Though Greg Holland turned down his $15MM player option and will also reject his $17.4MM qualifying offer, it’s not yet a foregone conclusion that his Denver days are in the past, writes FanRag’s Jon Heyman. The Rockies “believe that Holland is the right leader” for their young pitching staff and will seek to re-sign him to a more lucrative multi-year offer, per Heyman. They will, of course, face a fair bit of competition in that pursuit. Heyman lists the Cubs and Cardinals as teams that will possibly be in the market for Holland this offseason as well.
A few more early notes on the free agent market…
- Jay Bruce’s camp is reportedly setting its sights high and asking for a five-year deal worth $80-90MM, ESPN’s Jerry Crasnick reported yesterday. High asking price notwithstanding, Heyman reports today in his weekly notes column that the Blue Jays, Giants, Mariners and Cardinals are four potential landing spots for Bruce in free agency. Heyman notes that Bruce should be able to comfortably land a three-year commitment that could price him out of the comfort zones of the Mets and the Indians.
- Free agent first baseman Logan Morrison told Jon Morosi and Jim Duquette in an appearance on MLB Network Radio on SiriusXM today that playing for his hometown Royals “would be a dream come true.” (Twitter link, with audio) Morrison fondly recalls trips to Kauffman Stadium with his father as a child and says it would be “amazing” to be able to have his grandmother come to the park and watch him play regularly in 2018. “All of that stuff would be fun,” said Morrison, “but we’ll see what happens.” The 30-year-old Morrison, meanwhile, hit .246/.353/.516 with a career-high 38 home runs in a breakout campaign with Tampa Bay this past season. Despite that huge year, he didn’t receive a qualifying offer from the Rays and therefore won’t be tied to draft pick compensation. Kansas City will have a void at first base if Eric Hosmer leaves elsewhere, though Heyman notes in the aforementioned notes column that Hosmer is still the Royals’ top priority (at least among their own impending free agents). If he signs elsewhere, the Royals would recoup a draft pick — likely at the end of the first round.
- Right-hander Brandon Morrow also appeared on MLB Network Radio today, stating that “all things being equal,” he’d prefer to return to the Dodgers (Twitter link, with audio). Morrow specified that at age 33, he’d prefer to sign with a contending team, noting that he doesn’t necessarily care about pitching as a closer versus pitching in a setup capacity. Morrow raved about the young talent and clubhouse on the Dodgers, noting that the team is poised to be a contender for years to come — a highly appealing factor to him (and other free agents). Though perhaps we shouldn’t read too much into his comments, Morrow did note that “to be able to hopefully in that for three to four years … it’s definitely an attractive situation.” Morrow does indeed seem to have a strong case for a multi-year deal after a return to prominence in L.A. this past season. We pegged him for a three-year, $24MM contract on last week’s ranking of the game’s top 50 free agents.
- Susan Slusser of the San Francisco Chronicle reports that Ichiro Suzuki’s agent, John Boggs, has already reached out to the Athletics to try to pitch his client’s services. Slusser the chat between the two sides as “brief,” noting that it was based on Ichiro’s relationship with A’s manager Bob Melvin, who managed Ichiro more than a decade ago. There does not appear to be a fit, she notes, though Boggs tells Slusser that Ichiro “has the ultimate desire to play” in 2018. Heyman noted in the aforementioned notes column that the Marlins did not make an offer to the 44-year-old Ichiro before declining his $2MM option.
frankiegxiii
Hosmer or Morrison fondly recalls trips to Kauffman?
Geebs
You couldn’t infer from context? obviously it’s LoMo they refer to and it’s just a miss type.
frankiegxiii
Uhhh yes I can infer from context, just letting him know about it and it was changed. I’m sorry you got your panties in a bunch over me pointing out the mistake
sb29
Hey, you said hosmer would like to play for his hometown royals, but I think you meant Morrison.
EndinStealth
Captain Obvious to the rescue.
The Oregonian
LoMo and the draft pick compensation for letting Hosmer walk would make a lot more sense for the Royals than bringing Hosmer back. Plus with the money they saved from that maybe they could bring back one of Cain or Moustakas.
Geebs
It says right in the article that Hosmer is not tied to draft pick compensation.
bross16
Yes he is
redsguy44
how would he not be tied to drive pick compensation? He was extended a qualifying offer
redsguy44
he was extended a qualifying offer therefore he has draft pick compensation attached to him
Jean Matrac
The article says Morrison isn’t tied to draft-pick compensation; not Hosmer.
kam3hameha
You should re-read the article. Reading Comprehension 101. It specifically says that Logan Morrison will not be tied to a compensatory draft pick (due to the Rays not extending a qualifying offer), Hosmer on the other hand is in fact tied to draft pick compensation.
