While the Yankees were assuredly disheartened upon being informed that they were not a finalist for Shohei Ohtani, that information looks to have largely paved the way for New York’s blockbuster acquisition of Giancarlo Stanton. Yankees GM Brian Cashman joined Jim Bowden and Craig Mish on MLB Network Radio on SiriusXM today and discussed his club’s pursuit of both Ohtani and Stanton (Twitter link with audio). As Cashman explains, had the Yankees been among the finalists for Ohtani, or even signed him, they’d have been committed to keeping the DH spot largely open in order to accommodate Ohtani’s desire to both pitch and hit. However, being informed that they were out of the Ohtani sweepstakes fairly early in the process allowed Cashman and his staff to pivot and re-engage the Marlins on Stanton. New York and Miami had talked in the previous month, per Cashman, and negotiations quickly became serious once the Yankees knew they could use the DH spot that had been earmarked for Ohtani to rotate Stanton, Aaron Judge and others.
Elsewhere in the AL East…
- In that same appearance, Cashman also spoke about the possibility of Stanton and Judge seeing time in left field as well as trade interest in prospects Miguel Andujar and Clint Frazier (both links via MLB.com’s Bryan Hoch). Hoch notes that the DH spot is a more likely avenue to get both Judge and Stanton into the same lineup, though Cashman said that both players have expressed a willingness and level of excitement regarding the possibility of playing the opposite outfield corner. Brett Gardner and Aaron Hicks figure to line up regularly in left field and center field for the Yankees, but it seems that there’ll be days when one of the two slugging career-long right fielders could see time in left. As for Andujar and Frazier, Cashman spoke highly of both and acknowledged the possibility of a trade, though he also said he could hang onto both young players. Cashman calls Frazier a “very valuable, attractive asset” not only to the Yankees but to other teams and later adds that Andujar is “…a very exciting talent — one that’s being insisted upon, it seems like, in every conversation I’m having with anything that’s high-end out there.”
- Red Sox ownership has given president of baseball ops Dave Dombrowski more autonomy than his predecessors received, writes Evan Drellich of NBC Sports Boston, and it’s been Dombrowski who has primarily driven the Red Sox’ pursuit of J.D. Martinez. Drellich wonders if now is the time for Dombrowski and owner John Henry to begin showing this type of restraint — Boston has reportedly offered Martinez five years but drawn a line there — as New York and Los Angeles both loom as potential big spenders again next offseason. Drellich also takes a look at Dombrowski’s history of splashy moves (some of his own volition and some driven by late Tigers owner Mike Ilitch during Dombrowski’s days in Detroit) as well as his reputation as an executive that is, at times, willing to overpay on the free-agent and trade markets.
- Right-hander Mychal Givens drew persistent trade interest at the Winter Meetings, writes Roch Kubatko of MASNsports.com, but he’s among the players that the Orioles consider to be untouchable. With Zach Britton on the shelf due to a ruptured Achilles tendon, many are expecting Brad Brach to step into the closer’s role, though Kubatko writes that manager Buck Showalter isn’t anointing anyone. Rather, Showalter believes that in Givens, Brach, Darren O’Day and lefty Richard Bleier, he has a number of weapons that can help lock down games, depending on the situation. “In a perfect world you’d be able to spread it around, but I’m not there yet,” says Showalter. “…But I’m confident that we have more than one person capable of doing a good job with it. To think you’re going to have somebody to do it at the level that [Britton] did it, that’s historic. There’s not a guy out there like that.”
- Blue Jays GM Ross Atkins said in an appearance on Sportsnet 590 that his club does indeed have interest in Marlins star Christian Yelich, though he cautioned that virtually every team in baseball is in that boat as well (link via Sportsnet’s Michael Hoad). Atkins again voiced a desire to strengthen both his outfield and his pitching staff, though he acknowledged that the outfield is a greater need. The Jays, Atkins added, are heartened by the fact that they have both payroll capacity (a reported $20MM or so in 2018 space) and a strong farm system that allows them to trade. Certainly, the Marlins would be keen on top-tier talents like Vladimir Guerrero Jr. and Bo Bichette if they were to seriously entertain parting with Yelich. Sportsnet’s Ben Nicholson-Smith tweets that Atkins addressed the theoretical notion of moving those elite prospects, saying they’d only be available were the Jays to acquire a “young, controllable player that we feel could be as talented or more as those two players.” While Yelich arguably fits that description, Nicholson-Smith notes that it still seems likely that the Jays will hang onto both players.
