10:56am: Jon Heyman of FanRag reports via Twitter that the Yankees will receive about $35MM from the Marlins in the deal, and confirms that they’ll send back Castro and prospects. Heyman also adds in a separate tweet that Stanton is on his way to NYC for a physical, making it clear that he is waiving his no-trade clause.
10:35am: A source close to Morosi confirms Rosenthal’s report that Stanton is expected to approve the trade.
9:56am: A last-ditch effort to acquire Stanton today by the Dodgers is unlikely, Jon Morosi of FOX Sports hears (Twitter link).
9:33am: The main prospects that would be headed back in the deal are down in the lower levels of the Yankees’ minor league system, Sherman adds.
9:20am: Sherman hears that Castro is the only veteran going back to the Marlins in the deal (Twitter link). The other players going to Miami are Yankees prospects, though not their “best.”
8:49am: The expectation is that Stanton will approve the trade, according to Ken Rosenthal of The Athletic. Rosenthal also mentions that the deal is pending physicals, which seem to be the only real item standing in the way of the trade being considered complete.
7:14am: The Yankees and Marlins have a deal for Giancarlo Stanton, according to Jon Heyman of FanRag Sports. The deal is still subject to Stanton’s approval, as the slugger has full no-trade rights. Several hours prior, Joel Sherman of the New York Post called the deal “virtually done,” noting the Marlins will receive second baseman Starlin Castro “plus good but not top prospects” if completed. Before that, Henry Schulman of the San Francisco Chronicle had reported the deal as “close if not done.”
Yesterday, Stanton rejected trades to the Cardinals and Giants. Previous reporting has indicated that the Yankees are on the short list of teams to which Stanton would be willing to be traded, so his approval in this case may not be a major hurdle. Stanton will also need to pass a physical by the Yankees, as Sherman has noted.
The pairing of Giancarlo Stanton with Aaron Judge will be one for the ages. Stanton just took home the NL MVP award with an epic 59 home run season, a level that had not been reached since Barry Bonds in 2001. Meanwhile, Judge won the American League Rookie of the Year award and finished second in the AL MVP voting with 52 bombs, a rookie record. Throw in catcher Gary Sanchez, and Yankees GM Brian Cashman has assembled a Murderers’ Row of right-handed sluggers.
Earlier this year, the Marlins were purchased by a group led by former Yankees great Derek Jeter, as well as investor Bruce Sherman. The pair chose to keep alive the Marlins’ fire sale tradition, intent on moving Stanton because of the massive contract he signed under previous owner Jeffrey Loria three years ago. The Marlins’ leverage was clearly reduced after Stanton rejected trades to the Cardinals and Giants. Stanton, 28, is still owed $295MM over the next ten years. After the 2020 season, he has the right to opt out of the remaining seven years and $218MM, which will be a source of significant downside risk for the Yankees. Yankees GM Brian Cashman has expressed his commitment to getting the team’s payroll under the $197MM luxury tax threshold, which isn’t easy to do while adding Stanton’s contract. Sending Castro to the Marlins removes a two-year, $22MM commitment. However, as Sherman points out, the average annual value of Castro’s contract is what counts towards the tax; that figure is $8.6MM.
It’s certainly too early to say this for certain, but the impact of this trade could even reach next year’s free agent market, as Mark Zuckerman notes on Twitter. The Yankees have long been considered one of the best potential suitors for former NL MVP Bryce Harper, but may not have room for him in their outfield (or potentially their 2019 payroll) any longer. It would be hard to imagine them using one of Judge, Stanton or Harper exclusively as a designated hitter, and none of them are likely candidates to play anywhere on the field besides the outfield corners.
The deal will also come with significant risk for the Yankees. As Eno Sarris of Fangraphs pointed out back in November, it’s hard to know how the reigning NL MVP will age. Stanton also missed large portions of the 2015 and 2016 seasons with a broken hand and a groin strain, respectively. Add that injury history into the mix, and there’s a number of scenarios that end with Stanton’s contract becoming a significant albatross for the Yankees during the final years of the deal. This doesn’t necessarily detract from the fact that New York is in a much better position over the next few years due to the slugging outfielder’s presence, but it’s certainly a notable concern.
Acquiring Stanton should help soften the blow for the Yankees of seeing Shohei Ohtani agree to terms with the Angels. Last week, the Bombers were considered strong suitors for the services of the two-way Japanese phenom, and didn’t seem like serious contenders to land Stanton in a trade. While the Yanks will still want to make a big improvement to their pitching staff, Stanton adds similar value to their roster overall, and perhaps allows them to be more aggressive in shopping outfielder Clint Frazier for cost-controlled starting pitchers (hat tip to Joel Sherman).
The Miami Marlins originally took Stanton with the 76th overall pick in the 2007 draft (second round). After a hot start with the Marlins’ Double-A affiliate three years later, the team decided to promote him straight to the majors, skipping Triple-A entirely. Stanton stuck in the majors and has been a power monster ever since; he’s already socked 267 home runs over the course of his career to go with a .268/.360/.554 career slash line. While he’s dealt with a plethora of injuries that have caused him to miss time in four of his seven full seasons, the Sherman Oaks, California high school product has averaged roughly 4.5 WAR during that time. 2017 was Stanton’s best season yet; not only did he mash a career-high 59 homers, but he cut his strikeout rate down to a career-low 23.6%. Ultimately, he was rewarded with the National League’s MVP honors for his tremendous year.
MB923
“Yeah Jeets”
ABCD
Somebody wake up Stanton to get his approval.
Koodle
Puig is dead now bad day for the dodgers
ABCD
Not funny, but if he keeps licking those bats, we can’t count that out.
srudnick
it would be awsome if the yankess got him
SocraticGadfly
Paging Rob Manfred, paging Rob Manfred …. seriously, if he said he would investigate the final Ohtani deal …. this is like Charlie O. Finley and his fire sales of Reggie Jackson and Vida Blue.
ABCD
No, this is like ARod going to the Yankees. Starlin is the new Soriano.
jbigz12
THats insulting to Soriano.
ABCD
Yeah, I guess it is. But, you never know. Starlin may pop some HRs in his walk year and pick up another big contract.
davidcoonce74
Castro is actually a pretty decent player; he’s still pretty young and was a all-star last year. His defense isn’t great at second and he doesn’t walk much but he’s got good bat-to-ball skills. Castro is also younger than Stanton.
Perksy
Common Dodgers step in! Please. I don’t want Stanton as a Yankee fan.
socalblake
I’d rather have better chances now for Harper.
ctguy
Harper may not even hit the free agent market
Koodle
Dodgers now lost puig RIP
mcdusty31
Dude, not cool
yournemesislol
Is it finally ending?
Slipknot37
Should be. This has been going on for like a month now. Stanton did say Yankees was a team. So if he approves I’m happy. Let’s hope the hot stove picks up now
yournemesislol
True I’m a KC fan I’m just curious to see where Hos Moose and Cain go
costergaard2
Boston should get Hosmer, not sure who grabs the other two.
KC sitting on a ‘15 ring and will reload with solid prospects from those 3 = )
sox34
Boston won’t get Hosmer.
thekid9
Thank you Johnny Superscout
soggycereal
they won’t be traded, they’ll sign a new contract with another team
dave13
Thanks Sherlock they are free agents and can’t be traded
jarv275
All 3 rejected qualifying offers so KC will get compensation draft picks for each. Still a crap shot though.
