TODAY: The early interest in Santana is robust, per Jon Heyman of Fan Rag, who writes that Santana “is thought to be drawing interest from as many as 10 teams.”
Among those reaching out to his representatives, per Heyman, are the Angels as well as two eyebrow-raising NL East clubs: the Mets and Phillies. The New York franchise has had its moments of frustration with Dominic Smith, though it would remain surprising to see him blocked entirely by a player that likely can’t be utilized anywhere other than first base. Mike Puma of the New York Post does tweet, though, that the club could send Smith back to Triple-A and eventually shop him. And the Phillies would appear to be set at first with Rhys Hoskins, though he could in theory be shifted to the corner outfield after experimenting there last year. (Of course, the team has other young players in the outfield and indications are that the preference is not to disturb that mix.)
YESTERDAY: The Red Sox have an obvious hole at first base in their lineup, and they’re set to begin the preliminary stages of filling that vacancy at this week’s GM Meetings. Nick Cafardo of the Boston Globe tweets that Boston will sit down with Carlos Santana’s agents at Octagon, while Evan Drellich of NBC Sports Boston reports that the Sox have also lined up a meeting with Logan Morrison’s representatives at ISE Baseball.
Boston isn’t alone in eyeing that pair, however. Jeff Fletcher of the Orange County Register reports that the Angels are considering a run at Morrison as they look to add some left-handed punch to their lineup. Morrison is one of multiple players on Anaheim’s radar, Fletcher notes.
Meanwhile, the Mariners have interest in bringing Santana into the fold, according to MLB.com’s Jon Morosi (on Twitter). There have yet to be any “substantial” discussions between the two sides, Morosi cautions (as one would expect this early in the offseason), but first base is a definite area of need for the Mariners. Seattle saw both Yonder Alonso and Danny Valencia hit free agency when the season ended, and while Dan Vogelbach represents an internal option, he’s not considered to be a strong defender.
Santana, 32 in April, is widely considered to be one of the best first basemen available on the free-agent market this offseason. While he wouldn’t necessarily provide the huge power bat that many Sox fans covet — he belted a career-high 34 homers in 2016 but saw that mark fall to a more typical 23 homers in 2017 — Santana is an on-base machine who has also worked himself into one of the premier defensive first basemen in the league.
A switch-hitter, Santana batted .259/.363/.455 this past season and has never posted an OBP south of .351 in a season. Santana has walked at a 15.2 percent clip in his career against just a 17 percent strikeout rate (13.2 percent and 14.1 percent, respectively, in 2017). Originally a catcher, Santana eventually moved off the position to first base and has built up a quality reputation there. He was a Gold Glove finalist this past season after registering a +10 Defensive Runs Saved mark and a +4.8 Ultimate Zone Rating. The Indians made a qualifying offer to Santana, so he’d cost the Red Sox their second-highest pick in next year’s draft as well as $500K of their international signing pool. The Mariners would have a lighter penalty, only surrendering their third-highest pick.
As for Morrison, he’s a younger option that’ll play most of next season at the age of 30. A longtime top prospect, Morrison’s career never fully took off as hoped in either Miami or in Seattle. However, he rebounded from a slow start with the Rays last year to hit .275/.350/.498 with 14 homers over his final 303 plate appearances before a wrist injury ended his season.
Morrison returned to the Rays as a free agent on a one-year, $2.5MM contract this past offseason and proved to be one of the top bargains in all of baseball. In 601 plate appearances, Morrison posted a .246/.353/.516 line and 38 homers while receiving slightly above-average marks from DRS and UZR himself (+1 from each metric). He doesn’t come with the platoon issues that many left-handed hitters carry, either, as he hammers right-handed opponents and has been a bit above average against lefties over the past two years. Including his strong finish in 2016, Morrison has raked at a .256/.352/.510 pace (130 wRC+) with an 11.8 percent walk rate and a 23.1 percent strikeout rate in 904 plate appearances.
Despite that huge season, the budget-conscious Rays opted not to extend a QO to Morrison. Tampa Bay had already extended a QO to righty Alex Cobb and surely didn’t relish the notion of taking the risk, however small, of two players accepting one-year salaries worth $17.4MM. Morrison now benefits from that decision, though, as he won’t require interested parties to surrender a draft pick or international money upon signing.