Geebs
Originally it did not, originally it stated that both LoMo and Hosmer aren’t connected to compensation and now it’s changed, reading comprehension 101 wouldn’t help with the information being reported wrong (obvious oversight is all) so your condescending keyboard hero attitude isn’t necessary, humanity 101.
EndinStealth
And your condescending keyboard attitude was?
kam3hameha
Sorry, I wasn’t meaning it like that and I wasn’t trying to be rude. I was just joking, but it’s hard to convey that in text form. Apologies.
Geebs
Touche
timyanks
humanity 101? i think you must mean humility 101.
Connorsoxfan
This is what I was thinking. Or instead of Cain and Moustakas, take 2 more picks, since I think they got QO’d, and sign Nunez and an outfielder. 3 more first rounders, and you’re still fielding a decent team.
Howard-NY13
I wanna SEe ichiro play
simschifan
It makes no sense for the Cubs to go after Holland and not just pay a closer they have that is better.
RonTrauma 2
Carl Edwards Jr.?
EndinStealth
Davis
simschifan
Edwards will not close. Or at least I hope not.
jorleeduf
Davis isn’t a Cub anymore
jimmertee
If the Jay’s Atkins and Shapiro sign Bruce if they are smart it should be only for 1 or 2 years. Bruce is okay but his addition will not help them win a championship. They need to0 much to fill out the roster to make it championship quality unless they are willing to buy a #1 starter, a #3 starter, 2nd baseman, shortstop, right field, shut down lefty reliever and a 1/2 time catcher who can call and game and hit.
seamaholic 2
Davis will be much more expensive.
Logjammer D"Baggagecling
They need to call up Joe Carter.
rogercopes
Whoever signs Otani should sign Ichiro immediately the next day. Bench presence + excellent mentor, would help greatly with Otani’s transition
mlb1225
Plus, it wouldn’t cost them very much to get Ichiro, and he provides good baserunning, and fielding still.
JaysFan19
Blue Jays could use Ichiro
jimmertee
I would love to see Ichiro as a Blue Jays. He doesn’t have much left in the tank but he is a bonafide Hall of Famer and you don’t get the chance to see those guys very often on the hometeam.
mlb fan
With his history of injury and the way he was overused this past postseason, any team that gives Brandon Morrow 3 guranteed years ought to have their collective head examined…….He is a good relief pitcher, but I have him getting a 2 year deal, perhaps with a makeable 3rd year option based on appearances and health…..
jimmertee
I watched Brandon Morrow for years as a BlueJay both as a starter and in relief. Last year was an aberation. His longterm health prospects are highly suspect.
Jean Matrac
As a Giant’s fan, I would be extremely unhappy if they sign Bruce to anything close to 5/80-90. Especially since they’ve already said they want better defenders in the OF. With Span supposedly moving to LF, not only does that make CF a priority, but leaves only the very spacious RF for Bruce. And being a LHH means he probably won’t hit at AT&T like he would elsewhere.
Solaris601
MLB Network is reporting that Cubs and Giants are discussing a deal that would send Jason Heyward to SF for Samarzdija and Melancon. I could see why both sides would want to make that trade, but Heyward won’t do much to boost the Giants’ sagging offense. I gotta think Maddon is prob pushing for Heyward to be dealt since he’s basically platooning him.
Jean Matrac
I hope that’s not true. Heyward’s contract is one of the worst in baseball, and as you point out, isn’t going to provide the power they need.
On the other side of it, Samardzija is a durable innings eater that would need to be replaced. Unless they’re sure that Blach, Stratton, and Beede, can contribute in a big way, which I don’t see, it doesn’t make sense to me. Melancon is the only one I can see them moving.
themed
Ain’t gonna happen
simschifan
Jed Hoyer said it’s not true but who knows.
Logjammer D"Baggagecling
That would literally top the Milton Bradley signing. No one want Samardzija. Wade Davis is way better than Mark Melancon.
If you’re gonna trade Heyward at least get a good pitcher back. I’d take R.A. Dickey before taking back Samardzija
brucewayne
I think the Cubs would get the best end of that deal. Get rid of that horrible Heyward contract
brucewayne
and get back a starter
brucewayne
and a closer who Hickey can help get back on track !
Logjammer D"Baggagecling
Bradley’s contract was a lot worse than Jason Heyward. Prior to Hendry signing Milton Bradley. He never spent more than 2 years with any team. 9 teams in 10 years. Maybe it was 10 teams in 11 years.
Alfonso Soriano, Derek Lee and aramis Ramirez were all pretty bad deals too. Heywards is bad. I’d rather be stuck with 6 more years from him than 4 years of Samardzija being under .500. He should retire from baseball. And go try out for the bears or colts
RealHalSteinbrenner
We move Ellsbury for a mid level prospect and eat half his contract to Seattle, sign Otani, Ichiro as 5thOF / DH / Mentor bench coach/batting instructor
We already have Tanaka’s translator…..