JKB 2
Hey dumb dumb since none of them are under contract with the Royals anymore it would be kinda tricky for the Royals to be able to trade them now. Don’t you think genius?
cuffs2
KC is not starting over from scratch and is too far along with the new kids to just let all 3 of them go. KC keeps Perez, Gordon, Duffy, Kennedy, Hammel, Soria, Herrera. and Maurer. But The kids include Jorge bonifacio who had 17 homers in a little over half a seasons at bats. Cheslor Cuthbert had 41 extra base hits in 2016 after Moose got hurt.. Raul Mondesi Jr had a big year in the minors , With Ramon Torres right behind. Both kids play short and 3rd base and both should make the club,Both also play 2nd base but that is where Whit Merrifield looks like the man for at least 5 more seasons. Merrifield led the AL in steals at 34, hit 19 homers with 57 extra base hits, Stellar defense 80 runs scored and 78 RBI all after spending most of April in AAA ball. Last year was Whit’s sophomore campaign so he more than likely has better years ahead. Also 2017 Rookie Starter Jake Junis was 9-3 with a 4.30 ERA that should improve. In short the Royals do not need to have a fire sale to compete. .whttps://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2017/12/yankees-marlins-reach-deal-for-stanton-still-awaiting-his-approval.htmlith experience. The Royals do not need to have a fire sale to
AvatarRyan
Yes, probably will be a Yankee but if the the Dodgers and Marlins came to an agreement he would most likely choose LA… Hate to say that as a Angels fan
Perksy
As an Angel fan you did good. I’d prefer Ohtani over Stanton any day. I’m a disappointed Yankee fan.
Cardsfanatik
Well, as a Cardinal’s fan, I’m very glad he’ll be a Yankee, and not a Cardinal. Paying a guy between 20 and 30 million til he’s almost 40 has never been a good idea. And he doesn’t have the most durable track record already, whether people say they were “his fault” or not, he’s not been the poster child for games played.
JKB 2
@cardsfanstik
But you never said that until Stanton rejected the Cardinals. Now here come Cardinal fans saying they never wanted Stanton anyway
JKB 2
“Most likely choose L. A.”
Thanks for stating the obvious.
Koodle
Puig ended too
fmj
Let the off-season finally begin!
ABCD
Outside of Stanton and Ohtani, a lot of things happened this week.
fmj
We all know that. thanks
aidenr
Man, I believe the Yankees are going to regret having made this one in a decade.
canajay12
Hard to say, I would imagine he will be mashing 40+ HRs the next couple years and then will see the contracts being handed out to Harper and Machado and want to re enter the pool via his opt out.
larry48
Stanton will be on dl list a lot as Yankee ,2017 is first year he wasn’t on DL list a lot. Yankees will be stuck with him for years he wont opt out
Adam6710
Yankees may play him a lot at DH to prevent just such an occurrence. Given that they struggled to find a solid DH option last year, a few turns a week there make a lot of sense.
xkeiserx24
Have you seen Gary Sanchez behind the plate? Ginacarlo might dh 20 games this season between Sanchez inability to block balls and the Yankees using the dh to keep players fresh.
troll
dh’ing won’t stop him from getting drilled in the face.
herecomethephillies2018
Getting hit in the face with a pitch isn’t a chronic injury and the Yankees aren’t remotely concerned about it.
mvpetro
Someone’s jealous , how the f do u know he’ll be on the DL a lot ?
Adam6710
Never said Stanton would be a full time DH. Just that he *could* be used there fairly regularly as a way to avoid injuries.
I also expect Sanchez to slim down slightly, and do a lot of work to improve his skills behind the plate. Most of his problems surfaced this past season after significantly bulking up.
ramonskee
Players don’t do a good enough job trying to avoid that darn Disabled List list.
re-tweeted cleats
Stanton will never be hit in the face again with the new Darth Vader batting helmet he will be issued. He’ll come to the plate and tap the opposing catcher on the head until just his head is above ground. Opposing pitchers will then pee themselves and throw gopher balls to him. He will be the first in baseball to hit 100 homers in a season.
Taxmancometh
ramonskee – Tell that to Tony Conigliaro.
re-tweeted cleats
I wish Tony C had the Darth Vader batting helmet. I remember that game too. It was horrible seeing the replays. Who knows what he could have accomplished as a player. My comment was aimed at Troll. No one should wish a player to be hit in the face. I’m a Yankee fan but felt horrible about what happened to Tony C.
Patick L
While he’s dealt with a plethora of injuries that have caused him to miss time in four of his seven full seasons, the Sherman Oaks, California high school product has averaged roughly 4.5 WAR during that time. 2017 was Stanton’s best season yet; not only did he mash a career-high 59 homers, but he cut his strikeout rate down to a career-low 23.6%.
southbeachbully
Sanchez has a 8.6 defensive rating. He has room to improve in his blocking balls but he’s still an elite C.
wellhitball
DL stands for Disabled List. It’s not a Disabled List List. Why don’t you go withdraw some cash from the ATM machine and we’ll make a bet on it.
Cubbie75
Lol it’s like MLB baseball.
bigkempin
You think he’s going to opt out when he’ll be 31 and guaranteed $209M? What’s in your Kool Aid?
therealryan
If he stays relatively healthy and continues to produce as he as up to this point, it’s very possible Stanton chooses to opt out. It’s not unprecedented for a 30+ year old to get $209+ million.
Albert Pujols signed for $240M as a 32 year old. Votto signed an extension that paid him $225M starting with his age 30 season. Miggy signed an extension that pays him $248M starting with his age 33 season. ARod signed a $275M contract at 32. Cano signed for $240M at 31. There are also pitchers like Price, Scherzer and Greinke who signed $200+M contracts at 30+. Some of these contracts will be over 10 years old when Stanton has his chance to opt out and we will also see huge contracts given out to Harper, Machado and Kershaw in the mean time.
tdaly
That’s would be ideal
Cardsfanatik
You won’t see Machado or Harper contracts in a “couple years”, they are both FA’s this coming off season. So unless you’re going to make Stanton opt out after one year in NY, you’re drinking some spiked kool aid.
jekporkins
I think that’s why the Yanks got him. Rumor is Machado and Harper might ask for $500m. Stanton is in their talent range and is (I can’t believe I’m saying this) $200m cheaper.
Slipknot37
Yeah. They’re pretty much banking on he stays healthy. Unless he’s like David Ortiz in his final season, Stanton will not be good in his final years on the contract. Or at least, he won’t be worth the money he’s getting payed
Dgmilazz
Not if they can win a WS or 2 in the next 4-5 years
Howard-NY13
Kind of excited and not, cuz I’d rather have Harper that is a FA next year but it’s Giancarlo Stanton so cant complain
Just plz accept so ik at least we get somebody
cspaced25 2
There is no guarantee Harper is a FA. Yes I agree most likely he will be but you can’t guarantee it. Much like when teams were waiting for Starsburg to become a FA and then he signed a deal.
Red Ivy
Thank you thank you thank you Brian Cashman. Bryce Harper to cubs 2018 confirmed.
fmj
yeah ok
MaverickDodger
2019???
Red Ivy
“2018” winter meetings = “2019” opening day roster.
MB923
No guarantee Harper would sign in NY. Waiting for FA can backfire. Look at the Mariners who have a weak farm and just traded several top prospects to try to get Ohtani , only to see him then go to a division rival. Yankees made some trades too for Bonus pool money
ducksnort69
Their farm is awful, so it was actually not much of a gamble.
Free Clay Zavada
Trading the only halfway decent players in your farm is actually a gamble, I would say.
ducksnort69
Halfway decent in a bad farm isn’t much of a gamble. Agree to disagree.
Dock_Elvis
If your #2 prospect projects as a potential back of the rotation piece with his meh 89-92mph fb….yeah you’re system isnt strong.
Free Clay Zavada
It is when your farm is now completely decimated…
Dock_Elvis
Youre making an assumption they dealt prospects for Ohtani money. They added Dee Gordon which added payroll. DiPoto is always dealing
mdbaseball05
Right, and it’s not like they just lose the money either. It just means they have extra to spend on international players. Their farm system sucks, but it’s not like their top prospects were panning out..
ronnsnow
and it’s at this moment, Stanton changes his mind about wanting to go to NY
edreed20
Who did we give up!!!?????
Kayrall
Ellsbury obviously…..
kbarr888
Not a chance that the marlins would take on that contract. No chance in hell. They’re shedding payroll, not “trying to trade a player”.
