43.25MM over the next four seasons, with a $15MM club option (or $1.25MM buyout) for the 2022 campaign. That’s a bargain rate for a player who has steadily produced at an above-average rate in all areas of the game ever since he cracked the majors in 2013.
In three of the past four seasons, Yelich has racked up exactly 4.5 fWAR. He has done that in different ways, too. Yelich has always hit at an above-average rate, but only once — 2016, when he posted a 132 wRC+ — turned in a truly superlative season at the plate. In 2017, he slashed a productive but hardly world-beating .282/.369/.439 with 18 home runs, but added greater value on the basepaths (a 6.8 BsR grade that ranked sixth in all of baseball). And it was top-notch corner outfield defense that was most noteworthy about Yelich’s performance in 2014.
Perhaps, then, there’s reason still to hope that Yelich can produce even more than he already has in a given campaign. Some also have suggested that his power could still develop, particularly if he spends more time away from Marlins Park. There are a few areas of concern — for instance, Yelich owns a mediocre career .272/.331/.373 batting line against lefties and graded poorly (-6) in center field last year in the view of Defensive Runs Saved. On the whole, though, he’s clearly one of the better young outfielders in baseball.
The price paid reflects the asset acquired here for the Brewers. By consensus, Brinson was the team’s best prospect. Though hardly considered a sure thing, the soon-to-be 24-year-old outfielder — acquired from the Rangers in the Jonathan Lucroy swap — is widely considered one of the 25 or so best pre-MLB assets in baseball. Last year, he slashed a robust .331/.400/.562 with 13 home runs and 11 steals in 340 plate appearances at Triple-A. He’s also considered a top-quality up-the-middle defender. Having briefly touched the bigs for the first time in 2017, Brinson will likely enter camp as the odds-on favorite to start in center for the new-look Marlins.
There’s depth in this prospect package, too. Harrison is likely the second-best asset heading to Miami. He hit on both ends of a promotion from Class A to High-A in 2017, compiling a .272/.350/.481 batting line on the year. Diaz, also a ’14 second-rounder, came to Milwaukee in the Jean Segura trade. He cracked top-100 prospect lists last winter. He ended up scuffling in his first attempt at High-A — .222/.334/.376 with 13 home runs but also 121 strikeouts in 455 plate appearances — but is just 21 and still viewed as a high-quality middle infield prospect. Yamamoto is also a 21-year-old who played last year at High-A. He had an emergent campaign, compiling a 2.51 ERA with 9.2 K/9 against 2.4 BB/9 over 111 frames.
Yelich becomes the third excellent outfielder (joining Giancarlo Stanton and Marcell Ozuna) to depart Miami this winter. The organization has loaded up on interesting young talent and drastically reduced its payroll commitments, but may well not yet be done with the dealmaking. Several higher-priced veterans could still be moved and top remaining assets like J.T. Realmuto, Dan Straily, and Justin Bour could still be discussed in trade talks.
Ken Rosenthal of The Athletic reported the deal (via Twitter). Jon Heyman of Fan Rag reported the inclusion of Brinson and Diaz (via Twitter).
Photo courtesy of USA Today Sports Images.
WHAT
Awe yea !!
Brewers still won’t win the NL Central.
Headass boy
Neckass boy
True
This is the funniest thing ever. Yelich had to whine to the media about demanding a trade instead of keeping quiet and just doing his job. And now he got traded from one loser to another. Only his new loser team isn’t on the beach in Florida but in Wisconsin! Careful what you wish for!
It’s gonna be interesting…. Go Brew Crew
Fangraphs was projecting them well under .500 before Yelich. Maybe now they are a .500 team
Kyle Schwarber will.
I can tell you which of those places I’d rather be during baseball months and it sure ain’t Florida.
No most likely they’ll finish second to the Cardinals.
Cards are trash and still are. Don’t be a Cub hater cause the Cubs have made the Cards look bad over the last 3 years. Grow up. Their trash and will always be known for their hacking cheating ways. How low can you go.
What did Fangraphs project them at last year?
At best they’ll be 3rd and 30 games under .500
Fangraphs had the Brewers at 27.8 WAR or 84 wins for 2018 before trading for Yelich.
So a 0 WAR team should theoretically win 56 games?
Screw your projections beisbolista. That’s all you talk about- how teams wont be any good because of their projections. Projections are almost never right.
Actually many people prefer to go North in the summer months.
Add in Cain
They had protential but lack pitching
No need to watch this year. Just look at the fangraphs projections and move on.
Funny how you stop at last three years. Let’s take a look at standing and championships say from the last 25 years. Cub fans have one win in a 100 years they still are laughing stock of baseball. Such all time losers.
A zero WAR team would theoretically win around 60 games; obviously with luck and such it could be 56, it could be 66. But around 60 wins is what a team without a single positive-WAR player would generate. That is the model that the various entities that calculate WAR begin with.
Your comment, screen name, and photo have me really confused. Unless it all comes back to just hating the Cubs and wishing them misery.
You Cubs fans win 1 World Series and you think your the best team Ever. Plus your pitching isn’t that good this year. Iam a Cardinals fan but I think the Cards and Brewers win kick the Cubs but this year.
Why do you just hate Milwaukee so much? Most people who actually have been here enjoy it
That’s too many wins for a replacement level team. Unless BR and FG have updated the value recently, a replacement level team is around 48 wins. BR used to calculate replacement level at something like 52-53 wins, but adjusted it a few years ago to match up with FG at 48 wins.
Wisconsin is a beautiful state
What is the appeal of Florida outside of taxes? Like there’s alligators, swamps, swampy stripclubs, and swampy weather, and the Rays. And the Yankees AAA team unfortunately
Says the bigcubsfan
No, I’m sure he’d gladly be away from a never-ending sea of scantily clad 8’s, 9’s and 10’s for whatever busted A$$ bail bonds beauty queen from 2013 that Wisconsin has to offer.
Put Yelich on 24 suicide watch.
I don’t know what you’re talking about. Yelich is going from a loser to a likely wild card /possible division winning team.
3 years? LoL! Out of what ? 140 years? You are a moron! It was an employee who used his computer to do that
and not the Cardinals team! Why don’t you stick to Goat Loving like you bums are known for! Baaaa!
Not if Paul Ryan resides there.
You’re not a Sox fan but a Cubs hater. What a bore.
Cardinals win? Please. Unfortunately for Cards fans, the Astros changed their password.
hmm
*Narrator* They won
As a Cub fan I don’t understand why you guys all view Milwaukee so bad. This team is young hung and they have payroll. This hurts the Cubs
And they have trade chips to get a starter.
Fak
Why Fak? At least now we know the Padres won’t overpay for him.
This is one of the few things I agree with Ryan
Now we can overpay for Hosmer
haha touché
At this point I’d rather the Padres overpay in salary than prospects.
Perzactly!
I agree with the “salary over prospects” approach. Yelich is a good player, but I’m glad to see another team pay up for him.
