There’s “buzz” that the Brewers are closing in on a trade, Jerry Crasnick of ESPN reports. Crasnick doesn’t offer any details about an exact trade partner or players involved, though he notes that the Brewers have been discussing outfielders with multiple teams (Twitter link).
At present, the Brewers have several outfielders who are either established major leaguers or players who are closing in on regular roles. The group includes Ryan Braun, Domingo Santana, Keon Broxton, Brett Phillips and Lewis Brinson. Ken Rosenthal of The Athletic reported earlier this month that the Brewers could move someone from that quintet for much-needed starting pitching and to open up room for free agent center fielder Lorenzo Cain. The 31-year-old Cain was a “frequent topic of conversation” for Milwaukee’s front office, Rosenthal wrote at the time.
If a deal does happen, it won’t be with San Francisco, according to Crasnick, even though the Giants and Brewers discussed Santana and Broxton earlier this offseason. The White Sox, on the other hand, are a possibility, Crasnick suggests (via Twitter).
Tom Haudricourt of the Milwaukee Journal Sentinel adds (on Twitter) that the Brewers have been shopping Santana since last month’s Winter Meetings, and he notes that they’re also in the market for second base help. Milwaukee received disappointing production at the keystone most of last season from Jonathan Villar, who remains in the fold. Villar’s down season led the Brewers to acquire Neil Walker last August. Although Walker thrived during his month and a half with the Brewers, he’s currently a free agent.
Their outfielders, the other team’s outfielders, or both of their outfielders?
So you either didn’t read or didn’t understand the article…..
Not everything gets posted at once you know.
not a trade, but Tom hardicourt says report out of Japan indicated brewers interested in darvish and made an offer.
what the heck kind of rumor is this? no idea which player is involved or teams. really helpful…
This isn’t much different than the standard MLBTR format. If there’s a rumor mentioned, they’ll make a post. As more information comes, they’ll add.
It’s a free article, for crying out loud.
But you heard it here first
feel free not to read it
You obviously came late to the party. When this artical was first posted, it only had the first paragraph. It was quite comical before the next few paragraphs were added.
Generally that is what happens when they have a significant rumor through legitimate sources. They post something short then start filling in the information as soon as more info becomes available (or they’ve had a chance to type a few more particulars).
Are you suggesting that when MLBTR heard the rumor from a credible source they should have sat on it until they knew more? Personally, if there’s a rumor that a team is close to making trade, I’d like to know about it no matter how thin the details. The details will come, and I enjoy the anticipation of finding out who and where. But this is how information comes out in baseball. If that frustrates you I’d suggest you visit some other less than immediate site.
yeah, it was only one paragraph… then the writers updated the article conveniently leaving off “edited”. making anyone who commented on the earlier version look dumb.
I agree. I mean it says rumors in the name of the site. Its not mlbtradefacts
I like these sorts of rumors.
They need a poll attached to them:
The trade that goes through will be a letdown for:
1) Both parties
2) The Brewers
3) Those other guys
4) Snarky posters of MLBTraderumors.com
5) Help80.com
it’s a rumour they are close to an undisclosed trade.
You can’t report what is not disclosed
Just have Jeff make something up c’mon guys
i love how the article gets progressively longer…..more info…whats gonna happen….thanks MLBTR!
I agree, this is a testament to how painfully boring this offseason has been when the rumor of a trade rumor is newsworthy. “We have no idea who’s being traded, we also have no idea who they might be trading for and we also have no idea what team they might be trading with, but we can confirm that there is a chance that the Brewers might be discussing a trade that might involve an outfielder. Stay tuned for more breaking news on this potential breaking news”.
You missed such key info as “If a deal does happen, it won’t be with San Francisco”
28 teams remain.
THE NAME OF THE WEBSITE IS TRADE RUMORS!!!!!
IF YOU CAME HERE FOR TRADE NEWS YOU’RE A TROGLODYTE
Lol, Troglodyte will now climb the ranks of Google Searches for the day.