You are stuck with that guy……LOL
Brace4It
Not a snowball’s chance in hell. Ellsbury has a full no-trade clause. You think he would waive it to go to the rebuilding Marlins?
Chris Sale Amateur Tailor
Text sucks at sarcasm.
cspaced25 2
Castro to start to off set some money. No other names yet
kbarr888
Castro will be flipped to some other team within a week.
edreed20
I could see that to the jays or something
bush5104
“We”? You play on the team? You own the team? You coach the team?
atlbraves2010
seriously???
elscorchot
I bet you’re fun at party’s.
rerogers
must be a Rangers fan.
Whos123
Wtf is that supposed to mean?
dugdog83
BushLeague more like it
costergaard2
When you put years of heart and soul into a team, you get to say we. When these players and managers and sometimes owners come and go, edreed will remain. He gets to say we…
thughand
Nah Cuz. Unless you’re getting paid by the organization, there’s no “we” involved.
coastalcarolinachamps
I love it when idiots use nicknames!! Like they are best buds with the player!! Asshats!!
tac3
actually … he does their analytics!
Cubbie75
oh good grief. people have been saying “we” to refer to their favorite team since sports were first invented. everyone knows it’s not meant to be taken literally.
dano
New York Post reported that the Marlins would receive veteran second baseman Starlin Castro in package of players and prospects.
floridapinstripes
Bronx Bash Brothers
Judge & Stanton with the 3rd Amigo Sanchez
Mattimeo09
Racist
gorav114
Collusion
Adam6710
You mean a no-trade clause, where publicly said he’d happily accept a trade to the Yankees, thus forcing the Marlins hand?
Yeah, collusion.
dugdog83
Jeter. The Yankees. Comes out publicly saying he would play there. A couple bogus teams in the mix he can say no to first to get people off the scent.
That’s quite easy to see man.
MB923
Keep trying. Matter of fact no. Just give up.
marijuasher
We truly don’t have to go much farther than Stanton for Castro with Jeets pulling the strings.
Reality is, Jeets bought a ballclub with commitments. Public commitments, as in a $30 mill per season contract with the NL MVP.
But Castro had a bounce back season, yeah?
Adam6710
He also said publicly he’d accept a trade to the Astros, Cubs, and Dodgers.
A player with a full no-trade saying he only will accept trades to 4 cities– one of which is the Yankees– is not collusion. Note that all 4 teams were in the playoffs. Basically, Stanton wants to join a winner. Having spent his career on the Marlins, is it any surprise?
What you’re suggesting is that Jeter spending his own money to buy the Marlins and is secretly a Yankee plant, trying to help them win while he loses money.
That’s not collusion, that’s a tin foil hat conspiracy theory.
lucienbel
I mean, with a full NTC and saying he’d only go to the Yankees wouldn’t be collusion either.
gorav114
Yea Jeter bought a team where they couldn’t afford payroll yet still gets approved and then that payroll was made to disappear in favor of Jeter by his long time organization of just relatively recent times. Next you’ll say Matt Lauer didn’t have a button under his desk and then his same network announced the winner of the Time person as the year as those in the metoo movement. Sheep
floridapinstripes
Not the Yankees fault he wouldn’t drop his no trade clause for any other team that would trade for him
ducksnort69
None of us know for sure anything, but as far as appearances go it doesn’t look great regardless; unless you’re a Yankee fan.
Adam6710
How does this “not look great” in terms of right and wrong? Players have vetoed and exercised their no-trade rights MANY times before, in MLB and other leagues.
Cole Hamels refused to waive it for the Blue Jays. Alphonso Soriano refused trades to the Pirates. Jonathan Lucroy vetoed a trade to the Indians. All three were eventually dealt to other teams.
ducksnort69
Step outside your own bubble. Okay, so now see that an MVP is being traded for little value to an organization that hemorrhage’s $$$, oh and the organization that’s sending the MVP was recently purchased by a ownership group headed by a player who played his whole career with said $$$ hemorrhaging org… hmmmm. Oh yeah, and Torre.
Adam6710
Step outside yours.
You’re suggesting Jeter is a secret Yankees plant within a competing organization. That he spent millions of his own money to help the Yankees win. That’s a full fledged chem-trails level conspiracy theory.
The reality is that Stanton wanted to go to a winner and had a full no-trade clause. The only winning team with the resources and willingness to use them was the Yankees.
AllRiseForTheJudge
Maybe wake up and see that a guy with a full NTC said he would only accept a trade to four teams. Two of those teams forced the World Series to game 7, while one of them was eliminated in game 7 of the ALCS and the last team is set up to win a second time in the next few years.
It just so happens the Yankees were the most aggressive after Miami was backed into a corner. Tak your tin foil hat off.
Phil1234
Wow, he will hit 50 again in NYC. And with Judge in the lineup? Insane. What’s the last team to have to 50HR guy in the same lineup?
belkiolle
Judge won’t hit 50 next year. The likelihood is that Stanton doesn’t either.
Adam6710
as a natural skeptic I’d normally agree, but with hardly any way to pitch around Judge, Stanton, Sanchez, and Bird in the middle of that lineup, I think it’s very plausible for the two of them to each hit 50+.
If they don’t, expect Sanchez and Bird’s totals to rise, so maybe all four hit 35+.
schmuckbenny
With the short porch Stanton will probably hit 60+ if he has another healthy season.
Free Clay Zavada
Yeah the odds are that Judge hits less, but you can’t say he won’t, it’s definitely still a statistical possibility.
fox471 Dave
Why?
Adam6710
The only players to hit 50+ home runs in consecutive seasons EVER are Babe Ruth (1920-21), Mark McGwire (1996-1999), Sammy Sosa (1998-2002), Ken Griffey Jr. (1996-98), and Alex Rodriguez (2001-02).
It’s possible– and hitting back-to-back with the likes of Sanchez and Bird around them– perhaps even somewhat likely, but still statistically difficult.
tigerfan1968
Yankees with Mantle and Maris in 1961 maybe.
gmenfan
Yes, this was the only time in MLB history that it’s happened.
Vogt83
So Jeter trades the MVP to the Yankees for nothing? Hey, just include Ozuna in the deal while your at it! Ridiculous.
Rob L. 2
This was more a salary dump by the Marlins than anything. They accomplished their goal-rid themselves of that monster contract and save some money.
ducksnort69
Yeah, and just happened to benefit the Yankees. Nothing to see here. Pure coincidence; and having Torre where he is doesn’t signal anything either. No way they get preferential treatment…
internet1tough1guy
Benefit the Yankees?? Lmao.. please explain… Let’s pay a guy 300 mill over 10 years that MIGHT play 800 games over that period.. the team that benefits the most is the cubs, cuz now Harper will go play with his BFF Kris Bryant and them and their wives will be having orgies every night
Red Ivy
Dilly! Dilly! Harp to the Cubbies!
ducksnort69
Oh sob sob sob, the Yankees and their money problems. C’mon man, that AROD contract didn’t even really hurt them and it was an abomination. They swim in a sea of money that is constantly deluged with money storms.
ABCD
Dude, that’s a clown comment. If you’ve ever seen Bryant and his wife, they are about as square as can be.
mack22 2
Dodgers front office should be fired
Senioreditor
Dumb, just pure dumb.
xscalabr
It’s a troll, don’t give him attention senior
fox471 Dave
Why?
IloveMACfootball
Collusion
MB923
Lol
raiders
How is is collusion if the Marlins gave Stanton a full no trade clause and he said he would only let the Marlins off the hook if he could go where he wanted??
MB923
It’s not. Let me just translate what he really meant to say. – “I’m bitter”
stevebaratta
“Marlins off the hook” – good one!