I don’t think the Brewers overpaid at all! The Marlins didn’t get near what they thought they would in this trade! Just like in the others
And all the future trades as well, they are not gonna get what they should!
KEN BOMB
Very detailed
Rosenthal deeply apologizes to you specifically for only giving you this bit of breaking info on a huge deal
Woah
Yes Brewers!
I told you guys Milwaukee could and would do it. Now Darvish to the Brew Crew
Yawn
Love the sound of scared Cub fans
Lol
we’re not scared of Yelich and certainly not scared of STL
Yeah. It sounds like back-to-back-to-back NL Central Champs!
Can he pitch?
Brew Darvish
HERE WE GO!!!
Brinson?
I’m assuming he’s in it. Maybe Ortiz and a lower prospect too?
They asked for Acuna from the Braves. No way the Brewers got this done without including Brinson.
ROSENBOMB. Good for Yelich
Well crap Derek…
I’m pumped this is Derek btw
I TRUST YOU DAVID
he was once Luhnow’s apprentice, I think you’re in good hands
Wow! Let’s go hot stove. Dominos commence
Why does that matter?
I’m superstitious, ^^
You haven’t noticed in the Giants thread, mentioned those ‘even years’ ? 😉
Offseason’s been so painfuly slow, I’m kinda hoping this jumpstarts it, though we were wrong about Stanton/Ohtani jumpstarting it before.
I want to see some action out there!!!
Dang
Good for the Crew
I accidentally read Braves at first and I think I crapped my pants
And? #dumbpost
Who hurt you?
Who? HINT: You live in her basement.
Well basement for him. computer lab at the high school for you.
Does that make you feel big?Trying to pick a fight with someone in MLBTR comments section?
And the riots will commence in Miami in 3..2..1..
Wouldn’t that require fans?
burn
Marlins only have about 50 fans. Wouldnt be much of a riot. More like a minor disruption
Like being in line at Chipotle
I think the look on people’s faces as they rush to leave Chipotle and find the nearest toilet is a pretty apt description of how Marlins fans probably look and feel after completing the tri-fecta OF exodus so they can “save money”.
LOL..no riots when Lebron left so I think you’re safe…
Let’s gooooo
Marlins going to be good this year.
I’d love to hear Starlin Castro’s take on this offseason.
“Oh Lord, what did I do to deserve such punishment? Why hath you’re abandoned me?” – Starlin
His response? Its literally…. “I like baseball” Its the look that’s always on his face, foul a ball off in pittsburgh that nails a fan, same look, “I like baseball”
INTRODUCING NEWTHE MAYOR OF DING DONG CITY
Oh my god!!!!
Which Ken Rosenthal twitter account said this?
Wow. As a Cubs fan allow me to say that I look forward to a really fun race this year!
Ditto. Going to be a fun summer
more like going to be really fun watching the Brewers dominate the cubs all season
Boyum, that stupid.
The Cubs were 2 games below .500 in the first half … and still won 90 games. The Brewers were close last year because the Cubs slept through half the season. This trade definitely closes some of the gap, but the Cubs were considerably further ahead of the Brewers than the records indicated.
brew crew will sign jake A and actually pitch him past 6 innings against the cubs to let him dominate Joe for holding him back
they were exactly as far apart as the final standings were. doesn’t matter that fans think cubs were drastically better. they weren’t.
Cubs way underperformed last year and the brewers think that’s how it’s always going to be lmfao.
You’re right. I’m sure Jake would’ve much rather been thrown out there for 230 mostly inefficient innings so his arm was ruined heading into free agency.
Or joe pulled him when he threw 40 pitches in 4th or 5th inning to kill his pitch count
And that differences name was Jose Quintana.
Dumb argument. Brewers were up before the break, went on a slide, and still made it interesting in September. You can spin it all you want but they weren’t that far apart.
As a pirates fan at least we still play the reds
Except you do know the pirates record last year against the Reds Right ? Lol
Smartest think I heard a Cubs fan say
3 teams in 2 years for Brinson it’s looking like.
When you’re a top prospect you always have a bigger chance to moved. Milwaukee is a team that’s interesting because they’re right there on the verge of competing for the division. If you can make an impact immediately to move forward you have to be willing to move that top guy.
Regardless of prospects given up, if you’re a Brewers fan, you’re very happy this evening.
Milwaukee Brewers 2018 NL Central champs
Turn off the XBox and go to bed
Who is pitching? That is a pretty big hole to fill to jump two teams.
Brewers had a solid staff last year. They didn’t get the recognition of Boston, LA, or the cubs but they had a solid staff. Anderson, Davies, and Nelson pitched great. Of course Nelson is hurt right now and that’s a big hole to fix. But I think Stearns is going to be REAL aggressive in the next couple of weeks with a pitcher. If he can’t find one in FA (I think he will) look for him to sign a 3rd baseman (the Brewers are in on moose). If that happens he’s going to look to move Shaw and some prospects for an arm.
Not to mention a good bullpen with hader, kenebel, and even Jeffries. They got rid of swarzak but I think the addition of Logan is going to help as well. Don’t sleep on the Brewers arms this year.
The Brewers finished 2017 ahead of the Cardinals. It’s just one team to jump. The Cubs.
Little to early for that. Still think the Cubs are the team to beat.
Yep it could very well happen, they have payroll flexibility still and plenty of talent to still trade for pitching. They aren’t done yet and could make some more moves to push them to a division title this year. LOVE THESE MOVES
Brew Crew back baby
brew crew shouldn’t stop. Sign darvish now too, they still need a pitcher
THIS
Darvish
Darvish to Brewers. Brewers vs Astros in 18 WS. Darvish can win two more for the Astros. Everyone wins.
This is why you don’t do bath salts
Project Wolverine…..crap.
Finally some damn action in a pathetic offseason
If you hand over your receipt, you can get a refund.
Oh, wait.
As a Cubs fan, hats off to The Brew Crew. It will be fun to see Yelich manning the OF at Wrigley North…. Cubs just get Darvish and im satisfied with the offseason.
Cubs are not likely to get Darvish as he is very likely heading to the Brewers.
Brewers can’t afford Lynn.
Brewers have 40mil to spend they had the lowest payroll in baseball last year.
Top players don’t sign to go to Milwaukee. Trades or draft are the only players milwaukee is getting. Who wants to play for a team that only sells out when The cubs are in town?
Brewers averaged 31,600 last year. That’s top 10 in MLB attendance.
typical dumb cubs fan saying dumb things. maybe look up attendance numbers before commenting on them??
You can always tell the new Cub fans that started paying attention in 2015.
Milwaukee is a very good baseball city. One of the most underrated in baseball.
What planet do you live on?
Cubs sold out all their postseason games what was brewers attendance in postseason?
In 2011, all the games were sold out at Miller Park for both the NLDS and NLCS. I’m sorry you didn’t start paying attention to baseball until 2015.
