Now that the Yankees have wrapped up a successful 2017 season, the attention can shift fully to their efforts in 2018. Well, mostly. This is the era of responsible stewardship in the Bronx, so at least one eye will surely also train its gaze to the horizon.
As the team ponders its options at third base, then, it won’t simply be a matter of deciding which top free agent or trade candidate is best. On the face of things, the team is losing its third bagger to free agency and must find a replacement. And, indeed, mid-season acquisition Todd Frazier is headed to the open market. For a Yankees team that’s primed to compete, that could mean its time to add a star. But there’s more at play here, making for a particularly interesting situation.
First, GM Brian Cashman has made clear that the Yankees’ payroll will not top $197MM. The Yanks are finally determined to get under the luxury tax line and seem quite committed to doing so. Given its slate of existing commitments, and assuming the team pays the full amount projected for all of its arbitration-eligible players, it will have just under $145MM committed and the bulk of the roster accounted for. After accounting for pre-arb salaries and the standard medical and other employment allocations, the organization could have something in the realm of $35MM to play with — perhaps a bit more, if some of Jacoby Ellsbury’s salary can be moved — though the front office may also need to keep some powder dry for mid-season moves. While that’s still a healthy amount of wiggle room, since the Yanks will return quite a few key pieces, it creates some real constraints.
Second, it’s worth bearing in mind that next year’s free agent class offers some extremely exciting possibilities. Among the many superstars hitting the open market, barring extensions, will be Manny Machado and Josh Donaldson — two of the game’s very best third baggers. Two others, Nolan Arenado and Anthony Rendon, will reach free agency in the ensuing winter. It’s difficult to structure near-term decisions around such hypothetical opportunities, of course, but the possibility of landing a star performer in the relatively near future could weigh in favor of some restraint on this year’s market.
Third, the Yankees may well actually already have their next stud already lined up. Gleyber Torres seemed on the verge of a call-up this past summer before going down to season-ending surgery. He’s expected to be prepared for a full and complete spring. But he’ll enter camp just a few months removed from his 21st birthday. Though the much-hyped prospect carried a .863 OPS at both the Double-A and Triple-A levels in 2017, those 235 plate appearances represent the full sum of his upper-minors experience. He’s not even the only quality prospect that could be in position; Miguel Andujar was also excellent in the upper minors last year and even enjoyed a brief but exciting MLB debut.
Fourth, the Yanks may also already have a perfectly useful immediate option on hand. Chase Headley was dispossessed of the job at third when the team added Frazier. But he ended up turning in his best full season at the plate since re-signing with New York. The switch hitter did not grade out positively with the glove at third, but perhaps there’s still reason to believe he can play palatable defense entering his age-34 season. Notably, as has typically been the case throughout his career, Headley was particularly effective against right-handed pitching, posting a sturdy .279/.374/.405 slash line. That makes him a fairly easy player to platoon, perhaps increasing the universe of possibilities as Cashman weighs his options.
So, just what are Cashman’s options?
As always, it’s possible to imagine the team simply going out and signing the best available player in free agency. This year’s market is led by Mike Moustakas, the 29-year-old slugger. His profile is similar to that of Frazier: good power, generally solid glovework (though his metrics slipped in 2017), and on-base struggles. Frazier himself is another possibility, of course, and ought to be available on a shorter term and perhaps at a lower annual salary than will be required to land Moustakas. Those two likely represent the universe of plausible starters, however, unless Zack Cozart is willing to change positions (and teams like the Yankees show interest in trying him at third).
On the trade market, it’s really not yet clear what might be possible. Machado and Donaldson would be major prizes, but the Orioles and Blue Jays have given hints that they won’t be selling either player. (And they’d be especially hesitant to allow them to go to the Yankees, surely.) Eugenio Suarez is a controllable piece coming off of a nice year, an perhaps he could be had for the right price, but it’ll be steep. Adrian Beltre would make for a nice target, but the Rangers aren’t likely to deal him. The Cardinals may have a bit of an infield logjam, potentially freeing Jedd Gyorko or Matt Carpenter, but it’s not yet clear how they’ll proceed. Maikel Franco could conceivably be dangled by the Phillies, though perhaps taking a shot on a talented but inconsistent young player isn’t the right approach at this stage.
Acquiring a new regular would mean not only paying a hefty acquisition price, but also figuring out what to do with Headley. He could be traded, but that would likely mean paying down some of his $13MM salary. Committing to a player such as Moustakas may not be all that desirable given New York’s excellent young options. Plus, his on-base woes come with real risk. Even Frazier could prove a questionable investment and inflexible asset, though at least he’d pair more naturally with Headley and first baseman Greg Bird and wouldn’t require such a lengthy commitment. While the trade side is worth considering, it’s also entirely up in the air at this point. Regardless, if the Yankees are going to make a big move at third — potentially blocking Torres — then perhaps it ought to be saved for next winter.
