12:10pm: The two teams have announced the trade.
11:15am: The Padres look to have found their shortstop for the 2018 season, as they’ve reportedly reached a tentative agreement to acquire switch-hitting Freddy Galvis from the Phillies in exchange for minor league right-hander Enyel De Los Santos. The teams have yet to announce the trade.
Galvis, who turned 28 last month, is a free agent following the 2018 season but will provide the Padres with a strong defender to serve as stopgap while ballhyhooed prospect Fernando Tatis Jr. continues developing in Triple-A El Paso. It’s been suggested in the past that Tatis could debut late in the 2018 season, so a one-year placeholder may be all the Friars truly need at the position. MLBTR contributor Matt Swartz projects Galvis to earn $7.4MM in 2018 after his final trip through the arbitration process.
In Galvis, they’ll acquire an OBP-challenged defensive specialist that has significantly increased his power output over the past two seasons. Galvis hit a combined 20 homer from his rookie season in 2012 through the end of the 2015 campaign. However, he popped 20 long balls in 2016 and 12 this past season while batting a collective .248/.292/.390 in those two seasons.
Defensively, Galvis ranks sixth among MLB shortstops in terms of Ultimate Zone Rating over the past two seasons. Defensive Runs Saved is less enthusiastic about his work, pegging him as an average defender and ranking him 12th among big league shortstops. Regardless of one’s preferred defensive metric, it’s clear that Galvis will represent a mammoth upgrade on the defensive side of the game for a Padres club that ranks dead last in shortstop DRS (-38) and UZR (-38.4) across the past two seasons.
For the Phillies, Galvis was on the verge of becoming expendable with top infield prospects J.P. Crawford and Scott Kingery on the cusp of MLB readiness. Dealing him to San Diego will allow the Phils to deploy Crawford at shortstop from the get-go in 2018, assuming he looks ready to be tested against MLB pitching on a full-time basis in Spring Training. He’ll line up between Maikel Franco at third base and Cesar Hernandez at second base, assuming Hernandez (another trade candidate) isn’t moved prior to Opening Day as well. That trio will be joined by breakout slugger Rhys Hoskins at first base.
De Los Santos, who will turn 21 on Dec. 25, was the 13th-ranked prospect in a strong Padres system, per Jim Callis and Jonathan Mayo of MLB.com. He fell shy of Baseball America’s offseason list of the Padres’ top 10 prospects, though BA’s Kyle Glaser tweets that De Los Santos would be a top 10 name in many systems throughout the league. Glaser tweets that De Los Santos sits 94-98 mph with a heater that he commands to both sides in the lower portion of the strike zone. Callis and Mayo note that he already has an average curveball and a changeup that flashes above-average at times.
The 2017 season was a strong one for De Los Santos, who logged 150 innings over the life of 26 appearances (24 starts) and averaged 8.3 K/9 against 2.9 BB/9 with a 44.2 percent ground-ball rate en route to a 3.78 ERA. It’s not clear where the Phils intend to start him in 2018, but he’ll likely either return to Double-A and be in line for a quick bump to Triple-A early in the season or just open the year in Triple-A right out of the gate.
Bleacher Report’s Scott Miller first reported that the two sides were in serious negotiations (Twitter link). AJ Cassavell of MLB.com tweeted that the two sides were close and that a pitcher would go back to Philadelphia in the deal. USA Today’s Bob Nightengale reported that the agreement had been reached and that De Los Santos would be sent to the Phillies in return (Twitter links).
Photo courtesy of USA Today Sports Images.
So long, home runs.
Probably for chase headly
Anything more than that is just redic
The Phillies are trying to open up spots in their infield, not fill them. The Phillies are probably just looking for a couple of low minors lottery tickets
And the padres have a full 40 man
Padres farm is one of the best but let’s be honest he isn’t worth anything in the padres top farm
If he had a few more years of control sure you could probably get something from the top 20…
The Phillies have a full 40-man too. Matt Klentak has been trading for pre-40 man prospects for the last year. I don’t think it’ll be anyone on the Padre 40-man. It’ll likely be a mid-level 2016 or 2017 draftee.
Better get more than just a minor league pitcher for a switch-hitting, gold glove level defensive major league shortstop in his prime.