Do you think Lorenzo Cain was signing his contract at the exact second you typed your stupid comment? Because I’d like to think so.
Love this. Darvish next? 😛
Do the Marlins have anyone left?
Darvish will be next. The Brewers were already the cream of the division (thanks in part to the Cubs horrible off season). Now with Yelich they are cemented as the favorite in what might not be a very competitive division.
Boy suggesting the Brewers were already better than the Cubs…. hmm. I don’t think the Brewers more than maybe an 84 win team now with Yelich…
Remember the Cubs have lost a lot of key parts this season. Wade Davis was outstanding last year. Jake Arrietta was very good and has been a key part of that team. Don’t underestimate the impact of losing a guy that was there from the start of the greatest run in the last 100 years of the franchise. John Lackey was this years David Ross and his veteran presence was the heart and soul of that team. John Jay was the defacto team captain. The Cubs have lost a lot this off season and have not replaced it with much. Jon Lester will be a year older in 2018. Zobrist will be a year older? Will Heywood decline? Will Schwarber improve?
This will be a much different Cub team come spring training. I truly don’t like the outlook of the 2018 Cubs at this point. I don’t think they get Darvish or Cobb and wonder if they won’t make a few trades.
They won 86 last year without him.
Cubs have replaced everything except arrieta so far. Morrow/wilson/maples/cishek/Edwards all have closer stuff. Chatwood for lackey. But also remember a lot of cub hitters had down/unlucky years. Schwarber is entering his 2nd full season. Baez is trending up and should get the lions share of 2B. Russell is finally healthy. Heyward who knows except a gold glove, almora is very good, Willy is only getting better, bryzzo is good for 65 hr & 200 rbi every year.
Cringy
The Brewers aren’t even the cream of the Wild Card.
They don’t need to be. They’re winning the Central.
Scared cub fans though..
What fan fic did i just read? That was bad.
Then Realmuto and the carnage will be complete
Six years from now the Marlins will do it all again.
Nope, not quite, gotta trade Bour, Barraclough, and Strailey. Im lovin it.
Return: Brinson and Diaz
So the Marlins traded for Jumbo Diaz twice, that makes sense
The Marlins will get two local little league players, Bernie Brewer’s empty costume, the guy who mops the men’s bathroom floor, and a vial of clean pee from Ryan Braun.
Given it’s rarity, that vial could be priceless.
Precisely
Lol this
Brinson and Diaz to Miami.
I am disappointed
Disappointed? Why?
I hope for Realmuto’s sake that he gets moved soon.
Well goodbye to Jeter thinking unanimously being elected to HOF if they let writers from Florida vote
Lol
Now Broxton to SF?
Giants don’t want Broxton he strikes out to much and his on base % is way to low..
BOOM. I’d guess Brinson, Broxton (wishful thinking I suppose), Burnes, and a lower level arm like Ponce or Pennington. Really hoping they pulled it off while keeping Burnes, though!
Burnes, Woodruff, and Ortiz were NOT included. Good trade
also Hiura a-boiinngg
Is there a way to auto show new comments rather than click “show,” Annoying.
auto shows for me..
Is the Marlins outfield structure also involved in this deal?
If the Brewers agree to melt that atrocity down after acquisition, I’m all for it.
I suspect that MIA would have to package that structure with a top prospect or trade it for another team’s bad contract.
Great job brew crew, let’s get on more starter and take out the Cubs
Taking out the Cubs is a given. The Cubs won the division but the Brewers were the better team in 2017. The Cubs have lost, Jay, John Lackey, Wade Davis and Jake Arrietta. Who have they replaced them with?
John Lackey was terrible, he was replaced by a much better Chatwood. Arrieta was mediocre, he’ll likely be replaced by Darvish. Wade Davis was replaced by Brandon Morrow, who was excellent the past two seasosns. And Jon Jay is replaced full time by Almora, which remains to be seen.
I’d argue to you the Brewers finish 8 games behind the Cubs with Yelich
I do believe the Cubs get Darvish though. My assumption in saying 8 games is based on the Cubs acquiring on of the top free agent 3 SPs, which they almost certainly will.
Would you care to wager about who will win the NL central in 2018? You comment a great deal about the Cubs. I wonder to what degree you honestly believe your projections. No animus, just looking to see how secure you feel about your prognostication.
Just like Milw was going to win last year. Lol. When Yelich is a 270 hitter with 10 he runs you be missing those prospects.
I am being 100%- I never wager money on sports. I truly believe the Cubs will be middle of the pack in 2018. Here is why. I am a huge fan of Jake Arrietta. He has been the horse of that rotation since they returned to contention. He has been there 5 years and won a CY Young award in a year he had one of the greatest pitching seasons in the past 30 years. A guy with those attributes is just not easy to replace. The Cubs are losing a true core player. I think many are underestimating how big of a loss this will be.
Add in losing Davis who was just outstanding last year. Add in losing the heart and soul of the team in John Lackey (2017 David Ross). Add in losing defacto team captain John Jay. The losses add up and I am not impressed with the Cubs replacement options. I don’t think they have added a player better then any of the players they have lost aside from Lackey.
The season is a long way off but as things stand now I would rank the Cubs third behind the Brewers and the Cardinals. Maybe closer to the Pirates then you would think.
I think a HUGE part of what could make this interesting is watching how the Brewers, Cards and Cubs match up against one another. That’s 38 games out of each team’s schedule and will go a LONG way towards determining the division champ. If there is parity, it could have the effect of knocking one of the three out of the playoffs (and yes, I think it very possible the NL Central could be a three playoff team division this season).
270 with 10 hrs? Entering his prime? Come on now.
More like 290-300 with 15-20 homers, and 12-17 steals, and solid defense.
Lackey was the heart and soul of the Cubs? You’re funny. Jay was the defacto captain? No, I guess you’re just an idiot. I’ve seen you post the exact same comments at least 15 times this off-season. Get a life.
Hey dumb @$$ the only reason the Brewers were even that close was Thames got off to a hot start. Won’t happen this year. The Cards got better so that will even it all out. Heard all this noise for 3 years now
Lackey lol oh boy big loss. JA on decline. Cubs will sign a SP sooner than you think. Jay is no big deal. Happ n AA more than make up for it. Marrow will do just fine. So get over the Cubs and don’t worry about it. Will be calling you out about all star break so don’t go far. Yanks better get a SP their rotation won’t even come. Close to Houston, Clev or Boston.
Worry about you n your team not the Cubs. You must be worried you mention them every post lol
Hello friend.
The Yankees rotation will be just fine. The Cubs rotation is, at this point, in a wee bit of trouble.
You have a solid Hendricks but will he be healthy? That is a question and you must admit- the answer may be no. Jon Lester had the worst year of his career last year and he will be a year older in 2018. Will he rebound? Will he be worse? Jose Quintana didn’t have a great year in 2017. Will he be better in 2018? Will the real Jose Quintana please stand up. Mike Montgomery is a solid arm but will be hold up over a full season? That is the state of the Cubs rotation at this point. Not a very good spot to be in.