Under the circumstances, then, the Yanks might be better-served by looking instead at a platoon candidate with broader function. Yunel Escobar could provide a veteran accompaniment to Headley, though perhaps he’ll prefer to join a team that’s willing to promise him more playing time. The versatile Eduardo Nunez might be an interesting option for New York, as he’d also offer some insurance elsewhere around the diamond while upgrading over Ronald Torreyes as the primary utilityman. Asdrubal Cabrera might also make sense if his option is declined (or even if he’s dangled in trade) by the cross-town Mets.
On the trade market, possible options to join Headley at third while also seeing action elsewhere could include Josh Harrison — who’d have the highest acquisition cost and would perhaps take primary duty at the job — as well as Jed Lowrie, Logan Forsythe, David Freese, and old friend Yangervis Solarte (the player dealt to acquire Headley). Nicholas Castellanos and Martin Prado are among other possible trade targets, but the former doesn’t seem to have the glove for third and the latter is coming off of a poor and injury-riddled campaign, though as with Solarte he’s a player the Yankees know well.
That largely covers the array of outside options. Of course, it’s conceivable too that the Yanks will essentially just return the job to Headley while awaiting the mid-season arrival of its youngsters (Torres, in particular) and utilize the existing financial resources to address other areas of need. How do you see things playing out? (Link for app users.)
timyanks
matt carpenter would look good in any other uniform. headley to st louis would work, but not if gyorko is involved.
CompanyAssassin
Keep Headley, take Carp.
Benklasner
Would rather trade jedd any day and bring backa bullpen arm.
NuckBobFutting
Carpenter and some for Donaldson, and then sign Hosmer
Geebs
To what end for the jays exactly? If they trade Donaldson, which they have been very clear that they have no intentions of doing without upgrading the 2018 team for Carpenter and some, how does this help the jays either this year or in the future? Teams don’t just get to cherry pick the players on other teams and give up whatever they want and the other team would be happy to oblige. If the jays are going to decide to rebuild they won’t want carpenter “and some” for their best player, it would require a lot of prospect capital. When it comes to hypothetical trades maybe you should turn your f’ing brain on.
cards4141
I understand that people dislike part of Carp’s game, but he’s a really good lead off hitter. A terrible base runner and a subpar defender anywhere but 1b, but an elite on-base guy. I’m not saying they shouldn’t trade him, but he’s worth more than a bucket of balls or a reliever
davidcoonce74
A terrible baserunner? Explain
davidcoonce74
Because according to Fangraphs, Carpenter is only a slightly below average baserunner, costing his team less than a run last year, which is offset easily by his insane ability to avoid hitting into double plays. Look it up. The guy literally almost never hits into a double play. The net result on his baserunning RC is positive.
cards4141
He has a negative BsR the last two years. -3.1 and -0.1. While that’s not the end of the world, it’s pretty terrible for a lead off hitter
davidcoonce74
But he was worth a net positive on the bases, right? In terms of runs created? If I’m reading the numbers correctly, because his preternatural ability to avoid double plays creates more run-scoring opportunities.
pinstripes7
I say Miguel Andujar.
xabial
I posted this in the “Yankees Notes: Girardi, Holliday, Frazier” article on Oct 22, written by Connor. It took two days two days to post because it was awaiting moderation. (Don’t you hate when that happens? 😉 )
Anyways, tired of hearing this garbage, that Frazier isn’t an elite defender. So here are some stats to back it up. He’ll a lot of HR’s, and career high 83 walks but his true skill lies in his defense.
Among all third basemen in MLB, Todd Frazier is ranked:
Second best UZR/150 (9.7)
Third best UZR (6.7)
Third best Def (8.6)
Third best RngR (3.0)
Third best DPR (1.3)
Fourth best: Defensive Runs Saved (10)
And he passes the eye test. Defense is his calling card.
link to fangraphs.com
xabial
Frazier isn’t a star, because of that meddlesome average, but his elite defense at the hot corner, deserves awknowledgement. The Home Runs and walks are icing on the cake.
Unlike other Yankee fans ready to throw him away, He will be missed. Todd really enjoyed his time with the Yankees, repeaditly said he wants to come back, but at the end of the day, I understand it’s a business.. If another team offers him a 4 year deal, I think (sadly) he’s a goner.
Yanks have options at 3B. Their names are Chase Headley the safety net and Gleyber Torres, one of the best prospects in baseball, but albeit unproven at MLB.
Eric F
I would love to keep the ToddFather really! But would he be willing to take a 2 year deal for less than what he would get on the open market? Probably not because why would he ultimately lose at least 8-12 million more in guaranteed money? I don’t think it will come down to the Yankees wanting him to stay as it is will he stay for their price. I love the guy. I hope he’s back but it’s going to be tough.
mlb1225
I agree with you on he’s good defensively, but I do not think it’s his calling card. I’d say power is his calling card over defense.
slider32
I love Frazier, but he isn;t as good as Donaldson, Arenado, and the like. Headley is under contract and the Yanks have the number 1 prospect Torres that they have to make room for next season. To sign Frazier the Yanks would have to move Headley 12 million, and move Castro, who also can play third, to make room for Torres. They also have a better hitter in Andujar coming up. Both of these guys have killed it in the minors. These guys are young and will be making minumum, which gives the Yanks more money for pitching which is what wins in baseball.
