A few AL East rumblings from Nick Cafardo of the Boston Globe:
- The Red Sox and Yankees remain interested in Orioles third baseman/shortstop Manny Machado, though neither team has “moved the needle” in talks with the O’s, Nick Cafardo of the Boston Globe reports. Baltimore is reportedly done actively shopping Machado, as it doesn’t believe any other club has put forth a suitable offer for the superstar as he prepares for a contract year. Given that both the Red Sox and Yankees are in the Orioles’ division, it figures to be especially difficult for either to persuade the Orioles to move Machado. The left side of Boston’s infield looks to be in fine shape anyway with Rafael Devers at third and Xander Bogaerts at short. The Yankees, on the other hand, don’t have an obvious third base solution to place next to shortstop Didi Gregorius.
- Blue Jays closer Roberto Osuna has garnered plenty of trade inquiries this winter, according to Cafardo. However, there’s no indication the Jays are considering moving the proven Osuna, who’s still young (23 in February) and set to play his first of three potential arbitration years in 2018. The right-hander turned in his third straight excellent year last season, tossing 64 innings of 3.38 ERA ball with career-best strikeout (11.67 K/9), walk (1.27 BB/9) and groundball (48 percent) rates.
- While Boston had interest in first baseman Carlos Santana before he joined the Phillies, the Red Sox never actually made him an offer, per Cafardo. Santana secured a three-year, $60MM guarantee, easily outdoing the two-year, $13MM pact the Sox handed newly re-signed first baseman Mitch Moreland this week.
Yankeepatriot
Just start andujar and Torres and if anything just wait for machado to walk. Letting the kids play helped get the Yankees where they are right now !
walls17
Yup if Andujar does really well maybe you don’t need to fork over the money for manny. Never will know until you give the kid a chance. I think he has star potential for sure
Yankeepatriot
Andujars bat is quite good and he has a lot of pop. His defense can be worked on and improve with hard work. I really want him to play third while Torres starts at second
bigkempin
A lot of pop? He hit 16HR in 522 PA’s in 2017. He followed that up by hitting 1 HR in 70 PA’s in Winter League.
southi
And Judge nor Sanchez neither one demonstrated the massive power they’ve shown in the majors in the minor leagues either. It doesn’t always even out and many minor league parks are actually more difficult to homer in than the major league parks. Most evaluators expect Andujar to show slightly more than league average power.
7mick7
He had 54 extra base hits and slugged .498 in 480 AB’s. Yeah, I would say he has some pop that should improve as he improves. No doubt Andujar will be hitting 25-30 HR’s on a yearly basis as he reaches his prime.
Priggs89
No doubt? Ok.
Can you use that crystal ball to give me the winning lotto numbers?
southbeachbully
Manny Machado has had a 105 hrs in the last 3 years in the majors. In his entire career in the minors with 932 PA he only hit 23 hrs, Tons of players learn to hit hrs while in the majors. Jose Ramirez and Robinson Cano are examples.
PS-Not comparing the actual talents of those mlbers to Frazier.
InPolesWeTrust
No doubt? Kevin Maas has something to say about that…or every other ‘can’t miss’ prospect that was going to ‘no doubt’ hit 25-30 dingers in their prime. Every Sox prospect is a future HOFer…..cmon man
delete
His slugging percentage was over .500 in 2017. That’s borderline elite pop! Pop doesn’t mean pure homerun hitter.
mtnorth5
you realize kids in the minors aren’t finished products, right… and that power is usually measured as future power? You probably only assess a prospect based on MiLB stats, too
Kayrall
Lol
thecoffinnail
Agreed.. Andujar reminds me of a young Aramis Ramirez.. He has definitely earned a shot.. Somebody has to bat 9th and just about every other team would give a prospect like him a shot if they had a clear opening like the Yankees do at his natural position..
