A couple of recent agency switches over in the NL West…
- Padres top prospect Fernando Tatis Jr. is represented by MVP Sports, as ESPN.com’s Jerry Crasnick tweets. There had been indication that Tatis was changing representation, but it seems that is not the case. The 18-year-old wunderkind raked at a .281/.390/.520 pace as one of the youngest regulars in the Class-A Midwest League before receiving a late-season bump to Double-A. Tatis ranks as one of the game’s top overall prospects (No. 15 on Keith Law’s midseason top 50; No. 51 on MLB.com’s top 100; No. 101, per Baseball America). While Tatis has yet to make his MLB debut, it’s not inconceivable that the highly touted second-generation talent could do so late in the 2018 campaign. He figures to open next year in Double-A, so a midseason move to Triple-A or even a jump directly to the Majors from Double-A is plausible.
- Dodgers outfielder Andrew Toles, who missed the majority of the season with a torn ACL, is now a client of Marc Anthony’s Magnus Sports, tweets ESPN’s Jerry Crasnick. Toles burst onto the scene with the 2016 Dodgers, hitting .314/.365/.505 in 115 plate appearances down the stretch before shining with an .878 OPS in 11 postseason contests. He was off to a slower but still-solid start in 2017, batting .271/.314/.458 with five homers in 102 PAs when he suffered the ligament tear while trying to preserve Julio Urias’ no-hit bid with a running grab in the left-field corner. Toles spent the remainder of the season on the 60-day disabled list, accruing big league service time after undergoing surgery to repair the ligament. He’ll finish out the year with a year and 87 days of MLB service time, meaning he’d be eligible for arbitration (at the earliest) following the 2019 season and eligible for free agency following the 2022 campaign.
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That’s unfortunate
Agreed
For whom? Certainly not for Tatis. Boras consistently gets his clients the most money available.
For the Padres, altho it probably won’t be an issue until 8 years from now.
Is that when Tatis should hit free agency?
Assuming he is called up in mid 2019, yes.
Yeah Boras is starting early on this guy.
Oh man why on earth would the white dox trade tatis for mediocre shields.. If they kept him their farm would be just filthy
he was 16 and didn’t even play pro ball yet when the deal happened. Just gotta shrug at that one
He played rookie ball
Plus at the time Sox where playing good and needed more reliable inning eating pitching
And for all we know, AJ Preller might have falsified medical records in the Shields-Tatis trade. He did so for the Pomeranz and McRea trades that very season.
It might be that the White Sox were defrauded. Sadly, the Sox decided not to file a grievance like the Red Sox and Marlins both did. No one knew how that Tatis Jr. was going to play so well. Not the Sox, who traded him and declined to file a grievance to rescind the trade, and not the Padres, who acquired him under dubious circumstances.
If the Padres were so certain that Tatis was going to be great, they’d never have let their be a whiff of impropriety about the trade.
Err… What? How many starts did Shields miss in 2016? There were no “dubious circumstances” surrounding that trade. Shields’ performance may have gone in the tank after that trade but he wasn’t injured and anyone could have seen that coming. And as for Pomeranz, he has not missed one start since the trade and the prospect the Red Sox gave up needed Tommy John surgery. If anything the Padres should be filing a grievance against the Red Sox. The Marlins also traded the Padres two Tommy John pitchers. Do you see the Padres crying about it? Didn’t think so pal! You are DELUSIONAL!
Oh, so there’s nothing wrong with the Padres falsifying medical records in trades? is that still the Padres policy today?
Maybe that’s why they couldn’t find anyone to trade with for Brad Hand.
And if the Padres’ conduct was so righteous, why did AJ Preller get suspended for a month?
What sucks about this situation is that Preller and the Padres organization defrauded the Marlins, Red Sox, and White Sox. And yet the Padres ended up keeping the best prospect out of all the players they fraudulently acquired: Tatis Jr.
It sucks to see cheaters prosper in life.
You can say that, but it’s really not like the Padres are the only guilty team. In the past couple of years alone, the Red Sox, Yankees, Braves and Cardinals have all been punished or caught cheating/breaking rules. And the White Sox didn’t get cheated. You are saying that as if it’s a fact
And the thing is, the Marlins and Red Sox both probably came out on top of the Padres in those trades. Pomerania was their second best pitcher this year, while Espinoza was injured all year. The Marlins also got Straily instead of Rea for Castillo, so they upgraded with the same prospects.
Finally, you’re making it sound like the Padres were hiding that their pitchers had torn ligaments or serious injuries, not that they didn’t include medication in their medical reports.
Yup. The missing info on Drew Pomeranz was that he had been taking oral antiinflammatories. And not even prescription antiinflammatories. Over-the-counter ones. The type you could go buy at your local 7-Eleven right now if you wanted to.