They also lost a lot of games early on because the closer sucked. Now that he’s gone, it will all even out the other way.
Jon Jay was the best all-around OF the Cubs had last year! Their pitching staff is worse
and the bullpen is no better. Cards or Brewers win the Central. But good luck to all!
Guys come on, the Yankees are the best team and are gonna win the World Series for the next 15 years straight. They are the best team ever and no team will ever ever beat them. They are God’s!!!
P.S. never seen a fan base more privileged and arrogant than Yankees fans. They get triggered so easily!
Until Tanaka’s arm falls off ….
Darvish headed to the Brewers? That is what they need to put them over the top.
brinson, isan diaz and prob more
both of the top guys the Brewers gave up they acquired in trades for Lucroy and Segura
Big fan of this deal. I have cooled a bit on Brinson and I still think Yelich has another level in him.
Terrible news for Brinson, Diaz, and the others.
They’ll be headed out in five or six years to a contender in need.
Why? Brinson just got a starting job in the majors. That is every player’s dream. The others will be in A+ or AA this coming season so by the time they hit the majors the Marlins will be looking at contending again and will have $80 million more per season at a minimum to spend on payroll.
The Marlins had $80 million to spend on Darvish and Arrieta but it went into the bank accounts of Derek Jeter and Bruce Sherman.
“What’s past is prologue” – William Shakespeare
No it didn’t! Jeter only has a 10% ownership stake!
So, I guess the Brewers saw the Cardinals relatively weak offseason and the Cubs almost nonexistent one and said hey lets give it a shot since the Reds and Pirates will both try their best to avoid losing 100 games and maybe neither will accomplish it.
I think this is better for Central teams because like last year’s pathetic West, there will be two wrecks in the division like the Padres and Giants were last year. It was always going to be Cubs and Cardinals making an effort (to varying degrees) and I feel like adding a third team that’s going to try on purpose and not just have a happy accident with cheap and young players is good.
Cubs’ non-existent off-season? What are you smoking ?
Great deal for the Brewers. Getting Yelich, while keeping all of their best pitchers, Hiura, Lutz and Phillips is a big win.
alright brewers. wtg small market teams. now over take the scrubs
Oh SNAP!! No one saw that coming!
I think a large amount of people saw this trade happening, since The Brewers were interested in Yelich.
Extremely good move by the Brewers…i know parting with top prospects is hard…but thats what they are..just prospects…they may become great players…or they could become nobodies..
Yelich is a proven major league commodity..under a steal of a contract for 5 more years and is still getting better..
If the Brew Crew can land Darvish…they will definately be a contender…even if a Cobb or Lynn is signed…they will be alot better and a team to not be taken lightly..
Congrats to Milwaukee fans
Good Trade and at the moment MLB Network have Hall of Famer’s on and not talking about Trade yet.
Marlins get a MLB ready OF in Brinson, their number one need, and a 2B/SS prospect in Diaz plus other prospects for Yelich. Both Brinson and Diaz rank in top 10 at their positions in baseball. That is a nice return.
Saw Monte Harrison play for the Mudcats and he is the real deal. Monster arm. Great fielder. Hit well for his first time in A+ ball. Then he went to the AFL and just crushed advanced competition.
Yamamoto also played for the Mudcats. Nothing special about him to me.
Great return.
Bad trade for the Brewers. a) should have just kept their farm depth b) Should have just signed free agents and not lose players c) Yelich is a high risk, low upside left fielder. -6 DRS in CF last year. Only a .156 ISO for a corner outfielder and a near 20 K%.
I don’t really see the logic in giving top prospects for a player like that and one who could end up going the Francoeur route eventually meaning the K% goes up, the BB%’s go down and the power fades, Power that really is not there to begin with.
He hasn’t shown a ton of power but he more than likely hasn’t reached his peak potential
Totally baffled by how Yelich is a high risk player.
He is just 26 and in 3 of the last 4 season Yelich has put up 4.5 fWAR and now he moves into a hitter-friendly ballpark in Milwaukee. I would say that is the opposite of high risk.
Milwaukee is only hitter-friendly in that it has an above-average home-run rate. Yelich has a career gb rate of 52%, and last year it was 60%. You can’t hit homers on the ground.
Sorry, I was misinformed. His career gb rate is 59% and it was 55.4% last year.
Is Brinson an opening day starter with Miami?
he’s good enough to be but the Marlins won’t do it they will mess with his service time
Yes. The other OF options in Miami are Lee, Sierra, and Van Slyke.
OH S*IT ! Lol, I wasn’t expecting this. My favorite NL team from last season just got yelich !
Any brew crew fans have Info on the prospects flipped ? Also keeping hader is big as I’m sure thevmarlins asked for him
how good the return was completely depends on Brinson if he hits and at least one of the other players has some value they made a good deal. but I don’t think that there’s enough to salvage the package if Brinson is a bust
Fangraphs did a pretty comprehensive Top 30 Prospects featuring MIL back in December.
Fangraphs had Brinson as the Brewers #1 prospect, a 60FV, and Harrison as the #3 prospect, a #55 FV. Diaz was #6 and Yamamoto was pretty far down the list.
fangraphs.com/blogs/top-30-prospects-milwaukee-bre…
Losing Brinson is the biggest hit. He destroyed AAA pitching last year and some projected him as a .270 40-40 guy.
Harrison wowwed in the fall league last year and at high A-ball, but he was the least developed OF prospect in an already logjammed situation.
Isaan Diaz has tremendous tools, but hasn’t yet hit consistently. Another A-ball prospect
Jordan Yamamoto strikes me as a throw in arm . . . decent stuff, but a definitely “wait and see” type of prospect. Honestly, I’m very surprised that the Marlins weren’t able to pry away a better SP prospect, like Brandon Woodruff, Luis Ortiz, or even Phil Bickford.
This feels like a bit of a steal: Brewers got a proven CF who hit well in a pitcher-friendly ballpark with a team-friendly 5-year contract and simultaneously cleared up their OF logjam. Meanwhile, the Marlins got the Brewers’s best overall prospect, but supplemented by only three A-ball guys and no serious pitching prospects. Wow.
Rickie Weeks was projected to have 40-40 potential too.
I don’t think Yelich will see much CF, he’s better as a corner OFer.
2AAA players
and 2A players go to Miami! Good trade for the Brewers!
The brewers end up giving up their #1, 6, and 14th best prospects. Yamamoto isn’t ranked according to mlb.com. To not give up any of their top or mid level rated pitching prospects is awesome. Sad to see Diaz go, you hear a lot of good things about him. This is hopefully something that works out for both teams. Yelich is already a stud, I’m happy to have him as a brewer fan.
great deal brewers still have Phillips, Hiura and all of their top pitching prospects
Here come the all Brewers fans that said they’d never trade Brinson, GM isn’t that dumb and now he’s a genius and best GM in baseball
David Stearns doesn’t get enough credit for the work he’s done in Milwaukee. Get him a front-end starter, and this team wins the division by at least 5 games.