KnicksCavsFan
I agree. Macaroni is a great talent but I don’t think the yanked need to go back to the days of collecting FA all-stars at every position. We have great offense already. Would rather see what Torres, Andujar, Estrada and Solack can do. As a Yanks fan, I say no to Machado and Harper.
thecoffinnail
You don’t just pass on one of the top 5 players in all of baseball just because you want to see what the kids can do.. Even the great Yankee teams of the dynasty years supplemented their home grown core talent with All-Stars like David Cone, Jimmy Key, Mike Mussina, David Justice, Up-Chuck Knoblauch (sp?) and Tino Martinez..
By your logic the Yankees should not have traded for Roger Clemens in 1999 because they had Ryan Bradley as their #2 prospect and he was MLB ready.. Also, the Yankees clearly should not have signed Jason Giambi to play 1st when they had one of the top 25 prospects in baseball, Nick Johnson, ready for an everyday role..
You don’t pass on players who are considered to be the very best at their position just because you might have a serviceable prospect ready in the minors.. I would give up any 3 Yankees prospects not named Torres for 1 year of Machado. The Yankees clearly plan on chasing him in Free agency and it would be worth the prospect capitol to see how he handles playing on the difficult stage in New York for a year before handing him $35+ million AAV on a lengthy contract..
AndThisGameBelongsToMySanDiegoPadres
“Macaroni”
Cardinals17
Amen to that!! They were fun to watch. Just hope that Stanton doesn’t come in and disrupt what they have going in the clubhouse. Plus, Judge should have the choice to play right field or not. He was there first and was the Yankee MVP candidate last year.
toptekjon
Agreed! Yankees lineup is more than good enough to absorb some rookie struggles. Let Torres play 2B and Andujar play 3B.
lilpartialbaldo
I was hoping my Yankees were past of the days of buying championships, but it looks like we’ve returned to those days. No joy in winning like that.
Yankeepatriot
I don’t think they will actually get machado to be honest. Especially if the kids make an impact. I’m hoping the Phillies take him so we won’t get him ourselves
venom
That’s like saying any time a team signs a free agent they’re buying a championship! Most of the team is home grown talent. There will always be some players brought in. No point in trading for him as it would be a one year rental. I don’t think we need cole either, give Adams a chance. Plus we have Florial and Sheffield on the rise. I wouldn’t mind signing Todd Frazier to a one year deal and letting andujar get some more minor league time in .
bigcat73
Funny? Homegrown? Severino, Stanton, gray, possibly machado, Chapman, Robertson, Sabathia, bottom line is Yankees will buy what they need to be impactful but will still come up short in playoffs
TheHammer16
Severino and Robertson are home grown….smh
Yankeepatriot
You mean you hope they come up short. You are speaking like you can see the future
igotabooner
With your logic houston just bought themselves a championship right with guys like verlander, mccann, Beltran, Reddick, gurriel, Gonzalez, morton, Gattis, giles, devenksi… please shut up with the buying championships any team that wants to compete goes and acquires what they need don’t complain that your teams owners would rather pocket profits than invest in their teams
venom
Judge, Sanchez, severino, bird,Robertson, betances, Montgomery, gardener, warren,green, romine, traded for gregorius before he was relevant so almost home grown. Bigcat73 you should actually watch some baseball before you post stupid comments which make you look dumb!
Bob Knob
1000% correct !
michaelw
You seem to be angered. You Yank fans think your $ hit doesn’t stink. He can’t see the future. But neither can you. You should practice what your preach and hope they make the WS are you guys will be back to your lame predictions and same BS next year. Oh yeah your set for next year your getting Macho n Harper and spending over a half Billion. Billion with a B. I forget. Good luck with that. Lol
Yankeepatriot
Khanle was in our system before being flipped to the White Sox too
venom
Harper is a head case who’s never played a whole season. Don’t need him and don’t want him. You sound like a cry baby Red Sox fan. Keep hating we love the tears!
Priggs89
That one is a little too much of a stretch for me. While Kahnle did come from the Yankees system originally, he didn’t do much “growing” until Coop got a hold of him. I’d say “grown elsewhere then returned home” for him.
Vedder80
Gregorius was already relevant and a starter in the MLB, so you are being disingenuous.