BSPORT
Ok Todd.
Will Glover
Bring back Todd Father!!! Honestly was such and under appreciated acquisition at the deadline.
start_wearing_purple
How did Todd Frazier get that nickname? Todd Helton had the nickname Toddfather, and it just seems like he got copied.
CompanyAssassin
He probably started to call himself that at some point, and people actually allowed it to catch on.
Benklasner
When you name is Todd there are not many options for great nicknames.
michael serra
the todd squad.. toddinator, invasion of the toddysnatcher,, The Todds are against you.
start_wearing_purple
By the same logic he could have had the nickname Smoking Todd Frazier.
JoeyPankake
The Great Toddbino, Toddzilla, Rowdy Toddy Piper, Hot Toddy, Toddstool,
cxcx
The Prince of Todds, Hot Todd Frazier, Todd Thumb, Todd and the Wet Sprocket, Todde Toddi Toddé
MZ311
Retodd
Benklasner
Todd and the wet sprocket is defintely the winner here. I concede the point.
timyanks
snot twood
leftykoufax
“And I’m getting real sick of guys named Todd”
Eric F
Toddy Toddy Piper!
BSPORT
Big head Todd and the baby bombers
xabial
He was a mentor to the other Frazier, recieved in the Miller deal,
(no relation, despite same last name) and apparently the two developed a bond.
Also, I believe Sterling coined it, but don’t quote me on that. I think “Todd father” was Sterling’s HR call. for Todd Frazier. Whether or not he started it, he definitely solidified it.
srechter
It’s from another in a long line of groan-worthy John Sterling home run calls.
simschifan
He had that nickname when he was on the reds
Out of place Met fan
It’s a Yankee world, everyone else is just minor league fodder.
What happened prior to or post Yankee time ceases to exist.
xabial
No I was was just misinformed. They really did build a bond.
Here’s a quote from Todd.
“If you’re going to have my last name and you’re younger than me and have two weeks in the show, you’re going to be my son.”
nytimes.com/2017/09/28/sports/todd-frazier-clint-f…
Todd’s a good dude.
I know you’re a Mets fan but there’s no need to be salty.
It’s a Yankee world? No it’s a Yankee article.
xabial
And a Yankee thread
Take it Easy Lol
costergaard2
John Sterling used to be so much fun to listen to, when he stuck to “it is high, it is far, it is gone,” and “ballgame over, Yankees win.” He ruined the radio with all of his stupid calls. He’s unlistenable. It’s infuriating = (
Eric F
Real story is he is from NJ and his favorite movie is, Take a wild guess guys…… Yes The Godfather! True story check it out.
etreuden
Just can’t see them going with anybody else but Headley/Torreyes/Minor League talent.
dellarocco72
Move Castro to third and put Gleyber Torres at 2B. Trade Headley,Torreyes and have Wade/Andujar as infield depth.
xabial
Castro was rated badly by defensive metrics at at 2B, I believe after he was even worse with the glove at SS.
Yankees traded for him, because they liked transition to 2B from SS during his time with the Cubs. (Passable with the glove at 2B)
Why would you try him at 3B, a position he’s not accustomed to?
michael serra
Castro used to be a SS. Moving him to 3B (back in the olden days) was what you did with your ss when his range deteriorated. Cal Ripken, alex rodriguez, etc. As long as they have the arm strength and reflexes, 3b comes more naturally for ss. Starlin to 3rd, Torres to 2b seems like a good move. Andujar back up at third.
xabial
Edit I didn’t mean to type “after” They def didn’t try him at SS from 2B specially with Didi’s play at SS.
I was referring to his SS play, Cub days. Either way, definitely I’d feel more comfortable if he went back SS (no chance in hell with Didi) than try 3B out 3B Haha.
xabial
Maybe it could work, just seems like it could be an adventure.. Because of his glove at 2B SS. (He’s better 2B)
I didn’t know that’s what they did in old days when range deteriorated. pretty cool!
If it’s not out of his comfort zone.. maybe
slider32
Castro is a solid major league player, if he can play second which he has done well for the Yanks, then I would think he could play third. He was a SS with the Cubs. Frazier hasn’t played short since college. Castro is a better hitter right now than Frazier, Headley, Andujar, or Torres. Yanks will go into the season with no weaknesses by position players.
Eric F
Castro is perfectly fine at 2ND!
BSPORT
I think Castro will be odd man out with some trade value. Watch for him to go in a package for a pitcher.
Eric F
That’s just nonsense really! Why would they do that???? What advantage would the Yankees have if they moved Castro to 3rd????? And you want Wade and Andujar as backups? That literally makes absolutely no sense! Torreyes and Headley are far better than Wade and Andujar at the moment. Rethink that brother.