velorum
I swear if the Yankees trade Andújar they’ll regret it
TheHammer16
Agreed. And if he turns out not to be the guy that he’s expected to be there’s a pretty good 3b class of FA next year to bid at
MurderersRow27
The only way they end up regretting trading Andujar (if they do in fact trade him), is if they don’t sign Machado next offseason.
jonscriff
Yankees would be dumb to get rid of Frazier.. Hicks gets injured every year , Gardner isn’t getting any younger and who knows if Giancarlo could stay healthy. The roster is good enough now.
a1544
They need Frazier to be the guy to step in once one of those OFs goes down. You need 5+ outfielders just like you need 8-10 starters
acarneglia
Ellsbury
KnicksCavsFan
(crickets…) well done.
Hrmike
Lol
thecoffinnail
Cave and McKinney are ready and both had solid years at AAA last year.. I agree with you by not trading him though.. The Yankees are loaded in the minors with well regarded pitching prospects So, there is no real need to supplement there. They have a very good rotation now with Adams (innings will be limited this year because he is still new to starting) as depth and Warren always on hand to spot start.. This team is well constructed with the exception of a veteran infielder.. I can see trading him if they are able to unload half of Ellsbury’s contract combined with Frazier for a decent 2nd-3rd baseman on a reasonable salary though.. Only for the reason, that with Ellsbury on hand, he is only going to languish in AAA and he has earned a shot at playing everyday at the MLB level..
Hello123
No Gardner too
Perksy
Well they are stuck with Stanton, so whether healthy or not he clogs up a spot in the lineup and in the field. I’m probably on of the few Yankee fans that was and is opposed to the deal. Another long term contract they will regret and have trouble getting out of. It’s also the opposite direction the team was going in and building towards the last couple of years. I would rather have seen Frazier play everyday in the OF.
KnicksCavsFan
I wasn’t a big fan of the trade as I didn’t see the OF as a place of need but from a value standpoint it would’ve been hard to pass up on a potential 6+ WAR guy at his age for what we gave up. Guzman could absolutely be outstanding one day but he has more to prove.
I too am a prospect lover but honestly, a lot of the same stuff I hear about Frazier I also remember hearing a lot of hype about a lot of corner outfielders that had the power but not enough other stuff. If the Yanks can’t move Ellsbury then having Frazier start the year at age 23 at AAA isn’t a horrible thing. He was good at AAA last year and we can rave about his bat speed and power but he didn’t exactly dominate. 256/.344/.473 w/ 12 hrs is good at his then 22 age but there’s room for improvement. Don’t get me wrong, he has tremendous talent, but he has to show me more to displace the 2017 versions of Gardner and Hicks or to deter the Yanks from obtaining a player like Stanton. The lack of a “rookie” status might hurt him among fantasy prospect guys but mlb teams will fire him the same way they did 1 year ago. If he smashes at AAA then maybe he’ll force himself to be called up or increase his trade value.
mikeyank55
I agree with you fan…
Frazier has a lot of talent and everything to prove, starting with dominating AAA.
What was most impressive about judge’s career that at each level he encountered difficulties in the first season, and that drove him to get better so that he could dominate.
Quick wrists only mean something with a player who has a keen sense of the strike zone and a plan during each at bat.
We all want this kid to do well as he represents the proceeds of Andrew Miller’s Trade. The proof will come out as he matures and if he learns to develop his talent he will be in the outfield at Yankee stadium for a long time.
beardedface_killah
So the Yankees are gonna sign every FA ever? Geez
driftcat28 2
In an article about the Stanton trade and prospects, where did you get that they were going sign every free agent?
Hiro
Who did the Yankees sign beside Jace Peterson to a MiLB deal?
Hiro
Who did the Yankees sign this offseason except Jace Peterson to a MiLB deal?
Hiro
I will answer my own question:
CC Sabathia (MLB)
Eric Kratz (MiLB)
mehs
Missing a couple more. 🙂
Renso Mejia (MiLB)
Chace Numata (MiLB)
Hiro
Thanks.
Uruguay77
Jealous ?
RenoChris
Yes
JimEd14
It’s the old Yankee way. Take it from this Sox fan, it makes it much sweeter when they don’t win the world series.
slider32
Not really, the Yanks could have 6 starter making near minimum, and none of their starters making over 10 million
warren r.
“While the Yankees were assuredly disheartened upon being informed that they were not a finalist for Shohei Ohtani, that information looks to have largely paved the way for New York’s blockbuster acquisition of Giancarlo Stanton. ”
YES, MLB AND RELATED MEDIA, WE ALL KNOW THAT ALREADY. Don’t need to keep mentioning it every other f’ing day like we’re goldfish that might’ve forgotten.