Yes, for all 8 people who read this comment and care.
Well you would have to be a Neanderthal to not know what Troglodyte means !
not true
Multiple sources are stating that the Brewers submitted a formal offer to Darvish this afternoon.
As the other post mention, this is a blog site that gets updated as information is available. The old format made this more obvious, so if you’re relatively new to the site it might not be obvious. MLBTR doesn’t have reporters or journalists. What they do is scan all available sources for any news or rumors about baseball, and consolidate that information for everyone. This includes local news, national news, team focused blogs, team press releases, etc, etc…
That said, it would be helpful if the article showed what information is new and when it was added. Some articles do this but it seems to be random these days.
I hope this trade involves Broxton and not Phillips or Brinson
Probably Broxton to the Giants, that would be my guess.
YES
Hey if the Giants land Broxton they might actually sneak across .500
It already said it wasn’t the Giants
It’s Broxton to the Giants for Stratton
is this your guess…..? man that would be tough, we need a CF but Stratton will likely be in our rotation this year
Your guess is that it involves literally the one team that the article says will not be part of the trade. Bold strategy Cotton
Broxton doesn’t have any value. He’s a throw in at best.
A guy who goes 20-20 with above average defense in center is a “throw in”?
You just hurt his mom’s feelings
he’s a young controllable piece so he has some value she’s not going to bring back top prospects but I could see him flipped for a decent reliever.
A team is getting close to giving a 2/12 contract to Jarrod Dyson. Broxton is a better younger version so he has some value.
those two are nothing alike except both have speed I guess.
You’re right, it was a loose connection.
My guess. Harrison for Villar!!
I’m in. Harrison would be great for crew
Giants
Probably a small trade. If it was bigger the names would have been leaked
Broxton for Ellsbury my sauces tell me
Are your sources Yankee fans?
Your sauces? Are you chef sinschifan?
I have fat fingers
I heard that about you
No he just can’t spell trying to troll Yankee fans as usual!
Don’t bring that weak sauce in here meat!
Why would Milwaukee want Ellsbury?
Because the Yankees would be attaching Gleyber Torres and one other top prospect to send him anywhere haha.
Torres is an overpay
For real the Brewers have no chance at contending in the next 5 years, they shouldn’t be buying anything.
They only won 86 games last year. They were literally contending just last season…
I beg to differ the Brewers will be contending very shortly, and by the way they did contend last year
Clearly didn’t watch baseball last year.
Ellsbury is buying for MKE??? What?
You will have to excuse him. For Yankee fans baseball is only played in like 4 cities.
I was not talking about last season pal. Take a read next time before you make yourself look this incoherent
Oh yes you’re so superior. Conqueror of the trolls. My hero.
The fact is that the Brewers played way over their heads last year. They are projected for 24th place in the Majors this year, after the Phillies. fangraphs.com/depthcharts.aspx?position=Standings
What was I talking about?? Not last year. Next 5… You must have had trouble with your reading comprehension.
I’m not a yankee fan. I’m realistic
When you have nothing else to say, accuse the person of misreading you and insult them. Classic.
They were literally contenders last season. Now, any person with two brain cells to rub together will notice a few things:
1. They’ve lost almost no one through free agency. The worst is a starter via injury (who could be back sooner than many think)
2. They have tons of reinforcements coming through the ranks.
If they contended last season, and they are poised to be better, younger, and adding pieces, it would be utterly moronic to suggest they won’t contend again.
This wasn’t a case of anyone being incoherent. It was a case of you having no flipping clue what you’re talking about.
do you follow baseball? the brewers played solid all year. the team is on the rise and anyone who doubts that just doesnt follow the game. such a stupid post.
Take it up with Fangraphs, which rightly projects the Brewers for 24th place in 2018
“Rightly projects”
That’s quite the oxymoron.
that’s a projection made before the season even starts… can’t really take that for all it’s worth… rosters change everyday
So how they performed last season has no bearing on what we can expect over the next five years? Everything you say makes zero sense
Where did Fangraphs project the Brewers last season? How about the Diamondbacks? The Twins?
