The Red Sox announced today that they’ve re-signed first baseman Mitch Moreland to a two-year deal that runs through the 2019 season. Moreland, a client of BASH Baseball, will receive a guaranteed $13MM, tweets ESPN’s Jerry Crasnick. Evan Drellich of NBC Sports Boston tweets that Moreland will earn $6.5MM in each of the next two seasons. He can earn another $1MM worth of incentives, per Crasnick.
It’s a surprising move for a Red Sox team that has been linked to Eric Hosmer and J.D. Martinez thus far on the free-agent market. The return of Moreland now makes a Hosmer signing decidedly unlikely, while a match with Martinez would now require an additional move elsewhere in the starting lineup (though that has long seemed likely to be the case). With Moreland back in the fold, he and his excellent defensive reputation figure to be at first base on a regular basis. The Sox will likely turn to Hanley Ramirez as their primary designated hitter once again in 2018.
While Moreland isn’t the big bat for which many Sox fans were pining, he’s coming off a decent season at the plate and another strong year with the glove. In 576 trips to the dish, Moreland slashed .246/.326/.443 with 22 homers and 34 doubles. He also turned in a stellar +10 mark in Defensive Runs Saved and drew a +4 rating from Ultimate Zone Rating for his efforts in 1170 innings at first base this past season. As always, Moreland was heavily shielded from lefties, though he held his own against them in 2017, hitting .247 with a .341 OBP against them in a small sample of 73 plate appearances.
Fitting Martinez or another slugger into the equation in Boston would now likely mean either trading an outfielder or cutting bait on the final season of Ramirez’s four-year, $88MM contract. Ramirez’s initial experiment as a left fielder in Boston was a flop, and the team quickly shifted him from the outfield to first base and DH, where he’s spent the past couple of seasons. Shoulder troubles limited Ramirez almost exclusively to DH duties in 2017, when he hit .242/.320/.429 in 553 plate appearances. The Sox have suggested that he’s healthy enough to play first base again in 2017, though his diminished offensive output suggests that there’s clearly room for an upgrade if the Sox are willing to eat the $22MM he’s owed this year.
If the Sox do ultimately stick with Ramirez, then the encouraging reports on his health likely mean that he could play first base on days when the Sox face a left-handed starter, shielding Moreland from those matchups once again. That’d create room for a right-handed bench bat to slot in at DH those days. Currently, Bryce Brentz would probably be in line to fill that role, though presumably that’s another area Boston will look to upgrade, whether with a dramatic splash (e.g. Martinez) or a more complementary approach (as they took two years ago when signing Chris Young).
From a payroll perspective, Moreland will push the Sox north of the $207MM mark (including arbitration projections and pre-arb players). The Sox, clearly, are in line to pay the luxury tax, though president of baseball ops Dave Dombrowski has previously stated that he didn’t consider staying under the threshold to be a priority this winter. How much they’re comfortable blowing past that $197MM barrier remains to be seen, though Boston doesn’t figure to simply bring back the same club it trotted out in 2017, so it stands to reason that they’ll continue to push past that point between now and Opening Day.
As for Hosmer, the move eliminates one of his primary landing spots, leaving the Padres now as the primary team that’s been connected to him this winter. Kansas City reportedly still hopes to retain Hosmer even as it embarks on a rebuild, so it would seem that there are at least two clubs yet vying for his services.
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Koodle
Oh… great that’s… the same as Martinez/ Jose a/ Eric hosmer
Charlie 5
Imagine if JD was still on the Astros
Koodle
That would be crazy.. I wouldn’t mind that, I like the Astros, hard to hate them
xabial
This is a real plot-twist.
He’s a gold gold glove defender with the best of them but I thought the Sox needed more pop than .246/.326/.443 with 22 home runs and 79 RBI in 508AB from 1B position, platoon or not.
Happy he got a 2 year deal, $13M is reasonable.
WFG1
Yeah, so if the Sox want to keep the outfield in tact does this mean Hanley platoons at DH with JD or at 1B with Moreland??