Unbelievable what he’s doing there.
Awesome
Its for lewis brinson, isan diaz, monte harrison, and jordan yamamoto
So basically, Brewers just traded their top prospect, #7 overall prospect in baseball per mlb pipeline, plus their #5 and #9 per BA for…..Christian Yelich?
I just don’t understand the logic in unloading that much for a left fielder with limited power who is a high risk for a Jeff Franceour type of decline. Not saying he will become Franceour Im saying hes a higher risk of regressing in a similar way as Franceour did.
While they paid a lot for Yelich.. his power numbers will only increase going from Miami to Milwaukee.
just wondering why do you see Jeff Francoeur as a comp to yelish he is Young can play center and it’s been improving all of the last 4 years
Diaz is their second best 2b prospect behind hiura so he’s expendable. Harrison hurts a bit but Santana is still young and Philips could potentially develop at the plate. they gave up zero top pitching prospects so that is a win.
Just curious where you came up with the Franceour comp. He had a big arm & high K rate. I don’t see Yelich leaking oil at an early age like Frenchy did
Agree wtf are we doing!!!!!!!!!
Do you have any other comparison than Francouer? Dont even know if Francouer is a good comparison.
Francoeur was clearly a regression candidate because of his severe issues with patience and pitch recognition. Yasiel Puig is a much better comparison.
Yelich is a 25 year old, established, 5 tool player. That’s different.
He is a const controlled 4.5 WAR player who is 26. It’s pretty simple. He’s a pure hitter who lives in a big ballpark. He’s a plus defender and a pretty good base runner. Enter him to Mil and he’s a tremendous all around baseball player. He also enters a lineup that was significant swing and miss. It should be a no brainer especially in this market. A market where they can sign Cain flip Yelich to LF and Braun to right. While also getting a nice haul for Santana. It makes to much sense, especially if they can upgrade their rotation. If they do so, they pretty much evolved from a lineup that was going to K, turn and burn to a potentially all around dangerous lineup. Prospect hugging doesn’t always work, especially in a market like this. A market where a team like Mil can score big. This market favors the Brewers, so it’s fun to kind of see them trying to win. Yeah I’d make this trade time after time.
Check your MLBPipeline again. Then check BA.
Then compare this to the Adam Eaton haul for the White Sox. Great trade for the Brewers.
measuring by fWAR, Yelich had almost as much value just last season as Francoeur did in his entire career, and Yelich will be 26 all season and has 4 more years of control beyond that… Oh, and that 4.5 fWAR season that he just put up? That’s his 3rd one through his age 25 season…. GTFO with comparing him to Jeff Francoeur
Those rankings on MLB pipeline haven’t been updated for this season yet. Looking at their positional rankings, you can see that Brinson has fallen to a 55 FV which will probably put him in their #15-25 range, which would coincide with BA which dropped him slightly to their #18 prospect for this year. It’s a similar return to what Eaton received last year, but a little stronger.
Because they had better prospects ahead of these guys at their positions
So they traded from depth. They can now sign pitching or trade from still more outfield depth for pitching!
I’m here for the hot takes.
Keon broxton and phillips are gone. Starting outfield should be satana, yellich, cain if not braun. They would be foolish to trade santana.
No it wouldn’t if it nets them an upper rotation starting pitcher. Phillips can start in the outfield.
As a Cards fan, good for Milwaukee. I am not taking them lightly as competition whatsoever. Should be a fun year in the NL Central (unless you’re the Bucs or Reds).
Cards need to respond with JDM or Abreu.
Nah, I love Abreu but I don’t want to give up Reyes or Weaver or any SP depth really, and JDM makes more sense in the AL. If they could get him short term I’d be all for it, but no way that happens.
I’m actually good with our lineup as it is now. If anything I’d prefer to go after a closer and an innings-eater for the rotation, but I’m okay with waiting until the TDL and making moves then if necessary. I’m pumped for this season, I like the moves they made.
No Reyes or Weaver. We’ll lake Kelly and Delvin.
No way! Way too much for JDM! Plus the OF is set! The Sox want too much for Abreau, like Kelly or Reyes
and that’s not gonna happen. Plus there are lots of 1B types like Abreau on the market !
I can’t wait for the Brinson trade speculation thread in 3 years
You wonder if they will open up the check book for darvish or arietta
As for the marlins they might as well sell bour and Realmuto now
I wish the Cards would trade for Bour
and Straily ! Then sign Holland to be the closer! Then they would be set!
Definitely bad news for Lorenzo Cain’s market.
I wouldn’t be so sure about that.
I think this puts the Brewers over-under on wins at about 85, accounting for some regression in the pitching staff.
VERY surprised that Stearns managed to pull this off without giving up any of his top pitching prospects. With Yelich in the fold, the Brewers can afford to have a few less OF prospects.
that could be true, unless they acquire a starting pitcher,like Arrieta or Yu Darvish
A good point. My brother suggested the same thing: that if they managed to pull off a trade like this, they MIGHT be a tad more aggressive in the FA SP market.
Nice pickup, they could also sign Eduardo Nunez to play 2nd and batting is set.
As someone said above this extremely hurts Cain’s market. The free agents will get desprate now as the season looms
Today, January 25, 2018 is the day the Cubs lost the division. Yelich is going to get even better with the Brewers. A very good Brewers team on paper has been upgraded to a great team on paper. Add this to the non-existent Cubs off season where they have lost a top flight closer in Davis, a top flight starter in Arrietta, the heart and soul of the team in Lackey (2017 David Ross) and the de facto team captain in John Jay and have not really replaced them with anyone of note and you have the first season where the Brewers go in as favorites in a very long time. Seriously- when was the last time the Brewers were the early favorite to win a division?
The brewers starting staff will hold them back if not upgraded imo
2011: That offseason they acquired Zack Grienke and Shaun Marcum, and the Cardinals’s Adam Wainright was out before the season even began. The Brewers won the division that year.
I don’t know if this move puts the Brewers ahead of the Cubs, but it certainly puts the pressure on them.
Also: ABSOLUTELY AGREE that Yelich will be better as a Brewer. He put up impressive numbers at very pitcher friendly ballpark, and how he’s moving to a very hitter friendly ballpark.
Lol give me what your smoking. You act like Yelich Harper or Trout. Lol
Cubs are fine and still favoured by the way to win the Div. If they get Darvish they be favoured to come out the NL
Next
Yankeeaddction. Lol.
If ? If your Aunt had balls, she would be your Uncle!
None and still aren’t lol
That would be the 16th time yankeeaddict has posted this bs. We should make a drinking game out of it.
What an embarrassing comment.
As a Marlins, im actually ok with this haul. Not an overpay by any means, a fair trade indeed. Woulda liked a little better but all good.