See Kinsler deal…
Galvis had 1.6 WAR last year, will make roughly $7 million, and is a free agent at the end of the year. I’m surprised they’re getting anything for him. You can get guys like him for less than $7 million.
He had a 1.3 war for a career 3.0
Dude sucks but is self stable
That means that he is better than a replacement player. He is also an established major leaguer. I don’t like this move for the Phillies.
He has one year of control and his career best obp is .309, let’s be realistic here.
That minor league pitcher better not be anyone from the Padres top 15.
Dude!
It will probably be something from the 40 man
You know trash
Or Headley
De Los Santos is a decent prospect, not “trash” by any means. As a Padre fan, not sure I like this one.
Sure
But there are about 10 or so pitchers better than him on the farm
Some rated lower or higher
Also a Padres fan and I dislike. A 22yo SP ready to move to AAA for a 1-year rental who can’t hit? I like defense, but this is an overpay for a team not ready to strike.
The Padres got him from the Mariners for Benoit. He’s not one of AJ Preller’s picks, he’s a back-of-the-rotation prospect on a farm loaded with potential aces and middle of the rotation arms.
He was picked up for a 38 year old reliever, and just flipped for a quality defensive shortstop needed for a groundball-heavy rotation. That’s how a quality GM operates, filling holes and shoring up deficiencies in the big club.
Preller designated Jose Ruiz, a 22 YO reliever with only one pitch, a fastball, to open a spot on the 40 man for Galvis. You should be able to see the utility of the moves, once you realize how loaded with pitching the Padres farm is.
No! A quality GM does not trade prospects for rentals in a rebuilding year.
We got Tatis Jr. for a washed up James Shields and they even ate a ton of his salary. Maybe we should flip him for another rental as well. Weak argument, to say the least. You can never have too much pitching.
Padres have too much. Prospect was ranked 13th by BA but I have a hard time putting in top 20 and ahead of Allen, Paddock, Nix and others. Nice back end arm for Phillies but he was buried on depth and the known name pitcher I’d want them to trade. Good job Preller.
Preller acquired him for Benoit, De Los Santos is a “Preller pick”.
Why?
Freddy Galvis is cheap good defender but will not hit in San Diego.
Possibly making room for Machado????
Making room for Headley
making room for crawford.
How funny would it be if its Espinoza. The Red Sox would have definitely won the Pomeranz trade if thats the case
Best short stop in baseball? He ain’t even the top 3 in the nl west
That career 3 war really stands out
Smh
Y’all over value this guy
He’s excellent in the clubhouse and leaves everything on the field. You’ll see it when you watch him play. Some intangibles cannot be measured.
Yeah but WAR!!! How annoying is it when “fans” describe players only by using WAR.. lowtalker1 only talks about WAR. There’s so much more to this game than WAR which isn’t even a real state but it gives these people that have no knowledge of the game a voice
Let’s ignore WAR, then. How about batting average? OBP? Slugging? An OPS+ of 83 means he’s not a good hitter, period. So he slots in the 7th or 8th spot for one year in exchange for a very young pitcher who’s showing good stuff?
Phillies won this in a landslide, even if you don’t take into account the fact that Galvis was expendable.
I live in the state of WAR. Sounds like the title to a metal song. But yeah, anyway, Galvis can’t hit at all but the glove seems legit. A puzzling move for a bad team to make but I suppose he’s at least durable.
Phillies fan? Because Espinoza for Galvis is a ridiculous thought.
Come on seriously?!! That’s all one of the top 3 best SS gloves in MLB is worth? Just ONE minor league pitcher? Klentek get it together! Looks like instead of presents under the tree we all end up with coal in our stocking once again
Better be a top 10 prospect or he’s going to be run out of philly like Amaro
No it won’t even be in the top 30
#13
santos ain’t no thing
Probably got another trade in the works 41/40
Except almost every major league shortstop can field. Slick gloves at short who can’t hit aren’t even vaguely rare.
You guys are out of your minds if you think it’s going to be anything other than a fringe prospect.
Can’t hit? WTH are you talking about? Dudes got some pop!! This is why I hate talking to fans of other teams who don’t know anything about players outside their organization
So a lifetime .245 BA and .287 OBP % don’t mean much to you then apparently
So some pop defines hitting now? There is more to hitting than just HR’s.