24TheKid
As a Mariner fan, I’m tired of platoons. Bring in Santana.
Phil253
I feel ya.
Dutch Vander Linde
I hate that word, but owners and GMs seems to like it
Hawkeye2020
Correct me if I’m wrong but is Pujols the DH for LAA? OR does he play first still?
strostro
DH. they need a 1st baseman though
dynamite drop in monty
I still have faith in Casey Kotchman.
Oakley Dude
LMAO
sufferforsnakes
Bring back Wally!
timm-2
Isn’t he a little old to be a full time 1b now?
sufferforsnakes
Eventually Pujols will get hurt, then Wally can DH occasionally.
halos101
I miss the Kotchman days
Bart
I’m not trying to be funny, but I wish the Angels would release Pujols. They have to pay him anyway and he is an anchor around their neck.
houkenflouken
If you’re going to pay him anyway, why not use his bat as dh? Above average
soggycereal
hardly
Bart
Because his metrics are horrible and we can find someone better. And less injury prone. And can play in the field. We are playing with a man handicap.
angelsinthetroutfield
I like LoMo even at a $12m AAV but Cron would obviously have to go. And TBH I really don’t know what he’d fetch if anything. Possible non-tender?
halos101
he’s not an above average hitter anymore
agentx
Yes, Cron is a definite non-tender candidate. Way too many equal or better 1B available and very little demand for such players.
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Michael Chaney
I️ really hope the Indians can bring Santana back. He’s long been one of my favorites; he can be really inconsistent and tries to do too much sometimes, but whoever signs him is getting a hell of a player. I’d take him over Hosmer any day of the week, especially when considering the contracts they’ll both likely get.
Mattimeo09
Your last point at the end is probably why Cleveland won’t get him back. On the plus side, Cleveland will net a high draft pick at the end of Round 1 and will (hopefully) only need to find a short time replacement to cover first until Bradley is ready in 2019
Michael Chaney
A few weeks ago I definitely expected Santana to return, but at this point I’m expecting him to move on. It definitely makes sense to let him walk (get the draft pick, get a cheap stopgap for Bradley, save money to try re-signing Miller or Allen next offseason, etc.), but Santana is also one of the more consistent hitters in baseball and he’s a great fit in that lineup.
Mattimeo09
Agree with everything. Santana is a great hitter to plug into a lineup, but having two aging 1B/DH locked in for 3 years while Bradley waits isn’t ideal
Polish Hammer
Not sold on Bradley as the solution.
antsmith7
Vogelbach is not the answer trust me
Priggs89
Vogelbach is a young stud and future star.
Oh, wait. He’s not with the Cubs anymore? Never mind. Carry on.
lesterdnightfly
Trade him to the Braves. He’ll immediately become a can’t-miss prospect, per their fans.
angels fan 3
Lol
redsoxu571
Lots of talk about Stanton, Martinez, Hosmer, and even Santana for Boston, but sign me up for Morrison. Because his success is only recent, his cost should be reduced relative to the other bats, and he wouldn’t trigger any lost draft picks. Meanwhile, he still brings upside to the table, especially considering that he was WAY better on the road than at home the past two seasons, so heading to Fenway might give him quite a boost.
bucknerforhall
Not 1 team of 30 would have made Morrison a qualifying offer.
Stop mentioning that.
He’s in the same bucket with Kris Davis, Chris Carter, etc
( non tender guys)
Steve Adams
Jeremy Hellickson, Brett Anderson, Colby Rasmus, Matt Wieters and Ian Kennedy have gotten qualifying offers coming off markedly worse seasons than the one Morrison just wrapped up.
There are absolutely teams that would have made him a qualifying offer, and he doesn’t come close to falling into the Carter bucket.
Carter gave away 35% of his PAs in 2016 by way of strikeout or infield pop-up. Morrison was down at 27% last year — a difference of 40 to 50 additional plate appearances over a full season in which he’s putting a ball into play. His career strikeout rate is 14 percent lower than Carter’s.
He’s also been at least a passable defender at first for much of his career and is on the larger side of the platoon.