The Marlins got the Brewers #1, #5, #9 according to BA (or #1, #3, #6 according to Fangraphs) prospects and a lottery ticket pitching prospect.
Either way that is an outstanding return.
Win/Win trade.
You’re not upset that they didn’t get a bona fide pitching prospect?
The Marlins didn’t need another pitching prospect. They got 7 of those in their previous 4 trades since the new ownership took over including at least two that will start for them this season.
What they did not have many of before this trade was MLB ready OF prospects and they have now traded away all 3 of their starting OF from 2017.
Brinson fit their needs perfectly and he was the Brewers top prospect.
The middle of the order right now for the brewers could be
2 yelich
3 Santana
4 brawn
5 Shaw
Thoughts ?
Rather have
2. Segura
3. Cano
4. Cruz
5. Seager
6. Haniger
You got your L/R batting order unbalanced. Probably:
2. Yelich (L)
3. Braun (R)
4. Shaw (L)
5. Santana (R)
1. Cain
2. Yelich
3. Braun
4. Santana
5. Shaw
And where does that 4th OF play when they face a NL team?
Softball rules have been adapted for 2018. Didn’t you hear? Braun is shifting over to Left Center.
Rover
They have talked about using Braun at 1B . So maybe they trade Thames!
This pisses me off no way in hell is this guy worth giving up Brinson and Diaz As a Brewers fan I am more then Pissed This is officially one of the worst trades the Brewers have ever done
Diaz was the second best 2b prospect in their system and they also have dubon. they gave up zero top pitching prospects so it’s actually a win.
I understand why Diaz, and Harrison were expendable I hope they flourish in Miami. I definitely can see Brinson, Harrison and Diaz being everyday players in Miami. I even would have thrown Villar and Castro in the deal. Now do the Brewers make a trade with Santana for a top pitcher like Duffy or even a higher pitcher and sign Yu? I’m just not sold on the Brewers going all in quite yet. Time will only tell.
Seems like less then the Sox got for Eaton and he was older
The white Sox royally screwed the Nats with the Eaton trade Eaton was never that good anyway. The brewers over paid for yelich. I feel sorry for the players going to Miami. They’ll be traded within 2 years.
You a little slow?
Why? It’s the truth. Brewers gave up too much for a player that is guaranteed to be traded again or leave when he’s a FA in 2 or 3 years. I’d be shocked if he stayed the remainder of his deal with the brewers.
He won’t be a FA until 2023. But good try
You do know he’s essentially cheap for 5 years right? So he might leave as an FA after 5 so you might want to recheck that.
Such nonsense, why even bother?
It’s very similar. Nats gave up two 55 FV SP (Giolito, Lopez) and a 50 FV SP (Dunning). The Brewers just gave up two 55 FV OF (Brinson, Harrison), a 50 FV 2B (Diaz) and a 45 FV SP (Yamamoto). All things considered it was a nice return for the Marlins and a good trade for Milwaukee.
From one bad franchise to another and from o e rebuild to another. I feel sorry for him. He’ll be traded either in July or the next off season.
Brewers won 86 games last year and their core is intact. You, on the other hand, are a few dollops of tartar sauce short of a fish sandwich.
At best they’ll finish 3rd 30 games under .500. They started off hot. That’s all and were ice cold at the end.
Lol @Cubs fans.
As a Cubs fan I officially disavow this idiot.
Thank you!
As a Marlins fan, this by far hurts the most. It bothers me even more that they wait all this time, still having not moved the pieces they need to move, and all of the sudden, its so important to make this move now, and not get back full value, as usual. I’m happy about Brinson in terms of finally at least getting back some talent, but they should have got another piece, or an upgrade on one of the other prospects they got back. Marlins should have got more than what the White Sox got for Eaton, and I’m not sure they even approach it at all, and that’s just another example of the Marlins not getting back full value on anything, ever.
I hear you. I think you hit the nail right on the head: Brinson is the only truly valuable piece here. The others are decent prospects, but could easily lose value by the time they make it to AAA . . . if they even make it that far.
The Marlins got the Brewers #1, #5, #9 according to BA (or #1, #3, #6 according to Fangraphs) prospects and a lottery ticket pitching prospect.
Brinson will be the Marlins starting CF in 2018. Monte Harrison is the real deal. Has a cannon arm, great speed, and in the AFL he absolutely crushed advanced competition. Diaz is a good 2B prospect. Yamamoto is a lottery ticket.
All in all that is a great return.
I would have liked a little more safe projection than Brinson and Harrison, who have long had swing and miss issues, although they are both big time athletes. I also wouldn’t have minded a higher upside arm, considering the need in that department. Marlins definitely get a decent return, but it still should have been better, which has been the issue with this organization for I dont even know how many years at this point
I agree. Pretty good trade for the Marlins!
Really nice Prospect analysis.
Not a fan of either team, But still interesting to assess the prospect haul, nonetheless. Yelich posted .282/.369/.439 slash line, 18 homers, 81 RBI, 100 runs, and 16 stolen bases in 695 plate appearances.
Yelich was under a team-friendly contract, that fully guarantees him $44.5 million through 2021, with 2022 club option.
If Brewers pick up 2022 club option, that extends team-control to five years $58.25 million. Nice!
Adam Eaton was coming off a God-like year in Chicago. Yelich has a favorable contract but isn’t even in the clouds yet. Can’t make this comparison. Nats went big on a BIG guy. Milwaukee went fair on a FAIR guy.
I’m not a Marlins fan but I agree with you. Marlins were too anxious to get their hands on a top 10 prospect which hurt their ability to get more quality players. Hopefully Brinson works out well for them in that he becomes the next Yelich or better, but for a team just beginning a rebuild with a bottom 5 farm system they needed more quality prospects in the deal. I’d be very curious at what the other offers for Yelich were around baseball.
I bet it crossed Hahn’s mind he could have Jimenez, Robert and Yelich in 2020, but Miami has no outfielders and I bet White Sox would only offer a rather good SP and RP prospect, maybe Avi Garcia. Wouldn’t be surprised if it was tried. Problem is Miami needs 3 OF.
An outstanding return for Miami. All four make the top ten prospect list- with Brinson and Harrison one and two.
Lol what? Harrison will not be #2. Diaz is a higher rated prospect. Brinson #1 for sure. Who knows after that. Possibly Diaz #2 and Harrison around #7-10
Harrison is a higher rated prospect than Diaz for 2018. If you are a Marlins fan you are going to really like him. Cannon arm, good power, great speed, great defense. He went to the AFL and absolutely crushed advanced pitching to the tune of 10 HR in 26 games.
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Brinson #1, Harrison #3, Diaz #5 or #6 in Marlins system.
Yamamoto doesn’t. He projects as a relief pitcher. And Harrison was the Brewers 3rd best prospect, not 2nd.
He is saying that they will be #1 and #2 in the Marlins system and he is probably right.
Latest Marlins top 30 prospect list doesn’t have Yamomoto. He said all four would be there.