It was a huge coup for Hill getting Castillo back and he just traded him away again a few months later.
The issue was never that the Padres were hiding SMALL injuries, and the treatments for those injuries.
The issue was that the Padres were HIDING small injuries, and the treatments for those injuries.
The deliberate falsification of medical records was the problem, not the degree of injury.
And yeah, the Red Sox and Marlins trades have worked out for those teams. You can’t say the same for the White Sox. They should have filed that grievance.
It was all much ado about nothing. If the Red Sox had know about the antiinflammatories they would have made the trade anyway. Many players take the exact same thing.
The White Sox had no grievance to file. Shields was not injured. Did he give up a lot of home runs after the trade? Sure. Was he injured? No. The White Sox lost a trade. Everyone does every once in a while. When it happens, do those other teams go crying to MLB? No. They reflect and try to make sure it doesn’t happen again.
You really should shut up. This entire post was just a disaster for you.
So wait, your argument is that the Padres did nothing wrong? That the Padres are in the right here? “Much ado about nothing?”
Even AJ Preller and Mike Dee don’t make that argument, since they publically apologized for falsifying medical information.
You are literally the only human being ever in existence who believes the Padres are in the right here.
Shine on, you crazy diamond.
What I’m saying is if there is any info that is notable enough to warrant nixing the trade, they would (or reasonably should) have known about it. There was nothing wrong with Pomeranz. I knew Rea was a Tommy John risk and so did many commenters on here with even less access to information than the Marlins FO so they had no excuse for not knowing and Preller traded back for Rea. And there was no grievance to be made in the White Sox’s case as there was clearly nothing wrong with Shields other than the fact that he just wasn’t good anymore. By your logic the Padres should file a grievance against Jed Hoyer for stealing Anthony Rizzo. Or against Mike Rizzo for stealing Trea Turner. They have as much grounds to do that as the White Sox have wrt Tatis Jr. And of course, Tatis Jr. is yet to actually do anything in the Majors.
Did any GMs in those trades deliberately falsify medical records? If so, you have a point. If not…well.
What medical info was falsified on James Shields? And how many days did he spend on the DL because of it?
Oh and as for the Marlins, I still find it kinda fishy that Chris Paddack needed Tommy John surgery after 3 starts in the Padres organization and the Marlins said there was “Nothing wrong with him.”
Echointhecaves you are delusional
Echointhecaves …. there you go again … talking nonesense. You are just a bitter white sox fan. You have nothing to substantiate your fraud accusation. You have nothing to support your claim that medical records on Shields were false and what medical issue is there?
His argument is that he took oral OTC anti-inflammatories, and if you actually know the rules, Preller actually didn’t have to divulge that. He actually didn’t do anything illegal.
As far as the Red Sox and Marlins, if you notice that Anderson Espinosa had TJ surgery as well as Chris Paddock. What didn’t they disclose? Pomeranz never missed a game and Rea had no known injuries until he actually blew out his arm PITCHING FOR THE MARLINS.
Minor correction. Rea was shut down in September of the prior season with forearm tightness. That is known to be the precursor to Tommy John surgery and several people on here and other Padre-centric boards said that Rea eventually would need it. If a bunch of nobodies on Internet comment pages could have foreseen Rea needing Tommy John surgery, the Marlins front office, with way more access to information than the aforementioned nobodies, even if the information they were presented with might not have been quite as complete as it should have been, had no excuse for not knowing.
Ibuprofen.
Let me start by saying I am NOT a Padres fan and I live on the opposite side of the continent.
I find it interesting how many people are up in arms about this on both sides. AJ Preller was suspended because he took responsibility for what amounted to “much ado about nothing”. For something that was a gray area in the rules and that many teams have done through the years.
1st the infraction in question. Pomeranz was taking ibuprofen for inflammation and that had not been reported to MLB prior to the trade with the Red Sox. He never missed a game and his mediocre performance as a Red Sox cannot be attributed to that treatment. He was not injured in a medical sense. A new pitching philosophy, catcher and pitching coach can be, but that is another discussion.
Mike Dee, the Padres executive who put the medical records program in place before Preller was hired, was subsequently fired and Preller took over all of his baseball operations responsibilities after returning from his suspension. Preller’s suspension was for a time at the end of the regular season and early in the playoffs when a GM has little to do. No contracts to negotiate, no signings to make, no games to scout other than AFL games, and only playoff games going on. All the decisions that a GM would have to be involved in have already been made at that point in time.
