Should the Orioles decide to trade superstar third baseman Manny Machado prior to 2018, his contract year, they could find a taker in Philadelphia. The Phillies are among “the more interested parties” in Machado, Roch Kubatko of MASNsports.com reports. The Orioles have studied the Phillies’ farm system in the event of a deal, and they now “covet” right-hander Sixto Sanchez (Baseball America’s 61st-best prospect), per Kubatko. Second base prospect Scott Kingery and major league shortstop Freddy Galvis could also be involved in a potential trade, Kubatko writes. But a swap would require a 72-hour window for the Phillies to extend the 25-year-old Machado, according to Kubatko, and hammering out an agreement could be a tall order given that he’s so close to hitting the open market.
More of the latest trade chatter:
- The Yankees reportedly came away from talks with the Pirates with the impression that they won’t move righty Gerrit Cole. However, the Pirates are at least willing to listen to offers for Cole, per Buster Olney of ESPN (Twitter link). The Yankees and Bucs match up well for a potential Cole trade, sources tell Olney, who notes that Bombers general manager Brian Cashman and the Pirates’ Neal Huntington have swung plenty of deals in the past.
- In the wake of the Giancarlo Stanton acquisition, the Yankees are loaded with outfielders. Although that seems to be bad news for Jacoby Ellsbury, who’s toward the bottom of the Yankees’ current outfield depth chart, he’s still “unlikely” to waive his no-trade clause, Mark Feinsand of MLB.com tweets. The belief is that the Yankees would eat roughly half of the $68MM to jettison Ellsbury, according to Jon Heyman of FanRag, but it could be a moot point if he’s unwilling to go anywhere. And Cashman said Monday that Ellsbury “has a spot on the roster” and “will compete to take his job back,” Alex Speier of the Boston Globe relays (Twitter link). On the other hand, if the Yankees make 23-year-old outfielder Clint Frazier available, the Athletics would unquestionably have interest, Susan Slusser of the San Francisco Chronicle reports (via Twitter). However, the price to acquire Frazier would likely be too high, Slusser adds.
- The Tigers expect to deal second baseman Ian Kinsler, GM Al Avila told Evan Woodbery of MLive.com and other reporters (Twitter link). Meanwhile, they’ve gotten “mild inquiries” on arguably their most valuable trade chip – righty Michael Fulmer – but they’re not actively shopping him (via Anthony Fenech of the Detroit Free Press, on Twitter). “There are a handful of teams out there that have the players to do it, but we have not come close to those conversations,” Avila said of a potential Fulmer trade (Twitter link via Jason Beck of MLB.com).
- While the Brewers are listening to offers for outfielder Domingo Santana, there’s not a lot of traction in trade talks, Jerry Crasnick of ESPN tweets. The Brewers want “an affordable impact starter” for Santana, Crasnick suggests. GM David Stearns told reporters Monday that “if we’re going to even consider trading someone who is such an important part of our team, we are going to expect a sizable return” (via Adam McCalvy of MLB.com, on Twitter).
weber722
Good work, Stearns. Don’t dump a valuable piece like Santana without getting a starter back. I’m glad he’s the dude in charge.
Marytown1
This would be the time that Bud Selig would trade him for a bunch of nobodies, a box of twinkies and of course— cash considerations. I’m glad to have read that was Stearns stance.
brewcrewer
No kidding same here. I don’t think he’s lost a trade since he’s come here, so I’ll believe whatever he does is right for now
daveineg
Stearns was taken to the cleaners by Billy Beane in the Khris Davis deal.
augold5
Davis was blocking Santana. Also, Bubba Derby had a nice season last year. I wouldn’t say he got fleeced.
Chris Sale Amateur Tailor
true but he’s been good overall
Connorsoxfan
Also, by acquiring a guy named Bubba Derby you automatically win the trade because his name is so awesome
11Bravo
Yeah Davis was such an important part of a team that won 75 games. Meanwhile the Crew won 11 more games without Davis. Pretty sure Stearns had no issue dumping a one dimensional player.
pdubs2907
Ya seriously nothing against Khris Davis but he’s a one trick pony (power) with a noodle arm. Yawn.