Phillies2017
Headley brings more value to the Yankees as a player than he would as a trade chip based on the lackluster market for bats and that contract. Let him play it out. At the very least he’s a league average bat.
Also, Torreyes has turned out to be one of the best DFA pick-ups in recent years.
While it might not be a permanant solution, it certainly works well for now.
pepesilvia
Are you kidding me here? Just get rid of headley the guy is completely useless. I don’t want to be too hard on him but he would be better off playing for the Mets. Headley for Harvey trade fill needs for both teams.
southbeachbully
Headley is far from useless. He fills a need more than Harvey does. What use do the Yanks have for an oft injured, moody, prima donna who hasn’t pitched over 100 innings in the last two seasons and has had an ERA well over 5?
The Yanks should always keep their ears open but I would love for them to bring back Frazier and keep Headley. Both players can play 3B and 1B and we need to have depth at 1B since Bird has suffered a few injuries in his brief career. The Yanks should let Holliday walk, I can envision a rotation of Frazier, Headley, Bird and one of Torres or Andujar to split time between 3B, 1B and DH. I would prefer Andujar to win the spot and let Torres start the year at AAA.
southbeachbully
Assuming Frazier can be had on a fair market 2 year deal.
pepesilvia
Headley is too streaky u know that yourself. I think Frazier is a much better play. I’d give up headley for anything really. I checked his numbers he did bat .273 which I couldn’t believe considering how many rallies he killed with double plays strike outs and pop fly’s. Anyway he is not gonna get better time to get young and move in another direction.
southbeachbully
No one is suggesting doing anything to block Andujar or Torres assent to the majors. However, Headley and Frazier make tremendous sense. The rebuild is over. The Yanks have to think and act like they want to win a championship next year. However, they are perfectly set up to get younger as they move along. It doesn’t mean that either Andujar or Torres should be given the job without forcing the issue. I would go hard to try and resign Frazier to a 2 year deal for about 2/$26 mil. Might be a bit of an over pay but Frazier with 550 AB should give you 25-30 hrs and good defense at 3B.
Frazier doesn’t have any weird lefty/righty splits.
Bird should get as many ABs vs both lefties and righties but has weird splits he needs to figure out. Most of his power is vs righties but he hits for a much higher bat avg and OBP vs lefties.
Headley as a switch hitter hits righties better than lefties historically. Plus he (as well as Frazier) can be a back up should Bird be injured. If Bird struggles with righties then Hedley can fill in vs the tougher ones.
If Andujar or Torres force the issue by playing well during the AAA season then they can always move Headley during the season and split time between Castro and Torres at 2B/3B/DH or in the case of Andujar he and Frazier can share 3B/DH.
Yanks can have a lot of flexibility afforded with Frazier and Headley on the roster.
dobsonel
@southbeachbully you make some good points but there are a few things you are overlooking that the Yanks have been crystal clear about the last 3 seasons.
1. The rebuild is not over. The Yanks are not just trying to win a series, they are trying to build another dynasty. They are looking at completing that squad with at least two more position players and 3 or 4 pitchers from their minor league squads.
2. I would love to see Frazier come back on a 2 year deal but, assuming he does agree to this, the Yanks will have to deal Headley. They can’t afford them both if they are serious about staying under 197 mil. They are projected to have about $35 mil to play with and at about $10 mil will most likely go to CC. Cashman will need to leave some wiggle room during the season to make trades in the event someone big is ineffective or gets hurt. (This scenario changes if Tanaka walks of course).
3. I do love the idea of Frazier though because he will allow Torres to stay in the minors one more year, delaying his FA clock.
thegreatcerealfamine
Todd Frazier isn’t gonna sign a contract for less then the QO AAV,though it would be nice to get him for less. Bird is the starting 1B and will and should get AB’s against both righties and lefties. Castro is not the smart choice at 3B,because his defense and hustle at 2B is lackadaisical…they should definitely look to deal him. Headley(if not traded) should be a bench player. Torres needs more time in AAA along with Adams(on the pitching side) and both should be up fairly soon..to cover 2B and as a fifth starter. Clint Frazier is kind of an enigma and if not dealt for pitching probably needs more time in the minors. Gardner is fine in left for now of course,because next winter brings permanent options through FA for third and LF/RF(depending on negotiations).
southbeachbully
I never implied that the rebuild was over but clearly coming off of being 1 win away from a World Series opportunity, they MUST go into next year as legit contenders. That doesn’t mean they have to spend wildly or empty their farm. They have to address 3B, Ellsbury and 2 spots in the rotation. Most of those openings have in-house solutions should they choose to go that route. I brought up the idea that they may want to go after a top of rotation FA vs allowing Chance Adams to win it this spring. The Yanks are in a great and unique position where they can infuse the lineup with in-house youth AND compete for a chip. They can do both and still sign a guy like Darvish, especially if Tanaka opts out.
