Dec. 11: The Blue Jays are also interested in Bruce, Jon Heyman of FanRag tweets. Of course, the Jays nearly traded for Bruce when he was a member of the Reds in February 2016, and they went on to show interest in him again last offseason.
While the Mariners are reportedly in on Bruce, Greg Johns of MLB.com doesn’t see a match in the wake of their acquisition of newly minted outfielder Dee Gordon (Twitter link). Ryan Divish of the Seattle Times is similarly skeptical, noting that the Mariners would have to trade away a corner outfielder to make it possible. He doesn’t completely rule that out, though, considering GM Jerry Dipoto’s affinity for making deals (via Twitter).
Dec. 1: The Mets are interested in Bruce on a three-year contract, tweets Mike Puma of the New York Post. Bruce is still seeking a five-year deal according to Puma, indicating that despite a stagnant free-agent market, he hasn’t gotten anxious and lowered his early-November asking price (at least in terms of years).
Nov. 30, 6:46pm: Other organizations with some level of interest in Bruce include the Rockies and Mariners, according to Bob Nightengale of USA Today (via Twitter).
It’s not known just how the Rockies view Bruce, but it’s conceivable they’d consider him as a first base target. Colorado was willing to roll the dice on utilizing Ian Desmond at first last year, but ended up using him mostly in the outfield and will likely keep him on the grass in 2017. That leaves first as the team’s most evident need in the field, though perhaps the club could instead view Bruce as a direct replacement for outgoing free agent corner outfielder Carlos Gonzalez.
Seattle evidently has its eye on a lefty outfield bat, as it has also been linked with Jon Jay (who is, of course, otherwise quite a different hitter than is Bruce). The M’s current outfield mix is more proficient in the defensive and baserunning departments, so Bruce could add a different skillset that might allow for greater situational flexibility.
5:28pm: The Mets share mutual interest with free agent slugger Jay Bruce, according to a report from Marc Carig of Newsday. Bruce, of course, opened the 2017 season in New York but was dealt in the middle of the year to the Indians.
It’s far from clear at this point whether the sides match up, but obviously they are plenty familiar after Bruce played 153 games with the Mets between his mid-2016 acquisition and the subsequent trade. Though he struggled initially, Bruce gave the Mets 448 plate appearancs of .256/.321/.520 hitting and 29 home runs in the most recent season — numbers that he largely maintained (.248/.331/.477) upon heading to Cleveland.
The time that Bruce spent with the Indians may actually have helped link him back to the Mets. Carig’s source notes that Bruce has a positive relationship with new Mets skipper Mickey Callaway, who just came over from the Cleveland organization.
It’ll be interesting to see how serious the Mets are about adding a player like Bruce, who only is even under contemplation owing to problems with two youngsters the organization had hoped to rely upon. Outfielder Michael Conforto is recovering from major shoulder surgery while first baseman Dominic Smith is coming off of a poor initial showing in the majors while facing some front office scrutiny for his conditioning. There are some generally positive signs for Conforto. And Smith at least seems to be taking the concerns to heart with a stepped-up effort to trim up, as Mike Puma of the New York Post was among those to report (Twitter links).
Bruce has not spent much time at first, but was used there briefly by the Mets in 2017. Evidently, the team is comfortable with the idea of giving him significant time there. Unlike another rumored possibility, free agent Carlos Santana, Bruce would also provide an option in the corner outfield, where he has spent the bulk of his career.
Of course, what Bruce cannot do is offer any kind of solution to some of the Mets’ other pressing needs. Signing him, naturally, would draw resources that otherwise might be dedicated elsewhere, which is particularly notable given that Bruce is expected to command a long-term contract. (MLBTR predicts he’ll net $39MM over three years, but it’s certainly possible he could garner more.)
Notably, per Carig, the Mets are having some difficulty finding traction with potential second base targets. New York’s middling slate of upper-level prospects is “a barrier” in dialogue with the Tigers regarding Ian Kinsler, Carig reports, while the Mets have yet to engage in earnest with the Marlins on Dee Gordon.