BronxBombers14
The best part about this entire off-season is cashman has improved the team while cutting payroll. To say the Yankees buy championships at this point is a ridiculous statement.
mikeyank55
Hey bigcat-either you are a mets or Sox fan, or you need anger management classes
Flapjax55
As much as I loathe NYY I completely agree with you.
re-tweeted cleats
A single World Series win can be accomplished by either method home grown talent or acquiring star free agents. Dynasties are made from a mix of home grown plus star free agent signings. ( see Jeters class of dynasty years with the Yankees)
Hrmike
Agreed. Getting there with homegrown talent is definitely more satisfying and fun to watch, at least in my opinion. Trades like stanton are fine since he just fell into our lap, but just going out and buying big names feels cheap, it’s not as exciting. Most teams lose their core players in FA, but that’s different with a big market team like the Yankees… I feel like we should be saving space for that more so than chasing these guys.
southbeachbully
That’s exactly what Cashman has been doing the last 3 years. Look at the entire roster. Most were either drafted/intl signees of the Yanks or traded for using other prospects in the farm.
yanks02026
Lol. So now they’re not allowed to sign one player or they’d be considered buying a championship.
BoldyMinnesota
To be fair, they’re strapped with multiple salaries that only maybe one or two other teams co
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BoldyMinnesota
Wow that wasn’t supposed to happen. To be fair, they’re strapped with multiple contracts that only one or two other teams could handle at the same time. There’s not many teams that could manage around a Stanton, Ellsbury, and Chapman contract. Each one of those contracts would set back many teams for years. Thats where the buying a championship comes from. Being able to give out or take on bad contracts without any consequence with it
mikeyank55
Hey JF…I get it about large market teams’ advantages, however it’s more than one or two teams. The number is closer to 10 in reality.
And what made this deal possible was Cash willing to flip Castro and Headly to offset the cost in ‘18.
BoldyMinnesota
Idk I for sure see the dodgers, Cubs and Red Sox as teams that fit that bill, but not too many others. Maybe the Giants, although all they’re bad contracts are relatively small
lord vincent
It reassuring that there are nice Yankee fans! I personally get tire of big market teams like the Yanks, Red Sox and Dodgers just going out and out spending the others. It shows the MLB needs a salary cap to keep teams from buying all the top free agents.
Munsonmanor4
The luxury tax works. If it didn’t, why did the Red Sox this past season dedicate themselves on staying under it? The Dodgers and Yankees are trying their darnest to keep under it this upcoming season so it resets. The Yankees are at a bit of a crossroads. They succeeded last year when it was supposed to be another rebuilding year. Their main question marks are in the rotation. Can Severino repeat last season? Did Tanaka not opt out because if other teams saw his medicals on his right arm, they wouldn’t offer him as much as his current deal would pay? Can you put your trust on the 5 spot of your rotation to either Jordan Montgomery or Chance Adams? Will Sonny Gray ever pitch like he did in 2014 and 2015, or is this what he is now? I know the Yankees would like to have another veteran starter, but giving up a Frazier for Gerrit Cole, I don’t believe is the answer.
rmullig2
No team was allowed to even talk to Tanaka unless he opted out much less look at his medical records. He stayed with the Yankees because that is where he wanted to be.
Flapjax55
No. Money talks. If he could have made more he would have been gone.
ndjeff125
The draft pick that got us Judge came from the Indians signing swisher, who we traded for. So what does wanting just home grown talent really mean.
hawaiiphil
That’s not buying championships.
I’m so glad to see yankee fans make these reasonable posts.
Uruguay77
What’s wrong with that ?!! So you have the $$$ to get a Superstar player on the position that’s Void but not gonna do it cause and I quote “ is not right “ . So you gonna let another team get him ?! Cause if you don’t someone else will.
rocky7
Dumb comment!
Dude most of the team is homegrown.
