The Mets are set to head into the 2018 season with a payroll reduction of roughly $20MM, reports Joel Sherman of the New York Post. Mets GM Sandy Alderson has roughly $10MM remaining to spend on needs up and down the roster, per Sherman — which is reflective of ownership’s confidence in the team’s ability to make a postseason run. Sherman notes that last winter, Fred Wilpon and Saul Katz believed the team to be poised for another postseason run and spent accordingly, but last year’s cavalcade of injuries and underperformance has now curtailed their willingness to spend at such an aggressive level. The Mets could yet find a bargain option or two late in the offseason to continue rounding out the roster, as was the case last February and Jerry Blevins and Fernando Salas were inked to relatively low-cost, one-year deals.
More out of Queens…
- Sherman’s colleague, Mike Puma, writes that Wilpon was “irate” upon learning of the Yankees’ Giancarlo Stanton acquisition. Wilpon frequently gets upset when seeing his crosstown rivals make blockbuster acquisitions, suggesting that business model to be unsustainable (despite the Yankees operating at the top of the payroll chain for decades). Additionally, Puma notes that big-name free agents haven’t been a consideration at any point this offseason and also lists Addison Reed (along with Tommy Hunter and Bryan Shaw) among bullpen options that have been deemed too costly.
- Puma also tweets that the Mets are still interested in a reunion with Jay Bruce, though they haven’t made him an offer to this point. Given the payroll constraints portrayed in the above-linked columns from the Post duo, it’d be difficult to imagine the Mets winning any sort of bidding war for Bruce. MLB.com’s Anthony DiComo wrote yesterday that the Mets’ interest in Bruce would be contingent on his asking price dropping from its current point — a four-year guarantee.
- Ken Rosenthal of The Athletic reports (subscription required and recommended) that one creative means of dealing with their limited resources could be to trade reliever AJ Ramos for a second baseman and then sign another reliever to step into his place. The Record’s Matt Ehalt also hears that the Mets are willing to move Ramos in order to address other needs on the big league roster — second base chief among them. The Mets and Indians “do not have anything brewing” with regard to Jason Kipnis at present, however, and Ehalt also notes that Starlin Castro doesn’t appear to be a target, either (as others have previously reported). Ramos, 31, will be a free agent next year and comes with a projected arbitration salary of $9.2MM, per MLBTR contributor Matt Swartz. In 58 2/3 innings last year, Ramos posted a 3.99 ERA with a hefty 11.1 K/9 rate against a more troublesome 5.2 BB/9 mark.
southbeachbully
Am I wrong to suggest that if the Wilpon’s ran a better organization and produced a better on-field experience then they too would be privy to the same revenue streams as the Yanks? It looks like they have about $80 mil coming off the books. Let’s see how much of that goes back into the team.
EndinStealth
I think they would be bigger spenders if they hadn’t got caught up in the Madoff scheme.
justinept
Correct. The Wilpon’s got caught up in the Maddie scheme, profiting at an exponential rate on every single investment for two decades.
Ya know … I’m not sure I really care about Wilpon’s take on sustainability …
mikeyank55
Come on now, that was a decade ago.
Enough with the Madoff excuse. This guy is not and has never been committed to putting a championship caliber team on the field. He will not put his money where his mouth is.
Businessmen invest resources to bring in talent. Nobody talented will work for him; hence placeholder Sandy who needed an exit strategy job to tuck away a few years before retirement.
No tickets
No tshirts
No SNY
It’s as simple as that to send a message that NY baseball fans won’t tolerate this charade!
padam
I’m not a Wilpon fan, but he spent quite a bit under Minaya and before the Madoff scheme hit him.
Issue is – he’s an owner and it’s a privilege. Doesn’t want to sell – he’s a Brooklyn boy. Just isn’t liquid enough like he was previously to support a demanding city like NY. Would you hand your baby over to someone who can provide better?
Caseys Partner
The Mets are extremely profitable. That’s all the Wilpons care about, making money. They’re psychopathic criminals like Bernie Madoff and they should be rotting in prison with Bernie.
“People” like the Wilpons are human garbage.
Sam.rhodes16
I like how you know basically nothing about the Wilpons outside of what you read somewhere, yet you have the confident audacity to call them human garbage. Wew
Caseys Partner
1) People have done that to me for over two decades and 2) everything I’ve written about the Wilpons and money is true. The Wilpons are looting the NYC market with the full approval of the other 29 MLB Crime Families.
