The Cardinals’ signing of right-hander Miles Mikolas to a two-year, $15.5MM contract might not have been the splash that many St. Louis fans were hoping to see this week, but it nonetheless is a significant pickup for the club. GM Mike Girsch tells reporters, including MLB.com’s Jenifer Langosch, that Mikolas will compete for a rotation spot after impressing Cardinals scouts for several years with his transformation in Japan. “Our scouts have watched him as he refined his repertoire, improved his velocity and became one of the most effective pitchers in Japan the last couple seasons,” says Girsch. “While Miles has always had good control back to his days with San Diego and Texas, he has been able to sharpen his pitches and improve his strikeout rate over the past three seasons.” The righty pitched to a 2.18 ERA with 8.0 K/9 against 1.5 BB/9 in 424 2/3 innings for the Yomiuri Giants before making the leap back to MLB. Langosch also quotes Mikolas himself on a number of the adjustments he made and his decision to sign with the Cardinals, whose Spring Training facility is in Mikolas’ hometown of Jupiter, Fla.
Some more Cardinals chatter as the Winter Meetings loom…
- Adding Mikolas is also in many ways preparation for a potential trade, writes Derrick Goold of the St. Louis Post-Dispatch. Goold reports that the Cards have made a “compelling” offer for Giancarlo Stanton and have discussed right-handers Sandy Alcantara and Jack Flaherty in various trade scenarios with the Marlins. (Notably, Goold does not specify whether either Alcantara or Flaherty is in the Cardinals’ final offer.) The Cardinals, he adds, are also willing to take on more of the contract than other teams.
- Even if Stanton doesn’t approve a trade to the Cardinals, however, Goold points out that their negotiations with the Marlins won’t go to waste. Much of the talk that has gone on between the two clubs could serve as a framework for a deal involving Marcell Ozuna or Christian Yelich, if the Marlins are amenable to parting with them. The Cards have also talked to the Rays about closer Alex Colome, as Goold and others have previously reported, and Goold notes that those talks “could shift or expand” to include Evan Longoria. The longtime Rays cornerstone has come up as a speculative trade candidate on several occasions this winter. As Goold notes, Longoria gains 10-and-5 rights early in the 2018 season, so if the Rays do want to move the remaining five years and $86MM on his contract, this offseason is the time to do it before he gains the full no-trade power that comes with those 10-and-5 rights.
- President of baseball operations John Mozeliak joined Chris Hrabe and Mike Claiborne of KMOX Sports Radio in St. Louis to discuss a host of topics, and the transcription of much of the conversation has been posted online by KMOX. Mozeliak didn’t delve into specifics on the Stanton rumors but did discuss the Mikolas signing, his surplus of young outfield options, some of the team’s new coaching hires (Mike Maddux, Willie McGee) and more. Notably, Mozeliak plainly stated that while some reports have pegged Mikolas as a potential fifth starter, the Cardinals “definitely see him with higher expectations than that.” Regarding the many upper-level outfield prospects the Cardinals have in their system, Mozeliak implies that the team will put that supply of talent to use in the near future. “When you envision the next couple of weeks, it’s how do we take that depth and put it towards finding a way to help the club…” Mozeliak states.
timyanks
cardinals should keep most of their depth and trade most of the positional starters.
chrisduncanfan
Score…a team headlined by Jose Martinez! Great idea friend!
jkinser20
Keep Reyes/Flaherty/Weaver out of trade talks. Send Kelly, Hudson, Alcantara & Wong plus enough cash to cover most of their remaining $$ to MIA for Yelich and Gordon.
Sign Holland to be your closer
Trade Sierra or Bader plus Grichuk for Brad Hand or Herrera or another late inning reliever (may need to throw in a couple low level prospects as well)
Roto looks good with Martinez/Wacha/Waino/Weaver/Flaherty/ Reyes/Mikolas/etc and the offense will come together with Yelich, Carp , Jedd, and Dejong in the middle and Fowler and Pham at the top. Plus Piscotty will surely rebound
Mike 127
I would trade Flaherty over Hudson, wouldn’t trade Kelly at all, would rather have Wong over Gyrko at second, and they need a legit first baseman.
jkinser20
Kelly’s blocked for the next few years why not cash in on him especially since Yadi is still producing. Wong was included in the hypothetical trade I outlined for Gordon and Yelich, therefor Gordon would play second and Gyrko would slide a utility type role. Fair point with needing a legit first baseman but I personally am willing to watch Carpenter fumble around a bit as long as he continues producing at the plate.
JFactor
Wong is better than Gordon, younger, controlled longer, and makes less.
Why would you want Gordon over Wong?
Mike 127
After Yadi is done, Kelly will have 10 years as the Cardinals catcher after learning from Yadi for three years. Carpenter is a slow dead pull hitter and awful baserunner and needs to get traded to allow better options for leadoff.
fmj
carpenter has the highest OPS out of the lead off spot than any other player in the history of the sport. if he’s not the lead off hitter full time next year,, the cardinals are making a mistake.
Dock_Elvis
Higher than Rickey Henderson?
timyanks
carpenter is a detriment to the team
PsychoTim
Lead-off OPS
Carpenter: .878 (2,594 PA)
Boggs: .841 (3,714 PA)
Henderson: .822 (13,122 PA)
I put Boggs in there as another example of a non-speedster lead-off hitter.
chrisduncanfan
You’re a detriment to the team! Nah just foolin friend…but that’s dumb, Carp is the man broferson.