Yankee4Life27
Here we go with the “buying championships” stupidly… It’s called signing free agents, and every team does it, why is so wrong when the Yankees do it?
brucewayne
Exactly ! Every team buys them! Well most of them anyway, except for Texas , Nats, Mariners, Padres, Rockies, Brewers,
brucewayne
Players don’t play for free on other teams do they? So stupid comment about buying championships!
thecoffinnail
Your Yankees? The Yankees have been buying players for over 100 years starting with Babe Ruth having been bought for cash alone… When you play in the largest market in the country you can afford the very best.. The Yankees would not have won the division, let alone the World Series in 1999 without buying players like Cone, Martinez, and Clemens..
Would the Astros have even won their division or the World Series last year without having brought in Verlander, Reddick, Beltran, Gurriel, McCann and Morton?
dynamite drop in monty
Sometimes instead of reading Cafardo I dust off my old copy of Rohl Dahl’s “James and the Giant Peach”. It is more grounded in reality.
rocky7
Especially when he says the left side of the Sox infield is well manned with Xander and Devers.
Saw Devers at the end of the year and he looked overmatched defensively at 3rd. Lots of room for improvement there. Xander can certainly pick it though.
dynamite drop in monty
Yeah. It’s well manned in regards to a bright future, but not entirely stable going into 2018 especially defensively. Devers actually wasn’t as much of a butcher as I anticipated but his throws are an adventure, another reason why I think the Moreland signing was apt.
Bruin1012
Actually Devers looked better then I anticipated at third he is much quicker then I expected him to be and pretty nimble footwork really comes on on the ball well. He made some throwing errors but it is obvious that he has a ton of arm. Seemed like he made a lot of errors on balls he should of never tried to throw. He will learn and I think he will do well at third. The Red Sox are just fine the Yankees have improved their team but the Red Sox will be much better offensively this year they just had a down year and the Red Sox starters are better then the Yankees and there bullpens are also very close. Should be an interesting season.
thecoffinnail
I will agree that the Red Sox and Yankees match up on paper very well and the opening day edge does have to go to the Red Sox on the experience factor alone.. But, over the course of the entire season the Yankees depth and eventual graduation of their top prospects are going to allow them to pull away.. The Red Sox were set up for the future under Cherington and had the makings for a great dynasty.. They had an obvious advantage over the Yankees but decided Dombrowski was the best executive going forward and with that choice stepped back 10 years.. It felt like Cherington had Sandoval and Ramirez forced upon him by ownership because their signings seemed obstructive to what he was trying to build.. Unfortunately, he was the scape goat for those disasters (Castillo and the Lackey trade didn’t help)..
Personally, I like when the Sox and Yankees both have great teams.. I love the rivalry.. I just wish Cherington had been able to finish what he started because his blueprint seems to be the example Cashman has gone by the last couple of years.. I would have liked to have seen the finished product take the field against the Yankees for the next 5 years..
Bruin1012
I think the success of the Yankees will come down to their pitching.
The Red Sox have the advantage with their starters but they, like the Yankees, have question marks in their rotation. I think the Red Sox have a little better rotation on paper.
The offense has to go to the Yankees but I also believe the Red Sox will be much improved on offense as well.
The Red Sox have graduated a ton of prospects that is why their farm is down right now. If you look at what DD traded, with the exception of pitchers, almost all were blocked. When you have as deep and as good of a farm as the Red Sox has a few years ago you just can’t keep all of the farm. You need to make trades to shore up your major league team. The Yankees are at that point now they have so many prospects not room for all of them so Cashman will be trading for what he seems the team needs going forward.
It’s really good to have a healthy farm but the whole goal is to win with the big league club. Teams farms will go up and down as they trade guys and inevitably guys graduate to the big leagues.
This will be an interesting year between the Red Sox and Yankees and I believe whomever’s pitching holds up better will win the East.
slider32
Cashman is smart like a fox, he is in on Manny because he wants Manny to know that he wants him on the team. He is not going to give the O’s a lot of his best prospects to get him for this year or half a year and neither are the Sox. Cashman is just setting things up for next year.
Houston We Have A Solution
Yankees also made it known they wanted Ohtani and Cano there. Means nothing unless the player wants to be there.
Players care about many things but two of the most important are paycheck and how it impacts the player and family.