Yeah, I thought so.
For real, you don’t know anything about the game of baseball !
Bingo!
That’s what I’m hearing as well. Yankees want out of Ellsburys contract willing to take anything in return. I’d almost rather stick with what we have then trade for ellsbury we are getting rid of a trade piece for something we don’t need but I’m not a gm I guess
I’m hearing the same thing
Yelich
lol…you’re funny
Travis Shaw to the Yankees was a minor rumor I heard a week or two ago
That would only make sense if Moose signs with MKE.
You never know
There’s no way they get rid of cheap controllable Shaw to get less years, more costly, older moose
Moustakas would likely be a 5 year deal. I don’t like it for the Brewers either but if Shaw is moved then Stearns will fill 3rd with someone who has proven he can hit MLB pitching.
David Stearns literally laughed at the notion of trading Shaw on the radio last week after the rumor came out. He isn’t going anywhere.
A straight up trade Bernie the brewer for the Phillie phanatic , 10 yr deal worth all the peanuts!
Very interesting. I love stories like this..makes you wonder and has you guessing what it might be. Are they giving away any of their outfielders? Are they trading for a pitcher? Is it a small trad wit a big trade? Kind of can’t wait to hear what it is lol
Ryan Braun, Lewis Brinson, Orlando Arcia and Corey Knebel to the Jays for Luke Maile. Trust me, I’m an insider.
Are you sure about that? Seems like a bit of an overpay on the Blue Jays side. Although that would give Toronto some much needed outfield depth LOL
I’m hearing now from my sources that the Jays have indeed balked at the Brewers’ request for Luke Maile; he’s simply too valuable to part with. New negotiations have the same players heading to Toronto for Ezekiel Carrera and $100,000.
hmm. I guess I can live with that
You forgot Jimmy Nelson
and Chase Anderson
Rumor is it teams will play baseball games this year.
That’s just a rumor
whoa whoa whoa…. lets get through football playoffs and half a season of basketball before we start talkin crazy here…
Who is your source?
Is it #Scoutseyes? LoL
hmmm…..I want to believe you……
Broxton to the Giants
I’d love to believe that
Either Broxton or Shaw to the Braves for Tehran
Those are two pretty different possibilities …
I said Broxton, meant Santana.
I mean, they are spelled almost exactly the same…
Brewer’s choice? Hmmm tough one but Broxton for Julio you got a deal!
Pretty crazy for Keon when he had a 20-20 year and still considered somewhat a disappointment.
Could it be the 175 K’s in only 414 AB’s (42.3%). To put that in perspective, that’s higher than the career pcts. of Rob Deer, Gorman Thomas and Jose Hernandez. Only Mark Reynolds (2010), Adam Dunn (2011), and Chris Carter (2013) can compete with that horrific percentage.
HR’s and SB’s look good on paper, but don’t tell the whole story.
Insane strikeout percentage. U know its bad when the comps are Reynolds, Carter, and Dunn. At least Reynolds and Dunn were useful. Carter has always amazed me. Led the league in homeruns in 2016 with 41 and was then non tendered which is near impossible. Until you see that despite 41 homeruns he couldn’t muster 1 win above replacement (.9 WAR.) 158 homeruns in 8 seasons (nice 34 a year average) yet only accumulative WAR of 2.4. Trout picks up 2.4 in about two months. Literally like the least valuable player of all time.
My dark horse is the Royals. But I’m still on the edge about that one, too.
I’m gonna guess no to KC
I could see a danny duffy deal
seems risky to trade a guy on probation for a DUI to milwaukee… but i’m sure gallardo will help him through any troubles
Why is it risky in Milwaukee and not in every other MLB city in America? It’s not like he can’t get alcohol in the other cities too ! Such a dumb comment!