Open up a tab at Baseball-Reference with the franchise history of the Mets. Then open another tab with the Phillies franchise history. Notice how for over 50 years the Mets and Phillies have never competed. If the Mets are headed down, the Phillies are headed toward the top of the division.
That’s not business and it certainly is not sport. That’s felony criminal racketeering. Professional wrestling passed off as sport or fixing the outcome of horse races.
It’s a Sammy Gravano skim operation.
Rubber man
the wilpon’s just want to take your money. been a Met fan since they started. Hurts to see the team run by them!
theruns
They spent under Minaya because they were profiting from their Bernie “investments”. As soon as that fawcet ran dry, so did their ability (or will) to keep up with the Jones’.
They are terrible, terrible owners, among the worst in sports and even worse the son is a total moron who likes to meddle and fancy himself a baseball “executive”. (His rich daddy pulled some strings and got him drafted out of a community college as a “player” lol)
He’s a buffoon. And Fred is now pretty much senile and has zero understanding of modern baseball.
mikeyank55
Hey Runs…you forgot Junior’s greatest accomplishment, Official spokesperson of Hair Club of America. Mutt always brags that the Mets were the second club that he has run.
Caseys Partner
“A former top female executive in the Mets front office has filed a blockbuster lawsuit accusing team co-owner Jeff Wilpon of discriminating against her because she was pregnant without being married.”
How many women has Jeff Wilpon raped? When will the Wilpons be removed?
Sam.rhodes16
No way, ownership has standards for their employees? Same with the kneelers. Get with the program and be a professional. Otherwise hit the bricks hotshot, you are not wanted.
Caseys Partner
How many women have had to kneel in front of Jeff to keep their jobs? Does he care if they’re married?
JKB 2
Oh boo hoo. Madoff scheme
So sell the team!!
metsmosloyal23
Exactly PLEASE SELL THE METS
mikeyank55
Me. Met, Joel Sherman reports that there is a fan that is MIA the past week or so.
Sherman commented, “It appears that metseventually is nowhere to be found. Mets fans, myself included are once again frustrated and depressed that the Wilpon’s didn’t put cash on the line to fill the wholes around the diamond. I mean it’s like a piece of Swiss cheese. Eventually, a stubborn supporter has not posted at the height of Mets posts this week where the team was continually criticized.
Please report any sightings to the Flushing police department”.
kingjenrry
Spot on. As a Mets fan, I’m not even asking for a $200 million payroll or anything – just a couple of pieces to round out the roster by reinvesting the salaries we moved at the deadline. And instead, it looks like we’re in for a $20 million payroll cut 2 off-seasons after making the World Series. $160 million would be understandable; $135mm just isn’t.
metsmosloyal23
Smh yes this is a joke as in disgrace
DXC
Madoff was a convenient excuse, but the reality is it has nothing to do with the Wilpon’s spending or lack of it. Their actual payouts will net at less than 35 mm and its over 10 years. Wilpon’s spending on the team has been going on since 1991 when he assumed operational control. It’s not just the player payroll – it’s all levels.
Wilpon (like Donald Sterling) bought the team as a (buy and hold) family generational wealth asset. His business background in owning and stripping $$$ from class C buildings isn’t a good model for operating a major sports franchise. But its all he knows. His focus will always be the expense line and he won’t budget (because that would be a concession to routine spending vs his approving every penny spent)..
limjaheytrailerparksupervisor
Wilpons are a joke.
Caseys Partner
A joke?
So Wall Street bloodsuckers are a joke? Sending American manufacturing jobs to China and other third world places sending 95% of the American people into a 40+ years long downward economic spiral with no end in sight is a joke?
I don’t see anything funny about Fred Wilpon and his abusive son Jeff (what happened to that woman accuser and the law suit?).
xabial
They are a joke, CP.
Mets’ expiring contracts coming off the books: Walker $17.2M, Bruce $13M, Granderson $15M, Reed $7.75M, Duda $7.25M — were all traded for salary relief mid-season.
In the case of Bruce’s $4M, Reed’s $2.6M and Duda’s $2.6M— their remaining 2017 salaries’ was fully absorbed by the acquiring teams.
In total Wilpons saved $10M+ on $50M+ expiring contracts already coming off the the books.
The Granderson trade saved $1.75M out of 3.5M, Walker trade saved $3M out of 4.7M.