Done deal
Jean Matrac
Why would Seattle take Ellsbury even with the NYYs paying half the contract? They could do better than to commit 3 years and $32m to a health risk like Ellsbury. Face it; the Yanks are stuck with him.
jeremytk42
Because the Mariners are the Cleveland Browns of baseball and this is the type of move they like to make…..
Jean Matrac
Really? How about an example of a similar bone-headed move? Every team makes mistakes, and I’m sure the M’s have made their share, but one of this magnitude seems unlikely.
jeremytk42
You’re kidding right? How many characters is allowed on posts?
jeremytk42
ARE allowed on posts…not “is”…..I am so smrt
24TheKid
So are you going to give any examples?
Jean Matrac
No I’m not kidding. Not following the M’s that closely I would like to see if there are in fact moves as egregiously bad as trading for Ellsbury, even with the Yanks paying half.
You’re not dodging the question are you?
sgtpain20
I’d like to see Lorenzo Cain in Seatown..along with Santana, #1 Starter, and better relief.
jeremytk42
Dude…you can’t be serious right? You need me to actually give examples of the many, many, many idiotic moves this organization has made over the years? Come on man, you’re name is 24TheKid so clearly you could name a ton. Here are a few examples off the top of my head, you’ll know what I mean without listing the exact trades/signings….
Alex Jackson
Adam Jones (the absolute worst of them all)
Asdrubal Cabrera (for a DH who retired the next year)
Shin Soo-Choo (for the other side of the DH who retired the next year)
Omar Vizquel
Jason Varitek
Chone Figgins
Tyler O’Neil
Bryan Hernandez
The Lazinson Cano singing
Chris Taylor
Joe Borchard
Danny Hultzen (this was pretty much the last straw for me)
Luiz Gohara
Throwing Felix a massive amount of innings early in his career on terrible teams
Let’s not forget the resistance for the SODO arena they had against my beloved Sonics….
I could keep going but football is on…
I can’t believe anyone would be shocked if they landed an over the hill injury prone Jacoby Ellsbury…..
jeremytk42
Ah man how could I forget about the Carlos Silva signing!
jeremytk42
See below man. Wasn’t slamming ya at all either.
dshires4
Alex Jackson is where? Oh in the minors? K. Call me when he matters in MLB, then we’ll discuss the merits.
Adam Jones: not this front office, irrelevant.
Varitek, Figgins, Vizquel weren’t this front office either.
Tyler ONiell has contact problems and we got a former first round pick that has 5 more years of team control? Sounds like the jury is still out.
Bryan Hernandez? See: Jackson, Alex. Jury will be out for a long time. He’s unproven and raw.
The Cano signing? It’s working out just fine thus far.
Chris Taylor SUCKED for the Mariners. Kudos to the Dodgers for polishing a turd and turning it into a diamond. Can’t fault the Mariners for giving up on a guy that looked like he had zero future in the majors.
Joe Borchard, not this front office. Man, you sure do like digging up old stuff. You’re like my Labrador retriever.
Danny Hultzen was a bad draft pick by a previous front office regime. Much like my lab, you’re digging up old stuff.
Luiz Gohara: YOUR FIRST GOOD POINT! I disagree with the Mariners on this so much.
Throwing Felix? What were we supposed to do, limit him to 100 innings for the first 8 years of his career? We handled Felix with the most care imaginable. That’s why he was relatively injury free for a DECADE.
Forget your Sonics.
We would be insanely shocked if we landed Ellsbury if we had to pay more than 17 cents per year. Your logic is faulty and it shows that you aren’t a real Mariners fan, Labrador retriever.
jeremytk42
And the biggest example of all: 40 years, four playoff appearances…
jeremytk42
You must be related to a dude I know who called someone “care bear” as an “insult”
If you’re angry about my opinion, you might want to get some help. I’m not slamming anyone and for people who for some inexplicable reason gets pissy on these posts, I should’ve clarified my statement: I was speaking of the Mariner organization in its entire existence. And you are correct: I’m no longer a Mariner fan, I’m a lifetime baseball fan that finds his hometown organization laughable. And one who still can make comments based on my opinion of what I’ve witnessed over the years.
Sincerely,
Old Yeller
Jean Matrac
@jeremytk42: As suspected your list is completely lame. You cannot blame Dipoto for what his predecessors did.
@dshires4: good work completely shutting down that fallacious argument.
jeremytk42
And yes Chris Taylor absolutely sucked here, no question. But I honestly believe a big reason players who don’t work out here and move to new teams and have success is due to the shoddy baseball people here in Seattle. Coaches on other teams seem to have a knack of fixing swings, making pitching adjustments, etc…obviously this happens to other teams too but again, when you’ve had very little success in 40 years, it’s hard to not see things like this..