Koodle
There wouldn’t really be a platoon if JD was playing DH. But he was wants to play outfield… which he can’t to. If JD wants to play the outfield then he’s not worth the money and the redsox trading Jackie Bradley. Hosmer also was too expensive, wouldn’t mind having Jose but there goes the little be remaining of the farm. Carlos Santana would have been a great option but the Phillies decided they wanted him for whatever reason.
bosox90
I don’t think JD would have an issue playing LF at Fenway. I think Beni and Betts could more than cover him in CF and RF and that lineup would be potent. You can protect JD from large outfields and DH him and play either Hanley or Mitch at 1b.
Koodle
How is a RF gonna cover a LF.
ellisburks
Betts shades over a bot and Beni does too.
william-2
There is no covering left at Fenway. You play shallow, and play it off the wall over your head otherwise. Liners are rarely caught in gaps unless they hang up there for exceptionally fast outfielders, or outfielders with great jumps. The only issue would be away games, and learning the wall. Unless I am mistaken, he has a right fielders arm, which plays incredibly well for a left fielder at Fenway especially, but anywhere normally. He covered right at league average, so covering left at league average is perfectly fine.
dwhitt3
Considering LF in Fenway is the size of the local infield grass….
hediouspb
JD moves between LF and DH while JBJ and Morland gets days off against LH starters. Ramirez gets a good number of days off vs. RH starters so he can stay fresh.
hosmer would have been better…
mikeyank55
It’s the Red Sox typical plan B. Let’s load the roster with 1B/ DH’s so that nobody is great on both sides.
Big move means that John Henry has clipped Trader Dave back so that he can’t piss away too much money. It’s really important as they can no longer “park” bad signings in Pawtucket to reduce cap amount.
Speak da Truth
“Hosmer would’ve been better”
Tell us something we don’t know!
But if we wanna have some money for next year’s free agent class this is something that must be done.
Even though I don’t think with Martinez or Hosmer would’ve been enough to win a title anyway. So why get yourself in deeper sh*t?
hediouspb
why wouldn’t hosmer have been enough? people freak out about losing in the first round but they lost to the WS champs. betts and bradly were power sapped because of wrist injuries and devers will have a full season. the team as it stands will hit top 200 HR’s by a decent margin.
they have one of the best rotations, a good bullpen, and very good defense.
the yankees have a ton of thump but they have a two man rotation. Stanton has never played under the bright lights. they have questionable outfield defense. they may win games 15-14 but they will also lose games 10-8.
with the rosters as they stand the sox still win the division.
dlevin11
Moreland has kind of the same stats as Hosmer except for batting average. A much more team friendly contract too.
Joe Kerr
DD recently said they are only going after 1 of them, and most assumed it to be JD. Makes sense to do a cheaper deal at first and go big for Martinez.
ray_derek
Just cheaper
william-2
It is looking more and more like the master plan is one of two things. 1) Hope players hit way more homeruns from last years squad (2) Sign only Martinez, and attempt to move one of JBJ, Ramirez, or both, and make one more addition through those trades. Option 1 will probably get us a wild card, IMHO. Option 2 is very intriguing depending on who the player brought in is. I would guess it would be a very expensive long term contract trade for a very good hitter for option 2 to take place, and lose JBJ to open the outfield for Martinez. Honestly, I would have taken a cheap flier for Gonzalez (just released) rather then Moreland. Way more upside, if the contract is close to the same money.
Randy Red Sox
No-one is taking Hanley in a trade and JD Martinez is just awful in the OF.
mikeyank55
Randy you are right. They will put him in left, the home of so many terrible defenders like Hanley and his cousin Manny.
lasershow45
He plays as good of defense as Hosmer, hits more homers and costs a fraction of the price. And who’s Jose A?
dwhitt3
Jose Abreu
lasershow45
Ah. He would have been a good fit, minus losing the prospects.
jimgpn
We are no better then last year and every one is better. Its the same old red sox have some success and then just lay down . This team cant compete with some of the big boys we need more pop we have alot of under acheivers and i guess management is ok with it . Im glad we are paying dombroski and tony the big money
bluejays12345
So does that mean they are out on Eric Hosmer???
elmedius
I’d hope so.
beauvandertulip
Nah hosmer will play SS
Koodle
Xander moves to the bullpen! It all makes sense now
driftcat28 2
2/13MM? Very cheap. Would’ve expected the Sox to go all out for Hosmer though. Disappointed they didn’t
datrain021
I am too, wanted him for Indians 1B opening, especially at that price
Kevin 23
Why? Moreland and Hosmer are very similar players! Their power stats are almost identical over past 3 seasons. Hosmer will cost $12o million and Moreland cost $13 million.
hediouspb
age… park… leadership…
hosmer is a much better player and his 25 HR in that stadium show much more power than morland’s 22… hosmer hits well over 30/year playing half his games in fenway.
lasershow45
Hosmer is a notorious ground ball heavy hitter. And Fenway goes way deep in right center
mikeyank55
Moreland can’t hold a candle to Hosmer with the bat.