I’m a Phillies fan and Mooshlanx is right. Galvis is a good fielder, not top 3 in MLB, and a below average hitter. Galvis hit 12 home runs last, actually below average for an MLB SS, but his other 651 plate appearances left a lot to be desired. If Matt Klentak gets anyone with a modicrum of value for him, it’s a coup.
His horrible OBP and below-700 OPS leave something to be desired. There’s more to hitting than just home runs.
I can’t believe the Padres are really going after this guy instead of signing a veteran free agent.
As a Phillies fan I even chocked with the “Dudes got some pop!!”. Is he hiding a can of Pepsi in his pocket? Even discarding his first 3 partial seasons he has a 253/295/375 slash. A .375 slg% now qualifies as pop?
He has always been fun in the field but much of his career at the plate has been as much fun as removing ones own kidney….with a shrimp fork.
Larry Bowa, Larry Andersen, and the press spent all last season raving about Galvis’ defense. Then J.P. Crawford came up and showed so much range that it looked like Galvis was standing still. Galvis has a top 10 glove but Crawford has a much higher ceiling.
You watch and root for the same team and Your telling me that Galvis doesn’t have any pop? Stop it! I never said he was a power hitter…in fact I never said he was good offensively! He’s fun to watch defensively, AND he has a lot of Rollins leadership qualities. I’m okay with the return. He’ll be a good pickup for San Diego. One things for sure he’s an upgrade over solatre
Look man, I watch the Phils almost every game. Freddy sells out his swing to hit some HRs but he can’t get on base. I really like him on the field and in the clubhouse, but to get a decent pitching prospect for him is not a bad move.
Solarte better at 2nd/3rd at least Padres are trying to put decent team together and SS has been problem for Padres for last few years no one gunna hit for power here at petco
Why would you try to “put a decent team together” at the expense of the long-term outlook when you aren’t going to contend anyway?
Well stated
You can argue that if he has 3 years of control but he doesn’t
What do you want him to get for a glove first short stop who’s career best obp wasn’t even above .310 in a bad middle infield market?
Freddy isn’t good enough to warrant a strong return. I say this as a Phillies fan. Ill take a young arm with some upside to move him out of Crawford’s way.
I’ll bite….who are your top 3 defenders at SS?
probably Brandon Crawford, Simmons, J.J Hardy, maybe a Liriano, Tulo when he’s healthy
I would say he is in top 20 for short stops
There are so many good ones out there
Seattle, az, sf, angels, Yankees, Tampa, bosox, Houston for example
there is no demand for shorstops, who is a FA after one year and his OBP is terrible…its not like san diego is contending this year so they arent giving up anything and nobody else would. like around mlb and see who needs a SS bad enough to give up anything for 1 year of freddy.
Let’s hope it’s a LHP. I’d like to see Lucchesi come back.
Unlikely, going with Jose Castillo or Walker Lockett.
If this happens thanks for all the hard work Freddy. Loved watching you in Philly!
he did grow on me over the years, and was a guy who seemed to be bothered by losing, which i liked.
Gold glove. Has some pop. Low OBP, but has everything you’d want. A very good addition to the Pads. Only hope a quality young arm coming back to the Phillies.
Don’t hold your breath. It’s probably not going to be much considering his numbers and the fact the he only has one year left before free agency.
What gold glove?
Lol
Y’all don’t even know your former players
Glad to see Klentak cleaning the excess from the roster. It will be good to see what Crawford can do instead of the known mediocrity of Galvis.
This.
Offensively, I’m just hoping Crawford can provide an on-base percentage of .325-.340 even if he doesn’t hit well.. I don’t think much more can be expected yet.
Obviously he’s very valuable defensively.
He won’t, esp in that ballpark.
Your bar is really low. Crawford exceeded that this year after his call up and hit poorly.
Sweet. Posted it 2x.
How will this impact Cozart’s market, since they were one of the only teams looking for a shortstop. I think, most likely, he’ll have to take a job as a 2B or 3B now.
I think the Angels should sign Cozart to play 3rd base..
He’ll return to the Reds at SS.
Highly doubt he’ll go back to The Reds. They’ve got Gennett, and Peraza.
Cozart back to Reds. Hamilton will be traded. Peraza will float between SS, 2B, & CF like last year. Peraza hasn’t earned the SS spot. Trading Hamilton will free up a little $ for Cozart.