For instance, miami has been clearing a boat load of financial committments. I wouldnt be surprised if they pursue two top tier guys next year machado being one given the fact machado is a miami kid. He was very highly recruited from an early age and attended Brito High School in Miami and was drafted by the Orioles with the third overall pick in the 2010 Major League Baseball draft. He bats and throws right-handed. He was raised in Miami, FL.
Machado to the Marlins if they decide to build a contender next year is something that could happen.
But man wouldnt that be a story line. Yankees lose machado to the marlins because they took stantons contract and couldnt get rid of ellsbury.
southbeachbully
Dude did you copy and paste that bio info? Yeesh. I think the media attaches certain players to the Yanks moreso than the front office. I don’t think the Yanks were shocked or crushed because Ohtani choose the Angels. I’m also not convinced that the Yanks are going to dole out these huge contracts for Harper or Machado. I heard speculation that they would consider signing Harper if they can send Stanton to LA for prospects. I don’t know how realistic that is but I can’t envision a OF with Stanton, Judge and Harper (unless they have decided to make Stanton a full time DH next season. But I really can’t see the Yanks committing to that much risk into Harper, Machado and Stanton while trying to keep their young players. They might be able to afford it but it wouldn’t allow any flexibility and I think the Yanks remember having old guys like Sheffield, Giambi, Arod, Matsui, Jeter, Damon, Posada, Clemens, Pettite, Abreu and others on one team. All over 30 and earning tons of money. I think he values flexibility.
mikeyank55
Everyone wanted Ohtani, relief…sort of anyway.
Nobody wanted Cano with his attitude and his attitude agent. Cash wouldn’t put up the cash, period.
Turns out that was another of his best moves, because sometimes the best moves that you make are the ones you don’t make
thecoffinnail
Exactly.. I don’t understand how Ohtani saying no to 29 other teams is a direct slap to the face of the Yankees.. He wanted to play on the West Coast which seems to be the choice of the majority of Asian players..
The Yankees might have dodged a huge bullet if the rumors of Ohtani’s bum elbow turns out to be correct.. The last thing they need is a mirror image of Tanaka’s ticking time bomb of an elbow..
I for one was sad to see Cano go and his bat playing 2nd base is a rare thing.. But, when he came out and said the Yankees “disrespected him” by only offering $186 million I remembered why he was never a favorite player of mine.. It might have taken a few years but I think Torres will be able to fill Cano’s shoes.. At least he seems to be a team first player and not the me, me, me player Cano seemed to be..
RedFeather
Contrary to popular believe, foxes are not that smart. You have the flip-flopped, Manny just wants to be a Yankee. Cashman is just trying to speed up the process. Now that they took on Stanton‘s contract, there’s no way they’re going to invest roughly 120+ million for 3 players per year. Judge will get paid. Your eventually talking 37mil for Stanton, 37-40 mil for Machado, and who knows what Judge will eventually make? Maybe 38-45 per by that time? Can’t believe I’m saying this but even the Yankees can’t afford that. Especially for just three players
mikeyank55
Yes we can. The Steinbrenners are making a bid on Tuesday to buy the NY Mets franchise and turn it into a “B” team, since the current owners have made it a “C” team.
“C” is for cheap or cheaters
thecoffinnail
Lol.. Think of how much money they will save on medical exams for the Mets pitching staff since the Yankees already have the Carl Pavano Memorial MRI Tube on hand..
Houston We Have A Solution
Orioles should send Machado to the Cardinals for Bader, Hudson, Gyorko, Fernandez, and Hicks.
Orioles pick up 3 quality arms, someone to replace machado in Gyorko, and a long term answer in RF.
Cardinals keep flaherty weaver reyes get machado, but give up quantity instead of quality.
CompanyAssassin
I don’t really get the Jays, I’m generally not for tanking, and I’m not saying they should, but didn’t they lose like 90 games last year? Their offense has only gotten weaker and they haven’t really done anything to help that. So they can’t expect to get better without it, and demanding trades that “only make them better” won’t really do it. It may make them better 3 years down the line and put them in a good spot for several years, but it’d take a lot, primarily on the FO’s part to actually make the team better.
bleacherguy
You’re right.. You don’t really get the Jays.