BTW it is Brinson 1, Harrison 2 and Diaz 9 (for the sake of intellectual honesty).
I stand corrected. You and Outfield were correct. I am shocked Diaz isnt higher. I know the offensive numbers were down in 2017 but im not concerned, the bat will come back around. I do love Harris but i also love Diaz’s potential and youth.
Brewers got a lot better today. They need help in the rotation. Likely destination for Jake ?
Still have some assets to move like Broxton and Phillips (blocked)
Cubs have a little pressure if they make a move or two like that
I don’t see Phillips going anywhere. He’s still very low on his service time, two option years left, and an 80 grade arm . . . Perfect for a 4th outfielder, and maybe even better later on.
I have no idea what the Brewers are planning for Broxton . . . they’ll probably keep him as the 4th outfielder for now, but I think he’s out of option years.
So what’s next for Miami ? If I’m the nats I’m calling on Realmuto ASAP as they were discussing him last month I believe. This is the signal of the marlins having a fire sale and teams need to jump on him quick if interested
The Marlins would be happy to take Robles, Fedde and a couple of lower level guys off the Nationals hands for Realmuto. Get ‘er done.
I’m sure they would be happy to get Robles and Fedde for Realmuto. That would be a better package than they just got for Yelich and Realmuto comes with 2 less years of control.
Just when you think the Marlins couldn’t get fleeced any harder. You would think they would have gotten Ortiz or Phillips out of the deal. Brinson is a good prospect but Diaz is probably the next best and he still K’s WAY too much.
The question now does Realmuto just retire or not show up for spring training. What a screw job for the tax payers. Here is some money for a new stadium and we got a AAA team to play in it.
What about Starlin Castro?
And then there was 1
Starlin is going to change his name and become a free agent.
Sure thought they would get more than that. I like Brinson but gee whiz!
Well the NL Central has taken two marlins already. There maybe more marlins to the NL central.
Well it won’t be Jose
What an awful comment.
Very likely to happen- just not to the Cubs.
Bitterness.
This is great! Now The Brews and Cards can battle for 2nd place. Bless their little hearts.
Exactly! And the offseason ain’t done yet. Darvish, Cobb or Arrieta to Cubs before Spring Training.
Brewers still have sooooo much flexibility. They can deal Broxton to the Giants for Austin Slater who needs another year or 2 in the high minors, and sign both Cain and Darvish or Arrieta. Not sure who the odd man out will be in the OF, but it’s a pleasant problem to have.
They DID just sign Cain!!!!!
Wanted to see him in a Braves jersey but I’m kinda glad we still have all of our top prospects in tow, for now at least. Maybe we’ll land Realmuto.
I think it was best for ATL to not make that trade. Not to mention being a divisional rival it would have driven the price up
I agree on the division thing. Oh well, moving on. Braves have a bright future. As do the Marlins if you are very very very very very far sighted. Brewers just got a lot better.
Desperation move.
Desperation move how??? Seems like someone is just hating.
I am going to kick the ass of Derek Jeter if he didn’t make Yelich available on similar terms to the #Cardinals. I am going to kick the ass of John Mozeliak if Jeter DID make him available and Mo wouldn’t pay
So odd man out would be….fowler? Who we just spent too much on…not good biz
You’ll do foookin’ noootin’
Michael Hill is the GM of the Marlins
and is the guy in charge! Jeter is just the CEO
Nice pick up. They were better gab expected last year and this definitely makes them better I think. Curious to see if they get Arrieta or Darvish.
Im one of the bigger Yelich fans around, and thats a big haul for him. Thats 3 potential top 100 prospects and a underrated pitcher. This is a good ole baseball trade
I feel horrible for Castro to be honest. The trade was great for ny but for him to be that close to the World Series while being with a top contender only to go to the marlins must hurt him a lot inside
Yeah, it’s gotta be tough. All those years in Chicago to be shipped off right on the edge of contention. And now the same w/ New York. Still gets to play a game for millions of dollars, so I think he’ll be alright. Will probably get moved at the deadline when injuries open up needs around the league. Just hope he doesn’t get shipped off to the Reds or something. Might need a life coach at that point.
By 2021-2022, this will be a good deal for the marlins if Diaz, brinson and Harrison live up to their potential and Miami’s pitching prospects liken alcantara and Guzman develop well… All three guys acquired in this trade has all star potential but I don’t think any of them become stars. Yelich will not be a star but I do think he develops into a 25 hr, 100 rbi guy annually… But this trade, As a marlin fan, hurts a lot… Stanton we all kinda knew he was gone. Ozuna, had a feeling about him going too as well as Gordon. But a guy due 7 million?? Under control for 5 seasons and such a polished hitter? Yelich is the real deal and a guy you rebuild around. Might as well trade Realmuto now.. Idk Man, won’t be able to support the Marlins from here on out. It’s been too hard for the past 15-20 Years.
Im probably one of the bigger Yelich fans around, and thats a big haul. Three potential top 100 prospects and an underrated arm. This is a good ole baseball trade
ok where is Bigfoot and the others who swore this would never happen?
4 more players left until the Yankees have a new MiLB affiliate.
Now that we see what Yelich actually pulled in for the Marlins what would it take the Braves to get Realmuto ???
Wouldn’t mind taking back Prado with him
How about one Soroka or Anderson, Cruz, and Turnok
A 60 FV prospect, a 55FV prospect, a 50 FV prospect, and a lottery ticket. Take your pick of Braves prospects.
Gohara is a 55FV prospect. So are most of the Braves top pitching prospects.
Maybe Flowers, Gohara, Soroka, and Pache for Realmuto and Tazawa. With The Braves taking Tazawa’s contract to balance Flowers contract.
That might be a little light because the trade is in division, so add a lottery ticket like Morris?
I think the Nationals are a better fit because they have Robles to headline a deal and the Marlins are still in need of MLB ready OF prospects.
As I’m a long time Brewer fan I’m ecstatic. I truly believe Yelich is an up and coming star. Hits for average which the Brewers need. Contract is extremely friendly for a small market club. Yes Brinson could be a stud but he isn’t currently….and to get Yelich without trading any of our young pitchers even better…so many times in the past we’ve given up young talent for a half a season…need to trade talent to get talent…and to trade prospect for proven talent, a no brainer…Brinso didn’t exactly knock the socks off it last year..now all we need is darvish…DO NOT GET ARRIETA.
What’s scary is the Cards think they win the division because of Osuna. They have no closer and won’t spend on a SP.
Milw gets Yelich and they think they have won a title.
Yanks get Stranton but need a SP who they can’t afford right now and have an old over paid cf they can’t give away and 3rd basecrhey hope some prospect will cover
What’s scary they all played together and still were a below 500 team. That is scary. Lol
FYI- Offseason isn’t over.
It’s Ozuna & Stanton, not Osuna & Stranton. If you’re going to make idiotic comments, at least have the courtesy to spell correctly.