Well this subset of the conversation sure has held up well!
Yep, I sure missed that one. Shouldn’t expect the Reds to do anything to make their roster better. But, the GM touts their nutrional program is the best in MLB, by God!
I dont understand why everyone talks trash about chase headley. Dudes like a career 260-270 hitter with obp around .340 not bad just around league average.
He is a head case
Needed to happen . We have Hernandez , Crawford and Kingery . I loved Galvis but it is time for him to go
he’s a defense shortstop who has shown he can hit for power, not much, but some. Also he’s reliable, he’s hardly on the DL. A perfect trade for the padres, who basically just need someone to hold down the spot for the season.
Be prepared for 6-8 week stretches of agony at the plate.
Aka better than anyone who has played ss for the friars in years.
Over all the padres weren’t too bad with anyone that played the position from an offensive standpoint
The defensive spot though
Yeah, who can forget those great offesive seasons provided by Clint Barmes, Alexei Ramirez and Erick Aybar?
It’s not uncommon for the human brain to shield us from the trauma of memories, but there’s no way that anyone who watched Alexei Ramirez and Erick Aybar soak up at-bats at shortstop over the last two years could type that sentence with a straight face.
I agree, disgruntled, but I’m pretty sure that saavedra didn’t have a straight face – I sure didn’t when I read it !!
6-8 weeks? The baseball season is much longer than that, and Glavis—other than a few moments when he’s hit a home run here or there—has been an offensive disaster his entire career.
He’s a very good defensive player, but not good enough defensively that it outweighs everything else. He doesn’t get on base well, is not a tremendous baserunner, and does not produce big power numbers. He’s a completely expendable piece.
6-8weeks meaning he is agonizingly streaky….just when you think he may have found himself you get 8 weeks of 225/285/335. That is what I meant but stretches of agony at the plate.
It’s funny, somehow multiple analysts from other teams have been under the impression that Galvis has good speed.
What’s with the Padres stockpiling infielders?
Padres don’t even know what they are doing, they are run by idoits. They need to be rebuilding.
Not sure if you read anything past the headline.
“Galvis, who turned 28 last month, is a free agent following the 2018 season but will provide the Padres with a strong defender to serve as stopgap while ballhyhooed prospect Fernando Tatis Jr. “
Do you follow the Padres at all? They have a great young team and a very impressive farm system. Why would they “rebuild”?
I’m not expecting the “minor league pitcher” to be anything special. Maybe someone off of the 40 man roster like Walker Lockett.
It’s puzzling why a team that finished dead last in the league in OBP would go after a guy like this. He might be a decent defender, but I don’t see much of a difference between this and just singing a veteran free agent (besides having to give up a pitcher).
It really comes down to free agents wanting more than a one year deal. The Padres have Tatis Jr. on the verge of making it into the bigs, and they don’t want to block him. Seeing as how they also won’t be contending this year in a very difficult west division, they got a cheap filler that’s a good clubhouse guy and won’t cost anything remotely painful.
True, but considering the market for free agent shortstops, guys like Erick Aybar or Alcides Escobar would probably be more willing to take what they can get.
Most fans here know that they need stops gaps until Tatis is ready. It’s just the way they go about acquiring these stop gaps that is the issue. They gave up a prospect and now have to pay Galvis $7 million when they could have signed someone like Escobar.
The return is Enyel De Los Santos, a better prospect than I would’ve expected.
Yeah, I’d rather have De Los Santos than a below average SS for $7million. I’d rather just throw out Jose Rondon out there, we won’t be competitive with either.
Its De Los Santos….I’m ok with it. Sorta
Santos is the Padres 16th ranked prosepct per mlb.com
you typed 13th wrong
Enyel de los Santos.
#13 prospect. So dumb
I can think of at least a handful of other pitchers in the minors that I am happy it is not, so I am 100% good with this.
No not really
Does seem like a nice prospect to give up…
#13 based on last years mid season rankings. I’m sure he’s a little farther down the list now. Keith Law has him at #21. He will probably end up as a reliever. Never would have a chance to start with Gore, Quantrill, Morejon, Espinoza, Baez, Luchessi, Laurer, Nix, Lamet, Paddack. Still wouldn’t give him up for one year of Galvis at $7mil.