Look at his second half swoon stats.
Bruin1012
Yeah and I’m sure the broken toe didn’t have anything to do with that. Your are hilarious go back to the Yankee sites are you ever going to bring any intelligence to the table or you just going to troll clown.
jeralves79
Agon would never be welcome back after all his bullshit the last time he was here.
KCMOWHOA
Hedging their bets probably in case they don’t get Martinez and Hoz
Bren
This is probably in response to Martinez demanding he wants to play outfield, and rumors conveniently appearing about how AZ is trying to dump Greinke’s contract so they can go after him.
Boras is probably demanding way too much for both, and trading for Abreu would deplete the farm. I don’t blame DD for hedging here. As someone else said… Moreland is a steal for 6.5MM a year.
Randy Red Sox
Maybe we could get Greinke? We need more SP even though Zach is a bit long in the tooth.
MafiaBass
Why would we want Greinke? Boston would eat him alive.
jjburke2018
No Eric hosmer or Martinez
jhowe82
I would assume they are out on Hosmer. This has no impact on JD. They’ll get him
Randy Red Sox
And he plays where? Hanley is not going anywhere.
jimdevinmoriah
That is the right move. We don’t need to clog up first base with a big money and long contract for Hosmer after his career year. Don’t get me wrong, Hosmer is a good player just not worth the years and money that he is gonna no to collect. No go get some second tier starting pitching.
Pedro Cerrano's Voodoo
Agreed. Seemed like a bad fit too.
Ed Duffy
Agree. It also could be a thought towards next year and seeing if Machado or Donaldson want to come aboard as Hanley will most likely be gone and a move to first for Devers could be in the works.
mikeyank55
Don’t be disappointed Ed when they extend Hanley for another 2 years.
jeralves79
They won’t even let him get 497 PAs this year so they don’t have to bring him back in ’19.
stymeedone
Does this mean Cleveland signs Hosmer for 3/$60MM?
dwhitt3
Hosmer will get a LOT more than that
stymeedone
That’s what they said about EE. Didn’t happen.
keepinthafaithsd1
IMHO I think Hosmer has a case of the Ian Desmond’s. Had a good year last couple of years deserves a big free agent contract but won’t cause the markets bad. I bet he’ll sign with a smaller market team for 1-4 years for 18-20 mil a year.
luvbeisbol
Agree strongly. Might the Hosmer camp have overplayed it’s hand with extravagant salary demands?
velorum
What a way to counter the Stanton trade…
MafiaBass
You mean by not crapping our pants? I agree. Stay competitive this year, look toward next year. JD Martinez will not be the catch everyone seems to think.
billy neftleberg
id say that this means JD martinez is their first choice and they realize he’s going to cost more than they planned on
Hosmer and Martinez was always a pipedream
NicTaylor
waiving the white flag… but hey, 3 less HRs than Hosmer last year in 100 less AB, but lets forget Hos .318 BA to 2-bags’ .246… big question now, does this point to RedSox’s aiming for JD and moving on from Hosmer?
kc38
Did you think of this all on your own since they just signed a gold glove 1b???
biffpocoroba
So much for any Brandon Belt trade with the Giants.
trace
I thought Hanley was going to play 1B.
WFG1
Yeah so if the Sox want to keep the outfield in tact does this mean Hanley platoons at DH with JD or at 1B with Moreland??
stymeedone
Yes, sign JD for $150MM + and then platoon him, lol.
Randy Red Sox
Or pay over 40 million for 2-DH’s
Randy Red Sox
DH
Pingleja
Yea, JD has .902 OPS against the Yankees, they’ll get him
Eric D.
I’d take Moreland over Hosmer any day. Moreland can actually Field the position.