ABCD
Starlin’s doing the fish about now.
lord vincent
Agreed!
wjf010
He’ll hit 70 home runs playing 1/2 his games in that bandbox they call a stadium
The_Porcupine
The saving Grace is that this makes the Yanks less likely to go after machado next off season. Can’t imagine any team willing to shell out mega contracts for Stanton and Machado, knowing they will soon have to pony up for severino, judge, and Sanchez.
mcase7187
They still have no pitching remember the Sox’s tried something like this a few years ago and they flopped ( I’m not saying that the Sox’s players are on the same level) but with out pitching you’re still fighting a losing battle
RealHalSteinbrenner
Best bullpen in baseball and
Severino
Gray
Tanaka
Montgomery
(Sabathia)
As starters…. ya no pitching there at all :/
Munsonmanor4
Severino pitched well last year. Let’s see if he can do it two years in a row, Gray, hasn’t pitched like Gray is capable since 2015, Tanaka, could it be the reason he didn’t opt out of his Yankee deal is once other teams looked at his medicals, no way he would’ve even matched what he’s getting in NY? Time will tell, Montgomery, hard to say what he is since last year was his first one. Sabathia or somebody else, in the 5 slot. How serious are the Yanks in getting under the luxury tax threshold? That will depend on whether they sign someone or just go with internal youth for the 5th slot. Still like what the Red Sox have as they are 6 deep in starters. Sale, Price, Pomeranz, Rodriguez, Porcello, Wright. They obviously don’t have the power the Yanks have, but we’ll see what they do. If they sign a Martinez though, don’t say it was a “reaction” to Stanton. Everybody under the sun knew the Sox are going to sign somebody with more power than they currently have even before this.
Adam6710
No one is saying this rotation is going to mow down the league, just that it’s wrong to say they “have no pitching.”
internet1tough1guy
Wouldn’t really call that good pitching.. severino his solid.. gray is ok at best, nothing to brag about.. Tanaka is not what he once was, not even close.. cc isn’t cc from 6 years ago.. their pen is pretty solid. Cubs pitched Chapman to death and he isn’t the same anymore, that’s why cubs didn’t try to get him back. I’d bet Yanks don’t make the post season next year. Red Sox, Houston, Cleveland, angels, and one of Mariners, rangers, twins
Adam6710
That pitching staff got them to one game of the WS just 6 weeks ago. Maybe they miss the playoffs, who knows, but hard to bet against them, and with their up-and-coming pitchers in the minors, they could be even better.
posterizer
Ok tough guy
Joe sodano
The jealousy on this site is astronomical. The Yankees have a top 10 if not top 5 rotation. Period.
AllRiseForTheJudge
LOL you’d bet the Yanks don’t make the postseason next year? How high are you? The Yankees were within one game of the World Series WITHOUT Stanton.
Sorry, their pitching staff is fine. The Yankees recognize what they have in a starting rotation, which is a bunch of guys who can give you 6 solid innings. That’s why they have one of the best bullpens in baseball and, let’s be honest here, you don’t need great pitching when your lineup is capable of putting up 10 runs a game.
As a biased Yankees fan, Stanton makes them the favorites to win it all next year. They were 27 outs from getting to the WS with their “no pitching”. Go troll elsewhere.
Adam6710
@posterizer. I make a fair, reasoned argument, and your response is a challenge of toughness? I don’t even know where to begin.
@AllRise. I said It would be hard to bet AGAINST them.
I hate this interface. I can’t tell who is responding to who!
mcdusty31
He was responding the guy with “tough guy” in his username
Cubbie75
I agree about this interface. It makes things confusing.
costergaard2
No pitching ? I didn’t see you at game 7 of the ALCS. Severino 3rd in Cy Young voting ? Tanaka highest win % in the last several years ? #fakenews
posterizer
Stupid comment- “no pitching”? Where does that idiocy come from? Stop being bitter
mcase7187
You have 3 injury prone players a 2nd yr player ya you had one good pitcher who’s next up when you lose a pitcher or 2
Also I wasn’t talking about the bullpen
thetruth 2
Jealousy and ignorance, bad combination.
Aoe3
I believe Stantons contract will seem like a discount compared to Machado, Harper.. Poor Castro! He was a good second baseman, whos going to play there now?
As a Toronto fan, NY has a very exciting team with respectiable players to watch. Wow a great gm u have! Ill root for u as a second team.
baseball30214
Yanks will still sign Harper
reds0x4life
How? Stanton has a massive Contract, Judge & Sanchez will get huge contracts in a few years not even the Yankees can afford to take on so much money on 4 players. (Harper is going to get 350+
internet1tough1guy
Dream on. It’s clear as day that he wants to play with his BFF in Chicago. Him and his wife and KB and his wife are always posting about it and raving about Chicago. It works perfectly for the cubs because they have schwarber who isn’t really a fielder and they can now trade him for pitching.
Adam6710
As for who plays second, the Yanks have a wealth of prospects, with Gleyber Torres– a second baseman– topping the list. By all accounts he was due to hit the big leagues this season already. Miguel Andujar, also ready, is another infield option.
SundownDevil
Stanton played 1B in high school. After this stupid Greg Bird experiment is over, they can move Stanton back to 1B and sign HARPER.
vinscully16
This is the ARod situation all over again. One deal falls through, then the Yankees swoop in. Just like ARod, Stanton wants to ride a few coattails along the way, too.
rascnyc
what else is new, jeter and yanks are pen pals. Every one in ⚾ world knew he would go there.
rascnyc
W hat else is new, jeter and yanks are pen pals. Every one in ⚾ world knew he would go there. Don’t act surprised!!!!!
cjuluca
Wait. Dodgers coming in at the last minute to bring him home!
Perksy
As a Yankee fan, I wish that were true. I don’t want Stanton.
kaido24
Glad it’s almost finally over.
inkstainedscribe
If all the Marlins are getting is Castro and some meh prospects, they must be eating a lot of salary.
belkiolle
They = Yankees? Yes.. For that package they’ll likely be taking on most, if not all, Stanton’s contract.
stymeedone
Boy, will Stanton ever look like a jerk if he doesn’t approve it. Wouldn’t it be ironic for the Marlins to back out after he approves it.
RealHalSteinbrenner
This now gives us 6 outfielders(?)…. with Gardner, Judge, Frazier (assuming he’s not in the Deal) and Hicks being + defensive players. So that leaves Stanton and Ellsbury …..
I think Ellsbury has to somehow be included in this deal, or Ca$hman has a another deal pending(?).
I’m anxious to see who the Yanks give up as far as prospects. I would suspect Tyler Wade, JP Feyresian and another low level pitcher
David Dubois
Yankees got him for nothing. here’s hoping that they now choke on the Ellsbury and Stanton deals. hopefully no one helps the spankees by taking on the Ellsbury deal. one of the worst deals ever.
aff10
Has to be better prospects than that. It won’t be Gleyber or anything, but I find it really hard to believe no other teaam would match Tyler Wade for Stanton. Feyersein is Rule V eligible, so he has basically no trade value
Rbase
Would Feyersein still be Rule V eligible if the Marlins immediately put him onto their 40-man roster? I know it’s after the deadline, but isn’t there an exception for traded players?
RealHalSteinbrenner
I’m pretty sure he’d be rule 5 exempt, and obviously if added to the 40man he would not be subject to the rule 5 draft
gmenfan
Yankees fans need to accept this … Ellsbury isn’t going anywhere. There is literally zero reason/incentive for the Marlins to take Ellsbury in the deal. Own your albatross.
Yankees1991
Thanks captain! Once a Yankee, always a Yankee!
internet1tough1guy
Gay… Sooo gay
Rbase
With Stanton, it seems like Ellsbury’s days are over. However, I find it hard to believe that they can ditch him in another trade without eating about 3/4 of his salary.
What about another high-paid bad contract swap: If the Marlins add Wei-yin-Chen, who will make $52 MM over the next tree years, I got to believe they will take Ellsbury. Chen would be a nice (although overpaid) 4th/5th starter who has shown he can pitch with some succes in the AL East, while Ellsbury actually gets a place to play. If he does well in this new-found regular playing time, the Marlins can trade him again for some prospects.
So:
Yankees get: Stanton, Chen, (maybe a filler minor leaguer)
Marlins get: Ellsbury, Castro, decent prospects
Astros2333
Ellsbury has a No Trade Clause as well, very unlikely he approves a trade to a team going nowhere.