Mets own 65% of SNY, and are getting paid $400M over 20 years for Citi Field naming rights.
They have Anthony Swarzak to show up for it.
DXC
Also, most of Wright’s salary was paid by insurance. Even 155 mm, is a mid-market payroll. For most of the years prior, the Mets have had a small market payroll.
metsmosloyal23
So all those moves last season and freaking Swarzek to show… SELL THE DAMN TEAM TO TRUMP
bad boygannon
mets a j ramos and Matt Harvey cubs Ben zobrist and minor leaguer???? anybody??
wrigleywannabe
The CUbs would do that in a second. The MEts? No. I believe Zo has a no trade deal too. Ramos is worth more than that.
kcusgnikcufsregdod
Lolwut
beyou02215
Not even close for the Mets.
costergaard2
Everybody loves Zobrist, but he’s 40, his best days on the field are behind him…
mikeyank55
If the Mets can get him for under 500,000 they will be happy to have him
Johnny
If the Marlins are worth $1.2 billion, how much are the Mets worth on the open market? The Wilpons and their excuses about the need to cut payroll to make ends meet are just ridiculous.
thecrown24
The Mets are valued at a little over 2 billion. Fourth or Fifth most in all of baseball.
GaryWarriorsRedSoxx
Ya, but they’re the Mets.
Caseys Partner
It’s not the Mets, it’s the Mets and the other 29 Crime Families that own MLB.
” it’d be difficult to imagine the Mets winning any sort of bidding war for”
Yes, and that’s how the MLB Crime Families want it. No bidding wars. That’s why Jeter was sold the Marlins instead of the Cuban billionaire. That’s why Trump was met with the sound of crickets when he said in the New York Times he would like to buy the Mets from the Wilpons. That’s why Mark Cuban’s money is no good with the MLB Crime Families.
No bidding wars. Just ever bigger profits for the MLB Crime Families.
Shawn Rojas
Your so dramatic lol
Sam.rhodes16
I wish we had some way to connect the dots between these Crime Families and how most of them are linked.
bastros88
omg the have about 10 million left to spend, what a shame. mets fans deserve better. The mets organization is ran like a bunch of people who hate their job and would rather be somewhere else, or just random people they found on the street with no baseball experience
dynamite drop in monty
I like chicken wings
dbacksrs
That’s the most intelligent thing that you’ve said here all week.
padam
Small market approach doesn’t work in NY. Time for Wilpon to sell.
Caseys Partner
Trump offered to buy. The Crime Families of MLB saw another George Steinbrenner so Trump had to settle for a run at the White House instead.
majorflaw
“as was the case last February and Jerry Blevins and Fernando Salas were inked”
I’m thinking that first “and” should be a “when” or something similar.
pustule bosey
Dear Mets, please sign Bruce so the giants don’t
matthew102402
But they have 10 million. So. Good luck with that.
mikeyank55
Sorry Wolf. If you want to see Bruce play this summer you will need to move where you left your heart!
pustule bosey
I don’t ‘dislike’ watching him play but he is a bad fit for the giants
WalkersDayOff
Fred Wilpon with that small market mentality in NYC
tank62
The Coupons need to sell
Chasssooo
The only way Wilson sells is if people boycott the games and don’t buy any tickets and stop watching on TV so ratings go down. That’s what the Dodger fans did when Frank McCourt owned the team.
Caseys Partner
You need to start and strongly support a boycott of the Mets advertisers, and everyone write a letter to their cableTV suppliers CEO demanding that SNY be an à la carte service that they do not want to pay for.
As long as the Crime Families of MLB are bringing in the big bucks this Mets situation will never change.
Shawn Rojas
Lol start a rally bro
Blake Camden
What is a joke is Cespedes at 29 million. Shouldn’t have signed him when it was obvious the leg was bad.
thecrown24
The dude earned the contract and as a mets fan it was imperative to sign him. Seeing him go to the nationals would have been even more of a slap in the face after they dropped the ball on Murphy. I can see your point 100 percent he needs to stay healthy. This year not so much, but his production and value for the games he’s played his numbers are there and will be there over a course of a full season.
mikeyank55
He earned his contract because Mutt and Jeff blinked and panicked into over paying
Shawn Rojas
He earned it. Numbers don’t lie.
mikeyank55
DL stats don’t lie. He’s not worth the money period. Had the Mets been more patient he would have signed for less. He is NOT a $29 million dollar player.