Probably AJ PRELLER and the Padres…
This just in: brewers aren’t close to a trade per mlb trade rumors
Milwaukee Brewings
Milwaukee Brewmors
Broxton to the Giants makes sense. Wonder what they’re getting back
Now I just sit here and continuously refresh the page awaiting further news
Just get the app and put setting for push notifications. You’ll get a notification when something happens….or just refresh
DiPoto hasn’t made a trade for a few weeks. The other party has to be Seattle.
Lol I was thinking the odds have to be high that it’s with Seattle. Except Dipoto said he’s done adding to the 25 man.
A Brewers mystery trade, ooooh…
Probably trading for an outfielder
Travis Shaw to cards for jack flaherty? 🙂
No
Lol typical cub fan ur just mad that ur cubbies just got a #5 starter while loosing your #1 starter while the cardinals are getting better. You are just scared because the cardinals are getting better.
Also cards minor league pitching staff is way better than the cubs major league pitching staff.
You’re pretty arrogant for a Cardinals fan. You’re giving the rest of us a bad name. Also, you obviously don’t understand what a “troll” is. None of that matters. The only thing that really offended me about your statement is that you accused me of being a dirty cubs fan. I said no because I don’t see Shaw as an upgrade. I don’t mind giving up Flaherty for a decent return though.
I’m sorry for what I accused you of, I feel like I was in the moment.
Anyways Shaw to cardinals wouldn’t happen anyways due to them both being in the same division.
Haha no worries. In fairness, my response probably wouldn’t have been so assertive had I not been sitting behind a keyboard. I would have liked to have seen them pick up a corner infeilder this off season. I like Gyorko. I like the idea of him as a utility man better and don’t want to see Carp anywhere but first base.
I agree more than I think about it gyroko has been the cards main source of power the least few years.
Funny how fast he changed his tune when he found out you are in fact not a Cubs fan. What a tool. Your response was perfect.
Yeah. Shaking in our boots.
Loosing? Is that compared to tightening ?
No
Okay we will just see I guess, time will tell. Just stating my opinion.
Just saying without arrieta and your rotation stays how it is that would be a nightmare for Cubs
as long as we get something back they can help the major league roster I’m happy. we did the teardown now it’s time to put the build in rebuilt
chris archer….
It’ll be tough for the Brewers to put a package together for Archer. Lewis is decent, but does the system have any other top 50 prospects? According to Baseball America, Woodruff is the next best prospect, but he’s not even ranked in the top 10 RHP in MLB’s most recent ranking. The Brewers could swing a Colome or Odorizzi trade, but I don’t see Archer.
Hiura and Harrison are both in the 50 range with Hiura having a 60+ hit tool. but the brewers top 12 or so prospects all are in the top 100 on one list or another
While I know that the Brewers definitely have enough prospects to deliver a package for Archer, I think that your boast of 12 top 100’s is a bit of an exaggeration. Admittedly all prospect lists are on someone’s snapshot in time of their opinion of prospect evaluation, but the highest number of one teams prospects on a top 100 list I’ve seen was eight. Maybe I’ve missed someone being especially enamored with the Brewers farm system.
I don’t think they meant that all 12 were in the top 100 on the same list. Different lists rank guys differently. One guy might crack the list but not another and vice versa.
BA might disagree with your assessment of Hiura and Harrison being top 50 prospects, as they are the 4th and 5th ranked prospects in the system. That being said, I like Hiura a lot and could see him being around top 50. At the end of the day, any trade for Archer would require Brinson, and the Rays would have to love Brinson to pull the trigger on this type of trade. I don’t love Brinson, but that’s just me.
I meant that the top 12 prospects were all on one of 4 or 5 different top 100 lists not 12 on any single one. those 12 being Brinson Hader Woodruff Phillips Burnes Hiura Harrison Ortiz Erceg Diaz Ray Lutz
Archer is the player that came to my mind when I saw this article. I’ve been predicting that an Archer trade will take at least a 60 FV, 55 FV and 50 FV prospects to get the Rays interested. While the Brewers are one of the few teams who do have a 60 FV prospect in Brinson, I’m with you that I just don’t love him. Out of all the 60 grade guys out there, he is probably my least favorite and the Brew Crew is one of the few orgs where I would rather have 3 55 grade prospects than a 60, 55 and 50. A package centered around Hiura, Harrison and Burnes should get the Rays attention and one that I would prefer over say Brinson, Burnes and Erceg.