But honestly, I don’t see a need to move Headley or NOT to sign Frazier. Frazier is an upgrade over Headley, Headley on a 1/$13 is not a bad deal and he gives us depth at two positions, 3b and 1B and let’s all be honest, Bird is fragile and so is his back up @ AAA in Tyler Austin. We had guys like Choi and Mike Ford and yet they still felt the need to acquire Cooper until Bird returned.
southbeachbully
I could see him sign a 2/$26 deal. I agree that Bird SHOULD get as many ABs as possible. However, if by July it shows he’s swing poorly vs lefties or righties then Headley could be a stop gap solution until he matures as a hitter.. Yanks didn’t stay pat with Carter why would they stay pat if Bird has any severe struggles (which I hope he doesn’t)?
Eric F
Ellsbury isn’t going anywhere so that ends that and Hicks looked great at times especially before he got hurt. Maybe the Yankees bring back Matt Holiday to DH or maybe Mike Napoli for a 1 year deal either would work and Nap could even play 1st. As for pitching I think the Yankees should really kick the tires on trading Dellin Betances. I know some of you are going to lose your mind but we really can do without him and maybe we get a SP in return for him to sure up CC as long as he returns or resign Jaime Garcia because he is more than serviceable and can be a 4 or 5 or piss Baltimore off and sign Chris Tillman!
SundownDevil
Please list players from highest to lowest WAR. Sabermetrics is all that matters in baseball, so make sure to always include WAR going forward so I know what I am supposed to think. Throw in UZR while you’re at it; slashlines for the future should be:
OLD: BA/OBP/SLG
NEW (best): WAR/UZR/some other stat
Phillies2017
In determining the value of batters, youre right, BA is outdated, however OBP remains exceptionally important. Slugging percentage is good, however, I don’t weigh it as highly as I would OBP simply because I’d rather have a guy who can get on base at a .370 clip with no home runs than one with 20 homers but a .310 OBP.
Also, I value BABIP highly as well.
cxcx
Your slash line for commenting this year: -2,2/-14.1/71
jdgoat
A little high in my opinion.
I don’t understand the hate for sabremetrics. I seen someone tweet out a couple of days ago that the dodgers are the team with the biggest analytics department while the Astros use them most aggressively. Maybe they aren’t such a bad thing
aff10
That was Keith Law, I think, and he got predictably blasted by the Twitter universe for that. My favorite comment was “the analytics departments have nothing to do with it, those teams have the best players,” as though their acquiring good players had nothing to do with their analytics departments.
I understand why a lot of people don’t care about advanced metrics and would prefer just to evaluate baseball as they always have, but I’m not sure why some people feel the need to complain about analytics constantly. Anti-intellectualism, maybe?
southbeachbully
I feel like the Yanks might be entering the off season in perhaps the best shape they’ve been in aside from the off-seasons following a WS ring. They have needs but not deep gaping holes at any position,
Tanaka’s ability to opt out is a big if but it can work for and against us. If he stays then the Yanks have Gray, Tanaka, Sevino and Montgomery. They can bring back CC for the 5th spot or swing for the fence on a Darvish or Arietta type. If Tanaka leaves then bringing back CC and acquiring a top of the rotation arm is a must. They could give Chance Adams a shot at one of the 5 spots but I feel like coming off the ALCS run the Yanks are going to want a much more solid rotation with proven guys vs counting on a rookie to stake his claim.
For the most part Bird, Castro, Didi, Sanchez, Judge, Gardner and Hicks should all be locks at their positions. Moving Ellsbury for a less expensive and younger options should be a priority. I can see in-house options like Clint Frazier and Jake Cave fighting it out for a 4th OF/DH position. Maybe be Tyler Austin for a RF/1B/DH rotation or Miguel Andujar for a 3B/DH split.
I’m not sure for whom they would target but the Yanks also have some nice prospects they can afford to move like 3b Miguel Andujar in case they commit to moving Castro or Torres to 3B out of spring training. Clint Frazier since they might want to commit to Hicks and Judge long-term yet leave a spot open for Harper for 2019.
Yanks can also trade either Betances or Dave Robertson this off-season. They can trade one and have the other in the bullpen along with Chapman, Green, Kahnle, Warren and Shreve. They should be able to get a decent return on one of Bets or Robertson and still have 6 proven arms in place and whatever 97 mph arm Girardi creates in his laboratory as depth.
bronxbombers
In this case I’d imagine if Clint Frazier breaks out hicks is gone for Harper or is a 4th OF
Yankeefanatic
Clint projects as a potential allstar…not a 4th OF
southbeachbully
Not sure who you were replying to. If it was me I was asserting he could get ABs as a 4th OF/DH until 2019 when we can allow Gardner to walk as a FA or resign him to be a back up.. If you were referng to the other guy, I think he was stating that Hicks could gi back to being a 4th OFer.
thegreatcerealfamine
With a high ceiling but many prospects have had that. Do you honestly think he could man CF if they sign Harper next winter?
southbeachbully
No. Hicks should be the starting CF next year. He’s our best defensively and his power and OBP ability are very valuable.. I would say that Frazier should force his way on to the big league team and split time between LF and DH with Gardner. He can also spell Judge on occasion. If he has a great season then the Yanks can let Gardner walk next year as a FA or bring back as a 4th OF as he can play all 3 positions and maybe do some DHing. However, he’s going to turn 35 next August. There’s reason to believe that his years are numbered as far as being the Yanks starting LFer.