YankeeMan3099
This is the dumbest and funniest thing I’ve read all day wow lol you are delusional you should have never posted this comment
InPolesWeTrust
But he’s right though.
qbass187
Yeah he’s right
alexgordonbeckham
At the price he just signed for and what Hosmer will get, I think I prefer Moreland. Especially if signing Moreland let’s you spend at another area of need.
mikeshaw801
Moreland has better numbers defensively than Hosmer. lol
RyanR
He’s right. The Rangers were better when Moreland was around. He’s a good player, but underrated. He also has some clutch moments.
Pingleja
With Hoz’s .684
white_sox9195
Lol is this the best Dobrowski can do ?? I guess no Hosmer no more
Eric D.
Hanley will probably get traded (for basically salary relief) and then sign JD but I would rather the Red Sox went after starting pitching. The offense will improve itself with Cora taking over
Jack hammer
I hope they dont sign JD.. Big mistake if they do
Eric D.
I would be ok with it depending on the specifics of the contract. If it’s more than five years it’s a no from me
Jack hammer
I’d be fine with two years.. Absolutely no more than 3..anything over 3 is a lose.. Two could be worthwhile
aubrey
That’s delusional.. You have to take on bad years to get free agents now.
Kevin 23
Why is signing the 3rd best hitter in all of baseball over the past 3 years a “big mistake”?
Chris
Because of the money and years he’s requesting. He’s definitely a great hitter. But for what he’s asking and since he’ll soon be unplayable defensively, he has to age like Big Papi to not be a disaster the back end of his contract
MafiaBass
Albert Pujols is why.
Randy Red Sox
No-one is taking Hanley but I agree we need SP. I’d be after Cole.
mikeyank55
Hey Eric-they will get as much for Hanley as they got for Pablo. Sorry buddy there are NO takers. Instead he will rot like a piece of fruit and affect others around him.
madmc44
They can get Trumbo for Hanley. A good deal for both teams.
Would you move Devers, Erod. Hanley and a prospect along with cash for Archer, Longoria and Colombe???
I’d hate to lose Devers but those three would make us very competitive this season.
Jack hammer
Snore… Doesn’t bother me or make me psyched in any way.. Just basically a stand pat move.. Please please DO NOT GET MARTINEZ.. He is not the answer and does nothing but pigeon hold you salary cap wise.. Just lay low, and be in on next years transcendent players..
Kevin 23
Next years “translucent players” are going to cost $250 million MORE than Martinez!
stymeedone
And who is going to pay that? Check the teams getting hit by the luxury tax. I will give you NYY and LA. Who will sign with the White Sox or Philly?
Pingleja
I think they should go after the fire sale in Miami and get Bour
southbeachbully
I think Moreland is an insurance policy. I still see them in on the top guys. But they have a little more leverage now;
GaryWarriorsRedSoxx
Great call, didn’t think of that. Leverage with Boras !! DD is a genius !!
mikeyank55
Yes Gary. DD has done an amazing job dealing with the priorities, like lack of power and plugging the 4 hole. Plus his insight in ravaging the minor league rosters is noteworthy. Coupled with his history of overpaying players like David Price, you can look at the Tigers and imagine what the Sox will look like in 2020.
GaryWarriorsRedSoxx
All I’m saying is that the Red Sox won’t be held up by Boras now that we have a backup platoon plan.
J D Martinez DH and a little bit of left field and Hanley and Moreland platoon at first with a little DH.
Before signing Moreland the sox were between a rock and a hard place. Seems like with this one signing there’s plenty of options now.
Rik Hill
I do hope you are right.
Frank kemble
I like it..good defense..20 plus homers.. Leaves money for other thing’s.
skip 2
Great defense you mean!
jdodge22
Listen people.. a time will come for all players where they are not worth the money. The redsox are gonna roll out the same pathetic crybaby line up while the Yankees have gotten better when they were already better. A lost year and ratings will go down even more at which point they will massively over pay for someone
Pedro Cerrano's Voodoo
Same lineup that took the AL East the last two years. How’d the yanks do then? Oh yeah. You sound like a nice troll, no go back under your bridge.
countryjedi3
And that same lineup sucked both years in the playoffs losing in the first round
KillahAC
How’d that WS go for the Yankees? Oh, right….