Bairllps
Lol the same Billy Beane that traded Josh Donaldson for who again? Oh yeah no one who will be an MVP like Donaldson
imindless
Phillies would have to add a lot more to pry machado away from the o’s. Arguable that he and arrenado are the best players at the position. Would cost a lot more than 2 prospects.
realgone2
Agreed
jt3z
Agreed but him only having 1 year left so that gots to play into a deal
phutility
Phils have 7th best farm system in MLB. Sixto Sanchez is the Phils #2 prospect and throws 102 mph at 18 y.o. . Scott Kingery is Phils #3 prospect and has been labeled a Chase Utley clone. Thats a haul for player you are most likely going to lose for nothing next season.
tac3
I agree that it would take more than 2 prospects, but I would say not their #2&3. Sixto and Kingery is a haul for the O’s…. In other words … It ain’t happening unless Klentak loses his mind. More like Franco, Cozens,Kilome, and others. The O’s would get Crawford before Kingery at this point. Philly Nation can wait a year that’s for sure
Curtis Beale
Santana back to Astros for Colin McHugh
Solaris601
That’s a very realistic trade. Also, Santana to Cleveland for Danny Salazar would be perfect, but the likelihood of division rivals making such a deal is very remote.
Potpot106
Brewers and Cleveland are not in the same division. Not even the same league
Mattimeo09
They used to be lol. Maybe Polaris is stuck in the past
driftcat28 2
(1) at this rate I feel like the Yanks will ultimately have to DFA Ellsbury
(2) what could the A’s give up for Frazier?
Benklasner
Matt Olson?
emt tim
dumb lol and a reasonable trade piece would be holmes and yario munoz
emt tim
scratch that, Fraizer for Jed, Holmes, and Munoz
shanedelreal12
That feels pretty fair. Yario feels expendable with some of the guys they picked up lady year.
NCYankee
Kap and Mateo!
slider32
I could see Cashman moving Ellsbury or Gardner to the Giants, D-Backs, Rockies, or Mariners. They were at the bottom in Lf play last year. Frazier could be a headline player for a young controllable pitcher like Weaver of the Cards, or Cole or Duffy.
stymeedone
Why won’t Yankee fans accept that Ellsbury has no trade value, none, nada. Not only does no team want him, but his no trade clause prevents it, even if that fictional team existed.
mike156
Ellsbury is a competent player. He’s just not worth his salary. He has a no trade, so unless he’s willing to go, he will stay. But if he’s willing to go, there’s a net price where other teams would take him.
AllRiseForTheJudge
Because he does have trade value to a team in need of a starting CF. He spent a lot of last season hurt and by the time he was ready to come off the DL, Hicks had been playing well above his contract and had a firm hold on the job.
Ellsbury is still a starting CF, just not worth his current contract. If the Yankees ate 34 million and kicked in a B prospect, he’s moveable. That said, I don’t see the Giants as a fit because Ellsbury isn’t really an upgrade over Denard Span. He is, however, an upgrade over someone like Carlos Gomez, and the Rangers could use the help.
Ellsbury + 34 million for Profar? Or would Texas want more?
thecoffinnail
Why do fans like you lump all of us Yankee fans together?? Ellsbury has value at about $12 million per season.. If he gets traded and if (and that’s a big if) he can stay healthy he will be worth more..
Since he has an option remaining I think they should send him to the minors to start the year.. Since he has 5 years of playing time he can refuse the demotion and become a free agent.. If he does then he would forfeit his remaining contract.. I bet a demotion will rile up Boras and get him to get Ellsbury to accept a trade.. If not he can be stashed away at AAA in case of injuries.. He can be the Yankees Allen Craig/Rusney Castillo..
Or they can just release him like A-Rod and eat the money.. Either way they need to get him off the 25 man roster to open up an OF spot for Frazier/Cave/McKinney..
I see the Yankees being the Yankees though and trading Hicks while his value is high (and Cave or McKinney), rotating Gardner/Ellsbury in CF, and Judge/Stanton/Frazier (who also played lots of CF in the minors) between corner OF and DH.. With their talented bullpen and their willingness to use the Scranton shuttle they can afford to carry one less pitcher..