Good f’ing grief.
Padres Armchair GM
Hey, you hear Ohtani signed with the angels man? Just want to make sure you know.
delete
Anthony Rizzo
Padres Armchair GM
Fernando Tatis Jr.
warren r.
No, I haven’t heard that since the last MLB notification on my phone about it six hours ago!
sidewinder11
I know it’s wishful thinking but I’d like to see the DBacks get Andujar and others in exchange for Corbin and Drury.
bigcubsfan
Givens is untouchable? So none of his teammates can give him high honors of the high five? What means that? That is pickle-nose statement.
soggycereal
it means he’s on the orioles list of people they aren’t willing to offer in trades
delete
The Orioles are absolutely delusional. Is the janitor untouchable too?
Sheldon Bowen
Orioles seem unsure of what they want to do short term and long term. They need to get aggressive on the rebuild or in competing.
K3vin
They were playing like crap, so yes the janitor may be untouchable.
Hello123
At least can clean up the 9th inning if they have one
realgone2
Is Bo related to Dante?
chitown311
Um yeah that’s his son ♂️
realgone2
Weird that it isn’t mentioned on baseball reference.
lowtalker1
Dante jr was a farm hand with the Yankees with another team now but he struggled in A ball
Cat Mando
BBR doesn’t do an extensive overview of MiLB players. We all know that Vlad Jr. has MLB heritage because of more extensive press and his name but there is no mention on BBR as he hasn’t made it to the show.
SuperSinker
You could always use google.
Aoe3
Really hoping Toronto trades Bichette and Vlad jr. for Yelich. Will the marlins demand both or at least one? It is yelich tho, maybe we should trade them both.
Padres Armchair GM
Jays would be stupid to make that trade as it would include one if not both plus others for yelich straight up.
Any team looking to acquire yelich should ask the marlins to include chen as part of the deal with the marlins receiving 70%-80% salary relief.
It would lower the prospect haul, but the marlins would still get a good haul while clearing majority of that chen contract.
jbigz12
The Marlins have taken enough watered down returns for salary relief. They should try and acquire the best talent they can find at this point. Dump Castro if you want to save some money. Don’t take less for Yelich or Realmuto.
Chris Sale Amateur Tailor
execpt that the Marlins are reported as having no interest in watering down yelish with a contract
shane
They won’t trade either.
jdgoat
Bichette would probably be the headliner, Guerrero should only be moved if it’s like another Sale trade for a bonafide superstar
Yankeepatriot
Bichette jr the headliner ? He isn’t even that good to be honest.
gomer33
You have the wrong son, Bo Bichette is the one the Jays have. As a Jays fan I want them both to stay put. For the next two years the best we can hope for is the Wild Card in my opinion. Would rather the team field as competitive team as possible without mortgaging the future. The way the FO seems to be looking at it also. It’s hard to sell a rebuild to fans when they led the AL in attendance.
jdgoat
Bo Bichette is one of the leagues top prospects
R.D.
Bichette is 19 and his career OPS as a pro is 1.018.
Yankeepatriot
I thought he only had one son (the one we had). My mistake then !. As for the rebuild the jays have a big choice to make in that regard
SuperSinker
Keep doing your homework kids.
privy
…..and Dante Jr, isn’t.
Yankeepatriot
Plus Bichette is only a year younger than yelich
UncleGene
Agreed. Bichette has floundered at A ball. He’s 25, I think. His upside, if it hasn’t evaporated, looks marginal at best.
shane
Bo Bichette is 19.
hoags2727
Gotta love how people have zero sense of baseball prospects. Yankeepatriot don’t you have something better to do?
ericl
Bichette has floundered at A ball? He hit .384 at Lansing and then .323 at Dunedin. That’s not floundering. Check your facts before you make a comment please. Bichette will be 20 in March. His brother his 25
Cat Mando
Yankeepatriot….You could try looking at the right Bichette or adding /s if sarcasm is intended.
Yankeepatriot
Oh I’m sorry if I don’t have enough time on my hands to study every single baseball prospect. I didn’t know Dante had another son. If I didn’t have anything better to do I would absolutely look up every single prospect in mlb but like I said I don’t have the time
Yankeepatriot
I seriously didn’t know Dante had two sons. I’ve only heard of his older one
SuperSinker
He’s an industry top-30 prospect. It’s January and you’re on MLBTR, so don’t act like you don’t have the time to go look anywhere on any prospect publication.
mlb1225
If you have looked at any top-100 prospect list, you would have seen Bo Bichette.