Kevin 23
I’m a diehard Sox fan but the Yankees are 7-8 games better than Boston right now,and are still looking to add another starting pitcher.
Blake Camden
Mitch Moreland sucks. Why would anyone sign that guy
Whos123
Did you not read? Decent offense and stellar defense
Bert17
Bet this means they’re closing in on a Martinez deal. If they were still far apart and playing chicken with Boras, it wouldn’t make any sense to sign a good-glove, low-power first baseman. They’d be giving up what little leverage they had because they couldn’t say “if you don’t come down off $150 million, we’ll just sign a Logan Morrison 30-homer type of guy for 3/$30 million and keep our great defensive outfield.”
Nick4747
If this means that they finally bring the slugger they’ve needed since Ortiz left fine I guess….
Ed Duffy
Hanley is still a big question mark, doubt this removes them from JD Martinez but maybe it does, or maybe its business as usual, sign for the biggest bucks and forget winning.
If he is off the table, go and resign Nunez. Too many Sox fans forget that exactly nobody in the lineup had career years last year, and there should be improvement throughout the lineup.
Rik Hill
I get the feeling Martinez is off the table but nothing would surprise me. We just need some pop in the lineup badly., but if we have to wait a year for it so be it. Just disappointing at the moment.
MB923
Good deal for the Sox
bosox90
Agreed, I think if Moreland’s foot heals up fine they will get much better value out of this deal than with a long-term Hosmer deal. I hope they can still get JDM, he can play LF at Fenway and other small parks and DH when they are playing in a more spacious park.
madmc44
Moreland had a foot problem most of the season and still produced 22 Long Balls and 79 RBI. Moreland is a good defensive 1 B.
If they sign Arrieta, Cobb or Darvish OR trade for a pitcher that would not hurt my feelings.
93 wins and an off years from Betts, Xander , Pedroia, Hanley and JBJ–I’m not at all disappointed.
Kevin 23
The only starting pitching the Red Sox will add is a #5 starter insurance policy! There is ZERO chance they sign an impact starter.
Solaris601
I’d like to think the Moreland signing is just a drumroll for something much more impactful right around the corner. Still need another big bat to pick up Hanley’s slack for the next season or two.
stymeedone
Car-Go!
JGubb1
I actually like the signing. Saves a boatload for a hitter and another starter. I still have the feeling there’s a trade in the works!
bosox90
My two cents….
I was high on them signing Hosmer, but I think Mitch can provide good value with a cheaper and shorter contract. I still like them signing JD Martinez and standing pat with what they have, which would be:
6 Players (Mookie, JBJ, Beni, JDM, Hanley, Mitch) for 5 positions (OF/1B/DH) when all 6 are healthy. That’s three lefties and three righties which can help spread out off days and help protect against righties or lefties.
If they can sign JDM, and find a way to bring back Eduardo Nunez and get a bullpen arm (maybe Tony Watson?) I’d be very happy with their offseason. The farm goes untouched and they go into 2018 with a slightly optimized roster than the team that won the division in 2017.
Sure, the Yankees took a big leap, but my hope is that a new manager and culture change as well as bounce back years from Price and Porcello will be more than enough to make the Red Sox a legitimate threat. Again, when looking at what their options were, I’d be more than content with this offseason.
DBH1969
Good price at only `13 million. Much better than Hosmer cost…
SundownDevil
They don’t need Hosmer or JD Martinez; swing a trade for Nelson Cruz! He’s a free agent after 2018, he’s guaranteed to hit 40 home runs, and then they can go after Bryce Harper AND Manny Machado next offseason.
start_wearing_purple
I was never sold on Hosmer being worth the potential price tag and an Abreu deal seemed snagged on the White Sox wanting Benintendi. So long story short, I don’t see this as a great move (though the price tag seems right) but it’s not a desperation move that could hurt the team in the long run. Worst case scenario is they could easily eat that contract and attempt the market or hopefully Travis can show something in AAA.
Caseys Partner
Hope for Phillies fans. Maybe Santana does well and can be swapped in late June for Mitch Moreland.
Yankeepatriot
Seems like they don’t want Hosmer (smart on their part). Now the padres can just wait him out and get a good deal for him as they seem to be the one team truly interested in him
okiguess
The Sox just need to bring back Kung Fu Panda.
royals15champs
Good news for Royals fans!