WalkersDayOff
So they tried really hard to trade him last offseason and during the season because he didn’t really fit on the team. Now they want to bring him back. Sounds like a Mets thing to do
Brixton
They wanted to move him because he was an impending FA. Plus they might have realized that Nimmo isn’t an everyday player, and that you need to have a great offense to have Lagares play everyday because hes basically a free out
bklynny67
Sorry dude but you’re clueless. They didn’t trade him cuz he didn’t fit. They traded him cuz he was an upcoming free agent and they were already out of the NL playoff race.
WalkersDayOff
They tried to trade him last offseason and any team that would have taken on the contract would have got him. Dont believe it look it up
Brixton
And at the time they had Granderson, now they dont
Joe Kerr
But they still have Cespedes and Conforto to play the corners, they would be far better off signing a C.F., and maybe only a platoon split to go with Lagares.
padam
You can also look up the fact that they liked his clubhouse demeanor – he was well liked. Why else do you think they’d entertain the idea of bringing him back.
sviscusi
Both of whom had injury problems, and there’s 1st base and, like last year, if Conforto is healthy it’s not inconceivable that he could spend time in center.
AndThisGameBelongsToMySanDiegoPadres
They traded him because he was a free agent at the end of the season and they weren’t contending so virtually any prospect would have been worth more to them than his last 2 months of control. I honestly wanna see them sign him just because it would destroy all the commenters who claim that it is impossible to sign a player who you traded away.
jdgoat
That’s not entirely true. They tried trading him last offseason because they had a glut of outfielders and he kind of struggled down the stretch for him. They traded him this past season because he was a rental and they were far out of it
Logjammer D"Baggagecling
No doubt a met thing. Look at David Wright he hasn’t played since 2015. They still think he’s gonna return. Sad really. He’s done just buy him out.
Bill
They’re not going to buy him out when the insurance pays 75% of his contract when he’s on the DL. Not to mention he’s still trying to come back and while most think he won’t make it, it would be wrong to treat him that way.
jdgoat
That makes no sense. What do they gain by releasing him if the luxury tax isn’t a problem?
377194
I doubt that the Mets truly believe that Wright will ever return.
astros_fan_84
Even Grant Hill thinks it’s hopeless
sviscusi
What have they done to show you that they think he’s gonna return? Last year they had Reyes, Flores, Cabrera, and Rivera to potentially fill those at bats. This year they’re looking at adding someone else to play second so that the people they have to play second can now shift over and cover 3rd.
mlb fan
@Walkers…..Trading Jay Bruce last year made perfect sense for the Mets because he was in the last year of his contract and the Mets were not contending and any money saved by trading Bruce could be used elsewhere……..
Jay Bruce is a pretty good all around, steady, baseball player who puts up his numbers year after year, and it really had little to do with Jay Bruce “not fitting” on the Mets……it is just the standard business side of baseball…….
WalkersDayOff
The Mets were 100 percent planning on contention before the season. Yet they still tried to trade him. They weren’t even able to trade him until the August because of how much he was owed. Bottom line is they did not want to pay him 13 million yet they want to make a long term commitment for far more than that now. Seems strange
Birch
Jay Bruce was part of an OF that contained Cespedes, Lagares, Nimmo, Conforto, and Granderson. There were 4 left-handed bats available in the OF and a single right-handed bat due to the injury to Lagares. Granderson’s contract was even more expensive, making it harder to move. There was no plan to trade Granderson because he was a well-established veteran of the club and one of the leaders in the clubhouse. The Mets needed to find Conforto playing time and they ended up having to use him in CF because they were stuck with Bruce. They expected Nimmo to slot in and platoon with Lagares in CF and serve as a backup corner OF along with Granderson. It made tons of sense for the Mets to try and shed $13M and attempt to gain something back for Bruce prior to the start of the year. You make it sound like they hated him and had no reason behind putting him on the block. Not true at all.
agentx
WalkersDayOff, you’re correct regarding NYM desperately trying to trade Bruce last offseason because he did not fit in. They tried to trade him during the season because of his impending free agency but didn’t until early August because no one offered the Mets anything worthwhile until after the trade deadline.