Yankeepatriot
I haven’t looked at prospect articles much at all…..
Cat Mando
What sounds weird, to me anyway and possibly others, is that you said “Bichette Jr.” knowing the name Dante Bichette Jr. plus you have said you don’t keep up on prospects etc but you just happen to know that Dante Jr. is one year younger than Yelich when no age even Yelich’s is even mentioned. Sounds like you did comparisons but used the wrong Bichette brother.
davbee
Yet you have time to come on here and post about things you obviously know nothing about. That makes sense.
JaysSK
The article clearly states BO BICHETTE with a link! That you can click!
martyvan90
Embarrassing
Kenleyfornia74
Vlad no way lol
lowtalker1
Why would that even be a thing? If they traded its only be for one and they will want something else
dynamite drop in monty
Whitlock nails it again!
driftcat28 2
Hoping Cash hangs onto both Frazier and Andujar. Hicks is injury prone and it’s never a bad idea to have outfield depth. And worth he opening at 3b, nows the perfect time to see what they have with Andujar. His game in Chicago this season left me wanting more
BennyTheBoss
Bichette, Vladimir Guerrero Jr, and a throw in for Yelich?
shane
Be serious. If that was the offer the Marlins would have pulled the trigger long ago.
Chris Sale Amateur Tailor
no way they get both. I doubt a deal will happen but if it did it would be built around bichette along with other pieces
Dean Cull
Benny the boss- really? Even if Yelich was to take them over the top it’s not a good trade. Odds are Guerrero’s bat at least is for real. Yelich is certainly a very good player but I’m split even including Bichette in a deal for Yelich. The Jays are more than one player away from being a legit contender. Trading Guerrero and Bichette their top 2 prospects makes no sense!
ripcookies
Hold onto andujar and Frazier unless they are going somewhere with elsbury
ericl
The Blue Jays need a pitcher just as bad as they need an outfielder. They have 4 starters. Biagini was awful as a starter last season & right now he’s their 5th starter. That isn’t good enough.
hacksawjim
it’s not that biagini is the fifth starter… who cares if he is the fifth starter… fifths are fill in guys.
the issue is when any of our 1-4 starters gets injured, and he is a 2 – 4 starter… then it’s an issue.
imo
SuperSinker
‘5th starters’ are just as vital to a team’s success as the ‘1st starter’. They have equal opportunity to succeed/fail. It does not matter how you order a pitching staff, it matters that they all do reasonably well.
Hello123
No you have 1 starter pitcher
jdgoat
Borucki and Pannone will be close to passing him on the depth chart
Hello123
They Marcus tho he can making all 162 starts
tiger9
2 blue jay prospects named Bichette and Guerrero does not make a strong farm system. They are middle of the road and at last ranking are neck and neck with the Tigers. The tigers system is improved…but I don’t think anyone would label it as strong.
hacksawjim
i suspect that “ranking” is changing…. love ’em or hate ’em… shapiro/atkins have been drafting well.
hacksawjim
i can’t believe i’ve become an apologist for those two.
jeez.
Hello123
They have 2 prospects everyone else is just a filler
SuperSinker
Your evaluation of the Blue Jays system does not jive with industry consensus. That’s okay, but you’re going to have to provide evidence for your claim.
lucienbel
Not sure why you needed to come in, say a farm system that is regarded as solid isn’t good, and then talk about a farm system not even mentioned in the article.
Hello123
It’s solid for being the 18 in baseball
NeilM
I trade Bo Bichette for Yelich in a heartbeat.
Yes he is a great prospect – but there have been so many that have come along and just fizzled
Anybody remember Marty Janzen? Part of the David Cone trade? Or how about the Drabek kid in the Halladay trade?
Bo Bichette for Yelich in a heartbeat – no doubt – Yelich is young, controllable and proven.
thecoffinnail
Didn’t Drabek’s arm fall off the season after that trade? More recent (and Jays related) would be that Norris kid they sent to the Tigers for Price.. All of the articles that were written about him traveling to spring training and living in a van got old quickly.. I agree with you about prospects though.. For every Mike Trout there are 5 Mike Olt’s or Jesus Montero’s..
thecoffinnail
By mentioning Trout I mean to say a minor league player that hit well in the major’s and lived up to the hype.. I probably should have put Corey Seager or Kris Bryant instead of the best player of this century but he was the first one to come to my mind..