ThePriceWasRight
no he’s actually right. it’s you unfortunately who are lost.
thecoffinnail
The Jays should blow it up like the White Sox.. Stroman, Osuna, Sanchez, Donaldson, and Happ would bring back a huge haul.. Especially if they concentrated on a full rebuild and went after the best players at the Single A level.. The White Sox seemed to be more interested in MLB ready or near ready players.. By going after 19-20 year old top prospects (which is riskier) they could achieve a greater return and allow them to develop in their system while they wait out their contracts for Martin, Tulo, and Morales to expire ( in Tulo’s case for it to become more affordable in 2020).. in the next 2 years.. Their prospects would be approaching MLB ready in 2020 and they would have tons of available money to spend on that years crop of free agents.. That class (barring extensions/options() includes players like Sale, Bumgarner and Goldschmidt..
They have very little chance of competing with the Yankees and Red Sox this year and a Wild Card is just as doubtful.. Why not blow it up now and set themselves up for 2021 when the Red Sox window starts to close?
jimmertee
Regarding the article, Osuna would be one of their most coveted trade chips if they decide to rebuild. He could bring back a haul.
I hear Sanchez will have to go to the bullpen anyway because of his finger issues, so why not trade Osuna and try out Sanchez as closer?
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Did it ever make much sense for the Red Sox or Yankees to make a serious offer for Machado now? My guess is that they dangled a borderline package in the hopes that Baltimore would bite.
Justin Allen
For what Baltimore was asking for Machado, I’m perfectly content waiting a year for him to hit free agency. You lose leverage when you’re asking price is so high that everyone knows no one sane GM is going to pull trigger.
RedFeather
Toronto – you guys need to sell.. sorry but you know it. Your team was stacked and now the AL East is a force. Take what you can get this year and go crazy next offseason. You can re open that window next offseason. You might as well get what you can for Donaldson now. Gyrko, Grichuk, and a prospect will not loose you any production this year. If anything you get 3 great controllable players and as trade bait. I fill like your current front office is gambling this year to win before they sell off the organization.
NoRegretzkys
As long as one of those prospects is Reyes, I’d do that deal for the Jays. I think that is what’s holding up a deal, the Jays are stuck on getting one specific player in the return, and StL isn’t interested in giving up said prospect.
RedFeather
Reyes 1. Is untradable 2. He just had Tommy John so.. The Cardinals actually have a lot of great pitching prospects to that the Jay’s could benefit from. Keep in mind Donaldson is a free agent after this year and he’s going to be 33 I believe. His value is an exactly as high as it used to be when the Jays acquired him.
ThePriceWasRight
gyorko, grichuk Flaherty and Hudson for JD
redsox 1976
Muller should investigate the Stanton deal after the RussianGate#MAGA
redsox 1976
Trade!!! Sorry
Priggs89
If they’re so great, why is every Cardinals fan trying to pawn them off onto other teams in every single thread?
Yankeepatriot
Agreed. It’s like they hope they get flipped. Wouldn’t it be best to start these young talents if they are that highly regarded ?
RedFeather
Because they have an insane amount of depth in the outfield.
jimmertee
Yeah the Jays need to sell. Trading Donaldson now is the right move. Who knows what the market is for him or Machado. The Orioles couldn’t get 2 MLB ready srarting pitching prospects for Machado so they took Machado off the market.
Both guys when they are hot can carry a team. Both have had injury issues. The price for a guy like this on a one year rental is usually 3 prospects, 2 low level and one ready for MLB or two mid level propsects, not the Reyes type deal everyone talks about from STL.