Notably different circumstances…
Vince67
And the Yankees didn’t do that with chapman?
steelerbravenation
They need a CF not another corner OF I don’t believe this team all that pitching and so many guys playing out of position or are just bad defensively all together. Sign Cain & trade for Kinsler then sign Minor & Shaw
padam
I agree with you, in addition to the fact you’re a Steeler fan (I assume). However, Bruce could be signed to play 1B and not the OF. But the fact he can play the OF gives them flexibility to move players around in game and he’s a LH bat for a heavy RH lineup at this time.
iamhector24
Jesus no. Cain is too old to want the years he wants. Kinsler is over the hill. If we are just going to suck I’d rather us not make moves that are going to cripple us later. I don’t want either of those players. I’d much rather have Bruce who was our best offensive player last year since Dom Smith likes cheesecake too much and Conforto will start the year on the DL. And when was the last time YO played a full season? Bruce would have plenty of spots to play and power stays a lot longer than speed.
Bobbig
Jay Bruce is a perfect fit, played in NY, shows he can hit in the clutch like he did from Cleveland, he produces..period..sure some settling in last at first but he adapted quite nicely and was the Mets offense last year..plus he can play first base adequately
Joe Kerr
This makes no sense to me. They were desperate to get rid of him for most if the time he was there. So many more OF can be had cheaper than he will be and more productive. Whoever signs him will regret it
WalkersDayOff
Bingo. Mets were trying to deal him all season
mlb fan
@Joe…..the Mets were not “desperate” to get rid of Jay Bruce last year. He is a good all around player and the Mets just did not want to PAY him, since they were were OUT of CONTENTION and his contract was running out so why not get something for him?
Joe Kerr
@MLB fan…I remember hearing rumors of them wanting to dump him in 2016 and after the season but couldn’t find any takers. that year he had a 685 OPS with the Mets. As far as getting something for him when they were out of contention last year, yes absolutely that makes sense. He undoubtedly had a good year in 2017, I still just feel that whoever signs him will regret it and he isn’t a fit with the Mets. Just my opinion.
mlb fan
@Joe…..that first half year with the Mets after they acquired him at the trade deadline he struggled a bit and then NY soured a little on him but they do that to you in NY if you do not get a hit every game…..
NY is a very tough crowd, but Bruce totally rebuilt his value with a very strong campaign for both the Mets and the Indians in 2017….I think that “trade rumors” TOTALLY nailed it when they predicted a 3 yr/39 million dollar deal for him, because I also think that is his exact market……….
I think that the Mets should consider both Jay Bruce and CF Jerrod Dyson so they can keep conforto and Cespedes out of CF… Brandon Nimmo?……I suspect he is a replacement level corner OF at best…….
padam
For 3/39, I think he’s worth it.
sviscusi
Situations change. Last year they thought that whoever they traded him for plus the money saved plus the production that would come from his replacement would be move valuable than just keeping him. That was because they had depth. With Granderson gone and Conforto potentially out early they now have a different situation. It would be like wondering why they signed Aoki only to release him 2 months later.
24TheKid
I would be ok with this for the Mariners, but would rather see them spend on the rotation.
mlb fan
@24thekid….the Mariners would be better off focusing on Yu Darvish/Ohtani for their starting rotation and spending on a more affordable CF, like their own free agent, Jerrod Dyson…….
Assuming they sign either Ohtani or Yu Darvish or both, they could even offer DH Nelson Cruz, in last yr of his deal, to Boston (which sorely needs a big bat/DH) for CF Jackie Bradley Jr(2 yrs before free agency) and in this scenario the Mariners would not need Jerrod Dyson because they would have Jackie Bradle Jr. to play CF…..
Stevil
There’s zero chance of Cruz getting dealt this offseason. If anything, an extension is more likely.
Crasnick tweeted on a deal with Jon Jay picking up steam. There should be enough dough for Darish and Jay. Bruce would be harder to conceive.