The Brewers have a quality system, but Hader graduated off and Erceg, Diaz, Ray and Lutz are not top 100 on any quality prospect ranking lists.
Ray and Diaz were on multiple Top 100 prospect lists last year. Most notably MLB.com (59 and 86) Lutz just had a great first year in rookie/A ball and it with a solid start to next season will probably be mentioned on some top 100 lists.
You may be right, but I think the Brewers should set their sights on Odorizzi or Colome instead. I just don’t see the Rays “settling” for an OK trade package for Archer. The trade deadline or next year’s off season can net us an OK package just as easily as this offseason.
No doubt Ray and Diaz were, but both took steps back this past year as prospects and Lutz will need to do it again at higher levels before he has a chance to crack any lists. Please understand I’m not trying to knock the Brewers system who I think is a top 10 in baseball system. It’s just that they don’t currently have 12 guys even in consideration as top 100 types, more like 5-7.
BA has Hiura as their #2 prospect and #47 overall.. Harrison is 75 overall. Think you may be looking at a list from last season.
I’m going to go out on a limb and guess it’s something with the Red Sux that includes one of Domingo Santana or Ryan Braun.
But based on MLBTRs recent failures in reporting trades prematurely, I’m a tad bit wary.
not really their fault on the Cole trade some of the biggest baseball insiders reported it so what are they supposed to do
Any of the Brewers outfielders to CLE for Kipnis.
Does anyone read the article? It clearly says the Giants wouldn’t be the team. All these ‘Broxton to the Giants’ comments should read first.
If you read earlier, that part was not included initially. SO relax
Had you been here when it was posted it only had the first paragraph. 5 minutes later came the second paragraph etc, etc. there were 50 comments here before the “not SF” was posted in the artical
What would they trade with the White Sox for ??
Pitching
Please be Braun please be Braun please be Braun…..
Braun to Red Sox with Brewers kicking down dough or under team control young team player
You people do realize that Braun has full no trade rights.
Folty for Santana
No
Should have a post like this for all the other teams.
“The Orioles are making a trade”
Updates it in mid-July.
Yellich to brewers?
Baltimore can use an outfielder…
Texas maybe??
I would think starting pitching is the target
We shall see
Texas makes sense. Would be ironic if Brinson came back to the Rangers.
But from the Brewers standpoint, I’m not sure I get this. They have a plethora of OF’s. So they are trading one or more of them to open up the door for another OF. But if they do that wouldn’t it take them out of the running for one of the starting pitchers they have been linked to? I would think that the Brewers would be much better off with signing a pitcher. But then again, I’m not a GM…
i think there are a lot of moving parts here for the brewers… they are keeping options open and keeping a dialog with a number of players to placate different scenarios.. I think they’re content with moving MLB ready players if the return is substantial seeing as the market has been so slow… for instance, lets say santana and thames get traded… shaw has the ability to move to first opening the door for a possible Moustakas or Nunez signing… broxton, brinson or phillips could get moved paving the way for a possible Cain signing etc… and I don’t see that as far fetched given that the brewers have had contact with all of those free agents
Neither Baltimore or Texas have spare pitching to trade! Both teams are looking for pitching themselves!
cleveland
I’ve refreshed 12 times now and no update…
Indians badly need a right handed hitting OF
Domingo Santana would be a great pick up
Kipnis/Salazar for Santana and a prospect?
That would clear the way for Ramirez at 2B and give them that power bat in the OF. Plus with Clevenger they don’t have a need for Salazar
Thinking Salazar and small prospect for Santana
interesting framework probably need a few pieces from one side or the other to balance but I like it
Too much from the Indians !