charlesk
Why wouldn’t the Cards trade Gyorko, Reyes, and one of Flaherty/Weaver for Donaldson and Jon Harris/Sean Ried-Foley? If he plays 150+ games he’s good for a 7+ WAR which gives the Cards their division and a shot at the World Series…one year of Donaldson is worth that, no? Two Major league-ready starters mean the Jays could also deal Happ and Estrada for OF and pitching prospects, and rebuild around Stroman, Sanchez, Reyes, Osuna, Vlad Jr, Bichette, etc. You’d have to convince this core that the team could be reasonably competitive again in 2019/20, but I agree with RedFeather: I don’t think the Jays, as they’re set up currently, can compete for a wildcard in 2018 unless they get a huge bounce-back from Sanchez, Tulo, Martin, etc., as well as continued production from Donaldson and Smoak, and Ace-type stuff in a tough AL East from Stroman. And they probably also need a FA reclamation/”prove it” project on Carlos Gomez or Carlos Gonzalez to work out as well.
jimmertee
I agree that the Jays need to blow it up and rebuild, but to give you good scouting info, they cannot build around the group being suggested.
Sanchez finger is not healed and I hear that he will eventually move to the pen.
As far as the pospects mentioned, Vlad jr will likely be a star. Bischette will not, he’d be lucky to be a average major leaguer. He won’t be a core player/star.
As far a trading Donaldson for those St louis prospects, I’m sure the Jays would do 3 propects including 2 MLB ready arms for Donaldson in a heartbeat, but the Cards will not, it won’t happen for a 1 year rental no matter how the war may line up. The Jays would jump at that deal and that deal might cost the Cards GM his job it is so one-sided.
I agree that Happ and Estrada should be traded now. We won;t be seeing bounce back seasons from Tulo or Martin. They may start off strong but they will eventually break down.
Stroman is a solid #2 but his pension for blowup innings keeps him from being an ace.
Smoak? I have shared before. I think last year was artificial and we may see a good start out of him but the steep fade during the season will be significant as it always is with him.
JordanB28
The Yankees don’t NEED Manny Machado, but Any yankee fan who doesn’t want him because we have Andujar is an idiot point blank period. Anytime you have the opportunity to create a juggernaut team and add a generational two wa player you do it. The Yankees passing up on Machado would be the equivalent of the Miami Heat passing on LeBron James because they had Michael Beasley. That’s just plain stupid.
driftcat28 2
Why give up the prospects in a trade for one guaranteed season of Machado when there’s no guarantee he’ll re-sign? If that were the case now you have no Machado and no solution in the minors. To get Machado then we’re talking about trading Torres and Florial and Sheffield etc. I don’t know if you remember, but not too long ago there was no help in the minors. The Yankees were forced to pay for aging and declining players. That’s why seasons like 2013 happen when the every day lineup includes Lyle Overbay and Travis Hafner and Vernon Wells. Any yankees fan who wants to mortgage the future for one season is an idiot, point blank period.
JordanB28
Could care less. Right now we have a 5-7 year window and we should go for it. Besides if you have him on your team for a year and gets acclaimed to the city you have a better chance to sign him long term anyhow. By the time the window is up we would’ve had at least that amount of time to have rebuilt the farm. You think Heat organization is all that upset that they have to rebuild after going to 4 finals and winning 2 of them? Because I wouldn’t be. And stop conflating 2013 with 2017 because those are 2 different situations. 2013 the window was closing so they had to keep all of the prospects. We can afford to lose some now The we have a window open.
JordanB28
*we have a window opening.
driftcat28 2
They can afford to lose SOME, I.E in a trade for a controllable starter like Cole who won’t take the farm to get. Machado will cost everyone. Then if he decides to leave now the “5-7” year window has gotten smaller. && we don’t want another 2013 situation which is what would happen when you start dealing all your top prospects and then signing aging players to make up for the lack of prospects which you just dealt. The Yanks got lucky that the Stanton deal fell into their laps where they could use their financial might to get the player without giving up the prospects. You think if Miami didn’t care about salary relief but instead wanted top talent (Torres, Sheffield, Frazier) NY would’ve been inclined to make a deal? Nope. It’s a new age in Bronx, and not a moment too soon
And stop bringing basketball into this, they’re completely different sports and different situations. In basketball all you really need to go far and challenge for championships is 2 superstar players. The heat have a terrible chance of competing this year, however if they sign LeBron and some other superstar for next season then they’re instantly championship contenders.
southbeachbully
Machadio is a great player. A savant. But you know what else he is? A career .329 OBP hitter. I’m not sure if you want to be the one that gives a guy like that a projected $30 to $40 mil for 8 to 10 years. Aside from his HRS, he had, for him, a down year on both sides of the field. He’s still a top 3 3b. My point is, based off of last year, do you commit to giving him a possible record setting deal?