This looks to be a good trade, both teams got what they needed. Only time will tell with the prospects, but the Marlins top prospects were pitchers before the trade. Now they have added some position players. I would think they try to get position players for Realmuto. Hill, Jeter, and Dembo have moved in the right direction.
As a result of this trade, either Cain to the Giants if they’re willing to go over the tax threshold or if not they’ll be trading for Broxton. Either way, this trade just made one of those happen.
I am SO GLAD that finally, the Yelich mess can be put to rest! I’m SO HAPPY that The Braves DID NOT trade for Yelich (because of what we’d had to give up to get him)!
Given how expensive starting pitching is…I’m a little ‘perplexed’ by the thought process that teams trading prospects have to give up MORE VALUE in pitching prospects..as opposed to hitting prospects…because hitters play everyday?
When BUMS like Tyler Chatwood are getting 3 year/$38 mil…and Ian Kennedy gets 5 years/$70 mil prior to 2016…..I’m a little confused to how much sense it would have made for Atlanta to have had to give up 2-3 pitching prospects like Soroka, Allard and Anderson..to ‘equal’ a Lewis Brinson (which is the main piece of what The Brewers gave up to get Yelich. The other three prospects The Brewers gave up…probably didnt equal COMBINED the ‘perceived value’ that Brinson seemingly represents to many).
Ernie Banks was a great Hall of Fame short stop for The Cubs. How many World Series did he go to/win? As great as Chipper Jones was for The Braves….he DOES NOT win a World Series WITHOUT Maddux, Smoltz and Glavine!
I love the potential that Ozzie Albies and Ronald Acuna brings to Atlanta. However, our long term success will be determined how the likes of Soroka, Allard, Wright, Anderson, Wentz, Wilson develop for The Braves….as well as Fried, Newcomb, Weigel, Tousiant, Muller, Davidson and Sanchez!
Sure, it would be nice if The Braves can sign Machado and Harper to hit homers in the middle of our lineup when The 2018 Free Agent Offseason arrives. However, a potentially more important signing…would be Craig Kimbrel to be THE HAMMER to stabilize our bullpen/give comfort to our young rotation that he’s there if they can get through the 6th-7th inning each time out come 2019!
Perhaps The Yelich Trade will work out for both The Brewers and The Marlins. However, it looks like I was ONCE AGAIN proven right by insisting that The Braves SHOULD NOT trade for Yelich! If Braves Management had panicked or foolishly believed that now was the right time to acquire a Yelich-like player…then The Marlins would have gotten A MUCH BETTER package from The Braves (probably something like their pick of 2 from Gohara, Soroka, Allard and Wright…as well as their pick of 2 from Wentz, Wilson, Anderson and Tousiant) than what they got from The Brewers! NO WAY would I want to see The Braves give The Marlins 4 potentially high ceiling pitching prospects (which would have JUMP STARTED The Marlins Rebuild by several years)!
That’s literally the first thing I thought when I saw the Brewers acquired Yelich from the Marlins. Once again, paullentz1972 was proven right.
I think it highly unlikely the Braves resign Kimbrel. First of all he’ll be getting what Chapman got and quite possibly more. Second the Braves are so deep in pitching prospects that I predict a few will end up in the pen probably as soon as the season starts. Point is with as many arms as the Braves have coming up this year and next they have no need to go out and pay the largest contract in baseball history to a closer.
tl;dr
The other day, some people complained about this site posting the latest blog from Tim Dillard because it had nothing to do with Trade Rumors.
I wonder if those same people will complain about this article since it’s a Trade “Confirmation”, not a rumor.
As the post mentions Yelich was actually just okay last year and that’s even more surprising consider the other 2 Marlins outfielders we’re having career best years at the plate. You’d think he was getting pitches to hit with Ozuna and Stanton there. He had just okay defensive ranks too. Milwaukee has an upgrade in CF, no question, but I am not sure this moves the needle in the standings as much as an upgrade to the rotation would do. Move is fine but to really make a push towards winning the Central there needs to be more pitching added via FA as the other shoe to drop.
The Brewers just signed Cain to a 5-year deal to play CF……..
Yelich in LF, Cain in CF…D. Santana in RF
Broxton & Phillips should bring a nice SP to the rotation.
That is a stunning signing. Braun is still going to get at-bats and not as a 4th OF. Is he traded or is Santana moved? Santana and Phillips would get them pretty much any starting pitcher available. Archer. Duffy.
What do we see next from the Brewers? Maybe both a trade and a FA signing of pitchers?
Broxton and/or Phillips traded probably. Santana back to RF
That still leaves 4 outfielders for 3 spots. I’d expect one of Broxton or Phillips to stay because they’re CF’s. Maybe not because Domingo or yelich can slide over. The real question is what do they do with braun or Santana? I’d imagine Domingo gets dealt. Either that or Braun starts playing some 1B but I don’t see that being very likely with Aguilar and Thames there. Somebody has to go.
4.5 fWAR is far above just ok.
Overheard at Marlins Park…”Starlin Castro, please report to the Transporter Room”.
But he’s in his prime years
I’d like to see Texas make a move for Broxton now.
Wow, Yelich is an awesome player, great trade for the Brew Crew
Add in Lo Cain too. Unreal. Braun to 1b. Sign walker and trade for a sp and we’re good to go.
Good to finish 3rd still. Bad pitching and adding a starter won’t help that much. Ugly bullpen too.
Finish 3rd still? Bruh they finished 2nd last year and their pitching wasn’t as bad as you think.
lol at the morons who said it would take a trout like haul for yelich. good work brewers
Rejoice Braves fans, now we get to keep all our precious prospects that will probably not amount to anything. We get to keep the “best farm system” stance so reassure ourselves that this team will ever win.
Wow you are my new favorite Braves fan. You actually know what you’re talking about.
Love the brew crew moves
Wonder if Bour will now request to be traded.
He might just stay since hes the only guy with experience with a better bat. And plus he still very affordable. If they trade him they should defitnetly get a pitching prospect who is almost ready and maybe include Barraclough to get more prospects. Barraclough should have been given a chance at closing to develop into a ground ball pitcher instead of just throwing heaters.
That’s all three of the Marlins (former) outfielders. Maybe Realmuto is next.
Wonder if the Brewers still have enough to trade for Archer yet.
As much as I wanted Christian Yelich the price the Brewers paid to get him was too much for my liking. Glad the Braves didn’t make a similar deal which would have included Acuna.
Good move for the Brewers. Im not sure if Cain was a good investment. I think the Brewers should have invested in a quality starting pitcher instead. Im shocked the Matlins did not get Philips in the trade. I still believe the Marlins should have build around Stanton since he can carry a lineup. Starting pitching should be a asset the Marlins should have established with keeping Stanton. I still look forward to see the future stars of the Marlins. You wont get a player like Stanton again. Yankees got a steal on Stanton.,
They still have payroll to sign Darvish if they want. They came into this season with tons of payroll flexibility and nobody is about to get expensive in the next couple of years.
Dab on the haters