Rbase
I think the guarantee of a starting job (as opposed to a 4th/5th outfielder and reserve dh job) will entice him to approve the trade. However, that is of course all up to him.
BTW, I think the Marlins will trade at least 1 of Yelich and Stanton as well, giving them 2 outfield spots to fill.
Perksy
Ellsbury isnt going anywhere. They’re stuck with him, just like they’re stuck with Stanton. As a Yankee fan very disappointed over this. I do not want Stanton.
pdubs2907
Why would MIA take Ellsbury’s contract??
David Dubois
So the GM of the Marlins, Derek Jeter, has colluded with the Yankees, his former team, to give away Stanton for nothing. Should be an investigation, as it looks like the Marlins just became a Yankee farm team. Reminds me of the days when the Athletics were always passing all stars to the Yankees for nothing. Here’s hoping the Spankees choked on that contract.
MB923
How can you say they gave him away for nothing when there has been no word yet on what the Marlins will receive?
Rbase
To be honest, the Marlins had deals in place with other teams as well. So accusing Jeter for colluding with the Yankees is inaccurate.
driftcat28 2
It’s a salary dump. The Marlins are in massive debt and due to the contract, They were backed into a corner. Marlins had no choice but to make this trade. The Yankees will take on a significant amount of money to make this go through and the Marlins will be free to build their team
shawnlaroche96
So now that Jeets owns the Marlins, the Marlins are the Yankees new AAAA affiliate.
baseballmanak
Y’all I stayed up till 3am eastern time watching the vigorously for a result but now it’s finally resolved and I’m so happy, Yankees got one of the best lineups in this decade!
jd396
In fairness they’ve had one of the best lineups in whatever decade they’re in, just about every decade ever
lord vincent
Did anyone ever doubt that the almighty Evil Empirewould end up with him? Being the largest richest market wit MLB headquarters gets them the best of the best screw the rest of baseball.
Stany19
One of the Marlins beat guys think Jordan Montgomery is part of the deal as well
MB923
They said Castro is the only big leaguer going. We shall see. Yankees would need 2 rotation spots to fill if Montgomery is traded.
tigerfan1968
I wonder if Jacoby Ellsbury being included in the package makes sense. The Marlins can not expect the Yankees to take on the full contract for Stanton. Trading Ellsbury should make it much easier to get under the salary cap. Sounds like a win win
Perksy
This is just awful. More prospects gone, and stuck with Stanton for 10 years. Ugh. Guy has only played 145 games three times. I feel like this is the yanks old making this move. Very upsetting.
jd396
Yeah, the old Yankees back when they won 5 rings and 7 pennants in 13 years. Very upsetting.
niched
The Yankees back then didn’t make moves like this until they picked up ARod, after which they made it to one WS. Getting Stanton has huge upside but potentially bigger downside than acquiring ARod did. I think it’s a move they couldn’t not make but is Pujols risky.
gmenfan
Please explain why the Marlins would accept Ellsbury (and his $) in the deal.
Hint: they wouldn’t.
Matt Galvin
He only wanted to go to one of the 4 teams in this years League Championship’s. series. Outfielder has to be in deal from Yankees. No way Wade is in deal if Castro because Yankees then need a 2B. Betances in deal. Next Red Sox make a Major move for a 1B and SP.
ZMZobeck
Who will Yankees have at second?
MB923
Wade/Torreyes/Torres
24TheKid
They can have Cano back.
Bruin1012
I highly doubt Ellsbury is included because why would he waive his no trade to go to Marlins and why would the Marlins take on that contract. Yankees will be over the lux tax again hope it puts them out of next years free agent crop.
Rbase
Because he would get (more) regular playing time. If the Yankees want to start Hicks, Gardener, Stanton and Judge get C. Frazier involved on a regular basis, not much time remains…
rascnyc
What else is new….Jeter and Yanks are still pen pals…don’t act surprised!!!! ⚾ world knew it was gonna happen….
Bruin1012
Why would the Marlins take on that salary even if he waived his ntc think baseball commissioner would get involved if they took on that contract it would smell of collusion.
Bruin1012
His contract is almost as high as Stanton on a yearly amount makes no sense if the Marlins are looking for salary relief.
Rbase
See my post below. I believe the Marlins could get rid of Wei-yin-Chen, another player that will earn a lot of money but would be an ok piece for NY.
Perksy
Because they can probably flip Castro somewhere else at his salary.
Bruin1012
There is no way Ellsbury is included it sounds like it’s Castro and prospects.
Bruin1012
Please DD don’t overreact and give out a ridiculous contract to JDM or Hosmer. Just wait this market out you know that Boras is going to be on the phone with DD telling him exactly how Boston can counter that trade by signing JDM and Hosmer just say no. The Yankees will be mostly out of next years bumper crop wait it out.
tdaly
Please do it DD
Norris426
The KD of baseball..Going to a team ready to win..Doesn’t want to carry a team, just looking to be carried..
gmenfan
Tired comment.
Phoenixdownyjr
⚾ is in no way like .
MB923
One player cannot carry a team in baseball.
jd396
You’re the KD of commenting.
simschifan
Now the Yankees can sign Arrieta and Darvish and wade davis and jd Martinez and they should be set
cjuluca
Send Ellsbury back to Boston!
azcm2511
No thanks….He is all yours. Sucked the yanks into big bucks after a year of goods helped him hit 30. Boston has the panda contract to puke about every time they sign his paycheck.
stretch123
Heard it’s Miguel Andujar and two lesser prospects along with Castro. Hoping for Jordan Montgomery.
As a Marlin fan this is bitter sweet but I’m happy Stanton is going to a place where he can win!
Matt Galvin
Prado has to be in deal because Anderson/Andujar at 3B,Riddle at SS,Castro if doesn’t get Traded again 2B,Bour 1B. Dodgers offer would have to include Gonzalez and so on Salary. Astros better deal because either Tucker in it,a SP,Moran and so on. Cubs starts with Happ. Know if Royals were one of the Teams then have a lot to offer like Cardinals do.
FBA17
Sources say Aaron Judge involved.
FBA17
Gary Sanchez involved according to sources.
24TheKid
Marlins would turn it down and just ask them to take more money.
FBA17
LOL
acarneglia
If you’re a Yankee fan and you aren’t excited then leave
Perksy
I’m not exited, this is awful.. This puts them right back where they were. Stuck in more big unmovable contracts. Plus he’s only played 145 games three times in his career.
MB923
That was when they had many unmovable contracts all on the roster like A-Rod, Tex, Ells, CC, Tanaka, etc
Right now the only player with a bad contract is Ellsbury
troll
just like the giants and cardinals, he won’t be a yankee. all a game to get the dodgers all in.
bluejays12345
Oh crap. Look out the the AL East
24TheKid
Can’t Harper play center field?
Kaizoku
No Harper
bastros88
Harper ain’t coming guy
24TheKid
I’m not a Yankee fan nor do I want him to to go to New York. I was asking if Harper played center field because the Yankees still could sign him, and I thought I remembered him in centerfield when he came into the league.
thestevilempire
Congrats to the Yankees and their fans. As a Cardinal fan it was difficult to hear him turn us down but there are other players to pursue and many more ways to win. He obviously wanted to play in a big market and that’s perfectly alright. I would rather see someone be where they want to be than not. One of the interesting observations that I’m going to watch is how he adjust to playing in New York. He’s not in the small pond no more, and no place will make someone feel that more than NY. You can only hope he’s more Jeter than A-Rod
Cubbie75
it’s not that he wanted to play in a big market, it’s that he wanted to join a team that wins.
Goose
It would be fun for baseball having Judge and Stanton on the same team. We might see the first 60+ homer teammates with Yankee Stadium’s configuration.
As a Red Sox fan I miss the days of the 2003 and 2004 seasons which where capped with two epic post seasons back to back. The Yankees still need to beef up their rotation.
jd396
Just what baseball needs, more big market autoerotica
tdaly
More than Castro has to go or the marlins have to eat salary. Giants and cards were getting 45 million from the marlins. No way with increased leverage Yankees accept less.