From what I have read and from people I have spoken with that work in MLB here is what happened:
Mike Dee put in place procedures for sharing medical information with MLB in such a way that only actual treatments or prescribed medicines by a medical professional such as a Doctor, chiropractor, or a physical therapist were included in the information sent to MLB. If a player took an aspirin, or in the case of Pomeranz ibuprofen, then that was not reported to MLB as a medical issue. If they had a massage because they were sore after the game, it was not reported. If they were prescribed an anti-inflammatory such as a cortical steroid or other prescription drugs by the team doctor or other medical professionals it was reported. If they had an x-ray or an MRI it was reported. If the Doctor prescribed physical therapy it was reported. If they had an actual injury as diagnosed by a team doctor or other medical professional, it was reported. Minor aches and pains and treatment with over the counter treatments or massage were not reported.
Preller did not move to change this medical reporting procedure that was put in place before he was hired and according to MLB he was responsible for it. The Padre’s medical reporting procedures were in a gray area in terms of the rules the teams were given regarding reporting of medical issues, but it ruled that the Padres were not acting in good faith. That was what MLB found to have happened.
MLB has since changed the rules to spell out that any and all treatment has to be reported as a result of the Pomeranz incident.
It was a minor infraction, the Red Sox were given the option of reversing the trade, and the person responsible was fired by the Padres as soon as Preller returned from his suspension.
Yep. And THEN consider that every single Tommy John recipient who was involved in any trade between the Padres and Red Sox or Marlins since the start of the 2016 season is currently employed by the Padres. Rea, Capps, Paddack and Espinoza.
Oh no, not this again.
The whole issue with the medical records has been resolved. Rob Manfred himself came out and said it was dealt with properly, and that clown Mike Dee was shown the door (thank goodness for that). Also the Padres did amend their mistakes where they could, like with the Marlins and Red Sox trades. If anything, the fact that James Shields trade was left alone probably shows that it was the one “fair” trade out of the bunch.
Fans need to put this issue in the past and leave it at that.
You wanna go that way huh?
Johnson was broken
Shields was known to have issues prior
Soooo
Your play snowflake
From everything I’ve read you are someone that likes to play the game called “Revisionist History” and throws a bunch of blah blah blah arguments to blame the Padres for trading James Shields to the White Sox. Take your teams failure to evaluate talent and place all that pent up frustration on your GM. Seriously now, what are you really going to do about it? Whine to your friends in the MLB about how your team got robbed of a potential superstar? TATIS’s ISN’T GOING ANYWHERE! So buck up and move on already.
Sometimes you see a comment that is just so completely off base that it makes you say WTF out loud. You have just done that. Congrats for the worst comment of the day.
False False again Ryan stop lies. Preller was guilty and accepted punishment stop changing narrative. Preller been suspended twice and hasn’t made significant trade since
That’s norm with off island Ryan
It’s not false at all. And Preller hasn’t even had to make any significant trades you braindead loser. What obvious, significant trade chips has he had in the past year that weren’t traded?
This is good and bad for the Padres and their fans. Bad tthat Preller and Co. are going to have to deal with him down the road. Good that Boras represents some of the best young players around. If he is representing him, he must see something in Tatis as well. To be honest, I am just looking for some silver lining here.
He’s not the boogeyman…lol
But John wick is
There are a lot of GMs who would disagree with you. 🙂
Lol I know, it’s crazy the hate people have for the guy. Tatis’ agent shouldn’t impact the way the Padres handle him in the slightest. They should’ve played the service time games regardless, because he’s an elite prospect and they suck, and they can still throw out extension overtures if he’s good. Everybody’s got a number they’d take to forgo free agency. Even if Boras encourages his clients to go year-to-year, he ultimately has to follow their wishes. If Tatis wants an extension, he’ll sign one, but people act like Boras is some evil manipulator and corruptor of young players.
You’re so right. A financial advisor doesn’t invest your money without clearing it with you…because he works for you. Boras is powerful because he is one of the best at what he does…representing and getting great deals for his clients.
I hope Toles comes back strong, I liked what I saw when he was healthy.
Well, Preller needs to play the service time game now. Absolutely no reason to rush him. The Padres will only get their 7 years (if they Kris Bryant him) so keep him in the minors all of 2018 and maybe even 2019 (or part of it) at this point. He’s 18. Let him get stronger and more experience.
Yep, and then call him up the second week of whichever season he come up in.
Tatis or Tre Turner? Perhaps suffering for a few more years at shortstop will be worth it when Tatis arrives
Forgot all about Toles. If he comes back and is the player he was before man is that an a great problem to have for the Dodgers with Taylor, Toles, Puig and Joc. We all know Ethiers off the team next year. Seems like they’d try to trade Joc but then again knowing this management they’ll probably pull a Gordon and trade Puig while his value is high because there is no gurantws he will
Sorry. Stupid phone lol…
There is no guarantee Puig will duplicate what he did this year and in the post season. They’ll probably sell high with him I’d imagine and try to add a second baseman or a pitcher.
Toles is a good problem to have, but he still needs to come back from a serious injury and even before getting hurt was pretty rough on defense. A lot of potential there but not somebody to pencil into the roster yet.