Ohtani would likely platoon DH and RF with Cruz, Gamel and Heredia getting the leftovers.
daruba
He seems like the perfect typical candidate to bomb for four years on the Mariners
muskie73
Nelson Cruz has posted 12.8 fWAR, valued at $102.4 million, in the first three years of his four-year, $58 million contract with Seattle.
mlb fan
@daruba…..Bruce is a decent defensive RF but a lot of those amazing plays that Ben Gamel made in RF, when he replaced the injured Mitch Hanniger last yr, will end up being doubles and triples with Jay Bruce playing Safeco’s challenging RF, and nothing against Jay Bruce by saying that it is just that he will never be as good as defensively as the OF the M’s had last yr of Hanniger, Gamel and Dyson(free agent)…….
I think the Mariners should acquire more Starting pitching..(Darvish/Ohtani) and then stick with their philosophy of defense first in the outfield…
If they can manage to sign either Ohtani or Darvish or both then they can consider trading Nelson Cruz(last yr of contract) to the Boston Red Sox(who badly need a big bat) for CF Jackie Bradley Jr.(2 yrs before free agency), essentially trading Cruz for improved pitching and defense…
ayrbhoy
I think the Mariners will sign a stud SP, Dipoto recently said he’s committed to doing whatever it takes to sign Ohtani. I also think they’ll extend Cruz for two more yrs- they are a much different team when Cruz is out of the lineup. As much as I’d love to see them sign a Cain or Jay Bruce I feel we will sign an OF who is looking to bounce back from a poor 2017 season. They’ll need to save $ if they sign a SP and ink Cruz.
Stevil
Cain is a RHH. They’ll likely get a lefty. Jon Jay makes a lot of sense.
Dipoto also suggested they could splurge a little after the Healy deal. Would be interesting if they landed Darvish.
MHanny17
Please no
justin-turner overdrive
Of all the teams that could use Jay Bruce, the Mets, Rockies and Mariners are probably the worst fits, lol
mlb fan
I cannot see the Mariners or the Rockies either but I do think that the Mets could still use Jay Bruce …….they did not trade him because he is a bad player, but because they fell out of contention and did not want to pay a highly paid player when they were going no where….
Also, the Mets should consider signing CF Jerrod Dyson to a 2 yr contract so they can have an actual CF that can help a team, unlike Juan Lagares….. Cespedes will pull a hammy just by jogging to CF and either Conforto or Brandon Nimmo will never be everyday CFs……
sviscusi
There’s not a whole lot of difference between Dyson and Lagares. Unless he’s dirt cheap it makes more sense to use a Nimmo/Lagares platoon or a Lagares/Conforto+RF acquisition lineup. rather than spending money for esentially a left handed hitting Lagares.
mlb fan
@sviscusi……Lagares has never been the same player since he won a gold glove a few yrs ago and seemingly, he is always injured.
Brandon Nimmo is not really a major league caliber player, in my opinion, and on a good team I do not think that he could accumulate 200 ABs in a season unless the OF was RACKED by injury….
Jerrod Dyson’s last 3 yrs combined WAR = 5.3 and Juan Lagares last 3 yrs combined WAR = 1.4
stymeedone
Bruce would be a bad fit for the Mariners as an OF, but Mr DiPoto thinks he will be able to pitch out of the bullpen, and sub as a SS, because he probably played those positions in high school.
ck420
Please no Mariners, would rather get Cain
mlb fan
@ck420….Mariners should just resign CF Jerrod Dyson to a 2 year contract rather than sign Lorenzo Cain to the 5 yr/80 million+ contract he will likely command…….Cain will be 32 in April and you will likely be moving him to a corner OF within 2 yrs so why not just resign the MUCH cheaper Dyson?
CompanyAssassin
I highly doubt Cain will move to a corner in 2 years, even given his age. He’s been a good defender his whole career. Plus his speed hasn’t taken a hit, so there’s even less reason to believe that he’d suddenly become a bad defender.
mlb fan
@company..I am just generalizing based on the age of players, true…..
Pittsburgh moved MVP Andrew McCutcheon to a corner OF position a couple years back, not because he became a “bad defender” but also to keep him on the field and more protected from injury as well…….and I totally agree that lorenzo cain has been a superior defender his entire career but history suggests his age will have him in a corner OF spot before too long, if for no other reason but to protect his contract’s value…..