Perdomo is still in there too, and the Padres will likely be supplementing the team with free agent arms or trades this year or next. This guy would likely not have been coming up except for random spot starts, so swap him for a good defensive SS to fill the gap until Tatis gets there, and flip Galvis at the deadline to a team in need of SS help. Makes sense to me.
Padres were terrible at SS last year, so I think Galvis is a definite upgrade. Only seems to be a one year deal anyways, so I’m OK with it. Basically just a place holder until Tatis Jr. is ready.
San Diego had JJ Hardy written all over it. Too high of a prospect IMO
The chances of this guy being any good are slim but slim is better than none..
I really can’t wait to hear Preller’s rationale for this. They’re not competing this year, Galvis isn’t the type of guy you trade for to gain even a slight advantage in extension talks, and while I think de los Santos is probably overrated at #13 on MLB Pipeline, he had a better chance at contributing to the next good Padres club than Galvis does.
Obviously, though, nice get for Philly
Really bad trade, padres got fleeced. How do you give up a pitcher with a solid minor track record for freddy galvis???? Is this real life???? Kinsler only got two prospects in the 20s in the angels farm lmao. Freddy should be worth a couple of old “go friars” tshirts.
De Los Santos is a mediocre prospect, not even top 10 on the Padres. Probably less than a 50-50 chance to hit the Majors. He’s not good enough to be part of a fleecing.
The Padres have one of the deeper farms in the MLB. You’re greatly under valuing De Los Santos.
Galvis is a legit 20/20 candidate who plays solid defense. Santos is “at best” a 4-5 SP. If Galvis has a solid year and Tatis is ready for 2019, he can be re-signed and slide over to 3b. Headley will be flipped for more prospects. Solarte is the super utility unless a good deal is offered for him?
Can you really call him a legit 20/20 candidate when he’s never been a 20/20 guy and if so he will no longer be playing half of his game in a ban box.
Galvis can’t hit at all, but De Los Santos was like their 8th-best starting pitching prospect, marked by Padres prospect-watchers as the 15-th best prospect in the system. Galvis seems durable and he can field the position, so I guess that’s something. It seems like there must have been some Brendan Ryan-type of guy out there they could have gotten for the league minimum. though.
Now time to move Franco!
One more year…
I hope not..Franco’s trade value isn’t good now. I’d rather give him a chance to improve on last year’s numbers. He’s young, the Phillies are rebuilding, and they would be foolish to give up top prospects for one year of Machado.
Exactly, he’s in his 1st of 4 arb years. He’s not going to start getting too expensive yet and even if he does, the Phillies have the cash right now. If someone came and offered something for him, I wouldn’t say no, but I’m not just giving up on a guy like this when he’s so cheap. I don’t have a super amount of faith in him, but he’s a guy you don’t just give up on when he’s this cheap.
He was the padres #13 prospect. Double A but close to major league ready according to mlb.com . Fastball reaches 97..reports suggest he can be a 4 or 5 starter.. A #13 prospect is not bad…look at Klentaks deals over the last yr or two and he has acquired several mid level prospects and still has sanchez, kingery and moniak at the top. Its not a great return but opens up more playing time for crawford and it continues to give them a “deeper” system.
Actually a better return than I expected.
Were the padres that bad and in need at SS?
Yes, but there’s a chance they could flip Galvis at the deadline if someone’s shortstop gets hurt. I doubt they’d get much less than they gave up.
I’d still have held out hope for Khalil Green.
Padres fans will have fun watching Freddy play shortstop. He does things that no stats measure. He plays with style and has fun in the field. Neither the Phils or Padres are going to win much in 2018 so what’s wrong with enjoying watching one of the best do his thing? I’ll miss Freddy in Philly.
I believe he’s a good SS but saying, ” he does a thing that no stats measure”. Does not hold up anywhere. No one looks at style or how fun he looks when they are scouting someone. They look at stats.
See Chase Utley
He breaks legs?
If he’s talking about the level of enjoyment in purely watching him as a fan, then why shouldn’t his mannerisms and flair on the field be something for Padres fans to look forward to?
I don’t think Leemitt was trying to suggest that it somehow makes him a better player — just one that’s more fun to watch.
And, for the record, scouts absolutely do look at the level of personality, competitiveness, etc. that a player shows on the field.