Perksy
Ugh this is awful. I hope someone fails the physical or something. I though the yanks were done with this kind of stuff? The long term over inflated contracts. I want the young players to play. This is just a killer. I’m an upset yankee fan.
Phoenixdownyjr
What did I miss is Giancarlo old or something? He is 28 and judge is 25 himself. I’m personally offended I’m 26 and you are making me feel old
Kaizoku
You are younger
azcm2511
Just what baseball needs right now, the stink of a set-up. It wasn’t bad enough that Jeters group was not the strongest …..now the biggest name on the market gets traded to his lifelong franchise for a bag of peanuts and a soft drink.
xscalabr
Do you realize that he has a contract that will eventually become an albatross. Yeah, that significantly lowers his value, especially if the Yanks were taking on most of his contract
jd396
He was the MVP and his contract was already an albatross.
0428April
It would be hilarious if Stanton does not give his approval to be traded to the Yankees 😉
keepinthafaithsd1
LA will unfortunately jump in at this point and screw everything up for you guys. Being a Padres fan i hope he goes to NY… METS! jk jk relax guys
Bald Vinny
Everyone dumps on Dombrowski for dumping farm systems. How about Cashman? 2016 #1 pick Babe Rutherford, 2015 #1 pick Kaprielian, 2013 #1 pick Clarkin, former #1 prospect and “Moncada clone” Mateo, Tyler Webb, Dustin Fowler, Garret Cooper and whoever is in this deal…. I feel like i missed a couple.
wanderguzman
and yet still in the top 3 farm system,but what about the blowsucks
Bald Vinny
You are dreaming if you think they are top 3. Tigers, Dodger, Padres, White Sox and Braves…. although Braves need to be redone.
Ry.the.Stunner
According to Bleacher Report, the Yankees were #3 farm system at the end of 2017, and that accounts for the fact that the Braves were #1 at that time before they were stripped of a dozen prospects (they certainly aren’t anymore). They also have the Tigers listed at #17, so I have NO idea what made you put the Tigers in the Top 3.
Bald Vinny
Bleacher report list from Sept has Frazier on the list, no longer a prospect. I’ll take Sickels at minorleagueball.com over anything Bleacher report spits out.
MLBTRS
You’re absolutely correct on that; BR is a casual operation compared to Sickels.
jdgoat
Definitely not too 3 but top 10 for sure
driftcat28 2
Only difference is the Yankees system is still stacked even after those moves, meanwhile DD gutted the Sox system
Coast1
Cashman picked up a bunch of good to great prospects in Torres, Frazier, Sheffield, Tate, and McKinney. So he can afford to deal some.
Dgmilazz
Cashman also acquired these guys which is something DD doesn’t do well. And even after these trades yankees still have a top 10 system in baseball.
MB923
People haven’t dumped down on him because he still has kept other top prospects like Torres , Frazier , Sheffield , Adams , etc And the Yankees farm system is still somewhere in the top 5–10
Adam6710
Ok, where are those “top prospects” now? The actual bad trades he’s made involved Mike Lowell, Ted Lilly, Tyler Clippard, and Mark Melancon.
But by and large Cashman has been exceptional at leveraging a weak farm system, acquiring the likes of Bobby Abreu, Nick Swisher, Didi Grigorious, and Randy Johnson (among many many others) while giving up relative peanuts.
For years the Yankees had a terrible farm system, but still managed to use it to swing some incredible trades that helped the team.
Phoenixdownyjr
What did I miss is Giancarlo old or something? He is 28 and judge is 25 himself. I’m personally offended I’m 26 and you are making me feel old
jd396
It only gets worse
TJECK109
ARod part 2
ducksnort69
That contract didn’t hurt them at all. The luxury tax talk was a bunch of crap. A guy like Stanton in the market right now would easily get that contract. Yanks having money problems is the funniest joke in baseball.
jd396
Scrappy little tough luck Yankees making a splash.
CompanyAssassin
Thanks to all the people who hated on the Yankees for the whole Ohtani thing, they one upped the baseball world.
imindless
If this goes thru say good bye to bryce harper or manny machado lol. Gotta think about judge extension aswell as serverino and sanchez.
Yankeepride88
Don’t need Harper or Machado with Stanton and Torres
jdgoat
This has the potential to blow up in their face. As a non-Yankee fan, I can realistically see it turning into a great move for them or a franchise altering bad one
mike156
It depends on what they give up in return. The money is just a lot of money.
PixelMelonz
I’m disgusted.
redsoxrob9418
So true
njbirdsfan
Let me guess: the return for the Marlins will be far less than recent deals for comparable players, so Jeter is doing the Yankees yet another favor. And of course no one will question it because it’s Saint Derek.
Coast1
The Yankees may regret this. Stanton should have 3-4 great years but the last 4 years of this deal are going to be really bad. Look at the comps through age 27. They were pretty much all ugly after age 32-33.
redsoxrob9418
Just very happy the Sox didn’t waste the money
ctguy
They already did on Sandoval
imindless
Not over just yet, like the title says pending “His” approval. This is the marlins last attempt to try and gain “leverage” from dodgers. If they can extract say a verdugo or urias from the dodgers that would be a huge win. I gotta think if yankees are only sending castro they arent sending good prospects. Why wlse would they leak this much info, lower level prospects. Dodgers can easily match or surpass that.
Ry.the.Stunner
Face it, it’s over. Stanton has already said he’d approve a trade to the Yankees.
imindless
I dont believe the media. Could just be marlins gaining leverage. They also said a deal with giants and cards would already be completed. A week ago ohtani was going to yankees. I’ll believe it when it reads stanton agrees to trade.
Coast1
Friedman will never take the contract for the reasons I stated. He hasn’t committed over $80 million to anyone since he came in and he isn’t committing to $295 million.
mike156
MLB will love it for the TV ratings angle. As a Yankee fan….this strikes me as just the wrong way to go after the last couple of years of building for the future with youth.
SundownDevil
In other news….. A TIM DIERKES SIGHTING!
mlb1225
So what will happen to Hicks? If Judge and Stanton will be in the corners, will that make Gardner the primary CF, or will him, or Hicks be traded later during the off-season?
Kaizoku
Yeap.. same than Ellsbury.. 21 million waste..
Dock_Elvis
Marlins dealing Dee Gordon and then having Starlin Castro incoming so quickly means to me that StL and SF werr just pawns in a Yankee negotiation shell game. The Yankee deal was the forefront deal all along.
coldgoldenfalstaff
Yankees doing Yankee,things.
Would have been nice to see the Astros land him, but at least it’s obvious that they can’t stand pat if they want to repeat.
Solaris601
As long as Stanton approves and this drama finally ends, there is no excuse whatsoever that we shouldn’t see a flurry of signings and trades during the winter meetings. Will be refreshing not to see any more daily updates on Stanton and Ohtani.
phutility
Current Miami Marlin head honcho and former Yankee legend gift wraps the games premiere power hitter to the Bronx.
Nothing dirty about this at all. Seems completely legit. Unbelievable.
yanks02026
Even though jeter tried to trade stanton to the giants and cardinals but stanton wouldn’t allow it. So how is it jeters fault.
phutility
Come on Bro did you really believe all the background noise?
They knew they had to make it look good. Snap out of it Man.
Coast1
Jeter will have the last laugh. it’ll take a few years but he will. Like the Cardinals with Pujols.
phutility
Have you looked at Stanton? Stanton is a machine. Pujols was a medical school specimen when he was traded. Giancarlo Stanton has the potential to hit 500 more HRs, Break Barry Bonds HR record over the next 10 years.
mike156
That’s absurd. Two deals on the table that Stanton turned down. And you want to conjure up some bizarre conspiracy?
Adam6710
Keep that tin foil hat tight!