Bucks in 6
I bet I’ve hit the refresh button 100 times in the past hour.
6 immigrants from Honduras for one from Norway……
I’m hoping for a deal with the London Silly Nannies.
Funny how they have no idea who the trade is with or who it’s for but they know it’s not the Giants.
Sooo MLB.com won’t let me pull up Hamels player page. It’s letting me for everyone else though. Could be operator error I guess.
You’ve looked at every player in the MLB?
Nah just on the Rangers lol
haha gotcha. interesring though
Same thing happened to me. Very interesting.
I’m hoping this is a deal with KC for a back of the rotation guy like Hammel or Kennedy.
If it’s definitely not the Giants I wish the article had said why.
this rumor is representative of a very chilly stove
Mlbtr this off-season, a deal is happening!… No wait nevermind, but please keep visiting our website.
I’d guess a White Sox reliever like Soria, Infante or Avilan and a prospect for Broxton.
Brinson and Broxton for Realmuto, and Castro. Throw in the rights of Volquez for late season pick up.
Volquez was released and also that’s extremely light for those 2, maybe those 2 for one of them.
Not even close
Hearing ellsbury and Alberto Abreu coming to Milwaukee
For who
That would explain the delay since they’d have to get approval from Ellsbury first.
That is a rumor on the street. The question is—- is there a 3rd team or is he waiving his NTC? Brewers take the contract and the pitching prospect.
What about the diamondbacks? They have a ton of pitching depth and now that they are on the verge of losing JD Martinez to the red sox santana would be a great fit. Patrick Corbin and brandon drury for domingo santana and another prospect
AZ is definitely trying to find a power bat to replace JD. I know Corbin has been mentioned cause he’s a free agent to be but I expect them to hold onto him at least until the break. IMO, pitching brings back better returns near trade deadline while position players do better offseason.
Dbacks would likely have more interest in Broxon. With AJ Pollock hitting free-agency next year they have more need for a CF than another corner OF. The lower prospect pricetag on Broxton also more closely matches their needs.
MLBTR next major article headline: sources say multiple MLB teams are engage directly in trade talks. Unknown teams/players
…Robin Yount for Bobby Bonilla…..
Stearns would never pick up the rest of Bonilla’s contract, LOL.
The suspense! This has been up for two hours and no new updates. I’ll just keep refreshing lol
I know right, been waiting forever!
Really would hate to give up Abreu (NYY)…
A’s maybe in on one of the OFers? Lowrie for…? Broxton + or maybe a pitcher like Hahn for Broxton?
If it’s Lowrie for Broxton straight up I wouldn’t be mad. I would have to wonder if Joyce is maybe next and the A’s are opening a spot for a Fowler/Pinder platoon in left. I’m not sure how much value Hahn has left. He’s out of options and hasn’t done will since before he got hurt in 2015.
I would be concerned we’d be promoting Barreto, our defacto second baseman of the future, too early. I know he takes a while to adjust to pitching at each level he’s gotten promoted to, but I’d rather he make those adjustments and destroy Triple A before we consider calling him back up.
Center field really isn’t a hole we need to fill at the moment. They still feel Fowler will be ready to go by Spring Training, and even if he isn’t ready Powell can stand in until he is.
I’d like the Os to get Broxton. The strikeouts are a bummer in their lineup especially but the power/speed combo is nice. The Orioles have sorely lacked a lead-off hitter since Brian Roberts (Markakis was decent but had zero speed). Lots of solo homeruns from Machado, Davis, and Trumbo that need runners aboard. Alternatively, the O’s are looking at Dyson instead which to me is wasted money and roster spot. O’s chasing Cain is best option but that is as likely as them going after Arrieta.
Broxton isn’t a lead off hitter either. Dyson isn’t but either but he won’t cost anything but a couple million bucks. We don’t need any more strikeouts in our lineup.