Bruin1012
I really like this deal at the price it’s obvious that Moreland wanted to come back he played pretty well for a guys with a broken bone in his foot much of the season.
This also tells Boras not going to be held up for ridiculous prices.
Let’s see what happens with JDM I’m still saying if it’s anymore then 7/150 or 6/135 you walk get ready for next offseason when there is a lot more free agent options.
SundownDevil
Exactly. I’d rather have Harper and Machado than JDM.
Rik Hill
Of course, but how are we gonna hit this year? He must have some plan.
stymeedone
Harper AND Machado? Greedy aren’t we? Watch, next year will be the year Boston becomes wary of being over the luxury tax threshold.
Bruin1012
Why is that they have already reset the luxury tax by going under last year.
Kevin 23
Harper and Machado are both going to cost $250 million more than Martinez!
SundownDevil
And they’re 250 times better than Martinez. Not exactly, but they’re younger and stellar on defense. They’re not even entering their primes yet, so hold tight this offseason, cheat a little with the Apple Watches or whatever the thing is now, and then next offseason just give Boras a blank check to deliver Harper AND Machado to the Red Sox.
Caseys Partner
Boras does not represent Machado so if he can do this we’ve got a scandal bigger than what just went down in Atlanta.
Pedro Cerrano's Voodoo
Pretty sure 7 years will be a deal breaker for the Sox. I figure 5/125 or 6/150. Still feels like an overpay but that’s what it takes nowadays.
Caseys Partner
More than five years = mucho problemas.
just my opinion
Good signing good cost good defense ok offense Really need current players to play to their own potential , and interested to see what fa signing could be and how it affects current roster
df08988
What happened? Did Adrian Gonzalez not answer his phone after he was release by the Braves, so we had to get Moreland? What a joke. So much for being a Red Sox fan.
mike156
Smart, cheap deal. Boras cannot be happy now. And if Moreland falls apart, a cheap enough DFA.
luvbeisbol
Yes. Yes. Yes.
John Murray
Todd Frazier is a possibility now. He said he’s willing to play second with Pedroia out until June, and beyond that he’d be a 1B compliment to Moreland against lefties. Also an insurance policy if Devers takes a step back. And he ticks the power boxes.
bosox90
Interesting call, he’d definitely bring some much needed outspoken leadership as well as pop at the plate. I wonder if they’ll explore that route for a better price/shorter deal than JDM.
John Murray
I’d kinda like that myself. I like Moreland a lot actually…and I think we could do a lot better than Hanley at DH. And nothing would stop us still from getting JDM too and making it a big rotation. Even without selling off JBJ, who I think still has lots of upside in a stronger lineup.
Rik Hill
It’s official unless they finally trade the overrated hitless wonder JBJ and other pieces for another outfielder that can hit or sign Martinez we are screwed. I get not wanting to overpay a guy who is decent in Hosmer but Martinez can hit despite the crazy contract he;ll likely receive from someone. Still, Dombrowski just screwed us unless he thinks this team will hit for Cora. I pray he is not this clueless. Bad feeling here..
bosox90
This team won 93 games last year under who I believe was a bottom-five manager in the league. The pitching in the division is likely to be much worse this year with Cobb gone from the Rays and possibly Archer and Odorizzi as well. NYY rotation is meh, Baltimore’s is a dumpster fire, and Toronto’s is okay with upside. Standing pat with a whole new coaching staff and culture change may be the best move with the options available. Not saying it definitely is, but definitely don’t lose faith.
NicTaylor
Agreed. If all for 2-Bags over Hosmer at his price. I want to see this team with Cora this year and see the difference the manager makes
AllRise
He said the 5th best ERA in the league & 4th ranked ER is “meh” hahaha. Come on man. Let’s not pretend the Yankees pitchers didn’t have an overall great 2017. That’s even including Chapman’s month long melt down, Betances’ head case hurling oh AND Clippard’s ridiculous and prolonged collapse in the first half. Starting rotation is expected to be the same or better in 2018, so as a Sox fan, I’d be worried if you don’t pick up that big bat you so desperately need.
bosox90
Believe it or not I didn’t pretend the Yankees pitchers didn’t have an overall great 2017. Also was talking about their rotation, and you mentioned a string of bullpen names. I’ve heard quite a few Yankees fans on here pining for more starting pitching because they themselves aren’t feeling so confident.