And the Mets double downed their mistake and didn’t manage him from the get go.
How you mets fans will ask?
Let’s see? The guy pulls muscles all the time. Let’s start with a toughy.
Drink water. Ok
Shawn Rojas
You can’t fault a man for injuries. He led us to the world series. How quickly we forget lol worth every penny.
mikeyank55
Actually he didn’t lead to the World Series. The 2nd baseman that they didn’t re-sign Murphy did . Almost single handedly.
lesterdnightfly
His leg is okay for a daily round or two of golf, even during the season.
Chasssooo
I’m sure Cespedes isn’t too happy these days. He wishes he went to the Nationals.
mikeyank55
They wouldn’t have paid him what the Wilpon’s did. Peer pressure.
DXC
You’re using Wilpon logic (only spend when someone is worth it and there is no risk, i.e., never spend). No such thing as a risk FA free signing. In fact, you have to figure more than half of your long term FA deals will be poor deals overall, and almost all will look poor at some point during the contract. Wilponism hurt the Mets with Cespedes only in that they should have signed him to the 5 year/120 mm contract he wanted after 2015, and not done that convoluted deal for 1 year effectively. Even so, they didn’t overpay for Cespedes and he’s an almost unique athlete still in his prime and can make the contract look good again after next season. The problem is the Mets don’t have enough “bad” contracts like that so they have to pray their one works out every year.
Baseball has a 3 tier salary system that’s structured such that FAs are supposed to be overpaid and not worth it, arbitration players are supposed to be paid to par, and pre-arbitration players are supposed to be underpaid. A smart organization uses all three sources to field a team, yes, it’s smart to grossly overpay for a player if he’s the best alternative to fill a need requisite to winning. Organizations that obsess over a guy with a big FA contract getting hurt or under performing are loser organizations. Nobody, in baseball history, has signed and had on their books more horrific FA deals than the Yankees, yet they generally win. The NL teams with the worst FA contracts on their books over the past 8-10 years are the Giants and Dodgers, yet the Giants have won 3 world titles in that period and the Dodgers have been winning big for most of that period. For the last 3 years, it’s likely the Cubs with the one two punch of Heyward and Zobrist (yet, another team with a WS title).
Blake Camden
It’s fake news about Wilpon. The media invents stories desperately now.
dynamite drop in monty
No they don’t.
ralphrc
OK Fred.
Tyler 20
or hes cheap…and its the truth?
Blake Camden
Just sign Reed and Reyes and call it a day. There’s no need for a 2b, 1b, or 3b. There’s no major upgrade.
thecrown24
Open the Checkbook or Sell the team Wilpigs!!! These clowns will be making money year after year once the new Islanders Stadium is built in Belmont. No more excuses!!!
JohnChasse
A modest proposal: Sign Ben Revere and let him play for a full season.
steelerbravenation
If the Mets can’t afford Lorenzo Cain then their next best option is Dyson for CF on the cheap to improve the defense in the OF.
gocincy
Or Billy Hamilton.
lucienbel
I love the part about Wilpon getting upset about The Yankees and saying they’re unsustainable. Not only does it make him sound like a baby, but he’s ignoring decades of what the Yankees accomplish when doing this sort of thing. And I’m a Red Sox fan. I see why Mets fans don’t like Wilpon.
Chasssooo
Wilson is pissed at the Yankees because they make him look like cheap person that he is.
mike156
MLB is not going to suggest to the Mets owners that they sell. MLB is a billionaire’s boys club, and, occasionally, one of the lads has some temporary difficulties. Cut back a little bit on your staff, see what’s available from the public trough, raise your fees when the unwashed locals come by to see the estate and grounds. These are transitory setbacks, mere inconveniences.
driftcat28 2
Wilpon is a clown. There’s no reason why the mets payroll shouldn’t be in the top 5. He’s a bad and cheap owner. Until he sells, the mets will remain Middle of the pack
Caseys Partner
John Wayne Gacy was a clown sometimes. Then the bodies were discovered in his house.
thecrown24
Lmaooo
ms3b29
Mets should definitely be in on Adrian Gonzalez!! Bring back Reyes, sign a backup CO who can also play a little 1B, and 1 more arm, maybe even colon for the pen.
Kslaw
It wouldn’t be fair to the AL if the NL didn’t have its own version of the O’s.