SuperSinker
You’re saying things that everyone understands. Prospects are volatile, but the game is getting younger and players are more ready to compete now at 20 than ever before.
southi
I haven’t done an in depth check but I don’t think that there are more 20 year olds breaking into the majors than there were years ago. Seems like I remember quite a few 19/20 year olds as rookies back in the 60’s/70’s/80’s. Robin Yount, Alan Trammell, Lou Whitaker, George Brett, Ken Griffey, Jr, Nolan Ryan, Doc Gooden are some just off the top of my head. Doesn’t seem like a new phenomenon.
NeilM
Everyone? Not too sure of that after reading most of the comments on this column.
Giving a unproven prospect for a still young proven talent seems a no brainier – would still work to make the Jays younger and more athletic. Yelich is still a young player.
Cashford64
I agree. People are putting way too much value in prospects. Both Yelich and Realmuto are not only young and controllable, but they are PROVEN to be effective at the MLB level. I’m not saying give up everything you’ve got, but ya know… a bird in the hand…
SuperSinker
Every player has risk. Big leaguers are not immune to injury/underperformance/loss in core skills. It is not exclusive to MILB players.
SG
I’d say John Henry has finally come to his senses.
Let’s see …. Price, Sandoval, Castillo, Crawford. What well spent big contracts get you .. LOL.
I honestly can’t believe he offered JDM 5 years and over $100M.
If that’s what really happened and Scott Boras isn’t just inventing this stuff.
Fake news?
I’d look for Nunez and Lynn to be signed.
And a LRP.
DMWBAGFv2
Stupid DH
Hello123
You’re stupid
IC3ofme
Vlad is a marketing dream for the jays he will never be traded
And if he is half the player his dad was he will be a jay for long time to come
Jays farm system is only going to get better when the trade Donaldson this summer so don’t get any hopes up for Yelich folks
rememberthecoop
“In a perfect world you’d be able to spread it around.” Not in my perfect world. In my perfect world you have one guy that’s a shutdown, lockdown closer.
antsmith7
Looks like we’re gonna go into Spring Training with a bunch of free agents not on a team…
mgrap84
I’m an Orioles fan so this is kinda hard you say but, everyone needs to stop crying about the Yankees and how they get every player out there. It’s not their fault that either A) the player wants to play there or B) the player is only in it for the money and the Yankees were the ones to dish it out. Can’t hate a team for knowing what it takes to win. It’s either win or go home.
SuperSinker
This sounds like a Kevin Durant post. Also, Ohtani said no to the Yankees and it’s the headline part of the article sooooo….
SG
Dombrowski doesn’t impress me as being a stupid man.
I sincerely hope he doesn’t prove me wrong this winter.
I also sincerely hope John Henry has put a cap on spending.
I mean my God we’re already at the luxury tax threshold.
I know the Red Sox guaranteed payroll comes down after 2018.
I know they need to lock up some long term SP (Sale, Pomeranz) and RP (Kimbrel).
They need at least 1 SP maybe 2. I’d get Lynn.
I wouldn’t count on Wright or ERod. Price is a coin flip..
They also need 1 or 2 LRP.
If they’re worried about paying Kimbrel big bucks next year then sign Addison Reed as your closer now and eat his pay for 2018. That bullpen got them to the playoffs in 2017.
They have a great core of young talented offensive starters that won’t cost much for a few years or more. And that young talent will improve. Betts, Bogarts, Bradley and Devers will likely get even better. Even an old pro like Hanley can do better.
They can really improve with Eduardo Nunez.
The Red Sox are a really good team and should be a division winner or at least a wild card team..
I see no need to get JDM but JDM is good player but not at 5 years $100M+. $200M + is completely crazy for JDM.
Sorry JDM fans.
Starting pitching is the Red Sox priority.
Don’t see anyone coming up in the minors, so it’s either they trade for it or they buy it.
LASTSON86
Yeah Yankees got away with collusion…we get it.
Voidhelix
You don’t subtract talent like Bichette or Vladdy, unless you’re getting a sub-30 elite level star. Yelich is a damn fine player, and he’s only 26, but he’s no superstar. Bo and Vladdy will be in our lineup by 2019. ADD Yelich and you have a contending core. Bo Bichette has all the tools to be a bettter hitter than Yelich.
sandman12
Jeff Tpdd,
In today’s chat, you expressed the view that Starlin Castro’s contract had no surplus value. With a WAR of 2 last season and a projection of the same over these next two seasons, his contract is well below WAR value. Why do you disregard the formula in his individual case? He had the 8th highest OPS of all MLB 2B last season.