The Yanks should want Clint Frazier, Torres and Andujar to force their way on to the roster rather than handing them the job out of ST.. If the Yanks can bring back Frazier and with Gardner and Headley on 1 year deals and an open DH then there’s rooms to accommodate at least 1 of them being rewarded with a starting job.
If the Yanks end up signing Harper then Hicks can be their 4th OF or moved/allowed to walk as a FA. However, even with Harper, Hicks would be the best candidate for CF over Frazier, Gardner, etc.
koz16
Hicks had a very good first half but his second half was vintage Hicks at the plate. Actually, it was worse. He’ll be given the opportunity to win the job but he’ll be on a short leash and he’s definitely not the long term solution for the Yankees as a starter in the OF.
thegreatcerealfamine
How about the fact he was hurt for one. I suppose you’re down on Bird also…
southbeachbully
He had a horrible 28 game stretch with two stints on the DL in between. However, he was the starting CF during the playoffs and does 3 things pretty well. Takes a walk, hits with power and plays great defense in CF. It’s his job to lose. Cashman will be sure to have some OF depth should he regress but I think Hicks should be given the job.
dobsonel
Domingo Acevedo & Albert Abreu will get a shot as a starter this season before Chance Adams because the Yanks have to add those 2 guys to the 40 man or risk losing them in the rule 5 draft. Adams doesn’t have to be protected so he’ll start the season in the minors barring an early trade… or a spring training so dominant that he gives the Yanks no choice.
sieds5
Spot on. Going into post season I thought they would look to deal Robertson but he may have pitched his way out of that. This team is primed to make a run and he would be very useful as he was this year. would hate to see Betances go bc he is still so dominant when going good and he is young and still 2 years of arb left. The problem is it’s tough to go through a full season with so many 1 inning guys in the pen. One short start by your starter and you are screwed. You can only carry so many RP on the 25.
Ohtani would help if they plan to use as DH also. In essence it frees up a roster spot. Yanks also like to keep that 13th position player spot open to guys with options so they can add a RP (necessity if they keep all these big arms) for a few games if need be. Keeping some of those younger guys (Austin, CFraz, Torres, Andujar, Wade) will help and by not having an older veteran DH tying up that spot you can mix Sanchez into DH, Bird, Gardy, Judge – keep them all fresh but keep them in lineup.
JordanB28
I’d say roll with what they have and then go get Machado later, and then trade Castro. As much as I like Moose and I think we could use 1 more left handed bat, I think we can pass on this one. And I know people want to screaming about Andujar & Torres, I just don’t see either of them being Future third basemen. Torres strikes me as more of a middle infielder, and even though Andujar might be good but I think he’ll eventually get moved for a starter. Besides I think the Yanks will look to add a Higher caliber player because after next year the championship window is definitely going to be open, and the money will be off the books.
timtim007
Isn’t the Yankees farm system pretty good and deep right now? Don’t they have some 3rd basemen in the minors ready to emerge? You never know, maybe there’s another superstar like (All Rise) Aaron Judge ready for his shot in the bigs.
Jeff Todd
Well, yeah, that’s discussed in the post … ?
timtim007
Yes, but I posted the question first. All the others were posted as replies cos there were not alot of posts when I left my comment yesterday.
koz16
Headley stays and TFrazier goes. Andujar takes Frazier’s spot on the MLB roster to begin 2018. Torres stays in AAA and plays 2B and 3B. If Andujar struggles into July the Yankees will try and add a player by the deadline. Unless Torres is killing it in AAA and his defense at 3B has improved he stays in the minors until rosters expand. Yanks also love Torreyes and he filled in well this year. Wade is another defensive option if needed and will get a look in camp, but his bat was poor at the MLB level last year.
The Yankees have enough serviceable 3B options without panicking or making a move. It’s an ideal situation for them to evaluate their talent at the MLB level before Machado and Donaldson hit the FA market. Add the fact they want to stay under the cap and the odds are they go with what they have at 3B next season.
Macho King OG
The Yanks aren’t high on Andujar’s defense, and felt he needed more work with the glove. We’ll get a good look at him in spring training, as well as Torres to see if they can both make some noise and travel North with the club. Headley, Wade, and Torreyes can all play 3rd, so there shouldn’t be any need to sign a stop gap for one year, if they want to sign Machado.
koz16
Cashman has already said that Torres needs more time in AAA. He won’t break camp with the team and won’t be called up any time soon unless injuries hit the Yankees.
dobsonel
I totally agree with this statement. Again, it’s all about the 40 man and the rule 5. Torres doesn’t need to be protected this year and Andujar is already on the 40 man. Most likely, he will platoon with Headley to start the season.