Steve, strictly speaking on grammar, ballyhooed is both misspelled and bombastic given the context. See: Grandiloquence.
See: supercilious
I believe this is an overpay for the Padres. Solid last year but has some relief risk. He was acquired pretty cheaply (Benoit to Seattle) but I think he contributes at the ML level. I wonder what the corresponding move will be. DFA Szczur? I guess FA asking price for Cozart is too high. I think Escobar probably would have been a better fit as a stopgap.
I hope it’sLucchesi
Did you come up with that one all by yourself?
I thought Galvis was trash then I did some research on the guy. He’s really good defensively and he’s not that bad offensively. He’s only 27 and he just turned over his best offensive year. It is looking like he produce more next year. But he is not in team control for multiple years. If you had at least 3 years of team control I would understand why the Phillies would be upset. You got a really good prospect, and he’s a pitcher, a starting pitcher at that. Phillies he might be in your starting rotation! He’s got an above average fastball. He’s in a organization that has developed great players. This is a Yankee fan saying this! lol Seriously pitching will always be more valuable than anything. You can find someone to replace him from free agency. It’s a cheaper cost than trying get a pitcher in the free agent market. I ish the Yankees had this opportunity.
Another bad deal for AJ Preller. First he overpays in terms of money for Chase Headley, and now he overpays in terms of talent; Galvis is Ok-ish, but he gave up talent in exchange for a rental in the middle of a rebuild.
The Padres have so much pitching depth, and have already added to it this offseason. The loss of De Los Santos is minuscule, as he is no longer a top 15 prospect for the org. He likely would have been tested in the bullpen anyways with the other pitchers coming through their system.
A wise human once said: “you can never have too much pitching”. A rental for a decent prospect on a rebuilding franchise is not a good deal. His loss is not negligible.
Bad trade but hey its AJ Preller. That is what he does best
If we were contending, I’d hate this signing but since we are still a couple years away, I’m really ok with it. With our recent addition from the Yankees, the loss of De Los Santos isn’t that bad. Galvez is better than what we have, so it’s better and good.
No brainer trade for the Phils. They will win this trade in the long run.
Clearly, he’s a one year rental for us
Ah, so you admit this trade was a loss for the Padres. Phillies win in the long-term and the short-term is largely irrelevant for both teams.
It probably is a loss for the Padres… unless DLS never develops a 3rd pitch and isn’t more than a mediocre RP. Or if Galvis extends at a team-friendly price to bridge us all the way to a guy like Arias. Those are wishful thinkings, though.
It’s a loss for the Padres even if DLS never develops a third pitch. One year now Galvis is a free agent and the Padres are back in the same spot but without DLS.
Or, the Padres extend him (have first dibs) or flip him a the deadline for an even better prospect
He’s not taking an extension and the only way the “flip him for a better prospect” thing happens is if he has an All Star caliber season and some contender’s shortstop gets injured. Preller biffed it here.
Clearly a bad trade by Preller
The only way the Padres can salvage this is if Galvis plays well enough to be flipped at the deadline for something. I won’t keep my hopes up though.
WHAT THE HELL IS PRELLER THINKING!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!? Why would he trade a halfway decent pitching prospect for a rental!? Might as well have just released De Los Santos.
Now do you understand my dislike for Preller? Could’ve had Cozart without giving up any prospects. But nah, let’s give up someone for way less of a player!
The Angels just paid 3 yr 38mil to Cozart. I like Preller in this deal. If Tatis is truly our short stop of the future, I’d prefer this route.
Agreed. Freddy is also still young and improving. He could have a great year and increase his value. Could even keep him and move him to 3rd. Not saying that happens but it’s a possibility.
I disagree. You can move Cosart to 3B if Tatis Jr. is ready for 2019, or even Tatis could be moved there. He traded for Headley and gave up talent for no good reason.
No. You can’t keep him. He’s gone after this year. And don’t say “They can still re-sign him” because trading for him wasn’t a prerequisite to doing that.
Cosart wasn’t an option. He wanted to win now, as shown by willing to move to 3B. Preller no doubt kicked the tires on Cosart, but couldn’t get a deal done. He went with his next best option and gave up the 8th rated pitcher in our system.
Trade is fair but not the kind of trade you make when you are rebuilding like the Padres are.