Joe Kerr
Nope, that was last season they moved him and it was because he wasn’t very good in CF, they moved Marte there until he was suspended for PED’s. Once the suspension started they moved Cutch back to CF
mlb fan
@Joe Kerr…..I am very aware of the chronology of the Andrew McCutcheon move to LF and then back again to CF, but my main point is outfielders in their mid 30’s are usually moved to a corner OF spot due to a decline in speed and also to protect them from injury(Yoenis Cespedes)……..it does not mean that they are “bad defenders”…..
mlb fan
@company…..so, you basically think that Lorenzo Cain is the ONE MAN who BEATS father time?……..Father Time is UNDEFEATED by the way….
therealryan
They absolutely moved McCutchen because he was a bad defender in CF and they were probably at least 3 years too late in that decision.
mlb fan
@therealryan…..another baseball know it all, sabermetrics probably, who knows MLB because he can spell W.A.R, right and has been watching for six months now, right?
muskie73
Seattle should just buy low on former Mariner center fielder Leonys Martin, who is one year removed from a 2.2 fWAR season in an 8.5 fWAR career. Outfield defense is more important to the Mariners than additional firepower in a lineup that includes Nelson Cruz, Robinson Cano, Kyle Seager, Mike Zunino, Mitch Haniger, Jean Segura, Ben Gamel and Ryon Healy.
mlb fan
@Muskie…..I totally agree that Seattle should stick with prioritizing defense in the OF over offense……Leonys Martin can play the CF defense in Safeco and should be fairly easy to acquire since he has struggled offensively the last couple of yrs….
sgtpain20
I agree totally. That’s why I don’t think Seattle should be in the Ohtani sweepstakes at all. The only reason I see that working is they can get Ohtani cheap for the next few years but they really don’t have a position to offer him without weakening the defense in the outfield.
stymeedone
You don’t need Cain. You have Dee Gordon, outfielder extraordinaire.
CompanyAssassin
But why the Mariners is my question.
old ranger
Mariners because Dipoto has s there
Stevil
Because they need a LHH for the outfield? I doubt there’s much more to it than that, though. Bruce would likely cost too much for Seattle.
CompanyAssassin
I knew they needed OF help just I thought they preferred a more defensively sound player, and one that played CF.
Marc Downs
Simple he will move Haniger to CF.
mlb fan
@Marc…..Hanniger, if he can remain healthy, looks like a possible gold glove caliber corner outfielder who could one day hit 30 home runs and maybe steal 15-20 bases…….But, he cannot play CF on the level that Jerrod Dyson or Jackie Bradley Jr can and putting Hanniger in CF everyday is just asking him to sustain more injury, in an already injury prone start to his MLB career….
Marc Downs
I agree, but they put him there at the end of the season.
mlb fan
@Marc….if you will notice that towards seasons end that Heredia actually played more in CF, than Hanniger did…..once Heredia returns from shoulder surgery he profiles more as a true CF than either Hanniger or Gamel in my opinion…..
Stevil
You must not have seen him in CF in the minors or Arizona. He’s well poised for CF in 2018.
vtadave
Not many people play CF at the level of those two. Haniger would be just fine there.
mlb fan
@Vtadave…..if you watch a lot of Mariners games like I do, you will see that they NEED someone like a Dyson or a Jackie Bradley Jr. in CF because they are a team of mostly fly ball pitchers who gave up a LOT of homeruns last yr………
Clay Buttholes
Sox sign Bruce and trade JBJ + Sam Travis for Abreu. We would add about 30 Homeruns just like that. But this is only if we don’t get Stanton.
bruinsfan94 2
JBJ for Abreu doesn’t make sense. Would love to pry Abreu away but they may keep him for the rebuild, especially if they get a haul for Garcia. Would like an offer centered around Chavis/Travis and then a 10-20 prospect and a change of scenery guy like Owens or Ball.
mlb1225
I could see why The Rockies would be interested in signing Bruce for a replacement for CarGo, but what about David Dahl? I know he was injured for the 2017 season, but I would think his status would have some impact on whether or not they would pursue Bruce, or not.
aidenr
Mets fan here: WHY?! I like Bruce, but for years they’ve been tinkering with a mediocre defensive outfield in a pitcher’s park. They need a legit center fielder, I.E. Lorenzo Cain, much more than another corner outfielder.