Mattimeo09
But that price involves the Yankees eating most of his salary if not all of it.
Not to mention the fact that Ellsbury will probably only want to be sent to a contender, and the likelihood of a current contender wanting a past-his-prime outfielder is very low.
g55s
Ellsbury doesn’t make sense for Giants. Maybe if he was 28. But no way now.
Solaris601
At this point Ellsbury doesn’t make sense for any team.
thecoffinnail
He makes sense as a cheap replacement for Ozuna in Miami with the Yankees eating close to $40 million.. They can take him plus $30 million and send back Prado to play 2nd for the Yankees.. I liked him a lot in his brief stay in the Bronx..
thetruth 2
Pitching so maybe Sean Manaea? More pieces will probably have to be involved.
AllRiseForTheJudge
1) Ellsbury has options left, the Yankees could simply force his hand by demoting him. He would then have two options: play AAA ball for millions of dollars or reject the assignment and become a free agent, forfeiting his contract. I can’t see him giving up millions by refusing to report to AAA, so he could report for the sake of his contract and ultimately demand a trade. The Yankees would have to force the issue, though.
2) I have no idea what Oakland’s farm system looks like, and I don’t think they have much on the big league roster. Jharell Cotton looks promising, but with an ERA north of 5.50 in a park as big as Oakland’s, I can’t see him having success in the Yankee Stadium bandbox. And I’m a Yankees fan.
I’m thinking St. Louis or Colorado are better matches. Stl could start by danging Alex Reyes and the Rox could offer Brendan Rodgers. Frazier’s already proven he can play in the show, the Yankees just have nowhere to put him. I’d obviously rather see Ellsbury unloaded, but I think a top-tier starter or a high-end prospect capable of manning 2B has to come back for Frazier.
pdubs2907
I don’t think the Rox or Cards would trade those guys for Clint Frazier.
newyorkyankee7
Kaprelian,Fowler,and Mateo
gorav114
I absolutely love my Orioles and want to see Machado everyday and the Orioles still being in it after July but the truth is the team is treading water. They must acquire multiple pitchers through free agency or trade. The other option is dump it all. They have tons of value with Machado,Jones, Britton, and Brach. They could get the farm system in the top ten and still have great talent on roster in Schoop, Bundy, Gausman, Mancini, Givens. They have some young talent in Hays and Cisco. The Orioles have a window where they could rebuild quickly like 2 years if they do it right.
realgone2
If they traded Manny in the next few months they could get a haul that would lead to a much quicker rebuild.
stl_cards16 2
I believe that was his exact point.
slider32
The O’s are between a rock and a hard place right now similar to what the Royals were a year ago. They will need to unload both Machado and Britton at the deadline.
Trevor 3
I like it! Let’s do it!
thecoffinnail
The problem is position players are not bringing back what they were a few years ago at the deadline.. Pitching is what gets the big prospect returns.. If Britton returns to form in the first half they will get far more for him than they will for half a year of Machado.. If they are going to trade Manny it needs to be now when teams are still filling out their rosters.. Too bad the Angels don’t have the farm to trade for him.. They seem to be gearing up for a run this year and having Machado plus Trout on the same team batting back to back would scare any pitcher in baseball..
Benklasner
Santana to the cardinals for wacha
realgone2
not a chance
baumer16
The only point in trading Santana is to get someone like Archer or Stroman.
brewcrewer
Dream big teenage queen
baumer16
You don’t think Santana could be used in a trade for Archer or Stroman?
eilexx
Santana could be “used” in a trade for Archer, but he’s not the headliner. IF the Brewers want Archer the package STARTS with Brinson.
scottstots
Santana has higher trade value than Brinson. Santana is 25 hit 30 hrs in the show last year and looks to be a borderline allstar for the foreseeable future. Brinson has a high ceiling but it is not far higher than what Santana is doing now. I think the rays would trade archer for Santana, one of Erceg, Diaz or Dubon and either Bickford or Diplan
11Bravo
Santana AND Brinson for Archer? What are you smoking?
pdubs2907
I’m a Brewers fan but Brinson/Santana probably wouldn’t be enough for Archer. It’s certainly not too much.