Jean Matrac
You’ve drifted off point from the original assertion that the M’s would not take Ellsbury off the Yank’s hands, and your contention that they would. The fact that Jack Zduriencik, or some other previous GM might have is irrelevant. I stand by my original take that Dipoto will probably not be that stupid, past blunders or not.
jeremytk42
Years of massive frustration over your hometown mine will do that to ya man…..
jeremytk42
Nine….
nste23
Some of your guys comments are longer than my AP exams
mlb fan
I was one of the people who thought that the seattle mariners hiring Jerry Dipoto was a good move and it may still work out yet. But giving Chris Taylor less than 100 ABs combined over his last 2 yrs in Seattle is not enough to really see what a guy can do……That has to go on Jerry Dipoto when Taylor looks like a sparkplug for the Dodger offense for years to come……
timyanks
smrt? eh?
cade 2
the mariners are good they have a good outfield
mlb fan
The Mariners really need starting pitching……They already have a top 5 mlb type offense in my opinion but their starters will require them to score 5-6 runs every night to win games….
24TheKid
Why do Yankee fans think the Mariners would want Ellsburry?
mlb fan
Fans are always hopeful that someone else wants their older, injury prone players……
Phil253
LoMo with the breakout .248BA season… this is how far our game has fallen… yeah..
mateodh
Drink!
oct27
You’re just going to ignore the OBP and SLG?
wiggysf
(And 38 homers and a good OBP and a good SLG translating to a good OPS)
SundownDevil
Do you believe the earth is flat? Just curious is all.
jeremytk42
@Phil253….yeah man, absolutely agree.
whereslou
Hawks had a lot of bad years until they got a good owner and good front office and coach. It takes a bit longer to turn a BB team around but there are reasons to believe this team is going on the right direction. Taking on an OFer at this time is not in their plans. They need 1 more OFer but short term. Ellsbury would make zero sense for them. He wouldn’t play over the 3 they have now and would be making too much money sitting on the bench. The many failures of the team is like not liking the Hawks because of their past failures but liking them now because they are successful.
Caseys Partner
Are the “Hawks” an independent league team?
mlb1225
I’ll take a guy who bats 248, but with 38 homeruns, 85 RBI’s, gets on base, and has a 516 slugging % with ok defense any day. Batting average isn’t everything.
Phil253
Ok.. flash in the pan hitting 38 dingers or has anyone forgotten how “awesome” Trumbo is? No different here. And yes BA is important unless you just want to be mediocre… Nelson Cruz is the type of hitter LoMo should aspire to be. Look at how many singles he hit over homers and how many times he was actually on base. So if the guy gets a huge contract for hitting 38 dingers then good on him, but it’s not going to hold up.
mlb1225
You’re comparing a guy who can’t get on base, to a guy who does get on base.
Logjammer D"Baggagecling
I like Greg Holland but wade Davis fit perfectly with the cubs. Besides Zo and Lester and Koji who was the oldest. He was one of 4 players in their 30s.
astros_fan_84
I hope Ichiro gets a deal, but it’s just as likely that he goes back to Japan.
SundownDevil
Or Mexico. If he wants to keep playing, he won’t be able to be picky. Be like Julio Franco; go play in some foreign countries and come back when he’s 47.
cardfan2011
Davis or Holland in the Cards bullpen would help tremendously, hope one of em goes to the Cards
Kane U.
I hope Ichiro can find some work. The guy is a class act and at 44 can still play some quality ball.
antsmith7
When are we going to see some action?
oldyank55
Breakout or breakin as in breaking into the medicine cabinet? Looks like he had 2 good seasons this year.
jimmertee
As I have wrote elsewhere, economics of baseball are about to change dramatically. Right now MLB is flush with cash. But we can see by the ESPN subscription numbers that is about to change. I beleive that ESPN is an indicator of what is to come, Paid subscriptions are tumbling through the floor. ESPN will be laying off another 100 ppl soon. The economic forecast of baseball cable and advertising revenues and sports in general are at a peak and about to tumble hard. That means alot that cable money, MLB.com money and advertising money will dry up. Once that happens most of the huge deals will go away. The only question is when this will happen not if it will happen; it is coming.
Some teams know this are are planning for it, some teams don’t have a clue. It depends on the ownership and their mandate to the baseball people.
So projecting these big contracts to continue is not accurate. It cannot happen as many are writing. it may take a few years for this situation to manifest in contracts, but it will. Good teams will confine their contracts to as short a term as they can get, not because they are cheap, becuase they realize that fiancial structural changes in the game itself are coming and not for the better.