Nobody knows how Severino’s arm is going to respond to a career high in innings that is expected to increase this year. I like him, and believe he is for real. I think Sonny Gray is a fine pitcher as well, but has been overrated most of his career. It’s the rest of the rotation that leaves me looking at the whole and thinking ‘meh’. I wouldn’t feel good about having CC or Tanaka in my rotation, but that’s just my opinion. I know CC was good last year and in the playoffs but I’m just not buying. I guess we have to wait and see what Jordan Montgomery really is, but he’s certainly not someone I’m worried about seeing on the other side of the box score.
The Yankees certainly don’t have a bad rotation, but I certainly don’t think they are among the best for a 2018 outlook. Thus, “meh.” When the Red Sox and Yankees meet I’m not going to be worried about missing a big bat in our lineup, we plated the 10th most runs last year with quite a bit of injuries. And like my post stated, pitching in the AL East will be worse this year. When we face the Yankees I’m nervous about facing a 2-3-4 of Judge/Stanton/Sanchez (in whatever order) that might combine for close to 150 HRs.
Also, my post was to not lose faith, freak out, abandon ship from a Red Sox fan perspective. I think there is no clear favorite in the division and you’d be crazy to think there is. More than likely the division will be decided by under 5-6 games over a 162 game season. That comes down to a lot of variables and some luck. Just glad the rivalry is exciting again.
Bosox2013
“Cool” either role out the exact same team as last season or sign JD Martinez to a horrible contract. Hmmmm shades of (ironically) JD Drew…..
NOPelicanFangirl696969
Red sox should try sending hanley and prospects to Miami for Ziegler and realmuto
seamaholic 2
What part of “Marlins trying to cut costs” are you missing?
slider32
Hosmer and Martinez are going to be bad contracts for the team that signs them. Fangraphs has both of their projected WARs to be around 3. They are only worth 20 million a year, max 5/100. The Sox are doing the right thing hear, but if they sign JD for 5/150 they will regret it.
Ski to Coors
Both Hanley and Moreland would benefit from a RH platoon partner. I’d imagine they’re looking at bringing in Valencia or Frazier as well. Even Devers might benefit from a platoon.
Yankeepatriot
Eric Hosmer career ops 782
Morland career ops 769
They have around the same amount of doubles and home runs over the last 2 or so seasons as well and morland has a better glove. Hosmer is a good player but Boston got the exact same player for a fraction of the cost of what Hosmer will be
seamaholic 2
Hosmer is 4 years younger and just entering his prime. Moreland is entering decline territory. They are in no way the exact same player.
Bruin1012
I would agree but bang for your buck I can easily see Moreland outproducing Hosmer when you factor contracts.
seamaholic 2
Oh sure, absolutely. Logan Morrison is gonna be the best value of the bunch, imo
Bruin1012
Very well could be.
igotabooner
I think those numbers are a bit misleading Moreland has played his entire career in hitter friendly ball parks while hosmer plays in a more friendly park for pitchers…. Hosmer is one of the best oppo field hitters in the game he would have beaten that wall up like papi did for so many years
RonDarlingShouldntBeInTheHallOfFame
Definitely helps out the Padres. Thanks for cutting Hosmer’s leverage BoSox.
Ken M.
Todd Frazier platoon in 3…. 2…. 1….
B-Strong
I’m glad they made this decision. Now here’s hoping they don’t make a knee-jerk decision and sign Martinez to a ridiculous contract. They’d benefit almost as much by getting another solid pitcher at this point as they would from Martinez.
antsmith7
Didn’t they have the least amount of HR in the AL last year?
Bruin1012
I can easily see a Todd Frazier signing now at this point. I’m thinking this signing means that Boras is just asking too much for JDM and Hosmer and DD doesn’t wait until the end of the offseason when he loses leverage. If he signs Frazier as a platoon partner for Moreland and help spell Devers at third. Then they can wait out Boras instead of being held hostage by the clown.
seamaholic 2
Most of Frazier’s value comes from his still solid 3B defense. Move him to first and he becomes replacement level.