11Bravo
Respectfully disagree. If that’s the asking price for Archer then that’s an easy pass. As much as they need pitching, he’s not worth both of them.
thetruth 2
“I’ll trade my spare pieces for your good players”.
Mattimeo09
Said every MLBTR proposed trade ever
Mattimeo09
*MLBTR Commenter
Phillies2017
I don’t want Manny. He posted a .310 on base percentage last season, and when were talking about Sixto and other as well as a contract that would likely be $200-$300 million over a decade, I want no part of it.
Also power doesnt age well.
bucketbrew35
Sixto AND Kingery who could be a Chase Utley level talent. In other words, h*ll no! Machado would be an absolute fool not to test the market. When he does, if he’s really part of Philly’s plans we back up the truck.
Caseys Partner
The media is going to crush Machado this year to try to get him to give up his free agency. Harper will feel it too if the Nationals come out dead like they did two years ago.
Dannydeman
^ more like 350-450 million over 12 at least
PhanaticDuck26
yea, i get that he’s pretty awesome and only 26, but he’s already had both knees operated on hasnt he? he has seemed to recover fine from it for now, but 10-12 years down the road? i dont think he gets 12 years. 10 years 300million
Regi Green
He could also take a shorter deal and become a free agent again at 30,31.
Mattimeo09
It really depends on the season he has
dudeness88
that’s what player options are for
bucsfan
The Pirates, if asked by the Yankees about Cole, should answer Torres plus. And if that causes the Yankees to hang up, so be it. The Pirates shouldn’t just roll over for teams and give them their best players—you want quality, you give up quality. And yes, I’m aware this won’t happen. I’m just tired of it as a Pirates fan.
Marytown1
Same here as a Brewer fan. That’s what our old owner did. MA is much better.
thetruth 2
The top prospect in baseball for a starter with 2 years of control and 2 OK years? If he repeated his 2015 and not get significantly worse in both 2016 and 2017 then you’d be right. Cole is worth Frazier+ but certainly not Torres. A fair return for Torres is someone like Archer or along those lines.
Empire Exoticz
Sorry man, but Cole is not worth Torres. Cole has been on the decline for 2 straight years. Has 1 complete game in 5 years. His era this past season was over 4 and average almost a hit per hitting.
bucsfan
I get it, but I’d rather hold Cole than settle. My stance is if you want the established big league player, it should hurt from a prospect standpoint. And honestly, it’s the only way the Pirates could be competitive. I understand it’s an overpay, not going to happen, etc. I’m just to the point where if I was the GM I wouldn’t care anymore if I was being reasonable.
slider32
Bucs need to rebuild, they need to make the best deal they can for Cole. They have missed their window.
Caseys Partner
Pirates farm has been nuked.
yanks02026
So if it’s Torres plus. Then you must believe Cole is better then Chris Sale.
bucsfan
He’s not, by any means. But there’s no obligation to trade Cole. Just like there’s no obligation to trade Josh Harrison. If the Mets want him, I’d ask for Thor. And I know that’s an overpay and not going to happen either. I’m just tried of the Pirates being treated like a farm system for big market clubs that can outspend our pathetic ownership.
melfman1
Cole has been mediocre for two straight seasons, and you want Torres. Delusional!
Carter1515
Time for Pirates to rebuild is now. Won’t be able to afford Cole and McCutchen likely to move on. Rebuild around Marte, Polanco, Bell, and Taillon. See if you can get Frazier for Cole. If not, try to get Andujar and a SP prospect.
tiredolddude
Rebuild? The state of MLB means small market teams develop players and perhaps contend for a couple years and then watch them scatter to the big markets. Meanwhile, the large markets will always contend, as they have the resources thanks to the fairness of MLB
“Rebuild” isn’t an apt term.