I keep saying it, there is nothing dirty at all. This is a case of a massive contract that needed shedding and a player with a full no-trade clause. There are maybe a handful teams even capable of adding that contract, even at a reduced value, and only ONE that he was willing to waive his no-trade for.
End of story.
IBFarr
Jeter is coming in the clutch again for the Yankees.
phutility
Scandalous
66TheNumberOfTheBest
So, they traded an All Star at a position they don’t have another All Star to replace them to acquire an All Star at a position they already had an All Star.
I honestly don’t get why the Yankees did this…other than because they could.
Bald Vinny
Because Teh HOMERZ!
jdgoat
If I’m a marlins fan and I don’t get at least a couple of Frazier, Florial, Adams or maybe even Torres, I’m livid. I wouldn’t show up until they got another new owner.
gmenfan
Marlins fans should prepare themselves for being livid.
The Jeter disdain in South Florida grows by the minute.
rascnyc
Conspiracy with the pen pals…..Jeter and Yanks…⚾ world knew it would happen…..and don’t act like you didn’t know….
rand027
This “super team” trend is professional sports is pretty lame. Players all gravitating to the same team to win. I understand that losing sucks but they are selfishly throwing off the competitive balance. If this goes through, the AL East is sewn up for years and probable the entire AL. Starlin Castro plus low level prospects? Give me a break.
Adam6710
3 of the top 10 AL MVP candidates were on the Indians. 2 were on the Red Sox. 2 on the Angels. The rest were the Yankees, Indians, and Astros. Over in the AL, the top 10 MVP candidates this season were on the Marlins, Reds, Diamondbacks, Rockies (2), Nationals (2), Cubs, and Dodgers (2).
This is hardly a case of a few teams all getting the best players. Competitive balance is as good as it’s ever been,
Macias22
In other words… The Yankees clinched the AL east today.
phutility
NYY Yanks land Giancarlo Stanton meanwhile the kddie GM of the Phillies is preaching patience to the Phillies fan base eventhough the Phils have finished a combined 200 Games out of first place the past 6 years.
Phils ownership made $80 M in net profit last year. Most any MLB team has made in 25 years.
Can MLB heirarchy please investigate what is going on in Philadelphia.
They have made baseball disappear in one of the games great baseball markets
66TheNumberOfTheBest
I predicted a year ago that it will be the Phillies who sign Harper.
I like those odds even more after today.
Coast1
Andy MacPhail is risk adverse. He talks about chasing unicorns. He’s only giving Harper a 10 year deal if John Middleton insists on it.
xscalabr
You guys should be nowhere near a front office ever
phutility
Why is Bryce Harper going to want to play with arguably the worst team in MLB over the past 6-7 years?
Phillies money is no good to superstars. Thats the part the Phillies management doesnt seem to grasp. Their money is no good.
Coast1
Stanton has a horrible contract. Matt Klentak is at least smart enough to avoid that deal. Stanton’s final 5 years will be like Ryan Howard’s final 5 years.
GarryHarris
I agree and history is on the side of this prediction… Howard, Pujols, Cabrera. However, Stanton is in better physical shape than those others.
Coast1
That sounds logical but I don’t think there’s any evidence that physical shape had anything to do with baseball talent holding up into the mid to late 30’s. I don’t think there’s a correlation. Lance Berkman was in good shape. His ages 34-37 seasons WAR were 1.4, 3.5, 0.5, and -0.1. Matt Holliday age 34-37: 3.3, 0.8, 0.3, 0.0.
Jayson Werth ages 33-37: 0.6, 4.7, 4.1, -1.6, 0.3. Carlos Beltran appears to have held up well, but here are his age 33-37 seasons: 0.7, 4.7, 3,9, 2.3, and -0.2. That’s not terrible, but Stanton will be paid $150 million for those 5 years. For that price you should get 25 WAR. Werth 8.1 and Beltran 11.4. So your upside is disappointment and your downside is next to nothing.
phutility
How do you know that?
You dont .
Stanton last 5 years may be Barry Bonds like. 45 HR- 135 RBI
krok0806
Trust the Process
cjuluca
Stop going to the games to watch a AAA team.
KingTiger
“Yankees GM Brian Cashman has assembled a Murderers Row of right-handed sluggers.”
in a ballpark built for left-handed sluggers…
If they pull this off, we may see some fences being moved.
ctguy
Wasn’t an issue for Judge last year. Was it?
kbarr888
DODGERS MAKING A LATE PUSH!!!!
Not saying they’ll actually get Stanton, but they’re buying time by reminding Stanton that “they are still trying to make a deal”.
That could get in the way of an approval……..by Stanton.
Or he’s banking on an Opt-Out after 2020 when he’ll be a FA and can go to the Dodgers then.
jd396
He probably would be going to the Cards or Dodgers if that was his plan.
jd396
Cards or Giants, I mean. If he was just thinking about getting out of MIA and using the opt out.
GarryHarris
This is really going to stir up the off season. If Starlin Castro goes to the Marlins, they will try to move his contract. For the Yankees to continue their effort to reset the luxury tax, they will make a strong effort to move Jacoby Ellsbury, Chase Headley, Brett Gardner and possibly Masahiro Tanaka.
I’m a little disappointed with the Yankees. They were rebuilding intelligently, not shopping.
Their biggest need is a strong 2nd Catcher. Either way, it sure has spiced up MLB.
justin-turner overdrive
Wow, Frazier ISNT in the deal?!?!? What becomes of him? Another trade? There’s no room for him and he needs everyday AB’s somewhere.
krok0806
Gerrit Cole?
justin-turner overdrive
Pirates are good for OFs, they’re already trying to trade Cutch so Meadows can take over.
Frazier for Manaea or Graveman?
wch1974
Congrats to Mike Stanton for getting the opportunity to play on Aaron Judge’s team. What a loser. Do these guys even care about their legacy anymore?
nyy42
Idiot
davidcoonce74
Mike Stanton retired years ago.
wch1974
He started his MLB career as Mike Stanton, changed it to Giancarlo in 2012.
davidcoonce74
Yep. His given name is Giancarlo Stanton, and everybody calls him by the name he asks to be called by, except you, apparently.
krok0806
What will Marlins get in terms of prospects? I am guessing none of the yankees top guys, as reports say lower level prospects. Maybe a few pitchers (perez #10, guzman #9, sauer #11, schmidt #12, widener #15, martinez #16) and maybe Dermis Garcia #20.
cardfan2011
Well this move escalated quickly
Bub_36
Drum roll everybody! ….. come on Dodgers keep dragging this thing out! Lol
beetlejuice
Harper could end up with Giants, you never know.
Logjammer D"Baggagecling
Harper is now gonna stay with D.C.
bernbabybern
Someone should collect all these tears and dump them in southern California.
ffjsisk
Just read on CBS that the plan is to move Gardner to center with Hicks DHing and filling in all 3 OF spots. Obviously Ellsbury is staying to what do the Yanks do with Clint Frazier? Trade for pitching?
davidcoonce74
Why would Ellsbury be staying? He’s a sunk cost and he’s not any good at all.
southbeachbully
Gardner only has 1 year left on his deal and will be 35 at the end of the year. I think it’s more likely that they will bring him back as the 4th OF or let him walk after 2018.
As for Frazier, he could either headline a prospect based deal for pitching or they might decide to DH Stanton and Frazier takes over in LF after this season.
1b-Bird
2b-Torres or Estrada
SS-Didi
3B-Torres or Andujar
RF-Judge
CF-Hicks
LF-Gardner (2018. Either walks in FA or returns as a 35 yo 4th OF)
C-Sanchez
DH/LF-Stanton
Bench-Headley (1B/3B), Ellsbury, Frazier, Torreyes and Romine.
Yanks are in a good situation to have tons of depth or make a trade to fill other needs. I wouldn’t be shocked to see Frazier traded to acquire another prospect further away from the mlb.
elscorchot
Just want to know the prospects.
Ken M.