SG
Smart move resigning Moreland Saves big bucks. and addresses their need at 1B.
Now they can resign Nunez.
And now the Red Sox can go after Lance Lynn SP.
And a left handed RP.
To all those concerned don’t forget the Red Sox won the division with this very same team.
They don’t need much to stay in it.
And their young hitters under performed in 2017 and should do better in 2018.
If you think about when they make the playoffs who you would want for a SP you will understand why I want Lance Lynn..
Sale is great, Pomeranz is good, Porcello is erratic, Price is a head case, ERod has a bad knee, Wright is a domestic abuser, Kelly is unproven.
They need one more starter possibly 2.
After Lynn I would go for Vargas as insurance.
And you could put whomever fails as a starter in the bullpen.
Realtexan
Well dang it, was hoping for Moreland to re-sign with the Rangers. What a let down this is
Nobby
It’s gonna be a long boring year at Fenway.
GarryHarris
What will BoSox do with CF Rusney Castillo (30)? He gets paid $11.8M – $14.3M the next 3 years. Will he take over for Chris Young as the 4th OF? If they’re not going to use him, there must be other “bad” contracts out there of players BoSox might be able to use instead of that contract being a complete loss.
Ken M.
No. He wastes away at Pawtucket until his contract expires. As of now, his contract doesn’t count towards the luxury tax, so why add it?
David Dubois
Wrong, his contract, all $11m per season counts against the cap. Moving him off the 40 man roster does not remove his contract from the cap calculation.
madmc44
I would like to see them send Castillo to Japan for a year. Good for him and an opportunity to rejuvenate his career.
dazedatnoon
I see BoSox dealing HanRam’s contract away here shortly.
bosoxforlife
If Matt Kemp can be traded then anybody can be traded, maybe.
stroh
Moreland averages 22 HRs and 75 RBIs a season, Hosmer averages 20 HRs and 85 RBIs and both are gold glovers. One gets paid $6.5M/year and the other is looking for a contract north of $20M/year. I think signing Moreland is smart, and Hosmer would be an overpay.
RyanR
Agreed!
yanks2009
Not after Santana contract
madmc44
I like Frazier and Nunez. They seem to play like guys that like to play old fashioned Baseball.—$7 M each. I would look to trade for Chris Archer. I have liked him for a while. He is Hickey Trained. I like Lance Lynn he is a competitor. Sox , I think should go after all four of those players. Archer and Lynn, Price, Sale and Porchello. That’s a tough 5 man rotation.
I would trade Pomerantz and ERod. I would look to move Pedroia. and Hanley. I realize moving Pedroia is heresy but I think they should show the team they are serious and that we need to improve.
You could get some prospects for Pomerantz, ERod and Hanley. to help build the Minor League program. Moving Holt and any of these three could open some new players to the Sox system. These four players have not come up through the Sox system. Hanley was originally signed yes but not like those on the roster.
SG
I agree with you totally on Nunez and Lynn.
I agree with you on Archer being a great pitcher but don’t see how they get him without a trade and I don’t want that.
I want to keep Pomeranz and Pedroia.
Hanley has only one more year so he’s no big deal.
Frazier is good but they don’t need him now that they have Moreland..
Yankeepatriot
There is no reason for anyone to knock this move. He’s older but Hosmer isn’t much better than morland. At this point morland will look like a dollar tree version of Hosmer considering how much he will get paid by whoever signs him lol
MattNY
I hate the Red Sox, but I like this move for them. Assuming Hosmer gets anything close to what is projected, this is a much better value. Good glove and a solid bat.
Harry h
So far its looks like the red sox are conceding the American league east to the Yankees and are going to be playing the angels in the wild card game.At least that’s what it’s looking like right now LOL.
GarryHarris
The Yankees haven’t won the division yet. The Yankees made wholesale changes to their starting lineup and hype doesn’t always equate to instant wins. However, the Yankees have the potential to have best bullpen of all time.
The BoSox don’t need wholesale changes; they do need to improve their super-sub and the bullpen. They need to stay healthy.
RedSox4Life4ever
Just a thought and not very fond of the thought myself but…..Would the Sox now trade Devers and some prospects to Baltimore for only 1 year of Machado?
Bruin1012
No not a chance.