And always have to laugh at writers who say the Pirates and Yanks have mutual goals that can be addressed. Hilarious, it means Cashman can once again steal from the Bucs and give nothing (Hey, thanks for Cervelli). Hold onto to Cole unless you get top prospects. Not all Pirates fans are only looking for more bobble head and fireworks nights
Carter1515
So what is an “apt” term for a small market team with expensive veterans they won’t be able to resign and a window that has more than likely closed due to Cubs’ success and STL ability to spend to fix problems? Selling veterans and hoping to acquire some impact prospects to make a run in 2019/2020 seems like a small scale rebuild.
bucsfan
It’s a rebuild, but it just pushes the cycle back a few years. The Astros are a great comparison of what the Pirates could be, but the pirates will never go all in and make the deadline trade for a Verlander. So they are stuck in a endless of cycle of counting on pre-arb players to be generational talents to compete.
Carter1515
And they are currently caught in the middle; either commit to a minor rebuild or make a trade to help ASAP. They will rely on hitting on a reclamation project. If they want to do it correctly, trade Cole and McCutchen (both of whom they won’t be able to resign),and trade Harrison. That isn’t a firesale but would allow them to reload and go for it when Polanco, Marte, and Bell are entering their prime.
newyorkyankee7
Every trade Yanks have made with pirates Yanks get back garbage. Pirate gm always try’s to screw the other team. Keep Cole,Torres ain’t goin nowhere but 2nd base for Yanks. By the way Yanks will just get Cole when he becomes a free agent in 2 years or maybe they just let him rot in Pittsburgh for not signing with them when they drafted him!!!!!!!!!!!
tiredolddude
Dream on, dude. He’s going back to Cali, Cali, Cali. Bank on it
bucsfan
And the only consolation there is that the Yankees will pay Cole more than he is worth and way too much in his declining years. But then again, they can print money so what does it matter?
steelerbravenation
Teheran for Santana
Mattimeo09
Troll detected
pdubs2907
How is that a troll idea? I’m a Brewers fan; Santana is good not great. Teheran is good not great
lowtalker1
Why would a rebuilding club give up 61st best rated prospect for a one year deal with a super star
Doesn’t make sense
Os are reaching hard
Solaris601
Baltimore’s asking price will be outrageous because Angelos is allergic to rebuilding. I doubt he even wants to entertain the idea of trading Machado. By the same token he doesn’t want to pay for the kind of starting pitching the O’s need to actually be competitive in 2018. He’s about to get a cold slap to reality by June at the latest.
66TheNumberOfTheBest
Gerrit Cole has always been destined to be traded to the Yankees.
Clint Frazier starts the package. His hard nosed style would play well in Pittsburgh.
Probably one more good prospect and a lotto ticket gets it done. Seems like it would be a relatively easy deal to work out.
swartnp7
Frazier, Andujar, and a-ball lotto ticket.
Empire Exoticz
I think the Yanks would replace Andujar with one of thier top pitchers. I believe 7bof thier top 10 are pitchers
66TheNumberOfTheBest
Sounds about right.
Huntingdon at least should ask for Frazier and (spelling will be off but) Kaprilean, the first round SP who had a TJ surgery, though.
Varangian
Kaprielian is with the A’s
Crewfan620
I think chances are slim to none on Domingo Santana trade based on his comments. I don’t think it’s super likely he will find s team willing to trade a controllable starter for a controllable OF. Best bet would be some sort of 3 team trade where the Crew gets prospects in return and then flips them for a pitcher.
scottstots
Its a bait and switch, teams are going to call and offer X pitcher for Santana, Stearns will scoff at them and then they will ask about Broxton who is the guy Stearns actually wants to trade
Padres2019ha
Padres should do a 3 team trade w the Yanks for Ellsbury and there prospects. They need to rid themselves of payroll, havr a depends farm, and we have a small payroll. Its the same as paying penalties for international prospects. Hell, we took in Oliveras contract just to get rid of Kemp
Luis6789
I was a fan of the atlanta braves since 1990 but at the time of the penalties I took this decision to leave them and move to the Yankees. organization that respects the fan and does not walk with traps.
diller79
Tigers-Mets talking about a Ian kinsler Matt Harvey swap. Other players and prospects may be involved
neworleanstaints
There is no reason for the Pirates to hang on to Cole. Cash in! Pun intended.
DannyQ3913
Orioles are high if they ask that much from Phillies