True. The Os seemed to always have a void near the top. The offense completely changed and dominated when Beckham came over last season and was hitting everything. I just don’t think he can do that for a whole season.
The blue jays already have 7 outfielders. May as well have 2 more to fill out the rest of the lineup card as some sort of prank they can laugh about at GM conferences. They need a 5th starter.. what’s Broxtons arm like?
Braun to the Dodgers for any pitcher they don’t want, plus a crap load of bats!
Corey Ray’s value is in the dumps right now. Finding a way to bring him home shouldn’t be too difficult, Rick.
As long as Ned is trying to tank in KC, I would love to get Duffy and Merrifield for Broxton and Phillips
Must not have been that close. Thanks, Crasnick.
Braun is going to the Red Sox with Bradley going to another team in a three way deal. Takes Boston out of the Martinez deal.
Braun to Boston wouldn’t be a bad idea actually. They need power but would rather DH him. Much cheaper alternative than Martinez would really screw Boras which would be funny. Then try to re-sign Nunez.
why are the white sox in this? makes no sense.
Says someone with ZERO idea about what’s actually being discussed…
And if their talks with the Brewers involve any of those listed OF’ers, any of Santana, Brinson, or Phillips would make a ton of sense (depending on the cost, obviously).
im looking at all angles. dont get so sensitive.
You clearly aren’t looking at anywhere near all the angles if you think it makes no sense…
CF Corey Ray just might be involved in any potential Brewer/White Sox trade which I discussed in more detail in my first comment just below.
The White Sox have basically no pitching the Brewers would want, at the majors or in the minors. That’s why it makes no sense.
If there is really something going down it must be complicated with either multi players or more than 2 teams. And if Braun is involved they need his blessing to include him or waiting on players be notified of it.
Ellsbury and Abreu is the rumor. Return has not been reported yet. May be waiting for Ellsbury approval or it may be B.S.
If the potential deal does involve the White Sox it might involve another outfielder not mentioned in this article, the Brewers #2 prospect and MLB.com’s current #59 talent in CF Corey Ray.
The White Sox have long been high on Ray who is a native of Chicago’s South Side and was also a graduate of the organizations Amateur City Elite travel program before becoming a standout NCAA player for Louisville. The Brewers drafted Ray with their #1 pick in 2016 before the White Sox had an opportunity to select him. Ray, along with top prospect Lewis Brinson, was mentioned as a possible return in a rumored deal involving Jose Quintana last year before he was ultimately dealt to the division rival Cubs for their two top prospects, OF Eloy Jimenez and P Dylan Cease.
who are we moving to the brewers in this scenario?
good detailed comment. I don’t mean to steal your thunder, but I’ve been saying Ray too. he’s a few years out IMO and we have plenty of young OFers.. some of which are ML ready.
i’d rather it be ray than phillips at this point.
Ray or Phillips for who though? The brewers don’t need an OFer back. Also, the white Sox don’t have the pitching or 2B talent to warrant the Brewers moving one of those two.
The Brewers would desire some of the deep pitching depth the White Sox possess. Chicago wouldn’t part with its most elite power arms like Michael Kopech or Alec Hansen but might be willing to deal from the likes of Carson Fulmer and Reynaldo Lopez who also happen to be MLB ready.
If Milwaukee needs a second baseman then switch-hitting Yolmer Sanchez would be a good target. Sanchez has always possessed a plus glove at 2B and put up a career year with the bat in 2017. Of course, he also got bumped from the keystone position by top prospect Yoan Moncada last summer and would now be in line for a key utility role or perhaps share the starting 3B job with Matt Davidson if he remained with the White Sox in 2018.
There is zero chance you get Ray for the likes of Fulmer or Lopez.
The Brewers aren’t looking for projects like Fulmer or Lopez though. If they trade from the likes of Ray, Brinson or Santana it will be for a #1 -#3 starter not a project. The guys you mentioned could very well turn out to be solid but the brewers are competitive now. I don’t see a benefit to them to wait 2-3 years on those guys to possibly develop into a 3.