Eric F
I agree people have to remember that Torres got hurt early in the year and missed all that time so he is basically where he left off getting hurt last season. He needs at least another season in the minors or call him up in July.
Trevor 3
If The Yankees don’t put in a bid for Machado, then his price will plummet. Boras will push the Yankees heavily into thinking they need Machado.
mike156
It’s not the right year to pay up for 3B. The team is younger and more athletic than it’s been since the 1990’s, and you are still carrying Headley, who is competent if not spectacular. You don’t want Moose, and Frazier is just going to want (and get) too much. Look for an affordable utility option or promote from within. If Torres is the real deal, whomever you bring in is going to be superfluous in the intermediate term anyway.
Wainofan
Trade centered around gyorko for betances? With other pieces involved?
STLShadows
That might work it would give the Cardinals a potential closer or a least setup man and the Yankees a good versatile infielder and whoever else who would be involved. Do I see it happening? Probably not but is it possible? Yes. Since the Yankees have so many options in free agency I don’t think they have to trade a Betances for Gyorko
yanks02026
lol Yankees don’t want gyorko, specially for betances. If they do move betances it’s for a starter.
STLShadows
I wouldn’t say that this isn’t the first article I have seen about Gyorko and the Yankees. Plus there aren’t many better options I mean do they bring back Frazier? I don’t know but I think Gyorko is there best option
thegreatcerealfamine
This is the very first I’ve ever seen Gyorko being suggested for the Yankees. The Yankees have more upside prospects to go with versus obtaining a player like Gyorko…
Eric F
The Cardinals would have to add another player no matter what.
Munsonmanor4
The Yankees offseason this year will be determined by two names. C C Sabathia and Masahiro Tanaka. If Tanaka opts out, how much does it take to bring him back on board? CC wants to be back and the Yankees do need him believe it or not. They don’t have anyone behind Gray, Severino, and Montgomery that is ready to fill in both of these spots in the rotation in the minors. They will have some wiggle room, but they will not go over the luxury tax this offseason.
thegreatcerealfamine
Tanaka opting out is exactly what they’re hoping for,and probably won’t be resigned. CC loved his time as a Yankee so yes bring him back on a 1-2 year deal with incentives…Adams is ready for low innings as a starter and CC was a great role model for Montgomery. This winter should be used in trading for a starter..they drafted Garret Cole out HS so that’s a strong get.
Eric F
I really hope Tanaka doesn’t opt out because he pitched lights out for most of the Playoffs. He was really good. That just shows the kind of pitcher he is because he handled the Post Season like a trooper!
Drewnasty
I want the Yankees to resign Frazier to a 1 year deal and dump Headley, but the realist in me says that they will roll into next season with Headley and wait for Torres to emerge.
mlb1225
Keep Headley, slowly introduce Torres to the major leagues.
Solaris601
I see them standing pat with what they currently have and waiting for the stars to hit the market next year.
strostro
I say trade Betances for a big 3rd base prospect, or Castellanos
southbeachbully
Why trade Betances for a 3rd base prospect when the Yanks have Andujar and the option of either moving Castro or Torres to 3b? They have enough in-house prospects that they don’t need to take a chance with another prospect from another team.
astros_fan_84
Sounds like the Yankees are in great shape and will only make a few moves. Now, Yankees fans will spend the entire offseason trying to sell the farm. Ought to be hilarious.
thegreatcerealfamine
They certainly won’t tank for years to accumulate high draft picks…cheating their fans. That would be just pitiful!!!
jdgoat
There is nothing wrong with that if you are stuck in mediocrity
thegreatcerealfamine
So not trying to improve year to year is ok in your book…
Eric F
No that’s the Jets lol!
southbeachbully
If they are in great shape and will only make a few moves then what reason would they have to empty the farm of it’s prospects? If anything, they have the ability to add to it since they have a crowded bullpen with Chap, Bets, Robertson, Kahnle, Shreve, Green and Warren in the pen and if wanted, they could make Castro or Headley expendable?
Eric F
Greene will be Starting very soon if not from day 1 if Tanaka leaves but Tanaka is staying believe me. I think CC is more likely to leave because teams that try to catch lighting in a bottle will overpay CC with a 2 year contract probably somewhere near 25 million or more. Take the moronic Angels at the moment they are trying to build around probably the best player in the majors in Trout and they are trying to do it with Justin Upton lol! It’s nuts really. He’s going to fly out of there so fast you will need radar! Mike Trout won’t and nor should he resign with a horrible team like the Angels who won’t be in the Playoffs for at least another 5 years. He will end up signing with an East Coast team maybe the Yanks, Nats, Red Sox or even Cubs if they unload some salary.