Smokey2
The Mets are one of the worst run teams in the mlb
Caseys Partner
That’s not the way the other MLB Crime Families see it. They see big $$$ profits and they pat Fred on the back at the owners meetings.
mikeyank55
Hey Smokey, your prediction is too modest. More accurately described as The Mets are the worst run team in MLB and one of the worst run professional sports’ franchises.
jakec77
I’m going to go a different way on this- if the Wilpons are cutting payroll because they don’t think the team is a contender, then shouldn’t they rebuild? Trade off everyone other than Syndergaard, Rosario, Conforto, and Smith. Degrom would generate a big return, the rest of the roster not so much but still.
Right now, it appears the plan is to try to win 85 games for a couple of years and then rebuild.
To be clear, I would rather see the Mets make a push to contend this year (although I understand why they wouldn’t want to tie up a bunch of long term contracts) and reassess next off season. But if ownership has already decided they can’t contend with the current roster, then blow it up.
Tyler 20
unsubstainable?…lol idk it looks like the yankees are having a little more fun than the mets these days
mike156
If Wilpon is “irate” it’s probably because he wants to sell the trope that you need to run a frugal operation in small-market New York City. Personally, I think the Yankees could have done without Stanton. But anyone who thinks Stanton’s contract is going to be the high water mark (or the Yankees the only team spending) with all those big names coming is just fooling themselves.
Cubbie991
same thing every year for the Mets. Wont be a factor until they get a new owner. New name are the Milwaukee Mets. #FLYTHEW
mikeyank55
Hey Cubbies, I know that there’s a rivalry however it is an insult to call then them the Milwaukee Mets.
A more appropriate name would be the Montreal Mets, with a perfect tagline, Le Grand Cheapness.
theruns
They went to the World Series in 2015, were a WC team in 2016.
There is talent there, the owners are too dumb to realize that coming off of a bad year is actually the time to spend lol.
They spent last off season because they had playoff $$ from 2015 to spend. That’s how they operate, on a shoestring and it is pathetic.
“We will spend… Y’know, as soon as the checks clear from when we make a playoff run. After that it’s back to austerity!”
arendes0800
Wilson’s are a joke — they cut payroll every year! They want to eat at Ruth Chris on a McDonalds budget!
Joe Orsulak
Unfortunately Bud Selig and MLB bailed the Wilpons out when they were on the verge of having to sell, all the while forcing McCourt out of LA.
I think the Wilpons cut payroll moreso due to a number of historically bad contracts rather than Madoff. Bonilla, Bay, Castillo, Ollie, Wright to name a few.
They went to the World Series using their new strategy so won’t go back to spending big.
It’s their business and that’s their prerogative.
sampsonite168
So they’re really angry that the Yankees are making big moves while simultaneously lowering the payroll to small market levels. If you can’t afford to compete, sell the team to someone who can.
jdavid979
Oh my God! You can’t make this stuff up!!! Only the Mets have an owner who would be “irate” over a trade that will net his very own team a few extra wins every single year for the next decade! And now they go and hire back Minaya! I needed a good laugh this morning. Wilpon and this third rate excuse for a major league club never disappoint!
okiguess
” Mike Puma, writes that Wilpon was “irate” upon learning of the Yankees’ Giancarlo Stanton acquisition. Wilpon frequently gets upset when seeing his crosstown rivals make blockbuster acquisitions, suggesting that business model to be unsustainable”
Huh, from where I sit, the Yankees live on Park Avenue and the Mets live in squalor. I’m a Met fan and I’d buy a ticket to see a lineup with both Judge and Stanton in it. How can the Wilpons not understand the value of increasing attendance by, say, 1 million?
DXC
Wilpon is so cheap it offends him to see other people spend money. Whether its the Yankees or anyone else. He nearly had a heart attack (I had my fingers crossed) when he learned of Jason Werth’s contract some years ago.
The Mets aren’t reducing payroll, they’re normalizing it. Last year’s top line number (still only a mid market payroll) was a one time thing made necessary by a bunch of expiring deals (with one time or back loaded money) and was really a mirage in any event (they didn’t really spend more than 120 mm, and that will likely be the out of pocket again this year). Their real payroll is, and will continue with an aberration here or there, in the bottom 5-10, and are clearly at the very bottom 5 in terms of scouting and development spending.
joeyrocafella
As a Mefs fan…. It’s tough being a Mets fan!