Joe Kerr
I wonder what it would cost the Mets to trade for Billy Hamilton.
vtadave
Reds would target pitching I would imagine. Not sure there’s really a fit there unless the Reds want to take a flier on Matz.
Yankeepatriot
He is terrible lol. Elite speed but that’s it. His speed doesn’t make up for his below replacement level offense and bad stolen base rate
Stevil
Cain is a RHH. They’ll likely get a lefty. Jon Jay makes a lot of sense.
Dipoto also suggested they could splurge a little after the Healy deal. Would be interesting if they landed Darvish.
sgtpain20
When the player can hit both lefties and righties it really doesn’t matter what side of the plate he stands on.
Stevil
It does if that player will command significant money and cost a draft pick. Other than that, lineup balance is still something you strive for if it can be helped.
vinscully16
Bruce is a good fit in Toronto.
Yankeepatriot
This is the type of player where if you wait him out you can get a better deal. Anything more than a 2 year contract for Bruce is a mistake
Realtexan
Me personally it would be a great upgrade for the Rangers to get Bruce. And also if the Astros also could make a run for him. The Rangers and the Astros have the money and prospects to. But it’s not worth a draft pick.
Realtexan
Also the Rangers could make a serious Trade that involves Profor and Choo. Either together or separate. Wouldn’t hurt to trade off Odor to or Andrus
Yankeepatriot
Choo is an albatross
Stevil
The Mariners wouldn’t have to trade a corner outfield, as both Gamel and Heredia have options. But why spend on the outfield when the two aforementioned showed promise and Bishop is about a year away? Far more likely the M’s focus on pitching now.
Realtexan
Yes the Rangers starting pitching and bullpen help. But they also need a catcher and first,second,and a short stop. If they can upgrade all of that then they would be a serious contender this season.
66TheNumberOfTheBest
Haven’t head a peep about CarGo being a free agent until now (and this was only to talk about him being replaced).
If he gets cheap enough, I could see the Pirates (with Hurdle) signing him and trying to sell it as a big acquisition.
I’d take a chance on a change of scenery with his old manager with his swing.
Yankeepatriot
He would be a solid cheap get for a team even without him having Coors
slider32
Bruce played well last year and should get a 4 year deal, that might be a deal breaker for most teams but somebody will step up.
Tigers2384
I would like the headline to read if he signs with Toronto “Bruce just blue himself” or “Blue Jay Bruce”.
dynamite drop in monty
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Ichiro51
I hope the mariners sign some starting pitcher. Either Alex Cobb or Lance Lynn. Or trade for Archer. They have enough offense. With how our SP we’re injured throughout the season, this should be priority. Especially since we lost the Ohtani bid. Jay Bruce will help our offense and you can also move Dee to infield. But SP is need more than Bruce
mlb fan
@ichiro51…..the M’s CLEARLY do not need more offense and had better focus on their very average pitching staff…….I cannot really believe the Mariners thought acquiring Dee Gordon to play CF was a better move than just resigning defensive stud Jerrod Dyson though…….Go Mariners….
24TheKid
Dee Gordon is a good hitter. Jarrod Dyson is not.
minoso9
The Rockies already have a plethora of lefty swinging outfielders. This is the last thing they need, and I doubt Bruce can play 1B. The Rox need bullpen help.
ck420
Jeff Todd where did you hear the mariners are in on Bruce. I think your full of it
metsfan31
Always liked Bruce and he had a good season last year. Not feeling him coming to the Mets again if he wants three years. I just wanna see the Mets get two arms for the pen, lind to help at first and a second baseman not named walker.
mlb fan
@Metsfan…..3 yrs is not a bad deal to acquire Jay Bruce……If the Mets are not willing to go three years I do not think that they will be able to sign him since Bruce’s play the last several yrs has earned him at least a 3 yr contract in my opinion….
bubble
At least the teams are doing something. MLB GMs and the MLB push everyone to watch these meetings, but so many teams not doing anything, hard to keep interest.