Hate to break it to you, but Corey Ray is not getting you even close to a legitimate #1-#3 starter right now. He has shown absolutely nothing since being drafted. Obviously he still has the potential that made him a top 5 pick, but his value has dropped significantly since being drafted.
Seriously? Lopez and Fulmer were both higher rated prospects than Ray has ever been. And after last season Ray just continues to drop. I would take either of those 2 for Ray in a heartbeat.
On the other hand, Fulmer or Lopez plus 2B Yolmer Sanchez makes a lot of sense although many might believe that to be an overpay on the part of the White Sox for Ray who has struggled in his first two seasons at the lower minor league levels. At least Fulmer and Lopez have some MLB experience while Sanchez put up a 3.5 WAR season as the White Sox second baseman in 2017.
Lewis Brinson was never really discussed. From what I understand the phone conversation for brinson went like this:
David Stearns: we like Quintana.
Whitesox: We want Brinson.
David Stearns: *click*
There’s no way brinson or phillips are in the mix unless it’s for Moncada, a top arm, and another prospect. I don’t see that move being made but either team.
Chances are it’s a trade involving Santana or broxton, but I always said Ray is probably more than likely available… especially since he regressed last year
I totally get that David Sterns did not want to mortgage the future for Jose Quintana last summer. Rick Hahn instead had to “settle” for the Cubs top two prospects, slugging OF Eloy Jimenez and hard throwing RHP Dylan Cease. lol
If Braun is willing to accept a trade to the Red Sox financially it would be a good deal for the Sox. DH with power that can play LF and move Bene to CF.
It would seem a 3-way trade partner would be San Fran for JBJ.
Jackie Bradley is remaining as a BoSox. Ryan Braun isn’t an upgrade. The MIL trade is likely with MIA. I guess it would be a young OF for IF Starlin Castro.
If the Brewers are looking for an upgrade at 2B they might be better off with White Sox Yolmer Sanchez over Starlin Castro.
Sanchez is 2+ years younger and has 4 more years of arbitration eligible control before becoming a potential FA in 2022. Sanchez also provides a plus MLB glove at 2B which contributed to his 3,5 WAR season compared to Castro’s 2.0 as the Yankee second baseman. Castro has 2 years of control at a much steeper $22.714MM along with a $16MM team option ($1MM buyout) for 2020.
Clearly Sanchez is available after being supplanted at 2B by top prospect Yoan Moncada last summer. The question would be: Do the Brewers value defense at 2B and believe Sanchez’ 2017 offense will be his norm and not a mirage or are they more comfortable with Castro’s bat and weak glove there for the next 2+ seasons.
If BOS acquires a middle of the order run producer who can play OF & DH, that will all but destroy JD Martinez’ market and trigger panic in the offices of Scott Boras. JDM’s price and contract length will erode to a level making a return to AZ much more likely.
I’m starting to think there is no trade in the works. Ever since it was reported like 15 hours ago there hasn’t even been an update.
yeah I know I don’t know why they even posted something until it was a done and confirmed trade or even a signing please don’t sign Darvish waste of money
On brewcrewball people were saying the hold up is due to a contract issue and that the trade likely won’t go through until tomorrow or Wednesday if it does at all.
If the delay in any potential deal is contract related it stands to reason that it involves Ryan Braun from the Brewers in a deal to a club like the Red Sox or perhaps Starlin Castro’s remaining obligations if he were to come to the Brewers from the Marlins as a means for Milwaukee to upgrade 2B.
Yeah I don’t know why that anything was even mentioned of a possible trade until the trade was confirmed and please don’t sign darvish waste of money we don’t need a 20 miiion dollar year pitcher I’m sure darvish won’t even sign with brewers its just a ploy to get more money from other teams
Let’s go out and trade for castro and the catcher from the marlins and maybe straily
J hey nooooo
Tying into the Castro deal, the Yankees trade Elsbury to the Brewers and agree to pay half the salary. All good for Yankee haters to seeth.