Khris Davis isn’t a non-tender candidate, either.
bucknerforhall
Oooh – I love the retort. Steve
And I love the site – & you guys do a great job
BUT – Ill play devils advocate here & respectfully disagree.
He IS in the same basket as the market for this year at 1b:
Yonder Alonso (31)
Lucas Duda (32)
Adam Lind (34)
Mitch Moreland (32)
Mike Napoli (36)
Mark Reynolds (34)
Danny Valencia (33)
Theres no way a team – (Any) team makes a QO to Morrison for 17 mil
when there is a Plethora of similar type players available. Id bet you a nice steak dinner (1) that None of the above players gets a 3 year deal, that (2) none of the above gets an AAV over 12 mil.
And – how many guys hit over 30 HR? It means nothing. Its the new batting average – doesnt matter – lots of guys can “run” into 30 hr at a cheap contract.
Furthermore – this year is his outlier. Whatever you want to look at
OPS, OPS+, WAR, total bases – this year is the outlier, and
the combination of the available 1B & the fact hes never but up these numbers
again – respectfully – Not 1 team based on his history & the market would give him the QO.
Nick4747
I agree with Steve teams would have offered him the qo. If not for the rays being a small market team they might’ve as well the names you mentioned didn’t have great years outside of Alonso (Reynolds gets hampered by the Coors effect). The red sox for instance a team that needs power and have been mentioned as a fit for everyone with power would jump @ the idea of giving Morrison one year deal @ even that high of an aav.
NOPelicanFangirl696969
Um napoli and lind are terrible defensive and have little to no power, valencia is trash, moreland isnt a power hitter. Duda and alonso are the only comparable players and even then morrison out played them both. Reynolds is a lh platoon id bet
agentx
I like Morrison to KC if they’re willing to let Hosmer walk and still spend on a 1B.
Net effect would be Morrison plus the pick KC would get when Hosmer signed elsewhere.
cygnus2112
Agreed! It almost seem too logical…
Realtexan
The Red Soxs either need to bring back Mitch Moreland or sign Mike Napoli
dynamite drop in monty
Do they?
MafiaBass
No. No. No. No. No.
quicsilver
Santana in pinstripes would look nice, he could DH or fill in on birdies days off…
sufferforsnakes
No it wouldn’t.
quicsilver
Well I’m sure it wouldn’t if your a Indians fan.
matthew102402
What do you mean? He would look great next to the Space Needle.
lesterdnightfly
By “pinstripes”, I know you mean the Yankees, but FWIW, at least seven MLB teams wear pinstripes. The Cubs started it in 1907.
quicsilver
Good to know
28yanks
That’s why, when i mention the Yanks…i always say the “famous Pinstripes.”
Mattimeo09
More like “pretentious pinstripes”
28yanks
In the last 95 years, 40 Pennant flags…and 27 World series wins!
No pretending there.. Alice! Sorry, if your Butt hurt. LMAO!
Michael Chaney
Ehhh that’s a sight I’d rather not see
justin-turner overdrive
Segura
Cain
Santana
Cano
Cruz
Seager
Haniger
…is a really good top 7 of the order. If they can get Cain and Santana they get an A+ this winter.
matthew102402
I could bet my house that it won’t be Cano at cleanup, Cruz at the 5, and Seager at the 6. But, I agree, putting Cain and Santana (to me doesn’t seem that likely but I’ve been wrong many times before, unfortunately) in that lineup makes it deadly. If they end up getting both, expect this: Segura, Cain, Cano, Cruz, Seager, Santana, Zunino, Haniger, Gamel.
24TheKid
Cain, Segura, Cano, Cruz, Haniger, Santana, Seager, Zunino, Gamel would be my choice. You could switch Cain and Segura. Segura doesn’t walk much, but it seems like he puts it in play wherever it’s thrown every at bat so I think that would make him a good two hitter.
And if we got both Santana and Cain I also think we should resign Dyson to play center, and move Gamel as he’s not nearly as good defensively as Dyson, while his value is probably as high as it will ever be.