At the least the Yanks should wait until he’s a FA and base interest off of 2017 and 2018. Let;s see if he can rebound from last year. But if I’m giving you $30-$40 mil per then I expect it all. Defense, power, OBP and higher batting average.
bradthebluefish
Red Sox aren’t interested in winning this year. SAD!
Clay Buttholes
Why can’t the Sox just move Devers to left and trade E-Rod back to the O’s?
Bruin1012
Because Devers is a third baseman.
Yankeepatriot
Judge
Sanchez
Gardner
Bird
Khanle
Robertson
Betances
Severino
Montgomery
Warren
Romine
Chances are one or both of Torres and andujar will start the season with the team
That’s almost half of the 25 man roster and people STILL claim the Yankees are buying championships. Are you kidding me ?????? Oh and fraizer will more than likely take over for Gardner and Chance Adams could possibly be a full time starter by 2019 so there’s two more
Just admit it, the Yankees aren’t in George Steinbrenner mode anymore. Oh and the Yankees have the right to get a feee agent just as much as the other 29 teams out there
simschifan
Frazier is not homegrown buddy
Yankeepatriot
Still will come from our farm system though. People think they just buy players and don’t bring up youth but that hasn’t been true for a few years now
driftcat28 2
^ this is the only rebuttal you got. You’re absolutely right the Yankees are young and (mostly) homegrown. Good times are ahead
BoldyMinnesota
Basically the majority of every team is “homegrown”. The only difference is that the Yankees have an unlimited amount of money to add onto it while the majority of the other teams don’t. How many teams could have the same amount of large, borderline bad contracts as the Yankees do?
lonestardodger
The asking price on Machado is way too high. Nobody will give up two controllable starters for a rental. That’s too steep a price
redsox 1976
Homegrown?? Judge,Fraziers,Torres?? Trade you…. f..ckkkk
igotabooner
sorry buddy judge was drafted by the yankees
JKB 2
Uhm … RedSox1976 … Judge was a first round pick of the Yankees. Get your facts right.
bernbabybern
Angelos will never ever ever trade Machado to the Yankees, may as just stop writing about that.
Play Andjujar.
soxski
The two best things that rounded out 2017 as a Sox gan… JF was fired and MM was gone. I can’t figure out the logic since Hanley played just as good defense in 16 that MM did in 17. In fact, MM missed dozens of balls that could have been picked lowering the error parade from the left side. Sure these were errant throws but a gold glove 1B picks many of them. I thought 13 did a gr8 job picking errant throws in 16. 17 Hanley had a down year plagued by shoulder injury…. but he still produced similar to MM on an up year…. MM should only be an insurance policy in case Ramirez can’t play 1B postponing Hanley is a bad idea. As far as Manny is concerned he If is
redsoxrob9418
Yankees fans alway seem to think they know it all, they out spend every team in baseball every year and call themselves great….. most of them don’t have a clue what there talking about….. just blah blah blah arrogant yankoffs
Yankeepatriot
They don’t even have the highest payroll !!!!!
privy
Devers needs to make adjustments. Teams started to figure him out.
Yankeepatriot
I like devers to be honest. Just hope he doesn’t hurt my team much at all from here on out lol
GarryHarris
The Yankees could still acquire Manny Machado and stay with their plan to use developing players. It would require them to play Machado at SS. However, the Yankees lineup would be very right handed.
SG
Does anyone out there think David Price may have had anything to do with John Farrell losing his job?
grndslam
Do all Yankee fans have amnesia… Machado wants to go back to SS. He ain’t signing with Yankees!! Start Andujar & we already have 5 starters with 2 blue chips & others like Cessa as insurance ready to start on a phone call. Let Pavano.. I mean Cole stay in the NL.