I agree. We could have used him in a Yelich trade.
If we flip him at the deadline for a better prospect,then I will say it was a good trade. The Cozart comparison isn’t a fair one as he cost $38 mil, and we probably would have had to pay more to get him. But we’ll be in this position again next year because Tatis won’t be in the roster come start if the season to keep his service time down
The Phillies now have a payroll of around $49 million for 2018, even after adding in Hunter and Neshek. That puts them firmly 30th, with no one else close.
Yeah, Galvis wont be much offensively in that stadium.
Interesting takes here. Sure not a great hitter but we have had worse and a good fielder. I wouldn’t be surprised if we resigned him after the year. Remember Tatis, does commit some errors and had a hard time on D this winter. Tatis just might play third and allow galvis to be a defensive ss. Until other prospects come up Arias, etc. D at SS is important and shouldnt be undervalued. Tatis may need more time as well. Ease him in a bit.
F.P. Santangelo, color commentator for the Nats on MLB network, during a Sept. series against the Phils, said that Freddie Galvis was his pick for NL Gold Glove at SS.,
I’m a Nats fan, but I think Galvis will hit enough, and his D will be a real upgrade for the Pads with their young staff. And with only a year of control, he won’t block Tatis (and possibly could be flipped in July if a contender loses an infielder to injury)
Nice pickup for the Padres.
Nice pick up? He cant hit or get on base but ok.
Better than Aybar, though – And while Cozart would definitely have been a good addition, he would have blocked Tatis. … Plus the Angels are suddenly a strong contender, so would Cozart have really considered San Diego ??
If that’s where the money was then sure
And it doesn’t matter if he is better than Aybar. He won’t be better than Aybar while playing for a contending Padres team.
Galvis has one year of control – Will the Pads be contending in 2018 ??
I’m assuming that the plan is for Tatis to be better than Aybar/Galvis, when the Padres ARE contending.
This is the shortstop that AJ Preller came up with? Haha
Sounds like you have an obsession w Preller. Do you have a crush on him too??
And now Cozart goes to the Angels for 3/38 and changing positions.
AJ Preller could have landed Cozart who preferred to stay at SS but he could not pull it off.
If I’m Cozart, I’d jump on the Angels money train, as well. Anaheim has a reason to spend and win now that they have Ohtani. Cozart would’ve been at the front of a rebuild, so it didn’t make as much sense for him.
You know this? If you were Cosart, would you rather take the same money (or even a bit less) and play for a team that will likely be in the hunt next year and move over to 3B, or would you take just a touch more and stay at SS for a team that is not going to be in contention for a few years? I think I’d go Angels too.
A couple seasons ago the Padres acquired Alexei Ramirez to play shortstop for them. His season before joining the Padres was, offensively and defensively, basically the exact same season Galvis just had. Ramirez was, of course, horrible for the Padres, although he was older. But still, maybe a cautionary tale?
Exactly the prospect I wanted in this deal- very pleased. Thank you Freddy- good luck!
Didn’t someone else have some minor league shortstop who could really field but couldn’t hit that wasn’t protected from Rule 5 that Preller could have taken? That would have largely had the same effect as trading for Galvis but wouldn’t have cost us DLS.
Seems like Preller thinks he has a shot at the WC game… maybe? A few other rebuilding teams in recent memory have peaked early (Astros, Cubs, Yankees). It’s possible the Pads are just doing their due diligence here by making sure they at least have some fighting chance if things go better than expected.
On the other hand, they could probably have traded for a better SS at the deadline if things were really going that well. So who knows exactly what they were thinking here. As it stands, it doesn’t make a ton of sense for a rebuilding team to give up a solid pitching prospect for a one year rental.
they did not have a shortstop on their baseball team
Still don’t. At least not when it matters.
bethancourt cleared waivers
And you have autism
shut up brian
Or what?
DLS is a better pitching prospect than Kluber was when the Padres traded him, so you’ll have to forgive me if I don’t care that DLS “just isn’t very good.” You don’t trade prospects if you aren’t getting something that will help you more in return. Galvis won’t help the Padres more.
Even though I agree with your statement in general, Kluber is the exception, not the rule.
I know! What I’m saying is I’ll take the chance that it happens with DLS over a few extra meaningless wins in 2018.