Cain, Dyson, Haniger would not only be great defensively, but really good offensively. And then sign or trade for another starter, and I think that would make the best team possible with what we have.
sgtpain20
I think Dyson has some speed and he’s a great defender but he can’t hit…I’d rather keep Gamel, Sign Cain, and lock down Haniger to a 7-10 yr deal
ayrbhoy
Lorenzo Cain and Carlos Santana would be amazing and it’s not even Thanksgiving yet so I get that we’re playing the “what if?” game, but, if we’re going to spend money on a couple of good free agents I’d much rather we spend it on Alex Cobb and Lance Lynn- 1. Paxton 2. Felix 3. Cobb 4. Lynn 5. Leake
impapad17
How about one of each… Lance Lynn and Carlos Santana, and resign Dyson. Here’s my lineup
1) Segura (SS)
2) Santana (1B)
3) Cano (2B)
4) Cruz (DH)
5) Seager (3B)
6) Haniger (RF)
7) Gamel (LF)
8) Zunino (C)
9) Dyson/Heredia (CF)
(1) Paxton 2) Lynn 3) Hernandez 4)
impapad17
Starters… Paxton, Lynn, Hernandez, Leake, Gonzales/Ramirez
matthew102402
To be honest, I’m hoping Marco gets moved this offseason. Not because he didn’t do well for the M’s after the trade, but the fact that he, and Erasmo are out of options, it complicates things further if the Mariners opt to improve their bullpen this offseason. Looking at it now, the locks are Edwin Diaz, Tony Zych, David Phelps, Marc Rzepczynski, and Nick Vincent. The possible “lock” could be James Pazos, but we’ll see. Getting a lefty wouldn’t be a terrible thing, to be honest. Marco is a lefty, yeah, but, not the type of lefty the Mariners really need. Just, with Marco, he limits the variety of things we can do with the pitching staff, in my opinion.
sgtpain20
And wouldn’t really need a lefty once Smyly gets healthy
sgtpain20
I think it would be better looking like:
Segura
Seagar
Cano
Cruz
Santana
Haniger
Gamel
Zunino
Cain
agentx
OK, everyone… who do you think Santana’s suitors are if there are in fact ten (10) teams pursuing him?
CLE, BOS, LAA, SEA, TOR, and maybe STL are the most obvious to me. Who am I forgetting?
TheBoatmen
TOR has Smoak for this season. Their priority would not be 1B. I would add KC.
agentx
I forgot how socked in Morales and Smoak are at 1B up in TOR. KC is a good call if they miss out on Hosmer after a serious run could definitely compete.
seamaholic 2
COL for certain. They’ll pick up one of the lefty 1B on the market.
agentx
You figure that would lock Desmond in as a nearly full-time LF, with Blackmon in CF and Dahl in RF and Parra backing up all three spots?
Coast1
Steve, perhaps you should link to one of the articles where Matt Klentak says the Phillies aren’t interested in a free agent hitter. It completely contradicts Heyman. I don’t see the Phillies dumping Aaron Altherr so they can sign Carlos Santana and play Rhys Hoskins at a position he’s weak at.
Jeff Todd
I can add a link, but tried to throw cold water on the idea in the post already. It doesn’t seem very sensible to me, either.
philsphan1979
How does Santana and the Phillies even make one bit of sense? Hoskins was terrible in the OF last season. I know they moved Burrell to the OF from 1B and it seemed to work, and they turned them into a championship team. The other options I can think of is Hoskins is trade bait (hopefully not involving Stanton), OR they plan on converting Santana back to a catchers role, and trading Alfaro and Other prospects for A guy like Archer, or Stroeman
ericl
Santana to the Phillies makes zero sense. Hoskins is a good first baseman & a terrible outfielder. Also, the Phillies have a lot of young outfielders as it is. They have Herrera, Alther, Williams, Perkins & Quinn. Why throw Hoskins into that mix?
met man
As a Met fan,I would love to see Santana at first base.But I realize with this ownership,its highly unlikely.Wish the Wilpons would Sell!
vinscully16
Sox should pass on both Morrison and Santana.
MafiaBass
This right here. Giving them anything more than 3/36 is a massive overpay. They will not earn that money if they sign with Boston.
Priggs89
I’m not sure on the WAR/$ figures we’re using these days, but I don’t see any way that a contract more than 3/36 would be a “massive overpay” for a player that will put up 3+ WAR every year with 20+ homers and nearly as many walks as strikeouts.