Castro, Guzman and Dermis and 35M
dlevin111
Sounds like this was Jeter’s plan all along. Get other teams involved in trade talks and then give Stanton to Yankees for almost nothing to insure they get back to the World Series every year
dynamite drop in monty
Ensure
southbeachbully
Jeter has to answer to people as well as serve his own interest as part owner of the Marlins. I’m sure he will do nothing for the Yanks that might jeopardize what he’s trying to do as a member of the Marlins.
Realistically, Jeter’s hands are tied in terms of who Stanton will approve a trade too and what teams can afford to absorb the salary.
justin-turner overdrive
Oh really, so Jeter is going to buy the Marlins to help the Yankees, huh? Yeah this doesn’t sound like collusion or anything lol
phantomofdb
Yeah this is at the least suspicious. They trade Gordon away to “shed payroll” but agree to take on Starlin Castro, who isn’t as good and costs almost as much, PLUS 35 MILLION?!? this trade should be rejected by mlb
Chris Sale Amateur Tailor
But….but…having a great Yankees team is good for baseball as a whole!
chino31
They will flip Castro to the Mets
GarryHarris
The Marlins will try to flip Castro
dobsonel
Castro is only owed $22 mil over 2 years and Stanton is owe $295… How is this “almost as much?”
phantomofdb
Not what I said.
southbeachbully
Who else is there for the Marlins to deal with? It’s what, 4 teams that Stanton indicated Stanton has agreed to waive his no-trade? If those teams make it clear what they will or won’t do they they really don’t have anywhere to go,
My guess is that they’ll flip Castro to free up more cash and net a couple of prospects.
Ry.the.Stunner
“Almost as much”? In what realm is $22M almost as much as $295M?
phantomofdb
In the realm of reading comprehension when I said almost as much as Gordon.
justin-turner overdrive
Darvish is definitely going to the Angels now.
Ry.the.Stunner
Doubtful. That would piss Ohtani off, who made it clear that he wanted to be on a team without another established Japanese star on it.
southbeachbully
Did he make that clear or did he state that having another Japanese player was not going to be a factor into his decision making process?
bobbleheadguru
Seems fishy that Jeter is in the middle of this.
cjuluca
Boston counters with $200million deal for JD.
chino31
Definitely a bidding war for JD from Boston and Toronto.
southbeachbully
Haven’t had time to read the previous comments so forgive me if my rant proves to be redundant.
Stanton is an absolute beast but I’m not too thrilled with acquiring another 150 ko power hitter. I would rather they acquire a Joey Votto ish high batting average/high OBP guy. I also am not crazy to have another $200 mil/$30 mil guy on the roster and for the record, am probably in the minority as to not wanting the Yanks to go after Machado or Harper if they become FA too.I’m also in the minority it seems in thinking that Castro was a good player who IMO will be a consistent 25 hr, .290/.340 kind of guy and develop the way Cano and Melky did eventually.
That being said, it is what it is. We have tons of depth at 2b with Torres, Thairo Estrada and Nick Solak all at AA or AAA right now. We’ll probably be fine at that position.
My guess is that some combo of Juan Guzman, Albert Abreu, Freicer Perez, Luis Medina, Donny Sands, Matt Sauer or Trevor Stephan are going to Miami w/ Castro. Hopefully, they were able to retain Estevan Florial. The report says the prospects are all in the lower minors so that makes me feel that Torres, Andujar, Adams, Sheffield, Frazier and Domingo Acevedo are safe. If they can acquire Stanton and NOT give up a top 6 prospect then that would be an amazing job by Cashman,
I still think we need better contact hitters who can hit for average, draw walks and put the ball in play. Between Stanton, Judge, Bird and Sanchez that could easily be 600 kos.. In comparison, the Astros stuck out about 1,050 as a team last year.
My guess is that we’ll go into spring training with 2B and 3B open for competition with Torres, Estrada, Andujar and maybe even Nick Solak competing for a position. Headley can be the back up for 3B and 1B and maybe see time at DH.
Obviously, this is all about the Yanks ability to absorb Stanton’s contract but man…..to get a guy like that, still have a team with the likes of Judge, Bird, Sanchez and Hicks still early into their careers, have a great farm system and to NOT give up a top prospect either? Magnificent Cashman. Laying in the weeds waiting for an opportunity to strike.
B-Strong
Well this is sickening news for Boston and the rest of the AL East.
driftcat28 2
Heyman reporting NYY taking $265 MM of what’s owed to Stanton. Offset the 21 MM owed to Castro (assuming MIA is taking all of that) and Stanton costs the Yankees $244 MM. #Bargain
justin-turner overdrive
He’s just giving LA 2 years to get their act together so he can opt out and go home. Might as well as play on a contender in the meantime. It’s why his OK list was the 4 most contender-y teams.
socalbum
by 2021 the Dodgers OF will be set and Stanton 32 will be that much closer to a full time DH
ABCD
His list was rather lame.
“Who made the LCSs? Ok, I’ll go there.”
I’d love to hear Ohtani’s thought process, but doubt he’ll be sharing.
Rbase
“What is on the West coast and close to Disneyland?”
ChiSoxCity
PATHETIC.
joefriday1948
Starlin Castro is destined for greatness and the Marlins were lucky he was not traded to the Birds- because of his interest in them. However with ever new species moving to Florida, odds are Starlin will be chirping the national anthem before the season is over.
Dave 32
Hillariously bad scenario for the Marlins. Baby Stanton picks two teams, one doesn’t care, the other says “okay, you pay the luxury tax, take a guy off our payroll we don’t even want, and a couple of crap prospects to make it look like we tried” and the Marlins have to say yes.
Dad
Time for the Cardinals or a St Louis radio station to find a 80’s model Ford T-Bird,paint it Cardinal red and send Stanton “the Bird” to spring training
madmanTX
For the poor haul Marlins getting back, Yankees shouldn’t be getting any money in their direction.
dust44
How he will age? Him and Judge will literally rotate RF and DH for the remainder of his contract. That’s how he will “age”. Right into the DH role
SG
I’m happy for Yankee fans,
Looks like they have another Murder’s Row.
For years to come.
Yankees should be a very entertaining team.
Wondering why Stanton wants to pay more in income taxes by going to the NYY?
He makes the call since he has a no trade clause.
Guess he wants to win or at least be in the race now.
Congrats to Jeter for unloading the weight on his payroll.
Perhaps we should now think of Miami as part of the NYY farm system .. LOL
JKB 2
@ George B
You are wondering why Stanton “wants to pay” more in income taxes? Really?
Stanton is going to say no because Florida does not have a state income tax? I guess you do not know that Stanton already pay taxes in New York and about 20 other states.
SG
What the hell are you talking about?
I’m an IRS Agent and saw where Stanton was smart enough to realize he would be paying a state income tax in NY and NYC and that he pays nothing in FL. as they have no state income tax.
My comment was “tongue in cheek”.
And I answered it it the next sentence or 2.
I’m guessing Stanton is willing to pay more in taxes be on a winner.
phantomofdb
What does being an irs agent have to do with knowing state taxes? Different entities. Stanton indeed pays New York taxes on his road games, but half his games were tax free to the state before. Now no games will be tax free
MLBTRS
The tax code is convoluted enough for the average person but for pro athletes it’s a nightmare. Regarding Stanton, if he lives in FLA he’ll still be legally domiciled there if he’s there at least 180 days/year, which will save him some $ in state income taxes, but he’ll still have to pay that tax to every state (and city if it also has an income tax) if he plays in one of their cities. Regardless, if the trade to NYY goes through, his total tax obligation won’t change much if he lives in FLA and remains in FLA.
davidcoonce74
And also there’s the little issue that Stanton makes more money than basically 99.9% of the people on the planet and taxes have literally zero impact on his quality of life.
phantomofdb
I don’t think New York would allow him to do that lysander. They have a “convenience of the employer” rule that doesn’t allow what you are talking about. Derek jeter attempted to claim that exact thing, that his permanent residence was Florida, but New York tax department said he clearly earned the bulk of his income and therefore his tax home was new york.
petfoodfella
The New Golden State Warriors of MLB are in NY.