jimmertee
Cashman seems to pull a good roster together somehow. I say we trust in the Cashman Kool-Aid. Now the Jays, that’s adifferent story. Mostly terrible decisions from player personell. I think this year will show a change in leadership is needed for the Blue Jays.
slider32
Cashman wants to get under the cap and still get younger. The rebuild is almost complete. I think the Yanks move to get Ohtani and lefty relief pitcher Jake McGee in the winter. Cashman will try and move Ellsbury, Headley, Betances, Warren, and maybe Gardner right after the series. Depending on who he can move and what he gets for them will determine the rest of the signings. I think the Giants are a perfect spot for both Headley and Gardner or even Ellsbury. The Giants like veteran players and their young prospects were last in LF and 3rd last year. Both Gardner and Headley had above average years and fit perfect with a veteran team. I do think this is a gamble because both of these guys were huge for the Yanks this year. Ellsbury is a 1 WAR player who can play on a lot of teams, so Cashman will have to eat 2/3rds of his salary to move him. The only other option would be bad contract for bad contract like Zimmerman.
Eric F
If you think the Yankees can move Ellsbury you’re insane! Every team in the league would want a top 20 prospect with him or pay 65% of his remaining salary. No Team will take that contract! Also why on Earth would you want to move Gardner? That would be a really bad move. Gardner is still a really good OF and he’s not bad with the bat as well and he is a presence in the clubhouse to say the least. You don’t trade Gardner you thank god that you kept him last year!
dobsonel
Sorry Eric but you’re insane if you think they can’t move Ellsbury. History is full of bad contracts being moved. Yes the Yanks will have to eat a lot of cash, but they’ll already shown that they are willing to do that (i.e. paying ARod $21 mil to stay home and paying McCann $11 to help beat them in the playoffs).
Ellsbury is easily a $5 to $7 a year player on the open market so if the Yanks pay it down to somewhere in that amount then he is very trade-able. Just off the top of my head, he be a huge upgrade over anyone manning the Giants OF.
Bottom line is Ellsbury gets traded, and if they can’t trade him they will cut him at some point. They will not eat the roster spot for a guy who won’t play next season.
Eric F
I’m going to have to stick to my guns and say Jaco is on the opening day roster and will be on the roster the last day of the season as well. I see where you’re going but even if a team like the Giants did take him. The Yankees are no longer in the business of paying people to go play for other teams. ANYMORE THAT IS. AROD was a special beast in himself but the New look Yankees don’t do that. I could be wrong lord knows I’m not a GM but if it’s my opinion I’m All In on Ellsbury being on the team next year and I have to say if they don’t bring back Matty Holiday which they should, Then the Yankees could use 3 or 4 players to DH at different times. Teams are going with the youth movement and would shy away from Ellsbury fast. Be well bro.
dobsonel
That being said, I completely agree with you that it would be insane to trade Gardner. The likely-hood of a Clint Frazier type putting up 3 – 4 WAR in his first season are slim. And you’re right, he is a huge clubhouse presence.
Realtexan
In this market for third baseman is gonna cost a lot to play. Meaning the Yankees are gonna have to pay out a lot either with money or trades to get a really third bagger. Maybe A-Rod will sign a minor league deal and come back to play.
GarryHarris
The Yankees are in a very successful youth movement from within. Why change course? Just as Jacoby Ellsbury and Brett Gardner, Chase Headley isn’t terrible and can play while the youth movement continues. Headley can play DH when either Miguel Andujar and/or Gleyber Torres are ready.
If the Yankees need anything, its a young SP and a better lefty in the pen.
slider32
Agreed, sign Ohtani and Jake McGee and this team is good to go!
slider32
They are not changing course, last winter they let A-Rod go and traded McCann. They were shopping Gardner and Headley.
Eric F
I agree totally! You have to mix in a few vets and Ellsbury isn’t going anywhere believe that.
andym-2
Bring back Frazier, trade Headley. When the Yankees acquired the Toddfather, he galvanized the whole team for that awesome run that just wrapped up. He’s great in Yankee Stadium.
leftykoufax
“And I’m getting real sick of guys named Todd”
Eric F
I say keep Headley and maybe add a guy like Jedd Gyorko from the Cardinals for a prospect or 2 no one in the top 40 definitely. If Josh Harrison can be obtained I would love to have his versatility as well. But Headley can hold down the fort for our bid at Manny Machado or Donaldson either one would be amazing. Also if they don’t look outside for platoon help maybe Andujar can come up by June or so and add his big bat to the lineup.
brood550
If I was in Cashman’s shoes. I’m resigning Frazier and signing a dh bat like Napoli or Santana to a 1 year deal with a team option for a second year. That way if they do want to target Machado or Donaldson next off-season it gives you plenty of options. If you sign one of them you can move Frazier to dh, split work at dh between the 2, or you can activate the dh option trade Castro, move Didi to second, put Machado at SS, and leave Frazier at 3b. And if you miss Machado you can activate the dh option or get a new one through FA and try for Arenado the next year.