Dad
I know what the “stats” say but base running is KEY to being a good leadoff man, he’s simply not a good base runner. My opinion ( which doesn’t matter ) is keep him,find a place for him to play( quit jerking his positions around)and let Willy and Jose teach him base running .
chrisduncanfan
I agree with this beefcake.
Mike 127
Boggs had a higher ave, obp, and ops batting both second and third. When the Cardinals needed Carpenter to bat third and perform as he did leading off, he failed miserably.
Houston We Have A Solution
Padres have no use for Bader or Sierra or Grichuk for Hand. They have a glut of outfielders as well. Marlins also have no need for Grichuk given he fits neither teams long term plans…….
More likely,
Marlins get- Kelly, Alcantara, Bader, Sierra, and Jones
Cardinals get Yelich and Gordon
Padres get- Perez and Hudson
Cardinals get Hand.
Birdwatcher
Pending Stanton deal. You might get Alcantara for Hand. Perez and Hudson is too much. Cards are not taking Gordon unless he’s flipped and it helps drive down money coming back..
spudchukar
10 years of a guy who cannot hit sounds like a nightmare.
badco44
Good luck with Gordon … he is headed to Seattle
Mike 127
Now that I’ve reread your original comment, that’s way too much for Yelich and Gordon.
jth986
Agreed. Let’s not deplete our prospects. Yelich, Gordon and Longoria are not “impact” bats.
dwhitt3
Agree on Gordon and iffy on Longoria, but I don’t know how you can say Yelich isn’t an impact bat. Haha
kbarr888
Wong is younger, cheaper, and has more pop than Gordon. The steals are impressive, but Gordon only provides value if he comes “with Stanton” and they bat 1-2. Those guys feed off of each other like nobody’s business. Both are more valuable when they are together.
Yelich is a very good player, but Not the Impact bat that the Cards need. They need a true #4 hitter. If they don’t get Stanton, they should trade for Abreu and find a new home for Carpenter. He has been very productive out of the leadoff spot, but his approach has changed……and he’s a sloth on the base paths. His defense is declining as well. If they keep him, he’s a utility guy for 1B, 2B, 3B fill-in duty. He won’t like that.
Kelly is the future catcher, and Yadi isn’t going to hold up for 3 more years (at this pace)…..and Knizner needs a few more seasons before he’s ready. Better off trading him (while he’s HOT).
Cards Did NOT protect Patrick Wisdom, the slugging 3B in the minors. They must know something we don’t. Gyorko has 3 years left on his deal (option for 2020), is affordable, and should continue to improve at the plate. He is a potential 30 HR guy if he plays. If Wisdom gets taken, a long-term 3B needs to be acquired.
Sorry to say this…..but Waino will be lucky to stay in the rotation for a few months. Name recognition is a terrible reason to be in a rotation. He’s been great, but he’s done. Hopefully the combination of Flaherty/Waino/Wacha can hold up until Reyes is ready to start (probably June/July). C-Mart, Reyes, Weaver, Mikolas/Flaherty is the future…….with some combination of Alcantara, Gomber, Hudson, Gallen, Hicks, Helsley left in the funnel to provide for the future.
marlins17
Underpaid for Yelich and overpaid for Hand.
brucewayne
Kelly is not getting traded !
ducksnort69
Longoria’s contract is not expensive even by Rays standards; plus he has more value to them in other ways too.
I don’t think a team will value him the same way that would enable them to give up what it would take for the Rays to benefit.
Colome and Odorizzi package the only big bundle I see possible.
fljay73
I see that trade with Colome & Odorizzi being more of a reality myself also.
balloonknots
Longoria gains a no trade valide if not traded this offseason so he is as good as gone!
Rays reloading as they went for it on Longoria’s last season with them with Duffy to play 3b next season if finally healthy
nissan3981
Angels need to go after Longoria now!
timtim007
I would take Ozuna over JD, mainly because his defense is far more superior. His breakout year last season I hope was not a fluke. He and Yelich both hit a ton of doubles, and both have excellent defense. Not completely sold on Longoria. His offensive numbers are not mind boggling, but assume his defense is good as well. Maybe Santa Claus will bring all these players to the Cardinals, plus Hosmer and Wade Davis lol.
NOPelicanFangirl696969
If the rays trade longoria i might actually shed a tear… we are already losing a lot of players i like a lot, stupid small budgets…
balloonknots
No be happy we a young player and keep my 3b Lower lower seats at $22
I mean I feel it but I don’t as I like to go to the games and not break the bank plus I enjoy the growth of the young players so much and the pain of their growth just the same!
mateodh
Marlins want to shed payroll. Package Ozuna with Chen and take a lesser prospect return. Keep Yelich, though, his contract isn’t detrimental.
Stromalama 2
If they do that then they won’t get much back. Chen’s contract is awful and he isn’t very good.
cards81
lol Chen Doesn’t even know if he will pitch in 2018 and to be honest sounds like he may not pitch again…even if he does the rehab will be half his contract…so sorry but the marlins are stuck with Chen
Stromalama 2
If the Cardinals turn to Longoria then I hope they can find some way to package Colome and Archer in the deal.
Wainofan
Yes. Colome, archer, longoria > Stanton
Stromalama 2
Agreed. They’ll still need another bat and bullpen arm IMO.
chrisduncanfan
I think the cards should send the Stanton package for Trout and Pujols. We get our beloved Pujols back and get the Big Fish. Angels get rid of Pujols and good prospects.
My cousin said this is the best idea he’s ever heard of!
brucewayne
Then your cousin is an idiot!
chrisduncanfan
I don’t think the cardinals are very good…plus their fans are pretty disrespectful
chrisduncanfan
Not!